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#1 AvIdGaMeR444
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I've been guilty of making a lot of pointless flamebait posts lately. I fully admit that. I've come dangerously close to becoming a troll on here, if I'm not already. My posts have been lame and not well thought out. I haven't put a lot of effort into my posts or have really even had reasonable things to say in my posts for awhile now. I'm going to attempt to change that with this post though. I made a promiseinanother topic that I was going to make a well-constructed, well thought outtopic for my next post. I am not going to flame anyconsole or gameat all this time. I am going to give legitimate reasons why I believe the Wii has been a huge success thus far.

Reasons why Wii has been so successful so far

1.MoreMarketing than Gamecube by far. I honestly think the marketing for Wii has been phenomenal. I have seen ads for Wii on some of the biggest networks on television on a fairly regular basis. It seems like Nintendo is marketing this console much more than they did Gamecube. This can only do nothing but help it. Yes, Gamecube had ads too, but from my experience, it seems Wii advertising is more prevalent than Gamecube.

2. The type of Marketing. Marketing alone usually doesn't help a product unless the marketing has some sort of impact on the consumer. Wii's marketing campaign has done just that. It has been simple but effective. "Wii would like to play" ads have been more of an eye grabber than most of the Gamecube marketing.The GC's "Who are you?" ads didn't really show how or in what way the GC stood out from the Xbox or PS2. Wii's marketing has shown exactly what Wii is all about.

3. The broad audience Wii is marketed towards.Laugh if you will, but one of the very 1st Wii ads appeared during "Dancing with the Stars". I remember reading posts on here saying how ridiculous it was for Nintendo to advertiseduring a "heavily female watched" show. It turns out this was ingenious. "Dancing with the Stars" aside, Nintendo is truly adverting its hearts out to all sorts of gamers and non-gamers alike.

4. The buildup of hype over a long period of time. The hype surrounding the Wii began in E305 when it was still codenamed "Revolution". There was mystery surrounding the console. Nintendo had let on that they were working on a vastly different controller, but no one (other than Nintendo)had any clue exactly what the controller would entail or what it would be like. There was a lot of speculation and talk about "Revolution". Nintendo began the hype machine with its subtle approach to keep the "Revolution" controller a mystery. Then at TGS that year, Nintendo finally decided to show the controller for the 1st time. Nintendo only showed off a few minigame type games (which laterbasically transformed into the Wii controller game"Wii play").There was just enough shown to excite gamingjounalists.Therewas a lot of controversy on how the controller looked or how anyone could use such a device to play games with.

But most of the feedback from journalists was positive innature. The slow buildup of hype over the months began to rise much faster now that the controller was shown.Other than gaming journalists, the gaming public still didn't have aclue how the controller really worked in a gaming environment. So, other than how the controller and nunchuck looked, there was still great mystery about how it worked. Sure, gaming journalists attempted to explainhow it worked, and the public knew it was going to be motion-sensitive at this point, butgamersweren'table to see it in action to really get the entire idea down. Therewas still much speculation. And becauseof this, the hype just grew and grew and grew.

Then before E306, there was an announcement that stunned everyone. The codename "Revolution" was changed permanently to "Wii". That caused a flood of controversy, and many jokes arose from the name. Nintendo knew exactly what they were doing though. They wanted a unique name to go with a unique consolecontroller. Most people seemed to hate the name (and several people thought Nintendo had completely gone off of their rockers), but even so, this name change sparked more hype about what "Wii" was going to be like. It got people talking, which is exactly what Nintendo wanted. Nintendo wanted as much focus on Wii as they could. They succeeded in getting more people to talk about Wii than Xbox 360 and PS3.

Then E306 happened. Nintendo succeeded. There was a huge line of people wanted to try out Wii. Nintendo had accomplished what it had set out to do before E306...

A. Build up hype over a long period of time.

B.Keep some mystery behind the Wii controller up until E306.

C. Change the name to Wii to get people talking more about Wii than the other 2 consoles.

After E306, the hype machine exploded on the internet. Since a heck of a lot more people tried out Wii than Xbox 360 and PS3 at E306, those experiences with Wii were relayed back to friends, family, etc. Word spread about Wii faster than Xbox 360 and PS3 as a result.

5. The Price. The $249.99 price tag for Wii seemed to sit well with most people because it included a free game to show off the Wii remote's capabilities. Even though this price was higher than earlier Nintendo consoles, it seemed legitimately fair to many people after seeing $399.99 and $599.99 for the other 2 consoles. Wii was 150$ cheaper than the other 2 consoles. Couple this with there being more hype for Wii in general. Sure, there was still some controversy that the Wii price was still too high, but it was short-lived for the most part.

6.The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess at launch. Nintendo wasn't going to allow the same marketing mistakes that Gamecube had this go round. Gamecube had "Luigi's Mansion" at launch. That sold fairly well, but it is definitely not nearly aspopular a game as the Zelda series. Nintendo had to make a decision that would tick off Gamecube owners. They knew it was only going to help Wii sales though. Nintendo made the decision to delay Twilight Princess on Gamecube and have it release a few weeks after its Wii counterpart.Nintendo also touted that Twilight Princess was a more engaging experience on Wii.Also, Nintendo said that Twilight Princess was the biggest and best Zelda game by far. This got the hype machine really rolling on that game. Also, showing how the game worked with the Wii remote and nunchuk also helped peak gamer interest.

7. The Wii remote and nunchuk. Many people welcomed a new way to play console games. Wii Sports being a free game with a Wii purchase helped show gamers what Wii was all about. For console gaming, it was a new, unique way of playing games. Nintendo has touted The Wii remote and nunchuk to be an "easier" way to play games. This has helped get non-gamers into gaming as well.

8. The Virtual Console and backwards compatability. When Nintendo announced that over 20 years of Nintendo games would be available to play on Wii, this sparked even more hype. Then Nintendo annouced that other games from other older consoles would be available for VC downloadsas well. GC games are backwards compatible. And with Super Smash Bros. Melee being the most popular Gamecube game, this helped fuel the fire even more.

9. Mii.I've read posts on here that make fun of Miis and the limited creation system of making them. Well, as it turns out, Miis are a popular part of Wii. A lot of people havemade caricatures of their favorite celebrities, family, themselves, etc. And being able to port your own Miis into certain Wii games didn't hurt the hype.

10.The size of Wii. Now, in America, this may not make much of a difference to gamers. But in Japan, this does make a difference to an extent. A lot of the living quarters in Japan have a lot less space than in America. This is just a fact. Wii being much, much smaller than PS3 is only helpful in Japan.

11. Many people were ready for a different game controlling mechanism. Nintendo has been innovative in creating control devices for consoles.A lot of what they have created has been utilized by other companies. Whether it is the D-pad, analog (yes, I know they did not create analog, but it was the 1st well-controlled analog console controller), shoulder buttons, etc, they have sought to innovate the industry. Gamecube controller did not distinguish itself from the N64 controller. This sure did not help Nintendo in any way. The GC controller really didn't distinguish itself from the PS2 or Xbox controller. In fact, many people seemed to believe it was worse than the PS2 controller. This was unexpected for Nintendo, who had previously innovated its controllers each gen. They really didn't do this with Gamecube.They more than made up for this with Wii. And this only helps. Xbox 360 controller is comfortable and has a better button layout than the Xbox controller, but it is not a different controlling mechanism. PS3 controller lost rumble and is basically the same as the PS2 controller (except for tilt control).

Before Wii, controlling games on consoles was basically the same process ever since dual-shock. And before dual-shock, the N64 controller had everything the Xbox and PS2 controllers had except for the extra analog stick. So, for the past several years before Wii, the controllers themselves might have had different button layouts and such. But the controlling mechanism was basically the same. People were ready for a change. That is where Wii comes in. The drastic change was at the right time and right place.

12. Online gaming. Nintendo has been saying online is coming to Wii games. It is here. The hype for online has helped fuel the Wii sales. And now that it is here, this helps all that much more.

13. The continued success of 1st party games fuels the hype. The success of 1st party Nintendo games has always been a factor. Even with the tame sales of Gamecube, the 1st party software was a huge success for the console. The hype for SSBB is enormous, as is the announcement of an online Mario Kart title coming. Super Mario Galaxy as well.

Ok, there are the reasons. One can argue that the Wii graphics are poor. Graphics havenever mattered. Look at Nintendo's handhelds. They have beaten all other handhelds on the market throughout the years. And throughout the years, there have been handhelds that are far superior graphically than Nintendo handhelds. It doesn't matter. Gameplay is what is important.

One can argue that Wii's success doesn't make sense because "good" games are not here. I guess it is all a matter of opinion. Some can argue that the games aren't great. And others can argue that Wii has plenty of good games if you know where to look. Then there is the Virtual Console which is a big success. There is always something to play on Wii.

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I agree that the size and appearance has a lot more to do with its success than you'd think. I can almost guarantee you that if it were shaped like another cube it probably wouldn't sell quite as well... but I've gotta admit that that sleek machine looks amazing next to my big fat ugly 360.
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#3 Uzumaki_Naruto5
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The Miis and Online have nothing to do with Wii's success.
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#4 Hoffgod
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You... you're making an article not bashing something? :shock:

Good read and some good points. Nice job, Avid.

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Yeah, that's about it.
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#6 AvIdGaMeR444
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The Miis and Online have nothing to do with Wii's success.Uzumaki_Naruto5

I made a long post explaining my viewpoints. Please explain yours.

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#7 Koopaknight29
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So, really, whose side are you on? You sound like you like the Wii, but right now I find it hard to believe you especially with all of the stunts that you've pulled recently.Your essay is compelling though; well thought out and logical.

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Alright, I'll give you another chance. Stop being a fake troll and all is good. No one likes a troll, even a fake one.

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#8 l_The_DetoX_l
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[QUOTE="Uzumaki_Naruto5"]The Miis and Online have nothing to do with Wii's success.AvIdGaMeR444

I made a long post explaining my viewpoints. Please explain yours.

I don't think most people that buy the Wii even know much about Miis. I didn't when I bought it back in April.

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#9 gamenux
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It is not $599
not$499
not$399
not$389
not$379
not$369
not$359
not$349
not$339
not$329
not$319
not $309
not $299
not$289
not $279
not $269
not $259

but $249

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#10 Eponique
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Probably your best post ever. Everything in there was true.

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#11 blizzvalve
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good list. It really explains a lot about the success of the wii.
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#12 Uzumaki_Naruto5
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[QUOTE="Uzumaki_Naruto5"]The Miis and Online have nothing to do with Wii's success.AvIdGaMeR444

I made a long post explaining my viewpoints. Please explain yours.

Dont want to make a long post but you think people bought a wii because of miis?

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:shock:...

Wow. Thine eyes have never opened as wide as this since the time gingerdivid did a thread like this.

Truth be told, I consider myself somewhat a troll here. :P

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#14 AvIdGaMeR444
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So, really, whose side are you on? You sound like you like the Wii, but right now I find it hard to believe you especially with all of the stunts that you've pulled recently.Your essay is compelling though; well thought out and logical.

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Alright, I'll give you another chance. Stop being a fake troll and all is good. No one likes a troll, even a fake one.

Koopaknight29

I've said this before. I'm not on any console's/company's side. You wanna know the real reason why I've been making crappy posts with no logic or basis to them? Alright...It is because I get a hell of a lot fewer replies if I make a long, thought out post than a short post that bashes a system with no basis. Look at system wars. You get a lot more controversy by being an ass and posting baseless BS than well thought out posts. It's true. If I had made this exact same title...."Wii --- 13 reasons why Wii is so successful.", and then in my topic said "Just kidding :lol:..Wii is trash!" I would have gotten a heck of lot more replies by now. Sad but true. I used to make well thought out posts a long time ago on here. There is no real point to it any more though. I make a long thread and I get few replies. Or my favorite response to some of my long threads in the past..."teh wall of text!" :roll:

Make a logical post, get few replies. Make a ridiculous post bashing something for nogood reason and get a lot of replies. The forumites in system wars are hypocritical because they bash posts that are baseless a lot but then don't give nearly as many responses to logical posts that are not baseless. So, why the hell should I take 20 minutes to type out a post that doesn't generate any responses when I can just quickly type a bunch of BS and get many more responses much faster? See what I mean? Does it make it right? No. Do I believe half of the BS I'm typing most of the time in my baseless posts? No. I'm a hypocrite, but a hypocrite who gets more responses by being an ass. Yeah, it's pathetic.

But, I'm going to attempt to make more logical posts from now on and see where it goes. I doubt it will matter much though.

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#15 Uzumaki_Naruto5
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[QUOTE="Koopaknight29"]

So, really, whose side are you on? You sound like you like the Wii, but right now I find it hard to believe you especially with all of the stunts that you've pulled recently.Your essay is compelling though; well thought out and logical.

...

Alright, I'll give you another chance. Stop being a fake troll and all is good. No one likes a troll, even a fake one.

AvIdGaMeR444

I've said this before. I'm not on any console's/company's side. You wanna know the real reason why I've been making crappy posts with no logic or basis to them? Alright...It is because I get a hell of a lot fewer replies if I make a long, thought out post than a short post that bashes a system with no basis. Look at system wars. You get a lot more controversy by being an ass and posting baseless BS than well thought out posts. It's true. If I had made this exact same title...."Wii --- 13 reasons why Wii is so successful.", and then in my topic said "Just kidding :lol:..Wii is trash!" I would have gotten a heck of lot more replies by now. Sad but true. I used to make well thought out posts a long time ago on here. There is no real point to it any more though. I make a long thread and I get few replies. Or my favorite response to some of my long threads in the past..."teh wall of text!" :roll:

Make a logical post, get few replies. Make a ridiculous post bashing something for nogood reason and get a lot of replies. The forumites in system wars are hypocritical because they bash posts that are baseless a lot but then don't give nearly as many responses to logical posts that are not baseless. So, why the hell should I take 20 minutes to type out a post that doesn't generate any responses when I can just quickly type a bunch of BS and get many more responses much faster? See what I mean? Does it make it right? No. Do I believe half of the BS I'm typing most of the time in my baseless posts? No. I'm a hypocrite, but a hypocrite who gets more responses by being an ass. Yeah, it's pathetic.

But, I'm going to attempt to make more logical posts from now on and see where it goes. I doubt it will matter much though.

I actually see what you mean. Sometimes I waste my time thinking out my posts and get no replies and then I see topics where a person says ps3 owns joo and it has 500 replies.

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Number 7 is the reason i will probably never buy this system. I have been gaming for 20 years and i absolutely hate the non-traditional controller. I can see how this can draw in non-gamers but it has completely detered me from even considering getting this system in the future. I am not looking to get flamed or start a war...it is just MY personal opinion. I play games most often when i get home from work or the gym when i need to totally relax on my recliner with a little controller in hand. Swinging some remote aimlessly at the screen is not my idea of relaxing or even traditional gaming. Yes it's innovative but i prefer the traditional way i have been playing games for the last 20 years since NES first came out. As for the price...well you get what you paid for. No one can argue how much more powerful the 360 and ps3 are....and with those 2 systems your obviously paying for that processing power. The wii is basically a slightly enhanced gamecube with a new controller...of course you shouldn't be paying more then $250 for something like that. I will state again these are MY opinions and not facts. The bottom line though is i am passing on the wii now and forever.
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#17 AvIdGaMeR444
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[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

[QUOTE="Uzumaki_Naruto5"]The Miis and Online have nothing to do with Wii's success.Uzumaki_Naruto5

I made a long post explaining my viewpoints. Please explain yours.

Dont want to make a long post but you think people bought a wii because of miis?

Miis certainly don't hurt Wii sales in any way. What? You don't think being able to import Miis into certain Wii games has helped the sales even a little bit?

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=miis

You or I may not find Miis to be much. But don't be mistaken. Several people make Miis on Wii and have fun.

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[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

[QUOTE="Uzumaki_Naruto5"]The Miis and Online have nothing to do with Wii's success.Uzumaki_Naruto5

I made a long post explaining my viewpoints. Please explain yours.

Dont want to make a long post but you think people bought a wii because of miis?

He said it was one of 13 reasons.
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#19 AvIdGaMeR444
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[QUOTE="Uzumaki_Naruto5"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

[QUOTE="Uzumaki_Naruto5"]The Miis and Online have nothing to do with Wii's success.ithilgore2006

I made a long post explaining my viewpoints. Please explain yours.

Dont want to make a long post but you think people bought a wii because of miis?

He said it was one of 13 reasons.

Exactly.The 13 reasons all work together. I'm not saying that any single reason is the one reason why Wii is so successful. I mean all the reasons together.

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The Miis and Online have nothing to do with Wii's success.Uzumaki_Naruto5
Not true. Many of my friends come over to my house to play Strikers onlin, Madden Online and create Miis that are of... suggestive nature so yes it does help a bit.
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#21 Koopaknight29
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[QUOTE="Koopaknight29"]

So, really, whose side are you on? You sound like you like the Wii, but right now I find it hard to believe you especially with all of the stunts that you've pulled recently.Your essay is compelling though; well thought out and logical.

...

Alright, I'll give you another chance. Stop being a fake troll and all is good. No one likes a troll, even a fake one.

AvIdGaMeR444

I've said this before. I'm not on any console's/company's side. You wanna know the real reason why I've been making crappy posts with no logic or basis to them? Alright...It is because I get a hell of a lot fewer replies if I make a long, thought out post than a short post that bashes a system with no basis. Look at system wars. You get a lot more controversy by being an ass and posting baseless BS than well thought out posts. It's true. If I had made this exact same title...."Wii --- 13 reasons why Wii is so successful.", and then in my topic said "Just kidding :lol:..Wii is trash!" I would have gotten a heck of lot more replies by now. Sad but true. I used to make well thought out posts a long time ago on here. There is no real point to it any more though. I make a long thread and I get few replies. Or my favorite response to some of my long threads in the past..."teh wall of text!" :roll:

Make a logical post, get few replies. Make a ridiculous post bashing something for nogood reason and get a lot of replies. The forumites in system wars are hypocritical because they bash posts that are baseless a lot but then don't give nearly as many responses to logical posts that are not baseless. So, why the hell should I take 20 minutes to type out a post that doesn't generate any responses when I can just quickly type a bunch of BS and get many more responses much faster? See what I mean? Does it make it right? No. Do I believe half of the BS I'm typing most of the time in my baseless posts? No. I'm a hypocrite, but a hypocrite who gets more responses by being an ass. Yeah, it's pathetic.

But, I'm going to attempt to make more logical posts from now on and see where it goes. I doubt it will matter much though.

I know what you mean, Avid. But hey as the old saying goes no good post goes unmodded... or something like that. Seriously though, while logical post don't get you much attention, it won't get you run out of town either. No one will take you seriously eventually; at best you'll get a ":roll: It's that guy again," then people move on. That or your stupidity will be epitomized in somebody's sig then forgotten, dunno.

The Smash: Brawlthread here got pretty far without resorting to flame wars. Just good old fasion hype and speculation.

I like this you better, though. Saves me money on Asprin.

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#22 legend26
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:shock: i actually have respect for u now. thats probably the smartest thing ive read here, well thought out and written. did u have an epifany???
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#23 AvIdGaMeR444
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:shock: i actually have respect for u now. thats probably the smartest thing ive read here, well thought out and written. did u have an epifany???legend26

I just realized that my other posts were going nowhere and I wasn't believe even half of what I was typing. I was dangerously close to trolling (if I wasn't already) in my posts and they were highly negative. I got a lot of responses with those types of posts though which was my sole aim. Pretty pathetic. Also, it is a hell of a lot easier to just make baseless BS posts than to make logical, well-thought out posts. But I'm done with my negative BS, baseless crappy posts. My rep might already be ruined though, I don't know.

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seriously thats the smartest thing ive read here wow

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#25 Hockey_Slayer
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"Teh Wall of text"

Hahaha just kidding man. You named out some good points. I like you better when you don't troll. You may not get as many replys to this post, but you sure do,get alot more of respect.

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#26 Teh_Stevz
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Dare I say it, I prefer the critisism. It helps to keep us in check.

Then again, I've never known you as a "Wii Sucks" type.

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#27 Blackbond
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Sell out....

:twisted:

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#28 Blackbond
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I just realized that my other posts were going nowhere and I wasn't believe even half of what I was typing. I was dangerously close to trolling (if I wasn't already) in my posts and they were highly negative. I got a lot of responses with those types of posts though which was my sole aim. Pretty pathetic. Also, it is a hell of a lot easier to just make baseless BS posts than to make logical, well-thought out posts. But I'm done with my negative BS, baseless crappy posts. My rep might already be ruined though, I don't know.

AvIdGaMeR444

Congratulations (no sarcasm) You've found out what good posting is all about. I don't know if it was I who changed your mind about your posting habits but whatever the reason I'm glad you decided to change your ways. The less fanatical posters we have and the more posters that post with logic and sense the better. Keep it up and hell maybe you can prove me wrong by saying your rep is unrepairable.

Now to re-read the thread to see if I agree or disagree with it.

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#29 AvIdGaMeR444
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[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

I just realized that my other posts were going nowhere and I wasn't believe even half of what I was typing. I was dangerously close to trolling (if I wasn't already) in my posts and they were highly negative. I got a lot of responses with those types of posts though which was my sole aim. Pretty pathetic. Also, it is a hell of a lot easier to just make baseless BS posts than to make logical, well-thought out posts. But I'm done with my negative BS, baseless crappy posts. My rep might already be ruined though, I don't know.

Blackbond

Congratulations (no sarcasm) You've found out what good posting is all about. I don't know if it was I who changed your mind about your posting habits but whatever the reason I'm glad you decided to change your ways. The less fanatical posters we have and the more posters that post with logic and sense the better. Keep it up and hell maybe you can prove me wrong by saying your rep is unrepairable.

Now to re-read the thread to see if I agree or disagree with it.

I think I was eventually going to change my posting habits. I've gotten flamed and hated on so much in this forum, that it was time for a change. I've even had "challenge response posts" scattered throughout thelast couple of monthssaying that I couldn't make a decent thread to save my life. I just haven't been willing to really try...until now. I'm done posting crap. And yes, you did help a lot with that.

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#30 purplemidgets
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I'm going to narrow this down:

1.) It's the cheapest of the new consoles

2.) It offers a different type of gaming that is fun for the masses

3.) It has a game packed in that uses the new controls method.

That's it.

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#31 Tsug_Ze_Wind
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Well, I think I need to congratulate you here.

But, you could also just be saying this, and going back to bashing tomorrow. Keep this up though, and you'll get respect (back).

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#33 cheese5000
Member since 2007 • 83 Posts

I've been guilty of making a lot of pointless flamebait posts lately. I fully admit that. I've come dangerously close to becoming a troll on here, if I'm not already. My posts have been lame and not well thought out. I haven't put a lot of effort into my posts or have really even had reasonable things to say in my posts for awhile now. I'm going to attempt to change that with this post though. I made a promiseinanother topic that I was going to make a well-constructed, well thought outtopic for my next post. I am not going to flame anyconsole or gameat all this time. I am going to give legitimate reasons why I believe the Wii has been a huge success thus far.

Reasons why Wii has been so successful so far

1.MoreMarketing than Gamecube by far. I honestly think the marketing for Wii has been phenomenal. I have seen ads for Wii on some of the biggest networks on television on a fairly regular basis. It seems like Nintendo is marketing this console much more than they did Gamecube. This can only do nothing but help it. Yes, Gamecube had ads too, but from my experience, it seems Wii advertising is more prevalent than Gamecube.

2. The type of Marketing. Marketing alone usually doesn't help a product unless the marketing has some sort of impact on the consumer. Wii's marketing campaign has done just that. It has been simple but effective. "Wii would like to play" ads have been more of an eye grabber than most of the Gamecube marketing.The GC's "Who are you?" ads didn't really show how or in what way the GC stood out from the Xbox or PS2. Wii's marketing has shown exactly what Wii is all about.

3. The broad audience Wii is marketed towards.Laugh if you will, but one of the very 1st Wii ads appeared during "Dancing with the Stars". I remember reading posts on here saying how ridiculous it was for Nintendo to advertiseduring a "heavily female watched" show. It turns out this was ingenious. "Dancing with the Stars" aside, Nintendo is truly adverting its hearts out to all sorts of gamers and non-gamers alike.

4. The buildup of hype over a long period of time. The hype surrounding the Wii began in E305 when it was still codenamed "Revolution". There was mystery surrounding the console. Nintendo had let on that they were working on a vastly different controller, but no one (other than Nintendo)had any clue exactly what the controller would entail or what it would be like. There was a lot of speculation and talk about "Revolution". Nintendo began the hype machine with its subtle approach to keep the "Revolution" controller a mystery. Then at TGS that year, Nintendo finally decided to show the controller for the 1st time. Nintendo only showed off a few minigame type games (which laterbasically transformed into the Wii controller game"Wii play").There was just enough shown to excite gamingjounalists.Therewas a lot of controversy on how the controller looked or how anyone could use such a device to play games with.

But most of the feedback from journalists was positive innature. The slow buildup of hype over the months began to rise much faster now that the controller was shown.Other than gaming journalists, the gaming public still didn't have aclue how the controller really worked in a gaming environment. So, other than how the controller and nunchuck looked, there was still great mystery about how it worked. Sure, gaming journalists attempted to explainhow it worked, and the public knew it was going to be motion-sensitive at this point, butgamersweren'table to see it in action to really get the entire idea down. Therewas still much speculation. And becauseof this, the hype just grew and grew and grew.

Then before E306, there was an announcement that stunned everyone. The codename "Revolution" was changed permanently to "Wii". That caused a flood of controversy, and many jokes arose from the name. Nintendo knew exactly what they were doing though. They wanted a unique name to go with a unique consolecontroller. Most people seemed to hate the name (and several people thought Nintendo had completely gone off of their rockers), but even so, this name change sparked more hype about what "Wii" was going to be like. It got people talking, which is exactly what Nintendo wanted. Nintendo wanted as much focus on Wii as they could. They succeeded in getting more people to talk about Wii than Xbox 360 and PS3.

Then E306 happened. Nintendo succeeded. There was a huge line of people wanted to try out Wii. Nintendo had accomplished what it had set out to do before E306...

A. Build up hype over a long period of time.

B.Keep some mystery behind the Wii controller up until E306.

C. Change the name to Wii to get people talking more about Wii than the other 2 consoles.

After E306, the hype machine exploded on the internet. Since a heck of a lot more people tried out Wii than Xbox 360 and PS3 at E306, those experiences with Wii were relayed back to friends, family, etc. Word spread about Wii faster than Xbox 360 and PS3 as a result.

5. The Price. The $249.99 price tag for Wii seemed to sit well with most people because it included a free game to show off the Wii remote's capabilities. Even though this price was higher than earlier Nintendo consoles, it seemed legitimately fair to many people after seeing $399.99 and $599.99 for the other 2 consoles. Wii was 150$ cheaper than the other 2 consoles. Couple this with there being more hype for Wii in general. Sure, there was still some controversy that the Wii price was still too high, but it was short-lived for the most part.

6.The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess at launch. Nintendo wasn't going to allow the same marketing mistakes that Gamecube had this go round. Gamecube had "Luigi's Mansion" at launch. That sold fairly well, but it is definitely not nearly aspopular a game as the Zelda series. Nintendo had to make a decision that would tick off Gamecube owners. They knew it was only going to help Wii sales though. Nintendo made the decision to delay Twilight Princess on Gamecube and have it release a few weeks after its Wii counterpart.Nintendo also touted that Twilight Princess was a more engaging experience on Wii.Also, Nintendo said that Twilight Princess was the biggest and best Zelda game by far. This got the hype machine really rolling on that game. Also, showing how the game worked with the Wii remote and nunchuk also helped peak gamer interest.

7. The Wii remote and nunchuk. Many people welcomed a new way to play console games. Wii Sports being a free game with a Wii purchase helped show gamers what Wii was all about. For console gaming, it was a new, unique way of playing games. Nintendo has touted The Wii remote and nunchuk to be an "easier" way to play games. This has helped get non-gamers into gaming as well.

8. The Virtual Console and backwards compatability. When Nintendo announced that over 20 years of Nintendo games would be available to play on Wii, this sparked even more hype. Then Nintendo annouced that other games from other older consoles would be available for VC downloadsas well. GC games are backwards compatible. And with Super Smash Bros. Melee being the most popular Gamecube game, this helped fuel the fire even more.

9. Mii.I've read posts on here that make fun of Miis and the limited creation system of making them. Well, as it turns out, Miis are a popular part of Wii. A lot of people havemade caricatures of their favorite celebrities, family, themselves, etc. And being able to port your own Miis into certain Wii games didn't hurt the hype.

10.The size of Wii. Now, in America, this may not make much of a difference to gamers. But in Japan, this does make a difference to an extent. A lot of the living quarters in Japan have a lot less space than in America. This is just a fact. Wii being much, much smaller than PS3 is only helpful in Japan.

11. Many people were ready for a different game controlling mechanism. Nintendo has been innovative in creating control devices for consoles.A lot of what they have created has been utilized by other companies. Whether it is the D-pad, analog (yes, I know they did not create analog, but it was the 1st well-controlled analog console controller), shoulder buttons, etc, they have sought to innovate the industry. Gamecube controller did not distinguish itself from the N64 controller. This sure did not help Nintendo in any way. The GC controller really didn't distinguish itself from the PS2 or Xbox controller. In fact, many people seemed to believe it was worse than the PS2 controller. This was unexpected for Nintendo, who had previously innovated its controllers each gen. They really didn't do this with Gamecube.They more than made up for this with Wii. And this only helps. Xbox 360 controller is comfortable and has a better button layout than the Xbox controller, but it is not a different controlling mechanism. PS3 controller lost rumble and is basically the same as the PS2 controller (except for tilt control).

Before Wii, controlling games on consoles was basically the same process ever since dual-shock. And before dual-shock, the N64 controller had everything the Xbox and PS2 controllers had except for the extra analog stick. So, for the past several years before Wii, the controllers themselves might have had different button layouts and such. But the controlling mechanism was basically the same. People were ready for a change. That is where Wii comes in. The drastic change was at the right time and right place.

12. Online gaming. Nintendo has been saying online is coming to Wii games. It is here. The hype for online has helped fuel the Wii sales. And now that it is here, this helps all that much more.

13. The continued success of 1st party games fuels the hype. The success of 1st party Nintendo games has always been a factor. Even with the tame sales of Gamecube, the 1st party software was a huge success for the console. The hype for SSBB is enormous, as is the announcement of an online Mario Kart title coming. Super Mario Galaxy as well.

Ok, there are the reasons. One can argue that the Wii graphics are poor. Graphics havenever mattered. Look at Nintendo's handhelds. They have beaten all other handhelds on the market throughout the years. And throughout the years, there have been handhelds that are far superior graphically than Nintendo handhelds. It doesn't matter. Gameplay is what is important.

One can argue that Wii's success doesn't make sense because "good" games are not here. I guess it is all a matter of opinion. Some can argue that the games aren't great. And others can argue that Wii has plenty of good games if you know where to look. Then there is the Virtual Console which is a big success. There is always something to play on Wii.

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that was a lot to type
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#34 Eponique
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[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

Wall o' text.

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:P

cheese5000

that was a lot to type

Ahh! Don't quote the large thing!

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#35 marioraider
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Excellent post. We need more logical people in SW. But then again, this wouldn't be SW without those crazy people! :P
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#36 AARONRULZ1
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I have nothing against the Wii,in fact i'd get it over a PS3 or 360 any day.

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#37 legend26
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isss si this an actual chance of pice between fanboys in sw???? naaa. still that was a grate read
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#38 FireEmblem_Man
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Very nice post Avid!!! If only haterz would actually listen for once!!! I agree with every reason you have, expecially the online part because I have been waiting for Nintendo to go online with there games and it seems that they are doing it ever since the DS came in with online!!!
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#39 anasbouzid
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me, i personally dont care if i dont get responses...i always avoid creating harsh baseless fanboy hate-crime threads...sure, i have created alot of threads and most of them die very quickly...and sometimes i want to write something provocative...but i dont for my own selfrespect....if im a hypocrite then everything i say holds less weight overall...

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#40 darkmark91
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Bravo!!! *clap* *clap*

Many reasons why the Wii will succeed!!!

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#41 hamstergeddon
Member since 2006 • 7188 Posts

Probably your best post ever. Everything in there was true.

Eponique

agreed.  Reall long, but good.  I pretty much agree with everything, and it brought up some points I haven't thought of before   
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#42 Metroid_Time
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I actually agree with everything in there. Crazy world we live in.
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#43 nintendo_fan675
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Wait didn't you make that Metroid Prime 3 bashing thread??:???:?

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#44 Tylendal
Member since 2006 • 14681 Posts

You... you're making an article not bashing something? :shock:

Good read and some good points. Nice job, Avid.

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He actually does that sometimes. Usually about the D.S. or Metroid Prime.

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#45 azimiballer
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i just read the titles andthey all make sense.. good job
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#46 fanboy-buster
Member since 2006 • 4594 Posts

welcome the gamers Nirvana....its all about the games:) not companies or fanboyism

it is up to you if you want to stay in here:P

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lol, you tricked me, I thought you were going to type $250 thirteen times.
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#48 The_AI
Member since 2006 • 4791 Posts

Whoah! :shock:

Wow, Avid, wow...

This shall henceforth be known as AVIDGAMER'S FINEST HOUR!

Seriously man, that was great. I'm wiping your name off of my "Notorious Fanboys" list.

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#49 wagexslave
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Reasons why Wii has been so successful so far

1.MoreMarketing than Gamecube by far.

2. The type of Marketing.

3. The broad audience Wii is marketed towards.

4. The buildup of hype over a long period of time.

5. The Price.

6.The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess at launch.

7. The Wii remote and nunchuk.

8. The Virtual Console and backwards compatability.

9. Mii.

10.The size of Wii.

11. Many people were ready for a different game controlling mechanism.

12. Online gaming.

13. The continued success of 1st party games fuels the hype.

AvIdGaMeR444

i guarantee those are the only parts of your post anyone on these forums will read

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#50 Sonicplys
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there is 14 reasons, you forgot 1

14. Better than the 360 and PS3: The Wii is so much better than its competitors because Nintendo does not make faulty hardware, they are not stealing your money like Sony and MS does and because the best game in video game history, Super Smash Bros Brawl, is only on the Nintendo Wii. Nintendo does it best, dont be caught with overpriced, overhyped and overrated systems like the 360 and PS3.