Wii haters: You do not understand the concept of disruption.

Read this article and you will see the light and the brilliance of Nintendo. http://malstrom.50webs.com/birdman.html

didnt read it, but i understand this casual stuffr_gam3

one man's opinion isn't a fact.

to be honest i found the article poorly written, so didn't read it all.

as an ex wii owner i was pissed off that my game choices were practicaly made for me, with so much rubbish released and very few good games, i was left with no choice smg,nmh,ssbb,spm,mp3,loz and thats it practicaly

now i have choice

one man's opinion isn't a fact.

kaangonultas

Thank you. The article is interesting and well-written, and does make some good points, but I highly doubt Nintendo has a "tiered" strategy for releasing games, and a list of which games will be "disruptive" or not. Nintendo got lucky; their idea about bringing more people (yes, casuals) into gaming caught fire, and they're reaping the rewards. The concept behind the Wii is as simple as that.

one man's opinion isn't a fact.

kaangonultas

[QUOTE="kaangonultas"]

one man's opinion isn't a fact.

SeanBond

Thank you. The article is interesting and well-written, and does make some good points, but I highly doubt Nintendo has a "tiered" strategy for releasing games, and a list of which games will be "disruptive" or not. Nintendo got lucky; their idea about bringing more people (yes, casuals) into gaming caught fire, and they're reaping the rewards. The concept behind the Wii is as simple as that.

[QUOTE="SeanBond"][QUOTE="kaangonultas"]

one man's opinion isn't a fact.

Ghost_Dub

Thank you. The article is interesting and well-written, and does make some good points, but I highly doubt Nintendo has a "tiered" strategy for releasing games, and a list of which games will be "disruptive" or not. Nintendo got lucky; their idea about bringing more people (yes, casuals) into gaming caught fire, and they're reaping the rewards. The concept behind the Wii is as simple as that.

I did read the article. And no, it wasn't made to enlighten people like me; it was made so that this guy could put his opinion of Nintendo's business strategies on paper. Just because I don't 100% agree with the article doesn't mean I didn't read it; that's the definition of ignorance.

to be honest i found the article poorly written, so didn't read it all.

geordie73

I seriously lol'd at that sentence.

[QUOTE="Ghost_Dub"][QUOTE="SeanBond"][QUOTE="kaangonultas"]

one man's opinion isn't a fact.

SeanBond

Thank you. The article is interesting and well-written, and does make some good points, but I highly doubt Nintendo has a "tiered" strategy for releasing games, and a list of which games will be "disruptive" or not. Nintendo got lucky; their idea about bringing more people (yes, casuals) into gaming caught fire, and they're reaping the rewards. The concept behind the Wii is as simple as that.

I did read the article. And no, it wasn't made to enlighten people like me; it was made so that this guy could put his opinion of Nintendo's business strategies on paper. Just because I don't 100% agree with the article doesn't mean I didn't read it; that's the definition of ignorance.

Also if you had read the article you would know it is not "casuals" that Nintendos first tier was focused on.

There was a few good points buried in that article, but overall it blew. It was rambling and incoherent. I also think it tried to make the issue much more complicated than it is.

It is very obvious that there are hardcore gamers and there are casual gamers. Hardcore gamers crave immersion, so they buy systems with top notch graphics. Casuals don't crave the immersion so much, seeing as they are not as into the hobby as hardcore gamers, and thus are more content with the simplicity and graphical inferiority of the Wii.

[QUOTE="kaangonultas"]

one man's opinion isn't a fact.

SeanBond

Thank you. The article is interesting and well-written, and does make some good points, but I highly doubt Nintendo has a "tiered" strategy for releasing games, and a list of which games will be "disruptive" or not. Nintendo got lucky; their idea about bringing more people (yes, casuals) into gaming caught fire, and they're reaping the rewards. The concept behind the Wii is as simple as that.

im not so sure.....they do seem to know what there doing.

and they have done this before. if u compare the wii to the nes....theres an awful lot of in common in terms of business practice. this is not the first time nintendo focused on families...nor is it the first time they have made very simple and easy to understand games. there is of course an element of luck (like all business) but i think iwata-san simply dug up the old business plans from the 80s and said "do that". and like the wii, the nes suffered from an awful lot of crap from devs trying to cash in on its unexpected success. the nes looked to make games more accessible with its simple controller...alot like the wii.

the more i look at it...the more i think "this is the nes of the 21st century".

So what happens when third party devs create AAA new İPs(No more heroes)? It sells even worse than the carnival games. İ guess this guy forgot to mention it.

[QUOTE="kaangonultas"]

one man's opinion isn't a fact.

Ghost_Dub

So what happens when third party devs create AAA new İPs(No more heroes)? It sells even worse than the carnival games. İ guess this guy forgot to mention it.

kaangonultas

you didn't read the article did you? :roll:

good read, too long didnt read it all, but it got some good points though...

anyway i dont give a adamnt about what pple say or media says about the wii and gaming, i have my own real experience so why would i take advice from sombody who mybe not even a gamer????

i have a wii and a hiEnd PC and a 46" flat.

i like the wii, its cool, i enjoy it evry time with friends and with my wife (especially the boxing :)) . however, my PC is still the king of gaming for me, nothing equals playing Crysis, Sins of a solar empire or the Witcher... on hi def.

my wife prefers the wii, i know that she is not really into gaming (she plays once a week or so), one thing is for sure is that she is not buying a new game every week as i do... so brief i think even if casual games will sell from time to time, hardcore games will stillbe the real deal and will always sell more.

so for example for the last few months, i bought like 4 PC games and 0 wii game. maybe ill get the wii fit when its out.

all that mario thing doesnt really appeal to me...

im also planing to get a PS3 both for games and BluRay, and for that system at least i know that im gonna be getting games, a lot actually, like MGS4...

[QUOTE="kaangonultas"]

So what happens when third party devs create AAA new İPs(No more heroes)? It sells even worse than the carnival games. İ guess this guy forgot to mention it.

Ontain

you didn't read the article did you? :roll:

[QUOTE="SeanBond"][QUOTE="Ghost_Dub"][QUOTE="SeanBond"][QUOTE="kaangonultas"]

one man's opinion isn't a fact.

Ghost_Dub

Thank you. The article is interesting and well-written, and does make some good points, but I highly doubt Nintendo has a "tiered" strategy for releasing games, and a list of which games will be "disruptive" or not. Nintendo got lucky; their idea about bringing more people (yes, casuals) into gaming caught fire, and they're reaping the rewards. The concept behind the Wii is as simple as that.

I did read the article. And no, it wasn't made to enlighten people like me; it was made so that this guy could put his opinion of Nintendo's business strategies on paper. Just because I don't 100% agree with the article doesn't mean I didn't read it; that's the definition of ignorance.

Also if you had read the article you would know it is not "casuals" that Nintendos first tier was focused on.

with that sentence you contradict yourself because the casuals are those nintendo should thank for the Wii's success

[QUOTE="Ghost_Dub"][QUOTE="SeanBond"][QUOTE="Ghost_Dub"]It's obvious that you did not read the article, it was made to enlighten people like you. Atleast read the quotes of the people who work for Nintendo.sambalimbo

I did read the article. And no, it wasn't made to enlighten people like me; it was made so that this guy could put his opinion of Nintendo's business strategies on paper. Just because I don't 100% agree with the article doesn't mean I didn't read it; that's the definition of ignorance.

Also if you had read the article you would know it is not "casuals" that Nintendos first tier was focused on.

with that sentence you contradict yourself because the casuals are those nintendo should thank for the Wii's success

Even if they weren't going for casuals, casuals are drawn to it in a major way, because of the simplicity of the experience.

If Nintendo can continue owning Microsoft and Sony on the wings of frivolous games, they will continue to do so.

Nintendo strikes me as sort of lazy these days. They don't even seem to want to dig deep enough into their brains to implement the control scheme in an interesting way while still avoiding a minigame-like experience.

[QUOTE="sambalimbo"][QUOTE="Ghost_Dub"][QUOTE="SeanBond"][QUOTE="Ghost_Dub"]It's obvious that you did not read the article, it was made to enlighten people like you. Atleast read the quotes of the people who work for Nintendo.Ghost_Dub

I did read the article. And no, it wasn't made to enlighten people like me; it was made so that this guy could put his opinion of Nintendo's business strategies on paper. Just because I don't 100% agree with the article doesn't mean I didn't read it; that's the definition of ignorance.

Also if you had read the article you would know it is not "casuals" that Nintendos first tier was focused on.

with that sentence you contradict yourself because the casuals are those nintendo should thank for the Wii's success

They sure understand the concept of losing thoughthe_h_bomb

I dont like the Wii one bit, but the folks who are trying to paint it as the loser as deluding themselves.

The Wii owned. It's clear as day.

I couldn't care less about this. Nintendo wants to make money? Big deal.

The Wii is a simple, stripped down console, that offers a very basic gaming experience aimed at non-gamers. I couldn't care less about the Wii.

[QUOTE="Ghost_Dub"][QUOTE="sambalimbo"][QUOTE="Ghost_Dub"][QUOTE="SeanBond"]I did read the article. And no, it wasn't made to enlighten people like me; it was made so that this guy could put his opinion of Nintendo's business strategies on paper. Just because I don't 100% agree with the article doesn't mean I didn't read it; that's the definition of ignorance.

kaangonultas

Also if you had read the article you would know it is not "casuals" that Nintendos first tier was focused on.

with that sentence you contradict yourself because the casuals are those nintendo should thank for the Wii's success

The word casual (or words like non gamer) has never in ANY way actually matched up to anything nintendo has said, or been an accurate way to measure any of nintendo's success. That way of understanding nintendo's success has lead to a lot of faulty assumptions and wasted investment. This makes sense since when you look at the most successful games on the wii, there is a huge mix of casual and hardcore games. The successful wii games are the user friendly ones...

one man's opinion isn't a fact.

kaangonultas

They sure understand the concept of losing thoughthe_h_bomb

I couldn't care less about this. Nintendo wants to make money? Big deal.

The Wii is a simple, stripped down console, that offers a very basic gaming experience aimed at non-gamers. I couldn't care less about the Wii.

evilross

[QUOTE="kaangonultas"][QUOTE="Ghost_Dub"][QUOTE="sambalimbo"][QUOTE="Ghost_Dub"]You say it's just his opinion, but if you read the quotes of Nintedo's people you will see that he is correct. Saying Nintendo just got lucky is severly incorrect. I could care less if you agree or not, but you have to give credit where it is due.

Also if you had read the article you would know it is not "casuals" that Nintendos first tier was focused on.

GunSmith1_basic

with that sentence you contradict yourself because the casuals are those nintendo should thank for the Wii's success

The word casual (or words like non gamer) has never in ANY way actually matched up to anything nintendo has said, or been an accurate way to measure any of nintendo's success. That way of understanding nintendo's success has lead to a lot of faulty assumptions and wasted investment. This makes sense since when you look at the most successful games on the wii, there is a huge mix of casual and hardcore games. The successful wii games are the user friendly ones...

[QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]They sure understand the concept of losing thoughAgentA-Mi6

I clicked on the link because it said Birdman. I was hoping it was Harvey Birdman, because he is funny. I saw the pic of the dork with the stupid wings. I promptly hit the X button and cowered in a corner because it was kinda scary. FEAR THE SCARY GUY WITH WINGS!

I understand everything I need to about the Wii. I know that it has horrid graphics, that the motion controls are not only gimmicky but also not precise, I know that the system has an incredible lack of good games, and I know that the 360 and PS3 each have easily more than 10 times as many good games as the Wii.Falcon4AF_Ace