Wii.. Im really scared for the Future of gaming

As a hardcore PS360 gamer. Im huge into graphics, shooters and online multiplayer.. News that the Wii is selling so so well really scares me as Online shooter/hardcore type gamer.. Im afraid if this trend continues we will slowly start seeing the end of PS3/360 type gaming and if thats the case i will really give up gaming for good or might go PC.. I am waaaay too spoiled on games like Warhawk,Halo 3, Gears, Resistance and COD4 to give all that up for something like.. the wii. I just could not do it.

Those Wii commercials are making me mad.. The wii is just so gimmicky its not even funny. The wii has no games with any replay value whatsoever.. Single player only games just will not cut it this gen... Im really happy for Wii owners that the console is selling well, but as a hardcore gamer im really really starting to get worried about the future of gaming if the Wii continues its trend

Im so with you on this one, I have all the consoles right now and wii is by far my least favorite, the games are plenty fun..... in short bursts, too bad im a hardcore gamer and im not going to want to play the thing for only 5 minutes a day, but thats really all they are worth at the moment. So far the game I've played the longest overall I believe is RE:UC for 6 hours something, and thats over super mario galaxy and zelda :(

You're scared of a somewhat inferior console!

:lol:

As a hardcore PS360 gamer. Im huge into graphics, shooters and online multiplayer.. News that the Wii is selling so so well really scares me as Online shooter/hardcore type gamer.. Im afraid if this trend continues we will slowly start seeing the end of PS3/360 type gaming and if thats the case i will really give up gaming for good or might go PC.. I am waaaay too spoiled on games like Warhawk,Halo 3, Gears, Resistance and COD4 to give all that up for something like.. the wii. I just could not do it.

Those Wii commercials are making me mad.. The wii is just so gimmicky its not even funny. The wii has no games with any replay value whatsoever.. Single player only games just will not cut it this gen... Im really happy for Wii owners that the console is selling well, but as a hardcore gamer im really really starting to get worried about the future of gaming if the Wii continues its trend

ChristopherM80

Dude, Hardcore? Casual?

So you like to play Halo, Gears, COD4 and what not right, Warhawk and Resistance?

Hmm, what do all those games have in common,... GUNS!

shooting, sure its fun but y'know doesn't everyone agree shooting something in the head is fun right?

You might say people like to "casually" blow alien/terrorists heads up right?

So, people wouldn't be "hardcore" if they like mixing shooters/action games like Metroid Prime 3 and Medal of Honor Heroes 2, with say,... I dunno Okami, Zack and Wiki, Resident Evil 4, Super Smash Bros Brawl, Manhunt 2, Bully, No More Heroes, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Super Mario Galaxy, Battalion Wars 2, Guitar Hero 3, Legend of Zelda, Tales of Symphonia 2, Kings Story, Animal Crossing.

nah, people who play a variety of games that aren't made by american publishers that involve guns aren't hardcore.

They're casuals.

And y'know what?

They like playing good games.

Wow, didn't think there were good games without guns?

Crazy, Crazy World.

By your logic the SNES,PS1,PS2 ruined this generation of gaming.

You're scared of a somewhat inferior console!

:lol:

Shad0ki11

No but what i am scared of is blind consumers that keep on buying the wii which will eventually lead to higher priced consoles like 360/ps3 to fade out only leaving Nintendo the lead console maker which in turn will turn devs to make Wii games.. That is what worries me

yeah I pass out flyers everyday encouraging people to buy the wii because the of the crap graphics and controller. Its what I do to make sure the future of gaming is ruined for you because I don't like you.youngtongue

ROFL Fricken great.

Anyways, as a simulation/Strategy/quirky game hardcore gamer, I'm glad to see the Wii suceeding. If I can get obscene ammounts of simulation and strategy on the PC and tons of quirky/different games with the Wii like Katamari and Trauma Center, this generation will be completely awesome.

[QUOTE="ChristopherM80"]

As a hardcore PS360 gamer. Im huge into graphics, shooters and online multiplayer.. News that the Wii is selling so so well really scares me as Online shooter/hardcore type gamer.. Im afraid if this trend continues we will slowly start seeing the end of PS3/360 type gaming and if thats the case i will really give up gaming for good or might go PC.. I am waaaay too spoiled on games like Warhawk,Halo 3, Gears, Resistance and COD4 to give all that up for something like.. the wii. I just could not do it.

Those Wii commercials are making me mad.. The wii is just so gimmicky its not even funny. The wii has no games with any replay value whatsoever.. Single player only games just will not cut it this gen... Im really happy for Wii owners that the console is selling well, but as a hardcore gamer im really really starting to get worried about the future of gaming if the Wii continues its trend

darth-pyschosis

Dude, Hardcore? Casual?

So you like to play Halo, Gears, COD4 and what not right, Warhawk and Resistance?

Hmm, what do all those games have in common,... GUNS!

shooting, sure its fun but y'know doesn't everyone agree shooting something in the head is fun right?

You might say people like to "casually" blow alien/terrorists heads up right?

So, people wouldn't be "hardcore" if they like mixing shooters/action games like Metroid Prime 3 and Medal of Honor Heroes 2, with say,... I dunno Okami, Zack and Wiki, Resident Evil 4, Super Smash Bros Brawl, Manhunt 2, Bully, No More Heroes, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Super Mario Galaxy, Battalion Wars 2, Guitar Hero 3, Legend of Zelda, Tales of Symphonia 2, Kings Story, Animal Crossing.

nah, people who play a variety of games that aren't made by american publishers that involve guns aren't hardcore.

They're casuals.

And y'know what?

They like playing good games.

Wow, didn't think there were good games without guns?

Crazy, Crazy World.

By your logic the SNES,PS1,PS2 ruined this generation of gaming.

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I don't think you have anything to worry about if you look at the third party titles being released on Wii.-Renegade

True.. But you never know.. next thing you know Epic could do something on Wii and utilize the Unreal Engine for :::Shutters:: a kiddy game rated "E" yuck

As a hardcore PS360 gamer. Im huge into graphics, shooters and online multiplayer.. News that the Wii is selling so so well really scares me as Online shooter/hardcore type gamer.. Im afraid if this trend continues we will slowly start seeing the end of PS3/360 type gaming and if thats the case i will really give up gaming for good or might go PC.. I am waaaay too spoiled on games like Warhawk,Halo 3, Gears, Resistance and COD4 to give all that up for something like.. the wii. I just could not do it.

Those Wii commercials are making me mad.. The wii is just so gimmicky its not even funny. The wii has no games with any replay value whatsoever.. Single player only games just will not cut it this gen... Im really happy for Wii owners that the console is selling well, but as a hardcore gamer im really really starting to get worried about the future of gaming if the Wii continues its trend

ChristopherM80

Dude, just live with it. Iam a HUGE platformer fan--back in the N64 days things were great, but now everybody's too infatuated with manly, alien-shooting gorefests.

I'm sick of people saying that if they play online shooters, they're "hardcore." I like the genre pretty well, but those games you mentioned are very mainstream and have lots of casual appeal (but I'll admit I know mothing about Warhawk).

As a hardcore PS360 gamer. Im huge into graphics, shooters and online multiplayer.. News that the Wii is selling so so well really scares me as Online shooter/hardcore type gamer..

ChristopherM80

You're not what I'd call a "hardcore gamer". The "casual" gaming market has less soccer moms and five year olds than you might think and a whole mess of people like you; the kinda guys who wouldn't bother with something like Psychonauts, but love them some good GTA or Halo.

Sorry but if the only thing that does it for you is eye candy shooters with online trash talking/leaderboards, you'd probably be better off calling yourself casual. If you're an honest to goodness gamer, then broaden your horizons a bit; diversify your tastes. Nintendo's probably the best developer there is.

You need to look at the big picture about what the Wii is doing. It's opening up the video market to where Sony and Microsoft couldn't even touch. All Nintendo is doing is opening the market to a wider audience. Is that going to stop people from buying a 360 or PS3 in the future? Of course not. ChrisMun

actually, it does cause harm

devs start to notice that they can make more money then god by making a mediocre game that appeals to those new audiences the wii opened up

hence, we may start to see less and less hardcore games. its simple logic really, why would anyone do more work to make less money

and yes, i do have a wii...so i have a right to voice an opinion

You need to look at the big picture about what the Wii is doing. It's opening up the video market to where Sony and Microsoft couldn't even touch. All Nintendo is doing is opening the market to a wider audience. Is that going to stop people from buying a 360 or PS3 in the future? Of course not. ChrisMun

...and Will Wright has the gall to bring Spore to the Wii. It must be a lame, shallow, casual game.

You should really try Super Mario Galaxy. It renewed my interest in Wii. It's simply an amazing game. It's like Mario 64 on Crack with traces of classic mario games mixed together to make a very trippy fun gaming experience.CPM_basic

[QUOTE="ChristopherM80"]

As a hardcore PS360 gamer. Im huge into graphics, shooters and online multiplayer.. News that the Wii is selling so so well really scares me as Online shooter/hardcore type gamer..

Ehlohim

You're not what I'd call a "hardcore gamer". The "casual" gaming market has less soccer moms and five year olds than you might think and a whole mess of people like you; the kinda guys who wouldn't bother with something like Psychonauts, but love them some good GTA or Halo.

Sorry but if the only thing that does it for you is eye candy shooters with online trash talking/leaderboards, you'd probably be better off calling yourself casual. If you're an honest to goodness gamer, then broaden your horizons a bit; diversify your tastes. Nintendo's probably the best developer there is.

I honestly dont like classes when it comes to games. I might not be a hardcore gamer, but i do know I love Halo,Gears,Resistance,warhawk etc.. Im huge on graphics and online shooters.. The wii just doesnt do it for me although i loved ratchet and clank and uncharted however and MGS is my fav franchise of all time..

liking hd graphics and online shooters doesn't make for a "hardcore" gamer. it just makes for a videophile who likes online shooters.

what do you classify someone like me who likes online shooters AND wii games?

I still have yet to see how the Wii sells so well. I mean, Nintendo has used this technology before with the Powerglove (albeit it's more sophisticated now obviously) and that sold terribly. On top of that, the console basically alienates hardcore gamers due to its somewhat kid centered games and Controller (No, i'm not saying it's kiddy but games like Elebits don't help its situation). I mean, sure, kids may like swinging a controller around to their 900th party game but it doesn't really apply to hardcore players. I will say that Zelda (which i beat) and SMG are great titles but they are essentially all that is really worth playing to hardcore players (at least me). Couple this with the fact that online play with the Wii is a joke and it doesn't fair well against the PS3/360. Yet, it still sells. I suppose Nintendo hit its market of casuals with their sales and it shows.

I'm not really worried so to speak but it definitely is mind boggling. I highly doubt that Sony and MS would go and do what Nintendo did with their next console, especially considering FPS, racing games, fighters, Third person shooters, and sports titles (among others) all play terribly on the Wii (at least when comparing them to PS3/360 titles of the same genre). If Sony and MS do what Nintendo did then i'm essentially just sticking to PS3/360 for the next generation (we're talking extreme here though, as in Sony and MS doing exactly what Nintendo did with their controller and games). I don't think that'll happen though so rest easy. Keep in mind, this is my opinion.

[QUOTE="ChristopherM80"]

As a hardcore PS360 gamer. Im huge into graphics, shooters and online multiplayer.. News that the Wii is selling so so well really scares me as Online shooter/hardcore type gamer..

Ehlohim

You're not what I'd call a "hardcore gamer". The "casual" gaming market has less soccer moms and five year olds than you might think and a whole mess of people like you; the kinda guys who wouldn't bother with something like Psychonauts, but love them some good GTA or Halo.

Sorry but if the only thing that does it for you is eye candy shooters with online trash talking/leaderboards, you'd probably be better off calling yourself casual. If you're an honest to goodness gamer, then broaden your horizons a bit; diversify your tastes. Nintendo's probably the best developer there is.

So freakin' true it's not even funny. Kids these days ignore Psychonauts and call SMG kiddy (no boobs and blood!), then claim they're "hardcore" for playing HALO 3. It's just gotten stupid to where these kids are too busy trying to be manly and macho to play artistic and niche games.

As a hardcore PS360 gamer. Im huge into graphics, shooters and online multiplayer.. News that the Wii is selling so so well really scares me as Online shooter/hardcore type gamer.. Im afraid if this trend continues we will slowly start seeing the end of PS3/360 type gaming and if thats the case i will really give up gaming for good or might go PC.. I am waaaay too spoiled on games like Warhawk,Halo 3, Gears, Resistance and COD4 to give all that up for something like.. the wii. I just could not do it.

Those Wii commercials are making me mad.. The wii is just so gimmicky its not even funny. The wii has no games with any replay value whatsoever.. Single player only games just will not cut it this gen... Im really happy for Wii owners that the console is selling well, but as a hardcore gamer im really really starting to get worried about the future of gaming if the Wii continues its trend

ChristopherM80

Yes, and BioShock's multiplayer is what makes it so great, right? And Uncharted and Ratchet and Clank have such great multiplayer as well!

Even though the mainstream sucks a subculture doesn't have to die. This is true in everything in life. If I had your irrational fears I would shoot myself by now. The music I listen to is not the popular mainstream, the gaming I do is not the mainstream, the car I like is not the mainstream....hell, everthing I like is against the mainstream culture and casuals.whocares9

Well said.

yeah, my teacher recently bought a Wii, yes my teacher. She bought it to play Wii Sports and some carnival games piece of crap. If you have a Wii by good games like metroid and Super Mario Galaxy. not to play something lameJamesEFresH17

I totally agree. There are lots of people who buy Wii just for Wii Sports, but there are actually a few of us out there who buy Wii for the first-party titles, and creative stuff like Zack and Wiki.

At the same time, there are lots of knowledgeable gamers that buy 360, but there are also lots who only buy it for EA Sports and online shooters (namely Halo 3), not caring about any other types of games.

so graphics, online and shooting is what a hardcore game is these days :|

i might aswell quit gaming now.

[QUOTE="Ehlohim"][QUOTE="ChristopherM80"]

As a hardcore PS360 gamer. Im huge into graphics, shooters and online multiplayer.. News that the Wii is selling so so well really scares me as Online shooter/hardcore type gamer..

--ProtoMan--

You're not what I'd call a "hardcore gamer". The "casual" gaming market has less soccer moms and five year olds than you might think and a whole mess of people like you; the kinda guys who wouldn't bother with something like Psychonauts, but love them some good GTA or Halo.

Sorry but if the only thing that does it for you is eye candy shooters with online trash talking/leaderboards, you'd probably be better off calling yourself casual. If you're an honest to goodness gamer, then broaden your horizons a bit; diversify your tastes. Nintendo's probably the best developer there is.

So freakin' true it's not even funny. Kids these days ignore Psychonauts and call SMG kiddy (no boobs and blood!), then claim they're "hardcore" for playing HALO 3. It's just gotten stupid to where these kids are too busy trying to be manly and macho to play artistic and niche games.

its so ironic that if you're into violent hd games and nothing else, you're considered hardcore. when in reality, these are the most narrow minded gamers out there today

liking hd graphics and online shooters doesn't make for a "hardcore" gamer. it just makes for a videophile who likes online shooters.

what do you classify someone like me who likes online shooters AND wii games?

Skunk_Mullet

Isnt there like only 1 online shooter for the Wii?

[QUOTE="Skunk_Mullet"]

liking hd graphics and online shooters doesn't make for a "hardcore" gamer. it just makes for a videophile who likes online shooters.

what do you classify someone like me who likes online shooters AND wii games?

jet052006

Isnt there like only 1 online shooter for the Wii?

[QUOTE="Skunk_Mullet"]

liking hd graphics and online shooters doesn't make for a "hardcore" gamer. it just makes for a videophile who likes online shooters.

what do you classify someone like me who likes online shooters AND wii games?

jet052006

Isnt there like only 1 online shooter for the Wii?

it could be quite possible that the shooters i like are on other consoles

[QUOTE="--ProtoMan--"][QUOTE="Ehlohim"][QUOTE="ChristopherM80"]

As a hardcore PS360 gamer. Im huge into graphics, shooters and online multiplayer.. News that the Wii is selling so so well really scares me as Online shooter/hardcore type gamer..

Skunk_Mullet

You're not what I'd call a "hardcore gamer". The "casual" gaming market has less soccer moms and five year olds than you might think and a whole mess of people like you; the kinda guys who wouldn't bother with something like Psychonauts, but love them some good GTA or Halo.

Sorry but if the only thing that does it for you is eye candy shooters with online trash talking/leaderboards, you'd probably be better off calling yourself casual. If you're an honest to goodness gamer, then broaden your horizons a bit; diversify your tastes. Nintendo's probably the best developer there is.

So freakin' true it's not even funny. Kids these days ignore Psychonauts and call SMG kiddy (no boobs and blood!), then claim they're "hardcore" for playing HALO 3. It's just gotten stupid to where these kids are too busy trying to be manly and macho to play artistic and niche games.

its so ironic that if you're into violent hd games and nothing else, you're considered hardcore. when in reality, these are the most narrow minded gamers out there today

Exactly. I know more about video games than anybody I know, but by SW standards I am a casual because I like Nintendo more than Microsoft and Sony.Some gamers play maybe two genres of games (GTA and Halo :D) and then get on SW and tell everyone how Wii is such crap because it's so casual.

[QUOTE="jet052006"][QUOTE="Skunk_Mullet"]

liking hd graphics and online shooters doesn't make for a "hardcore" gamer. it just makes for a videophile who likes online shooters.

what do you classify someone like me who likes online shooters AND wii games?

falconclan

Isnt there like only 1 online shooter for the Wii?

Since you seem to know so much, what is a "TRUE" online game? I'm a stupid sheep, so enlighten me.

[QUOTE="Skunk_Mullet"][QUOTE="--ProtoMan--"][QUOTE="Ehlohim"][QUOTE="ChristopherM80"]

As a hardcore PS360 gamer. Im huge into graphics, shooters and online multiplayer.. News that the Wii is selling so so well really scares me as Online shooter/hardcore type gamer..

--ProtoMan--

You're not what I'd call a "hardcore gamer". The "casual" gaming market has less soccer moms and five year olds than you might think and a whole mess of people like you; the kinda guys who wouldn't bother with something like Psychonauts, but love them some good GTA or Halo.

Sorry but if the only thing that does it for you is eye candy shooters with online trash talking/leaderboards, you'd probably be better off calling yourself casual. If you're an honest to goodness gamer, then broaden your horizons a bit; diversify your tastes. Nintendo's probably the best developer there is.

So freakin' true it's not even funny. Kids these days ignore Psychonauts and call SMG kiddy (no boobs and blood!), then claim they're "hardcore" for playing HALO 3. It's just gotten stupid to where these kids are too busy trying to be manly and macho to play artistic and niche games.

its so ironic that if you're into violent hd games and nothing else, you're considered hardcore. when in reality, these are the most narrow minded gamers out there today

Exactly. I know more about video games than anybody I know, but by SW standards I am a casual because I like Nintendo more than Microsoft and Sony.Some gamers play maybe two genres of games (GTA and Halo :D) and then get on SW and tell everyone how Wii is such crap because it's so casual.

Nintendo themselves stated that they were targeting the casual market with the Wii. :|

[QUOTE="--ProtoMan--"][QUOTE="Skunk_Mullet"][QUOTE="--ProtoMan--"][QUOTE="Ehlohim"][QUOTE="ChristopherM80"]

As a hardcore PS360 gamer. Im huge into graphics, shooters and online multiplayer.. News that the Wii is selling so so well really scares me as Online shooter/hardcore type gamer..

Puckhog04

You're not what I'd call a "hardcore gamer". The "casual" gaming market has less soccer moms and five year olds than you might think and a whole mess of people like you; the kinda guys who wouldn't bother with something like Psychonauts, but love them some good GTA or Halo.

Sorry but if the only thing that does it for you is eye candy shooters with online trash talking/leaderboards, you'd probably be better off calling yourself casual. If you're an honest to goodness gamer, then broaden your horizons a bit; diversify your tastes. Nintendo's probably the best developer there is.

So freakin' true it's not even funny. Kids these days ignore Psychonauts and call SMG kiddy (no boobs and blood!), then claim they're "hardcore" for playing HALO 3. It's just gotten stupid to where these kids are too busy trying to be manly and macho to play artistic and niche games.

its so ironic that if you're into violent hd games and nothing else, you're considered hardcore. when in reality, these are the most narrow minded gamers out there today

Exactly. I know more about video games than anybody I know, but by SW standards I am a casual because I like Nintendo more than Microsoft and Sony.Some gamers play maybe two genres of games (GTA and Halo :D) and then get on SW and tell everyone how Wii is such crap because it's so casual.

Nintendo themselves stated that they were targeting the casual market with the Wii. :|

You can target multiple groups at the same time. Whoa! Shocker huh?

[QUOTE="--ProtoMan--"][QUOTE="Skunk_Mullet"][QUOTE="--ProtoMan--"][QUOTE="Ehlohim"][QUOTE="ChristopherM80"]

As a hardcore PS360 gamer. Im huge into graphics, shooters and online multiplayer.. News that the Wii is selling so so well really scares me as Online shooter/hardcore type gamer..

Puckhog04

You're not what I'd call a "hardcore gamer". The "casual" gaming market has less soccer moms and five year olds than you might think and a whole mess of people like you; the kinda guys who wouldn't bother with something like Psychonauts, but love them some good GTA or Halo.

Sorry but if the only thing that does it for you is eye candy shooters with online trash talking/leaderboards, you'd probably be better off calling yourself casual. If you're an honest to goodness gamer, then broaden your horizons a bit; diversify your tastes. Nintendo's probably the best developer there is.

So freakin' true it's not even funny. Kids these days ignore Psychonauts and call SMG kiddy (no boobs and blood!), then claim they're "hardcore" for playing HALO 3. It's just gotten stupid to where these kids are too busy trying to be manly and macho to play artistic and niche games.

its so ironic that if you're into violent hd games and nothing else, you're considered hardcore. when in reality, these are the most narrow minded gamers out there today

Exactly. I know more about video games than anybody I know, but by SW standards I am a casual because I like Nintendo more than Microsoft and Sony.Some gamers play maybe two genres of games (GTA and Halo :D) and then get on SW and tell everyone how Wii is such crap because it's so casual.

Nintendo themselves stated that they were targeting the casual market with the Wii. :|

Well duh... don't treat me like I'm stupid. What, am I not supposed to buy a Wii? Am I not supposed to buy things I like? I fail to see your point. Yes Wii is aimed at the casual market, but it's annoying when I hear this from casual 360 gamers who think online shooters are the greates thing ever.

You just proved my point. You try to stereotype people by what console they own, when it's clear that Wii owners like myself can be much more knowledgeable than PS3/360 owners like the TC.

You can target multiple groups at the same time. Whoa! Shocker huh?

Yet, Nintendo stated what they did and for a reason, that was their target audience. They didn't say "Casuals/Hardcore gamers/older moms/old people" blah blah. They stated Casuals, that's it. So now you're going to tell me what their target audience was and claim that it's your opinion on the matter is more credible than Nintendo's?Wow, ok. I must've missed their hidden meaning in their claims. :|

[QUOTE="CPM_basic"]You should really try Super Mario Galaxy. It renewed my interest in Wii. It's simply an amazing game. It's like Mario 64 on Crack with traces of classic mario games mixed together to make a very trippy fun gaming experience.falconclan

Why would you play them? Certainly not because they're the second best game of all time, or (with the exception of Assasins Creed, which is painfully repetitive) because they do anything new.

Galaxy is one of the best games ever made, and for a while it held the title of Game Of All Time.

Nintendo themselves stated that they were targeting the casual market with the Wii. :|

Well duh... don't treat me like I'm stupid. What, am I not supposed to buy a Wii? Am I not supposed to buy things I like? I fail to see your point. Yes Wii is aimed at the casual market, but it's annoying when I hear this from casual 360 gamers who think online shooters are the greates thing ever.

You just proved my point. You try to stereotype people by what console they own, when it's clear that Wii owners like myself can be much more knowledgeable than PS3/360 owners like the TC.

Where did I try to stereotype you? And where did i say that you weren't supposed to buy a Wii? Did i even say you were a casual player? No...i said that Nintendo said that they were targeting casuals with the Wii. Those are their words, not mine. If anything they're stereotyping you. You need to calm down...seriously. It's a console. I stated something Nintendo said and you get all amped up for no reason.

Nintendo themselves stated that they were targeting the casual market with the Wii. :|Puckhog04

"Targeting" and "Targeting exclusively" are very differen't things.

[QUOTE="falconclan"][QUOTE="jet052006"][QUOTE="Skunk_Mullet"]

liking hd graphics and online shooters doesn't make for a "hardcore" gamer. it just makes for a videophile who likes online shooters.

what do you classify someone like me who likes online shooters AND wii games?

--ProtoMan--

Isnt there like only 1 online shooter for the Wii?

Since you seem to know so much, what is a "TRUE" online game? I'm a stupid sheep, so enlighten me.

Stupid sheep here as well, I'd liek to know too:)

Puckhog04

Nintendo themselves stated that they were targeting the casual market with the Wii. :|

Well duh... don't treat me like I'm stupid. What, am I not supposed to buy a Wii? Am I not supposed to buy things I like? I fail to see your point. Yes Wii is aimed at the casual market, but it's annoying when I hear this from casual 360 gamers who think online shooters are the greates thing ever.

You just proved my point. You try to stereotype people by what console they own, when it's clear that Wii owners like myself can be much more knowledgeable than PS3/360 owners like the TC.

Where did I try to stereotype you? And where did i say that you weren't supposed to buy a Wii? Did i even say you were a casual player? No...i said that Nintendo said that they were targeting casuals with the Wii. Those are their words, not mine. If anything they're stereotyping you. You need to calm down...seriously. It's a console. I stated something Nintendo said and you get all amped up for no reason.

actually, nintendo said, they're targeting everyone. casual and hardcore. its one of the reasons they're so successful this gen