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#1 DarkT33
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The wii is the most expensive out of the 3 consoles if you are a hardcore gamer. Want to see how? A casual only buys one console. I think we can pretty much agree with that. And since the wii is a pure casual console atm, what with wario ware, rayman, wii sports etc, the wii is the obvious choice since its the cheapest. But for a hardcore gamer, the wii is not enough. First of all, for what you are getting, the wii is overpriced. Last gen graphics, hardware and specs that compare to the xbox 1, which could display games in 720p, but the wii can't even do that. Imagine zelda with kameo graphics :shock:, nintendo have really ripped us off there. Unacceptable. Motion sensing isn't new, so it couldn't have cost nintendo a fortune to develop the idea onto the wii, so at the end of the day, the wii is overpriced. If you get a wii, you will have to buy at least 1 extra controller, if not more. My 2nd point is that for a hardcore gamer, the wii on its own is not enough. If you had just a 360, that would be enough because you've got everything you can ask for. Great graphics, great games, superb online service, great looking titles and new IP's coming up, this is what a hardcore gamer wants. But the wii is not enough on its own. It doesn't have the sophisticated online service, the hardware, its got a casual image, which means it is attracting a lot of lazy developers and more casual games are being made for it than serious ones. I have a wii but i found i had to buy a 360 as well, so overall i've payed more than i would've done. If only nitnendo were serious about their hardcore audience. Any1 who says they are, are blind.
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The wii is the most expensive out of the 3 consoles if you are a hardcore gamer. Want to see how? A casual only buys one console. I think we can pretty much agree with that. And since the wii is a pure casual console atm, what with wario ware, rayman, wii sports etc, the wii is the obvious choice since its the cheapest. But for a hardcore gamer, the wii is not enough. First of all, for what you are getting, the wii is overpriced. Last gen graphics, hardware and specs that compare to the xbox 1, which could display games in 720p, but the wii can't even do that. Imagine zelda with kameo graphics :shock:, nintendo have really ripped us off there. Unacceptable. Motion sensing isn't new, so it couldn't have cost nintendo a fortune to develop the idea onto the wii, so at the end of the day, the wii is overpriced. If you get a wii, you will have to buy at least 1 extra controller, if not more. My 2nd point is that for a hardcore gamer, the wii on its own is not enough. If you had just a 360, that would be enough because you've got everything you can ask for. Great graphics, great games, superb online service, great looking titles and new IP's coming up, this is what a hardcore gamer wants. But the wii is not enough on its own. It doesn't have the sophisticated online service, the hardware, its got a casual image, which means it is attracting a lot of lazy developers and more casual games are being made for it than serious ones. I have a wii but i found i had to buy a 360 as well, so overall i've payed more than i would've done. If only nitnendo were serious about their hardcore audience. Any1 who says they are, are blind. DarkT33

I own a Wii and I agree with some of what you say.  But your title is 100% incorrect, and you through your own words never backed up your title.  Is the Wii overpriced for what you get technology wise?  Yes to some degree, but that is a matter of opinion.  Your title should say overpriced instead of most expensive, because any person with a low to modest IQ can see and proove that it isn't the most expensive.  The total money spent for the Wii console purchased is much lower no matter how you compare it to the 360 and PS3.  Explain yourself a little further and refute this simple clarification, and maybe you can convince me otherwise.

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[QUOTE="DarkT33"]The wii is the most expensive out of the 3 consoles if you are a hardcore gamer. Want to see how? A casual only buys one console. I think we can pretty much agree with that. And since the wii is a pure casual console atm, what with wario ware, rayman, wii sports etc, the wii is the obvious choice since its the cheapest. But for a hardcore gamer, the wii is not enough. First of all, for what you are getting, the wii is overpriced. Last gen graphics, hardware and specs that compare to the xbox 1, which could display games in 720p, but the wii can't even do that. Imagine zelda with kameo graphics :shock:, nintendo have really ripped us off there. Unacceptable. Motion sensing isn't new, so it couldn't have cost nintendo a fortune to develop the idea onto the wii, so at the end of the day, the wii is overpriced. If you get a wii, you will have to buy at least 1 extra controller, if not more. My 2nd point is that for a hardcore gamer, the wii on its own is not enough. If you had just a 360, that would be enough because you've got everything you can ask for. Great graphics, great games, superb online service, great looking titles and new IP's coming up, this is what a hardcore gamer wants. But the wii is not enough on its own. It doesn't have the sophisticated online service, the hardware, its got a casual image, which means it is attracting a lot of lazy developers and more casual games are being made for it than serious ones. I have a wii but i found i had to buy a 360 as well, so overall i've payed more than i would've done. If only nitnendo were serious about their hardcore audience. Any1 who says they are, are blind.

I have no idea what you're talking about.
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#4 SapSacPrime
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Your topic needs rephrasing, it doesn't matter how you spin it the Wii is the cheapest new console out whether its good value for money or not.
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Like i said , It's business , they can't afford to lose money. Have all the parts and advertisement fees added-up . :P
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whilst I agree it would be nice to see nintendo games like Zelda and Metroid etc with graphics comparable to those on Xbox 360, ultimately it is not NEEDED. To me, shiny graphics are amazing for about oooooh..... a month of owning the console? Ultimately I want something that plays well, if its pretty then thats just a bonus that I don't really need.
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[QUOTE="DarkT33"]The wii is the most expensive out of the 3 consoles if you are a hardcore gamer. Want to see how? A casual only buys one console. I think we can pretty much agree with that. And since the wii is a pure casual console atm, what with wario ware, rayman, wii sports etc, the wii is the obvious choice since its the cheapest. But for a hardcore gamer, the wii is not enough. First of all, for what you are getting, the wii is overpriced. Last gen graphics, hardware and specs that compare to the xbox 1, which could display games in 720p, but the wii can't even do that. Imagine zelda with kameo graphics :shock:, nintendo have really ripped us off there. Unacceptable. Motion sensing isn't new, so it couldn't have cost nintendo a fortune to develop the idea onto the wii, so at the end of the day, the wii is overpriced. If you get a wii, you will have to buy at least 1 extra controller, if not more. My 2nd point is that for a hardcore gamer, the wii on its own is not enough. If you had just a 360, that would be enough because you've got everything you can ask for. Great graphics, great games, superb online service, great looking titles and new IP's coming up, this is what a hardcore gamer wants. But the wii is not enough on its own. It doesn't have the sophisticated online service, the hardware, its got a casual image, which means it is attracting a lot of lazy developers and more casual games are being made for it than serious ones. I have a wii but i found i had to buy a 360 as well, so overall i've payed more than i would've done. If only nitnendo were serious about their hardcore audience. Any1 who says they are, are blind. gwarlito

I own a Wii and I agree with some of what you say.  But your title is 100% incorrect, and you through your own words never backed up your title.  Is the Wii overpriced for what you get technology wise?  Yes to some degree, but that is a matter of opinion.  Your title should say overpriced instead of most expensive, because any person with a low to modest IQ can see and proove that it isn't the most expensive.  The total money spent for the Wii console purchased is much lower no matter how you compare it to the 360 and PS3.  Explain yourself a little further and refute this simple clarification, and maybe you can convince me otherwise.

i agree with what he said abd am not gonna point out something as pitty as a title to show a little agression because hes right, i bought my wii with zelda and since i completed it i havent used it since

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#8 DarkT33
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Basically what i'm saying, if you buy a wii, it isn't enough, at least not if your a hardcore gamer, so you'll have to buy another console such as a 360. In the end you'll end up spending more than you have to, to play the type of games you want. If you bought a 360 on its own, it would be enough, you don't really need a wii, but if you bought a wii, you would most likely need another console , or a gaming pc, because the wii just isn't enough. You would be spending more overall. The fact that its overpriced just supports what i'm saying.
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#9 DarkT33
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i agree with what he said abd am not gonna point out something as pitty as a title to show a little agression because hes right, i bought my wii with zelda and since i completed it i havent used it sincedawso0n
Hey i think i've played you a couple of times online in gears. I remember your name, or at least something similar.
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[QUOTE="DarkT33"]Basically what i'm saying, if you buy a wii, it isn't enough, at least not if your a hardcore gamer, so you'll have to buy another console such as a 360. In the end you'll end up spending more than you have to, to play the type of games you want. If you bought a 360 on its own, it would be enough, you don't really need a wii, but if you bought a wii, you would most likely need another console , or a gaming pc, because the wii just isn't enough. You would be spending more overall. The fact that its overpriced just supports what i'm saying.

You could have a PC and a DS, as other gaming machines... and, you know, the PS2 is still viable.
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Basically what i'm saying, if you buy a wii, it isn't enough, at least not if your a hardcore gamer, so you'll have to buy another console such as a 360. In the end you'll end up spending more than you have to, to play the type of games you want. If you bought a 360 on its own, it would be enough, you don't really need a wii, but if you bought a wii, you would most likely need another console , or a gaming pc, because the wii just isn't enough. You would be spending more overall. The fact that its overpriced just supports what i'm saying. DarkT33

If I only owned a 360, I'd suffer from Zelda-withdrawl so you are wrong -- the 360 alone is not enough.

Honestly, at the moment the Wii is enough for me. It has new good games coming out, and I could play VC games too. I plan on getting a PS3 later, not because the Wii isn't enough, but because two of my favorite franchises are on the Playstations. >_>

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I agree that a Wii alone can't satisfy hardcore gamers, but it's not like hardcore gamers are usually satisfied with just one console either.

And in that case, wouldn't the Wii's lower price be beneficial to them?
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[QUOTE="DarkT33"]Basically what i'm saying, if you buy a wii, it isn't enough, at least not if your a hardcore gamer, so you'll have to buy another console such as a 360. In the end you'll end up spending more than you have to, to play the type of games you want. If you bought a 360 on its own, it would be enough, you don't really need a wii, but if you bought a wii, you would most likely need another console , or a gaming pc, because the wii just isn't enough. You would be spending more overall. The fact that its overpriced just supports what i'm saying.

Overpriced or most expensive? Nope. More than you wanted to pay to play one or two games that you wanted? That could be the case!! I am a hardcore gamer, and while I may get a 360 eventually it will only be for certain games and not specifically for the graphics. I have a PC for whatever else I want, and alot of my time has been spent playing the Wii. A hardcore games buys games for the "game", not cause it looks pretty.
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#15 Warfust
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I agree that a Wii alone can't satisfy hardcore gamers, but it's not like hardcore gamers are usually satisfied with just one console either.

And in that case, wouldn't the Wii's lower price be beneficial to them?DireToad
I think you hit the nail on the head there.
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#16 elcoholic
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I'd like to use a different constuction. I don't like 90% of wii's games (don't like party titles) but I love the metroid and Zelda series (and maybe the new RE on wii) so i'll have to pay $250 to play 4 or 5 games through its lifespan. The 360 and ps3 can probably count on 40 each through its lifespans.

So per game and per hour of amusement the wii is easily the most expensive for me since there likely won't be much to interest me save for a few titles. Same as the cube which has my favorite of last gen (RE4) but hardly anything else.

Ps, those titles would be better on powerfull consoles.

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Your wrong though.  Any hardcore gamer is already going to have plenty of gaming options.  I dont have a 360 or a PS3, although I seriously want a 360, but I don't see the point until I own a really huge nice HDTV, which means ill have to wait a few years (or five.)

I have all the last gen systems, and a Wii, a DS, a 64, NES, and a PC.  Plenty to keep me going.

At the moment, I'm bouncing all over the consoles.  Playing Guitar Hero, and Shadow of the Collosus, and Paper Mario on the 64 and trying to beat all the games in my libary. 
Just got Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones for GBA off Ebay for 5 bucks, I havnt beat any of them.

So, I have plenty to do.  And it doesn't have to be the "newest and shiniest" for me to enjoy it. 

Unless you mean something else by hardcore gamer.  My opinion anyways, a Hardcore gamer isn't going to ditch thier older systems for a new one.
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#18 KingOfJersey
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The Wee-Wee is expensive??? Whatever you smokin on must be really good you have to let me try it it is $50 cheaper than a core Xbox, $350 cheaper than a PS3 so what are you nitpicking about it is an irrelevant argument Nintendo is trying to climb back out of the hole that the gamecube created(it sold decently almost as much as an Xbox) so they have to make a profit somewhere they are not as big as Sony which means they cant afford to through away money per system such as microsoft and Sony.
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#19 Tylendal
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Simply put. $600/500 > $400 > $250. Extra costs don't count.
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#20 bezaire2005
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lol all I got from the TC was that the wii is the most expensive console because hardcore gamers have to buy another system with it......which is pretty much the stupidest thing I heard all day. 

Besides, the wii-style motion sensing has not been done one a console before.  It's not a basic looking controller that you just tilt to the right or left and get a delayed response.

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#21 flazzle
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I love how Wii is expensive at $250, yet when fanboys argue the price of PS3 or 360, they bring up inflation numbers and statistics and compare the dollar of the past to now. And if all you are enjoying is Zelda on Wii and not Wii sports, you should really give Sports another run. Its truly my favorite game. But thats just my opinion.
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No where in your rambling incoherent response did you come close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. We are all dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.

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No where in your rambling incoherent response did you come close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. We are all dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.

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HRmmmmm, this thread needs more use of intelligence....mainly more use of logic. Do that, update the topic, and then get back to me in the morning. Doing this should cure your, hopefully, temporary contraction of stupidity.
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#25 MaTT2011
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[QUOTE="michaelareb0001"]

No where in your rambling incoherent response did you come close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. We are all dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.

killerkop


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Billy Madison much? =D
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#26 John_Cornman
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Who problem is that? Nintendo is marketing to the non-gamer and casual gamer(people who play off and on and only buy a few games a year) Its been out for less than 3 months....
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Bravo!
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WOW!

Now if only you knew what you were talking about!
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I see your point, but I disagree.
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I don't get the entire "expensive" theme the thread is trying to say. Sure, for the hardcore, the Wii may not be for you. I'm a hardcore gamer but I manage to buy both the Wii and X360 because it just cost the same amount as of the PS3. I mean if Wii expensive for a hardcore gamer then what do you call PS3. You can get both Wii and X360 for a price of the PS3. That's how inexpensive Wii is; You can get both both Wii and X360 after you try to earn money for the PS3. After seeing PS3, I ain't gonna spend a my money on them. And don't forget that teh price of a Wii game is 10% less than X360 and PS3.
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#31 Boba_Fett_3710
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Anybody notice how the topic creator adds all sorts of price extensions on the Wii side but doesn't list an HDTV as an extra for the 360 or PS3.