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#1 SonicWind
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http://www.freewebs.com/wii1080p/ Someone linkify! Or better yet, post'em pictures here. Two months or three back I let my girlfriend's big brother borrow my Wii and he let me borrow his 360, sometime during that time I got myself a cheap HDTV. I got my Wii back, and I also bought the component cables for progressive scan-goodness. But on a 32 inch, it's not a very pretty sight. Seeing Twilight Princess upscaled to 1080p on someone's HDTV and it looked really good, my question is, how can I upscale it to a higher resolution? Thanks!
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http://www.freewebs.com/wii1080p/ Someone linkify! Or better yet, post'em pictures here. Two months or three back I let my girlfriend's big brother borrow my Wii and he let me borrow his 360, sometime during that time I got myself a cheap HDTV. I got my Wii back, and I also bought the component cables for progressive scan-goodness. But on a 32 inch, it's not a very pretty sight. Seeing Twilight Princess upscaled to 1080p on someone's HDTV and it looked really good, my question is, how can I upscale it to a higher resolution? Thanks!SonicWind

You need a tv that is capable of upscaling the incoming video signal.

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Upscaling the Wii's output is not going to change the core problem, which is the cheap HDTV.
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Did you modify something in the configurations??? Thats gay man, Zelda doesn't look that crisp on my HDTV! And I have Wii Compenent Cable too!!!
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http://www.freewebs.com/wii1080p/ Someone linkify! Or better yet, post'em pictures here. Two months or three back I let my girlfriend's big brother borrow my Wii and he let me borrow his 360, sometime during that time I got myself a cheap HDTV. I got my Wii back, and I also bought the component cables for progressive scan-goodness. But on a 32 inch, it's not a very pretty sight. Seeing Twilight Princess upscaled to 1080p on someone's HDTV and it looked really good, my question is, how can I upscale it to a higher resolution? Thanks!SonicWind
the textures will look bad, period. 480p textures upscaled to 1080p is enough to burn out your retinas.
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#6 SonicWind
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Hm... Yeah? I thought it was some kind of do-hickey that upscaled stuff.. I wonder if my TV can do that. I guess I should look into the booklet.
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Listen, I'm a big TP fan, but I have to say that the textures (especially in the overworld) are pretty lame in HD...period.
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It looks like the person who took those pics has a pretty sweet setup. I would like to have that TV, for starters.
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#9 SonicWind
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Upscaling the Wii's output is not going to change the core problem, which is the cheap HDTV.Iyethar
http://www.vizio.com/products/detail.aspx?pid=18 Thats the TV I got, I dont think it's all that bad I think. I got the component cables, and I know it's not suppose to look anything like 360 games, but seeing the link I posted in my original post, Zelda looks really crisp.
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Hmm, I woudn't know as I have mine hooked up to the downstairs SDTV.

On HDTV related news about you getting yourHDTVmmy HDTV finally came in stock, and so excited to pick it up this weekend!

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[QUOTE="Iyethar"]Upscaling the Wii's output is not going to change the core problem, which is the cheap HDTV.SonicWind
http://www.vizio.com/products/detail.aspx?pid=18 Thats the TV I got, I dont think it's all that bad I think. I got the component cables, and I know it's not suppose to look anything like 360 games, but seeing the link I posted in my original post, Zelda looks really crisp.

Vizios are actually really awsome TVs for their price. Im pretty sure that some of the bigger models do have the ability to upscale. (I saw people having a PS3 720p only game , at 1080p on a 37" Vizio.)

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#12 SonicWind
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It looks like the person who took those pics has a pretty sweet setup. I would like to have that TV, for starters. Aqua-Vitae
Yeah, the setup is awesome. But I'd just be happy making Wii games look so effin crisp.
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#13 SonicWind
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I love Vizios! So you're saying, the bigger the TV the option to upscale is possible? Dang.. Don't you see how awesome it looks upscaled? I just want mines upscaled to 720p. Does it do it automatically or would I have to search within the options to upscale?
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I love Vizios! So you're saying, the bigger the TV the option to upscale is possible? Dang.. Don't you see how awesome it looks upscaled? I just want mines upscaled to 720p. Does it do it automatically or would I have to search within the options to upscale? SonicWind

No thats not what Im saying. It depends on the TV. Im just saying that I saw a 37" Vizio upscaling to 1080p. Just do some research on your TV to see if it has the ability to upscale.

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#15 luzer7072
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http://gonintendo.com/?p=20438

the guy here is using a STR-DA5200ESto upscale. it looks pretty damn good.

did you read what he had to say? he explains how it's done.

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Yeah, uh...that's not true 1920x1080 output from the vid card in the Wii, you all know that, right? It's just the analog output signal upscaled (like DVD upscaling).

It's not bad or anything. Do it if you like it. Go for it :)

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[QUOTE="SonicWind"][QUOTE="Iyethar"]Upscaling the Wii's output is not going to change the core problem, which is the cheap HDTV.asdasd

http://www.vizio.com/products/detail.aspx?pid=18 Thats the TV I got, I dont think it's all that bad I think. I got the component cables, and I know it's not suppose to look anything like 360 games, but seeing the link I posted in my original post, Zelda looks really crisp.

Vizios are actually really awsome TVs for their price. Im pretty sure that some of the bigger models do have the ability to upscale. (I saw people having a PS3 720p only game , at 1080p on a 37" Vizio.)

naw there not that great, but for the price i guess they are decent tv's. anyways ALL HDTVS SCALE to the native res. so if you have a native 720p set, the 1080p films are scaled to 720p. if you tv is 1080p native, then all 720p stuff will get scaled the the native resolution of your set.

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http://www.freewebs.com/wii1080p/

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#19 ganon42
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Yeah, uh...that's not true 1920x1080 output from the vid card in the Wii, you all know that, right? It's just the analog output signal upscaled (like DVD upscaling).

It's not bad or anything. Do it if you like it. Go for it :)

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True that.

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I have a 50-60 something inch HD.

I just started using my Wii on it.

It really makes games like zelda and RE4 come to life. Its awesome.

Also, playing metal slug on a huge TV is fun in a weird way.

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Upscaling 480p to 1080p is a criminal act. A 480p signal only contains enough pixels for about 15% of a 1080p screen, which means 85% have to interpolated.
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Upscaling 480p to 1080p is a criminal act. A 480p signal only contains enough pixels for about 15% of a 1080p screen, which means 85% have to interpolated. Teufelhuhn

Have you ever, like, actually seen it?

Trust me. You won't go blind.

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[QUOTE="Iyethar"]Upscaling the Wii's output is not going to change the core problem, which is the cheap HDTV.SonicWind
http://www.vizio.com/products/detail.aspx?pid=18 Thats the TV I got, I dont think it's all that bad I think. I got the component cables, and I know it's not suppose to look anything like 360 games, but seeing the link I posted in my original post, Zelda looks really crisp.

The scaler he's using costs twice as much as your TV. You may as well just buy a better TV that has a better internal scaler.

The best advice I can offer you is to turn noise reduction algorithms OFF and to adjust your sharpness control. Turn it all the way to the softest setting - any sharpness setting above '0' is probably running edge-enhancement algorithms that create additional jaggies.

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#24 furtherfan
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the great thing about upscaling, is that it makes the edges a little smoother, so that you'll have less jaggies.
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#25 DarkBunnie
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With Sony and Nintendo working together to provide 1080p for the Wii, there is no need to buy an XBox 360. :D
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Upscaling sucks and doesn't really make any difference. The picture just looks blurrier.
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#27 Runningflame570
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With Sony and Nintendo working together to provide 1080p for the Wii, there is no need to buy an XBox 360. :DDarkBunnie

Wait a second...thats right, thats a SONY TV...BLASPHEMY!

Errr, anyways. You can upscale the Wii's output if you want, but theres little advantage to it. Pretty much what you are getting at that point is less aliasing at the expense of texture clarity.

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It looks good in 480p, but those blurry textures can't look so great when magnaified even more.
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Theres a huge difference between the number of pixels in 480p compared to 1080p. Not to mention the Wii doesn't have a scaler so you'd need some seperate uber device to do so.
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#30 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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Okay. First of all, I have a WIi and play it on a crappy TV. Second, I have defended HD gaming many times as well as shot down people who make posts about how they can't see the difference. But I have to say, I went to that link and despite having some sharper colour it looks almost exactly the same as what I see on my crappy TV.

Sorry. This is probably the first time ever that I'm not impressed by 1080p.

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http://www.freewebs.com/wii1080p/ Someone linkify! Or better yet, post'em pictures here. Two months or three back I let my girlfriend's big brother borrow my Wii and he let me borrow his 360, sometime during that time I got myself a cheap HDTV. I got my Wii back, and I also bought the component cables for progressive scan-goodness. But on a 32 inch, it's not a very pretty sight. Seeing Twilight Princess upscaled to 1080p on someone's HDTV and it looked really good, my question is, how can I upscale it to a higher resolution? Thanks!SonicWind

FACT: The Wii does not support 1080p.

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funny how that wii is hooked up to a bunch of sony hardwares. :D
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Sony HDTVs are of the best, what are you guys talking about?
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Cool.My TV is 1080i so I'll have to get a hold of those darn composite cables.The way it looks now is horrible.
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old news and you need sony equipment to do it...funny
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old news and you need sony equipment to do it...funnyHeil68
Owned.No you don't.You can use Dscaler to upscale video by plugging your PC into your TV. http://deinterlace.sourceforge.net/
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You don't need Sony equipment...
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You don't need Sony equipment...NamanOWNSyou

Yup.

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#40 Chau_
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Wii does not look good on LCD's looks great on Projo HD's and Plasmas.. but LCD NO
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#41 ssbfalco
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Upscaling 480p to 1080p is a criminal act. A 480p signal only contains enough pixels for about 15% of a 1080p screen, which means 85% have to interpolated. Teufelhuhn

Believe it or not it's not as bad as it sounds... Let's just say with the proper filter, running a GBA game at 1024x768 with the hq2x filter looks quite nice... I'm pretty sure it could be the same with Wii or PS2 upscaling...

In fact, I did see an upscalled PS2 game on a PS3. The difference was quite nice...

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I wish my TV had a better upscaler :(
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LOL I've been experiencing this for quite a while now. My Samsung 61" 1080p DLP upscales beautifully (even better than that Sony TV pic) and it makes Wii games look far, far better than those horrid screens. Hell, the upscaler in my TV makes DVDs almost look like HD-DVD or Blu-ray. Then again, the DVD player is connected into the HDMI port (HDMI allows for the best video and sound quality possible from the source on the DVD, so if it's a 1080p source on a 480p DVD, it'll display in its original source. pretty ****ing awesome) so that's agiven. Still, it is quite amazing what a nice TV will do these days...
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so if it's a 1080p source on a 480p DVD, it'll display in its original source. pretty ****ing awesome) so that's agiven. Still, it is quite amazing what a nice TV will do these days...a_ratchet_fan

Uh... 1080p source on a 480p DVD?

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[QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"] so if it's a 1080p source on a 480p DVD, it'll display in its original source. pretty ****ing awesome) so that's agiven. Still, it is quite amazing what a nice TV will do these days...ssbfalco

Uh... 1080p source on a 480p DVD?

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[QUOTE="SonicWind"]http://www.freewebs.com/wii1080p/ Someone linkify! Or better yet, post'em pictures here. Two months or three back I let my girlfriend's big brother borrow my Wii and he let me borrow his 360, sometime during that time I got myself a cheap HDTV. I got my Wii back, and I also bought the component cables for progressive scan-goodness. But on a 32 inch, it's not a very pretty sight. Seeing Twilight Princess upscaled to 1080p on someone's HDTV and it looked really good, my question is, how can I upscale it to a higher resolution? Thanks!Danthegamingman
the textures will look bad, period. 480p textures upscaled to 1080p is enough to burn out your retinas.

Yeah, cause everyone with a Commadore 64 now has glass eyes from where they played it. Corey tested, fanboy detected.
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#47 tman93
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I have a 50-60 something inch HD.

I just started using my Wii on it.

It really makes games like zelda and RE4 come to life. Its awesome.

Also, playing metal slug on a huge TV is fun in a weird way.

mushroomscout89
You have to be kidding me, dont lie. I have a 60 inch tv and it looks at least 5x worse than my old SDTV.
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#48 ni6htmare01
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To upscale stuff for your HDTV isnt cheap at all if you talk about more than upscale a DVD.

you can purchuse an Upscaler which can cost you over a thousand dollar to a nice job, a cheaper way is to get one of those Yamaha 7.1 Home theather which can cost about $700-900 but is not as good. Here are some links for you :D :D

http://inetdistributors.pinnaclecart.com/index.php?p=product&id=50&parent=0

http://electronics.pricegrabber.com/home-audio-receivers/m/13994088/

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[QUOTE="mushroomscout89"]

I have a 50-60 something inch HD.

I just started using my Wii on it.

It really makes games like zelda and RE4 come to life. Its awesome.

Also, playing metal slug on a huge TV is fun in a weird way.

tman93

You have to be kidding me, dont lie. I have a 60 inch tv and it looks at least 5x worse than my old SDTV.

Metroid Prime looks better on my 46" than it ever did on any other tv ever before.

RE4 Wii looks slightly worse, but still very... adequate.

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#50 nintendofreak_2
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You need some 1.5k piece of equipment to make it 1080p. It may not be 1.5k but it sure is expensive.