Wii owns XBox 360 and PS3 in terms of console sales

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#1 wiialltheway
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*Alert*: This post is only for people who's interested in finding out what the console sales is like when you compare their numbers. This post is for those who don't mind to read. This post is NOT for those who always say they don't care about sales.

Wii owns both XBox 360 and PS3 in terms of console sales, it's almost to the point where it's not even debatable.

First, let me start off by saying unlike many people here who tell you nothing but fanobyish opinions and treat them as some kind of truth, I would like to explain the statement that I made with some proof. What I am going to say probably won't be 100% accurate, but feel free to correct me if you think I am being way off or too far from the truth.

For months, especially since Wii and PS3 launched, I tried to follow all the console sales related news, expecially with NPD and Japan's Media Create. I like to observe actual numbers instead of listening to fanboys argue all the time. I came to the conclusion that VGcharts, although definitely not 100% accurate (nobody can be 100% correct anyway), provides us a good general understanding of how well a console is selling, and very useful for comparison purpose.

For one, VGcharts provide actual numbers that we can follow, they provide many things in detail. If you compare their detailed numbers with some official numbers and news reports, you can tell they are pretty close and most of the time, those numbers seem to be reasonable and logical when all things being considered.

I just want to point out one particular thing, way back in January, when nobody was too sure about how many units of Wii have been sold worldwide in 2006, during the first or second week of January, VGcharts has Wii at 3.19 million units sold. Then about two weeks later, Nintendo officially announced that by the end of December 2006, they have shipped/sold 3.19 million Wii's worldwide. I don't know how in the world VGcharts came up with that number, but it turned out to be ridiculously accurate at that time. Another thing, when people were all saying they don't think PS3 has cracked one million yet at the end of December 2006, VGcharts had PS3 at more than one million sold. Again, VGcharts turned out to be fairly accurate with their estimation, because if you add up what PS3 have sold in Japan by the end of 2006 and what NPD reported for Nov/Dec 2006, PS3 was indeed over one million sold.

Nextgenwars is another console sales site, but I don't see them providing anything in detail, it's pretty much just a site that show you 3 numbers and that's all.

For those of you who don't think VGcharts give good estimations, please at least do a little research first instead of asking silly questions that prove you have very little idea of what's going on. If you think you have a legitimate case against VGcharts, we can discuss further.

As for NPD numbers, there's a common misconception. As far as I know, although NPD only tracks 60~70% of all stores in the US, which means they don't track them all, when NPD reports monthly consoles sales numbers, they do however, give a pretty reasonable, often times good estimation, to the stores that they didn't track. They probably give estimation based on surveys, research, observations, etc, for the stores they didn't track. I believe NPD, same as Japan'a Media Create, prefers to play it safe, more often than not, they rather underestimate a bit instead of overestimate, understandably so. I believe most of the time, NPD and Media Create numbers can be a little bit less than actual sales, but they are still fairly accurate.

As it stands (here I am using numbers provided by VGcharts), XBox 360 is currently at 8.76 million sold worldwide, Wii is at 4.24 million sold worldwide. In other words, Wii is almost at 50% of total XBox 360 sold so far.

In both US and Japan, we get detailed monthly/weekly sales numbers, Europe is the place where it's hard to get accurate numbers on a monthly basis, that's where VGcharts can be questioned. If we only compare numbers from NPD and Media Create (US & Japan), XBox is around 4.7 million sold, while Wii is at 2.6 million sold, that means if you only look at US and Japan, Wii already sold more than 50% of what XBox 360 has sold. :o

Another way to look at it, MS announced that 6 million XBox 360 were shipped worldwide by the end of September 2006. At this rate, we might be looking at 6 million Wii sold worldwide by the end of March 2007, which is totally possible. Again, another way to look at things is that XBox 360 didn't even come anywhere close to 4 million units sold back in Jan/Feb 2006.

As for PS3 sales, not much to say. Wii is selling significantly better than PS3 in the US, Wii is selling perhaps TOO MUCH better than PS3 in Japan. Then consider this, there are well enough PS3's to go around in US and Japan, which means PS3 pretty much sold as many units as possible, but still, Wii is currently beating the crap out of PS3 with plenty of supply lower than demand problem. Wii is killing the PS3 in terms of sales, no other way to look at it.

After doing all the reading, research, calculation and using logical ways to estimate, I am convinced that when January NPD numbers come out (soon), it's going to show that Wii has outsold the XBox 360 in the US (month of January 2007). Unlike most fanboys here who only talk the talk and never put the money where the mouth is, if Wii didn't outsell XBox 360 in the US this past month, I will be owned and I will put something stupid in my sig, you can quote me, I don't care.

Future prediction: By the end of October 2007, I expect the worldwide Wii console sales to be trailing XBox 360 total console sales by just a little bit. By that time, I expect XBox 360 to be somewhere around 12 to 15 million sold, while the Wii is at around 11 to 14 million sold, or maybe even more.

By the end of March 2007 (soon), I expect Wii at 5.5 ~ 6.0 million sold, or maybe even more. Expect XBox 360 at 9.3 ~ 9.8 million sold.

No comment for PS3 in 2007, all I can say is that if PS3 doesn't get a price drop soon, overall it's going to do really really bad in 2007.

Quote me on my prediction if you want, any of you can consider me being owned if my prediction became way off in the future, I will admit ownage (if VGcharts has their numbers very different from mine or if official announcement/news from companies prove me wrong, which means I am most likely wrong).

P.S. shipped is not sold, only sold to customers is sold, keep that in mind. If anobody strongly disagrees with VGcharts numbers or maybe even NPD or Media Create numbers, please at least provide some evidence or good estimation to disprove it, logical discussion welcomed.

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*rumble* The ground... *rumble* ...thundering like... *quake* ...a stampede... *violent shaking* COWS!!!! Seriously, no one is going to take your long (and nicely worded ;)) text wall as fact. If it dissents, it's a lie. If it concers, it is truth. If it doesn't make any sense, it is a lie.
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#3 black_chewbacca
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No one really cares. WOW I never knew console sales reflected on the quality of the system. 
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No one really cares. WOW I never knew console sales reflected on the quality of the system. black_chewbacca
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#5 MrPostman4Chi
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Man you care so much about the Wii sales,is nintendo gonna give you half of what they make off the Wii's.That would be the only reason why i would care.
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#6 lzorro
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I think you might have gone a bit overboard ;)
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#7 blackace
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What!?!? i didn't read all that crap. In any case, the Wii is selling very well, but sales will slow down come summer. The bad thing about the Wii right now is there are only 2-3 games worth playing it. The Wii still doesn't have the 3rd party support that the PS3 and XBox360 has. Even Nintendo's president thinks the sales numbers will drop unless they crank out a lot of exclusive titles for the Wii. Once M$ drops the price of the Xbox360 $50-$100 things will change quickly.
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#8 coreygames
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What!?!? i didn't read all that crap. In any case, the Wii is selling very well, but sales will slow down come summer. The bad thing about the Wii right now is there are only 2-3 games worth playing it. The Wii still doesn't have the 3rd party support that the PS3 and XBox360 has. Even Nintendo's president thinks the sales numbers will drop unless they crank out a lot of exclusive titles for the Wii. Once M$ drops the price of the Xbox360 $50-$100 things will change quickly. blackace
There are a couple things wrong with this. First -- people said the same thing about the holiday season, then directly after the holiday season, now the sales will dip in summer? Second -- The Wii has 2-3 games, but the PS3 has only 1 meh game. Which puts the Wii at a much greater value right now. Third -- Of coarse there is going to be a spike when a price drops, but I don't think that it will grossly affect the final outcome of this gen. if there is a drop in 07.
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#9 wiialltheway
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Man you care so much about the Wii sales,is nintendo gonna give you half of what they make off the Wii's.That would be the only reason why i would care.MrPostman4Chi

I WISH I can get some money from someone whenever I make a post, but too bad I don't. :(

I admit it took me almost an hour to write all that wall of text, but I think it's better than spending half hour reading 20 useless threads of flamebait, which unfortunately, sometimes I do :(

Another purpose for all the stuff I wrote is that if I ran into an argument with someone about sales, I can perhaps refer to this thread, instead of explaining things over and over again. That's all.

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#10 wiialltheway
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It turns out that I am not owned by my own prediction. Wii indeed outsold XBox 360 in January in the US, and I do remember quite a few lemmings here believe that XBox 360 outsold Wii in January.

My original prediction still stands, but here's a revision according to recent news and positive outcome of strong Wii sales.

I originally said by October this year, Wii will only trail XBox 360 by 1 to 2 million units worldwide, my revised prediction is that Wii will "surpass" Xbox 360 in worldwide sales by October the latest, I believe it should happen before October.

The new Brain Age game for the Wii is confirmed to be coming out in Japan during April, while Super Paper Mario is also confirmed to have an April release. Dragon Quest Swords supposedly has a release date of Spring 2007, so it's very possible that game will be released sometime during April/May in Japan. I can see Wii continues to sell a good 50,000 to 60,000 units each week for the next few weeks in Japan, then Wii sales will explode when Brain Age comes out.

I expect Brain Age to be released in US and Europe about two months later than Japan. By that time, I can see Wii sales starts to pick up a lot of momentum. I also believe that SSBB will be released before October.

After carefully considering all the possible scenarios for each system, my conclusion is that Wii will surpass XBox 360 worldwide sales by October the latest.

Taking any sig bet on my new prediction, if you are against it :wink:

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We'll see about how it works out. Reminds me a lot of the PS vs N64 initial sales, where the N64 burst out the gate dominated the PS's monthly sales...
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#13 wiialltheway
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Hahaha. I read it all. You're too dedicated. Not that I disagree. I see a high likelihood of the Wii outselling the 360 (total vs. total) this year. What it really depends on is what the actual Wii demand is, and whether (when?) MS cuts the price of their console.Jandurin

I think it's pretty fun, besides we can all learn a thing or two when observing something, whether it's video game industry, movie industry, or whatever :wink:

I don't think MS is going to cut the price anytime soon. They lowered their shipment expectation to 12 million by June, if they plan to announce price cut before June, I don't think they would have lowered their forecast. I also don't think it's going to be during July or August, price cut won't happen until September the earliest, I think.

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#14 _LiquidFlame_
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the wii is a system that sells well
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The Dreamcast also had good initial sales. 360 is gaining sales from last year and will continue to gain sales. What proof do we have the Wii will do that?
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Hahaha. I read it all. You're too dedicated. Not that I disagree. I see a high likelihood of the Wii outselling the 360 (total vs. total) this year. What it really depends on is what the actual Wii demand is, and whether (when?) MS cuts the price of their console.wiialltheway

I think it's pretty fun, besides we can all learn a thing or two when observing something, whether it's video game industry, movie industry, or whatever :wink:

I don't think MS is going to cut the price anytime soon. They lowered their shipment expectation to 12 million by June, if they plan to announce price cut before June, I don't think they would have lowered their forecast. I also don't think it's going to be during July or August, price cut won't happen until September the earliest, I think.

I'm thinking if this new version of the 360 turns out to be true and is released in the middle of the year, then the premium price will be dropped.

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#17 tidus222
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ps3 and xbox360 are still the superior consoles with the superior games.

while your playing kiddy games like warioware on the WII

ill be playing FF13, MGS4, DMC4, killzone 2, GT5, halo 3, ninja gaiden 2, mass effect, star wars KOTOR 3 etc..... on my superior consoles.

any real gamer knows xbox360, and ps3 are the consoles to own

and WII is for casuals who are too poor to afford the good consoles.

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#18 wiialltheway
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ps3 and xbox360 are still the superior consoles with the superior games.

while your playing kiddy games like warioware on the WII

ill be playing FF13, MGS4, DMC4, killzone 2, GT5, halo 3, ninja gaiden 2, mass effect, star wars KOTOR 3 etc..... on my superior consoles.

any real gamer knows xbox360, and ps3 are the consoles to own

and WII is for casuals who are too poor to afford the good consoles.

tidus222

Thanks for your opinion, although I disagree, especially about the real gamer part and how you called Wii is for casuals who are poor. But if you feel your opinion is better than mine, that's fine.

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#19 wiialltheway
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The Dreamcast also had good initial sales. 360 is gaining sales from last year and will continue to gain sales. What proof do we have the Wii will do that? rexoverbey

That's why it's called prediction, you are welcomed to bet with me, we can have a sig bet, I said Wii will surpass XBox 360 in worldwide sales by the end of October this year, the latest.

My reason for Wii's dominance is very simple, Nintendo Wii is going to have too many attractive games for non gamers and casuals and female gamers, it's not even funny. Brain Age with multi-player? Wii Health Pack? Wii Music? Besides all the great traditional Nintendo first party games, which looks stronger than ever, those new "different" games will put Nintendo over the top.

Look no further than Wii Sports, I heard a lot of fanboys saying all Wii got at this point is Zelda, but they failed to see Wii Sports is by far, the most attractive Wii game to non-gamers, casuals, even females and mainstream media. So far, I don't see any new or different type of games from MS or Sony that's going to attract people who usually don't play games, or have very little interest in video games. As a matter of fact, I don't see any XBox 360 or PS3 games being talked on TV nearly as much as Wii Sports.

We are not talking about personal gaming preference here, I know for some people, XBox 360 or PS3 is the better choice. But since we are talking about console sales, I think Wii is going to win hands down.

Most of the stuff I said are my own opinion, not facts, anybody can disagree with me, still, if you feel what I said is not going to happen, please explain a little, perhaps I can learn something new.

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#20 KingOfJersey
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Well I would dispute that because 360 has them both beat in sales, the wii's rate of sales is higher though but the 360 has sold more consoles so as far as consoles sold Wii is about half-way up the ladder while the 360 reigns at the top right now.
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#21 Dabighit89
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you said it yourself..numbers dont lie..therefore the 360 has sold more than the wii end of story
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#22 wiialltheway
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you said it yourself..numbers dont lie..therefore the 360 has sold more than the wii end of storyDabighit89

My point is that Wii is currently selling at a much faster rate compared to how Xbox 360 was selling during its first few months after launch. Wii is also selling much faster worldwide, at the moment.

Sure, XBox 360 is leading right now, on the market for 15 months, Wii launched just a bit over 3 months ago, I am sure there's no excuse why Wii is trailing XBox 360 in total sales right now............. :( Hey, I hope by October, you can still tell people how XBox 360 sold more than Wii with full year head start, because I think by that time, Wii will take the lead :wink: