Wii - The King of Diversity

The Wii - It has taken a while, but the Wii is getting a lot of good games coming up! It sometimes takes years to build up a well diversified library of games, but the Wii is different. In the 360's first year, it had a good line-up, but nothing this diverse. Take A Look Below!

Virtual Console

Look at all 151 Virtual Console games!!

False the DS is more diverse.

if thats what you call it :lol: JPOBS

He lists a bunch of quality games and that's your response? I don't know about you, but not everyone likes to play shooters.

Thats not exactly Diverse really.

Whats that Ninja VC game? And why does it have near Identical UI to Super Castlevania IV? (Best Castlevania imo ..)

False the DS is more diverse.Gunraidan

that is true...

but even against the DS, the Wii's first year of life is A LOT more diverse than the DS's first year.

Thats not exactly Diverse really.

Whats that Ninja VC game? And why does it have near Identical UI to Super Castlevania IV? (Best Castlevania imo ..)

Meu2k7

That's the original Ninja Gaiden.

False the DS is more diverse.

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]if thats what you call it :lol: Gunraidan

He lists a bunch of quality games and that's your response? I don't know about you, but not everyone likes to play shooters.

Halo 3
Assassins creed
Forza 2
Madden 08
Uno
Geometry wars
Mass effect
Too Human
Banjo 3
DOA.

see what i did there?

Thats not exactly Diverse really.

Whats that Ninja VC game? And why does it have near Identical UI to Super Castlevania IV? (Best Castlevania imo ..)

Meu2k7

Ninja Gaiden

and yes, it is diverse. Every single game listed is a different Genre (cept the VC games).

Thats not exactly Diverse really.

Whats that Ninja VC game? And why does it have near Identical UI to Super Castlevania IV? (Best Castlevania imo ..)

Meu2k7

It's the original Ninja Gaiden for nes.

Well-presented post. I support your statement, but I wouldn't call it the ultimate diversity machine. I bet that a lot of people are going to come in questioning the quality of some of those gaes. And there will be at least one bad graphics statement.WeAreToast

Too late, we already had the biggest lemming around do both of those. (You know who you are, lemming!)

I'm not even gonna look at all those jaggie infested Gamecube-like screens, I'm just gonna clean out say that you're exactly right..in a sense. It has the most diverse crap out there. You have your puzzle crap, you have your shooter crap, you have your platformer crap, you have your mini-game crap, you have your racing crap, you have your fighting crap, you have your sports crap...just a lot of casual crap that comes in many different shapes and forms.

Meanwhile if you want quality in your diversity, go for the 360. Racers, shooters, RPG's, sports, puzzle, arcade, pretty much anything you can think of, it's on the 360, and it's better than it is on any other console.
V_Isle

Not all of the games he listed are crap/going to be crap. Since when was Resident Evil casual?

[QUOTE="Gunraidan"]

False the DS is more diverse.

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]if thats what you call it :lol: JPOBS

He lists a bunch of quality games and that's your response? I don't know about you, but not everyone likes to play shooters.

Halo 3
Assassins creed
Forza 2
Madden 08
Uno
Geometry wars
Mass effect
Too Human
Banjo 3
DOA.

see what i did there?

you have your usuals, and 2 games way off in the future (Too Human and Banjo 3). But I listed a diving sim, a surgery sim, a Stratagy RPG, an RTS, an FPA, a light gun game, and an Adventure title.

See what I did there? :|

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Thats not exactly Diverse really.

Whats that Ninja VC game? And why does it have near Identical UI to Super Castlevania IV? (Best Castlevania imo ..)

Sparky04

That's the original Ninja Gaiden.

I see, but whats with the Identical UI ... didnt plagerism exist back thne? :P or same developers?

[QUOTE="V_Isle"]I'm not even gonna look at all those jaggie infested Gamecube-like screens, I'm just gonna clean out say that you're exactly right..in a sense. It has the most diverse crap out there. You have your puzzle crap, you have your shooter crap, you have your platformer crap, you have your mini-game crap, you have your racing crap, you have your fighting crap, you have your sports crap...just a lot of casual crap that comes in many different shapes and forms.

Meanwhile if you want quality in your diversity, go for the 360. Racers, shooters, RPG's, sports, puzzle, arcade, pretty much anything you can think of, it's on the 360, and it's better than it is on any other console.
WeAreToast

Not all of the games he listed are crap/going to be crap. Since when was Resident Evil casual?

Actually every game he listed was good(with the possible exception of Forever Blue). People on these forums just don't take the Wii seriously because when you compare Wii screenshots with another console it's inferior. They refuse to accept the fact that there is more to a game then graphics.

I'm not even gonna look at all those jaggie infested Gamecube-like screens, I'm just gonna clean out say that you're exactly right..in a sense. It has the most diverse crap out there. You have your puzzle crap, you have your shooter crap, you have your platformer crap, you have your mini-game crap, you have your racing crap, you have your fighting crap, you have your sports crap...just a lot of casual crap that comes in many different shapes and forms.

Meanwhile if you want quality in your diversity, go for the 360. Racers, shooters, RPG's, sports, puzzle, arcade, pretty much anything you can think of, it's on the 360, and it's better than it is on any other console.
V_Isle

Boy, there isn't any fanboy logic in that post at all. ._.

Yep, we all know how crappy Mario Platformers are...

see what i did there?

JPOBS

[QUOTE="Sparky04"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Thats not exactly Diverse really.

Whats that Ninja VC game? And why does it have near Identical UI to Super Castlevania IV? (Best Castlevania imo ..)

Meu2k7

That's the original Ninja Gaiden.

I see, but whats with the Identical UI ... didnt plagerism exist back thne? :P or same developers?

Every beat em up in that era had identical gui's.

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]

see what i did there?

Gunraidan

Yeah you compared a system that's been out for two years to one that's been out to one, and listed less quality games on it and many being multiplatform, which pretty much implies that the Wii wins in gaming diversity...so.....

thats a good point... exclusives. Some of Wii's most unique titles are exclusive, like the upcoming King Story!

Actually every game he listed was good(with the possible exception of Forever Blue). People on these forums just don't take the Wii seriously because when you compare Wii screenshots with another console it's inferior. They refuse to accept the fact that there is more to a game then graphics.

iunderstand

There's a difference between gaming for long hours and gaming with a brain.

Most people on these forums could care less with how good an actual game is.

This is why most people don't know nor care that Oblivion and Rainbow Six were dumbed down, don't care they are getting ripped off by paying for XBL, hyping casual JRPG's such as Losy Odyessy and Final Fantasy.

How many times do you someone talk about level design? How many people do you see on here actually know that A.I. is more so up to the developer then system power (look at UT2004)? How many people on here do you see talk about how skillful a game is? How many people on here do you see looking for the next big small developer?

No you see them argue about the stupidest things ever. Who cares about how good a games graphics are? Who cares how many characters are on a screen? No seriously does this somehow makes the combat system better? Who cares how "impressive" a games physics are? Hardly any games use physics. How big a level is? I'd much rather have the developer polish and perfect the games level design then just making one mindlessly large area for me to walk around in. How many people can play online at once? How's that gonna matter if the games not fun? How "innovative" a game is, just because it does something new doesn't mean it's good, it could actually suck.

And the saddest thing is that the gaming sites are no better. The fact that any game with a gun in it, decent sport game, or anything appealing outscores games with depth like Red Orchestra and Guilty Gear is blatantly ridiculous.

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]

see what i did there?

Gunraidan

Yeah you compared a system that's been out for two years to one that's been out to one, and listed less quality games on it and many being multiplatform, which pretty much implies that the Wii wins in gaming diversity...so.....

oh, and exclusivity has no beairng in a diversity debate. :|

[QUOTE="iunderstand"]

Actually every game he listed was good(with the possible exception of Forever Blue). People on these forums just don't take the Wii seriously because when you compare Wii screenshots with another console it's inferior. They refuse to accept the fact that there is more to a game then graphics.

Gunraidan

There's a difference between gaming for long hours and gaming with a brain.

Most people on these forums could care less with how good an actual game is.

This is why most people don't know nor care that Oblivion and Rainbow Six were dumbed down, don't care they are getting ripped off by paying for XBL, hyping casual JRPG's such as Losy Odyessy and Final Fantasy.

How many times do you someone talk about level design? How many people do you see on here actually know that A.I. is more so up to the developer then system power (look at UT2004)? How many people on here do you see talk about how skillful a game is? How many people on here do you see looking for the next big small developer?

And the saddest thing is that the gaming sites are no better. The fact that any game with a gun in it, decent sport game, or anything appealing outscores games with depth like Red Orchestra and Guilty Gear is blatantly ridiculous.

[QUOTE="Gunraidan"][QUOTE="iunderstand"]

Actually every game he listed was good(with the possible exception of Forever Blue). People on these forums just don't take the Wii seriously because when you compare Wii screenshots with another console it's inferior. They refuse to accept the fact that there is more to a game then graphics.

JPOBS

There's a difference between gaming for long hours and gaming with a brain.

Most people on these forums could care less with how good an actual game is.

This is why most people don't know nor care that Oblivion and Rainbow Six were dumbed down, don't care they are getting ripped off by paying for XBL, hyping casual JRPG's such as Losy Odyessy and Final Fantasy.

How many times do you someone talk about level design? How many people do you see on here actually know that A.I. is more so up to the developer then system power (look at UT2004)? How many people on here do you see talk about how skillful a game is? How many people on here do you see looking for the next big small developer?

And the saddest thing is that the gaming sites are no better. The fact that any game with a gun in it, decent sport game, or anything appealing outscores games with depth like Red Orchestra and Guilty Gear is blatantly ridiculous.

Stop judging games that you know nothing about just because they have "teh jaggers"

There's a difference between gaming for long hours and gaming with a brain.

Most people on these forums could care less with how good an actual game is.

This is why most people don't know nor care that Oblivion and Rainbow Six were dumbed down, don't care they are getting ripped off by paying for XBL, hyping casual JRPG's such as Losy Odyessy and Final Fantasy.

How many times do you someone talk about level design? How many people do you see on here actually know that A.I. is more so up to the developer then system power (look at UT2004)? How many people on here do you see talk about how skillful a game is? How many people on here do you see looking for the next big small developer?

And the saddest thing is that the gaming sites are no better. The fact that any game with a gun in it, decent sport game, or anything appealing outscores games with depth like Red Orchestra and Guilty Gear is blatantly ridiculous.

Gunraidan

strong opinions, but you are correct. Interesting... but where did this come from? 0_o

But... to tie this in to the Wii's Diversity (sorry, had to) -

Prepare for more titles on the Wii (to add diversity) come 2008 with the WiiWare Channel -

Small developers get their chance for fame - Vicarious Visions CEO Karthik Bala has opened up with some info on just how receptive Nintendo is being with the channel. According to Bala, getting a game on the WiiWare channel is a lot easier than going for Xbox Live Arcade. Nintendo is even going out of there way to spread dev kits out there for indie teams.

Link

Lets hope some good comes out of this!

please, lets not get into this ok :roll:

oh, and exclusivity has no beairng in a diversity debate. :|

JPOBS

You listed Uno.:|

And exclusivity is huge in diversity since excluisives ARE the game's that you buy the system for.

wtf is your point?
JPOBS

I wasn't referring to you so WTF is the point of responding?

[QUOTE="Gunraidan"][QUOTE="iunderstand"]

Actually every game he listed was good(with the possible exception of Forever Blue). People on these forums just don't take the Wii seriously because when you compare Wii screenshots with another console it's inferior. They refuse to accept the fact that there is more to a game then graphics.

JPOBS

There's a difference between gaming for long hours and gaming with a brain.

Most people on these forums could care less with how good an actual game is.

This is why most people don't know nor care that Oblivion and Rainbow Six were dumbed down, don't care they are getting ripped off by paying for XBL, hyping casual JRPG's such as Losy Odyessy and Final Fantasy.

How many times do you someone talk about level design? How many people do you see on here actually know that A.I. is more so up to the developer then system power (look at UT2004)? How many people on here do you see talk about how skillful a game is? How many people on here do you see looking for the next big small developer?

And the saddest thing is that the gaming sites are no better. The fact that any game with a gun in it, decent sport game, or anything appealing outscores games with depth like Red Orchestra and Guilty Gear is blatantly ridiculous.

His point is that the mainstream games are largely overshadowing underrated, apparently better games. He also says that even gaming sites do that.

[QUOTE="Gunraidan"]False the DS is more diverse.kansasdude2009

that is true...

but even against the DS, the Wii's first year of life is A LOT more diverse than the DS's first year.

strong opinions, but you are correct. Interesting... but where did this come from? 0_o

But... to tie this in to the Wii's Diversity (sorry, had to) -

Prepare for more titles on the Wii (to add diversity) come 2008 with the WiiWare Channel -

Small developers get their chance for fame - Vicarious Visions CEO Karthik Bala has opened up with some info on just how receptive Nintendo is being with the channel. According to Bala, getting a game on the WiiWare channel is a lot easier than going for Xbox Live Arcade. Nintendo is even going out of there way to spread dev kits out there for indie teams.

Link

Lets hope some good comes out of this!

kansasdude2009

iunderstand made a comment of why people don't take the Wii seriously, however I just added more points and explanations to his statement.

His point is that the mainstream games are largely overshadowing underrated, apparently better games. He also says that even gaming sites do that.

WeAreToast

Kinda....there's more too it, but I don't feel like explaining. :P

[QUOTE="kansasdude2009"]

[QUOTE="Gunraidan"]False the DS is more diverse.Shinobishyguy

that is true...

but even against the DS, the Wii's first year of life is A LOT more diverse than the DS's first year.

well... that and Phoenix Wright

Even then... the Wii is getting Harvey Birdman! :D

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]

please, lets not get into this ok :roll:

oh, and exclusivity has no beairng in a diversity debate. :|

Gunraidan

You listed Uno.:|

And exclusivity is huge in diversity since excluisives ARE the game's that you buy the system for.

wtf is your point?
JPOBS

I wasn't referring to you so WTF is the point of responding?

No, exclusivity is not important in diversity. if there a 20 games in different genres all multiplats on one console, and 20 games of the same genre all exclusive on another, which console is more "diverse" :|

I responded because your post seemed completely off topic. Like you just wanted to rant about your superior taste in the finer things in life or some BS like that.

i only listed uno because he listed virtual console games kid :|

No, exclusivity is not important in diversity. if there a 20 games in different genres on one console, and 20 games of the same genre on another, which console is more "diverse" :|

I responded because your post seemed completely off topic. Like you just wanted to rant about your superior taste in the finer things in life or some BS like that.

JPOBS

I listed good VC games.... :|

The answer to your question is the console with the exclusives. Why? Because they have the multiplats and their exclusives. Just like Wii has Geometry Wars on your list, the 360 has none on my list.

Listen, i'm not saying that the 360 doesnt have a diverse library, because it does. I'm just saying how impressive it is that the Wii has so much diversity in 1 year. The 360 definitely didn't have that.

It's a decent list but you shouldn't include VC games and you forgot Dragon Quest Swords.fierro316

why? and it doesn't come out till 2008 or I would have added a lot more.

only listed uno because he listed virtual console games kid :|

JPOBS

Good VC gamees.

No, exclusivity is not important in diversity. if there a 20 games in different genres all multiplats on one console, and 20 games of the same genre all exclusive on another, which console is more "diverse" :|JPOBS

What? That isn't even related to the comparison of the two systems. Most of the Wii's diverse games are exclusives while the 360's are multiplat (at least the ones you lised).

I responded because your post seemed completely off topic. Like you just wanted to rant about your superior taste in the finer things in life or some BS like that.

JPOBS

It wasn't off-topic if you actually paid attention to the person I quoted.

[QUOTE="fierro316"]It's a decent list but you shouldn't include VC games and you forgot Dragon Quest Swords.kansasdude2009

why? and it doesn't come out till 2008 or I would have added a lot more.

It's almost like adding all the PS1 and PS2 games to the existing PS3 library (via BC) and saying it demolishes everything. It's a nice collection of emulated games but nothing else.

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]

i only listed uno because he listed virtual console games kid :|

No, exclusivity is not important in diversity. if there a 20 games in different genres on one console, and 20 games of the same genre on another, which console is more "diverse" :|

I responded because your post seemed completely off topic. Like you just wanted to rant about your superior taste in the finer things in life or some BS like that.

kansasdude2009

I listed good VC games.... :|

The answer to your question is the console with the exclusives. Why? Because they have the multiplats and their exclusives. Just like Wii has Geometry Wars on your list, the 360 has none on my list.

Listen, i'm not saying that the 360 doesnt have a diverse library, because it does. I'm just saying how impressive it is that the Wii has so much diversity in 1 year. The 360 definitely didn't have that.

What? That isn't even related to the comparison of the two systems. Most of the Wii's diverse games are exclusives while the 360's are multiplat (at least the ones you lised).

Gunraidan

Nonetheless, what difference does it make if the wii's games are exclusive and the 360 ones i listed arent? How does that affect diversity at all? If they are in different genres, they make up a "diverse" range of genres, regardless on exclusivity. END.

yes it is. All im saying is that exclusivity means nothing in a debate about diversity. especially in a case where none of so so called 360 multiplats are found on the wii. (which is the console to which we are making direct comparisons).

Nonetheless, what difference does it make if the wii's games are exclusive and the 360 ones i listed arent? How does that affect diversity at all? If they are in different genres, they make up a "diverse" range of genres, regardless on exclusivity. END.

JPOBS

I'm saying it's the most diverse console, and when you compare consoles you compare their exclusives.

Who cares if they aren't also on the Wii (even though some of them are) they aren't exclusives nor contribute to how diverse a consoles line-up is. I'm talking about games that make you buy a system and makes the system different from other platforms, and in that realm multiplats are practically worthless in every sense since noone and I mean noone buys another system over another for a game they could already get or get on a system that they are already interested in getting. You're arguments hold no water along the lines that are set-up. Exclusives are what makes a system, if your going to compare line-ups at least have the games of quality, and if your going to make a comment make sure that it was at least somewhat related to you. END.