wii u and the gamecube

We all know by now that wiiu does not have GC support. But i am asking why does this matter? GC was like the least popular nintendo system ever. Why do you want it to support the cube so bad? I heard pretendos crying about how they cant play smash bros on it without the gc controller. why in the hell cant they just use the wii pad? ill tell you why cus they already made up their minds it will suck because they are not really nintendo fans.

People like to find minimal excuses to hate something.

Meanwhile, PS3 requires an update to be compatible with PS2 games, let alone PS1 games. Exact same thing but you don't here people complaining about that.

This is why I will take good care of my Gamecube, so I can still play games on it.

It matters to me since there wont be a single Wii or Wii U game I want to play. At least I could play good games from the Gamecube library that dont require garbage motion controls or tablet gimmicks.

It matters to me since there wont be a single Wii or Wii U game I want to play. At least I could play good games from the Gamecube library that dont require garbage motion controls or tablet gimmicks.

Fizzman

Why not just buy a Gamecube then?

People like to find minimal excuses to hate something.

Meanwhile, PS3 requires an update to be compatible with PS2 games, let alone PS1 games. Exact same thing but you don't here people complaining about that.

This is why I will take good care of my Gamecube, so I can still play games on it.

turtlethetaffer

People like to find minimal excuses to hate something.

Meanwhile, PS3 requires an update to be compatible with PS2 games, let alone PS1 games. Exact same thing but you don't here people complaining about that.

This is why I will take good care of my Gamecube, so I can still play games on it.

turtlethetaffer

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

People like to find minimal excuses to hate something.

Meanwhile, PS3 requires an update to be compatible with PS2 games, let alone PS1 games. Exact same thing but you don't here people complaining about that.

This is why I will take good care of my Gamecube, so I can still play games on it.

Crossel777

I watched my friend install an update that would make it so he could play PS2 games.

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

People like to find minimal excuses to hate something.

Meanwhile, PS3 requires an update to be compatible with PS2 games, let alone PS1 games. Exact same thing but you don't here people complaining about that.

This is why I will take good care of my Gamecube, so I can still play games on it.

SakusEnvoy

...you're missing my point? People are bashing WiiU because it doesn't have backwards compatibility TWO GENERATIONS BACK but meanwhile current gen systems don't even have BC of one generation without an update.

Gamecube got way too much flak... It had some long droubts back when the system was still alive, but now that everything is said and done, the Gamecube has quite a long list of exceptional titles. I can see people wanting to be able to playsome of the best gameslike Metroid Prime, Eternal Darkness, Pikmin, Pikmin 2, Paper Mario 2, and Wind Waker because they never bought a gamecube or Wii.

I have never finished some PS2 games because the PS3 isn't backwards compatible. It's too much trouble to switch my set up so I end up just playing current gen games.

[QUOTE="Crossel777"]

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

People like to find minimal excuses to hate something.

Meanwhile, PS3 requires an update to be compatible with PS2 games, let alone PS1 games. Exact same thing but you don't here people complaining about that.

This is why I will take good care of my Gamecube, so I can still play games on it.

turtlethetaffer

I watched my friend install an update that would make it so he could play PS2 games.

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

At least the PS2 doesn't have component cables that cost over $100.

turtlethetaffer

...you're missing my point? People are bashing WiiU because it doesn't have backwards compatibility TWO GENERATIONS BACK but meanwhile current gen systems don't even have BC of one generation without an update.

The PS2 doesn't have that problem; it can play fine on HDTVs in 480p, although it by no means will be the most beautiful graphics in the world. It at least has component cables that are cheap and easy to pick up.

While it's true that the PS3 no longer has PS2 backwards compatability, the PS2 is different from the Gamecube in that it's still on the market. You don't have to buy used on ebay or some refurbished system without a warranty, without manuals and without support. It's still right there in stores. It also doesn't share the same hardware architecture as the PS3, like the Gamecube and Wii and Wii U do. We can understand why the PS3 took out PS2 BC because the hardware was completely different.

By comparison, Nintendo's elimination of BC from the Wii U and now the Wii is baffling and makes no sense. The Wii was hardware-compatible with the Gamecube. It's like buying a PC that can't play games before 2006 for no apparent reason.

Maybe, but I liked the GC and would have liked the BC as well. Then again, I doubt the Wii U would have supported the GC port for controllers even if it did BC with the GC.

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

At least the PS2 doesn't have component cables that cost over $100.

SakusEnvoy

...you're missing my point? People are bashing WiiU because it doesn't have backwards compatibility TWO GENERATIONS BACK but meanwhile current gen systems don't even have BC of one generation without an update.

The PS2 doesn't have that problem; it can play fine on HDTVs in 480p, although it by no means will be the most beautiful graphics in the world. It at least has component cables that are cheap and easy to pick up.

While it's true that the PS3 no longer has PS2 backwards compatability, the PS2 is different from the Gamecube in that it's still on the market. You don't have to buy used on ebay or some refurbished system without a warranty, without manuals and without support. It's still right there in stores. It also doesn't share the same hardware architecture as the PS3, like the Gamecube and Wii and Wii U do. We can understand why the PS3 took out PS2 BC because the hardware was completely different.

By comparison, Nintendo's elimination of BC from the Wii U and now the Wii is baffling and makes no sense. The Wii was hardware-compatible with the Gamecube. It's like buying a PC that can't play games before 2006 for no apparent reason.

So what you're saying is that companies should forever include BC? How do we know there won't be a virtual console to include Gamecube games?

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

But see, my point is that the Gamecube -- while a wonderful system, I own it too -- isn't well adapted to HDTVs. Many of the SKUs don't have component cable support, and those that do require a $100+ component cable. BC is vitally important for getting the proper image quality out of the GC's many beautiful games.

The PS2 doesn't have that problem; it can play fine on HDTVs in 480p, although it by no means will be the most beautiful graphics in the world. It at least has component cables that are cheap and easy to pick up.

While it's true that the PS3 no longer has PS2 backwards compatability, the PS2 is different from the Gamecube in that it's still on the market. You don't have to buy used on ebay or some refurbished system without a warranty, without manuals and without support. It's still right there in stores. It also doesn't share the same hardware architecture as the PS3, like the Gamecube and Wii and Wii U do. We can understand why the PS3 took out PS2 BC because the hardware was completely different.

By comparison, Nintendo's elimination of BC from the Wii U and now the Wii is baffling and makes no sense. The Wii was hardware-compatible with the Gamecube. It's like buying a PC that can't play games before 2006 for no apparent reason.

turtlethetaffer

So what you're saying is that companies should forever include BC? How do we know there won't be a virtual console to include Gamecube games?

I thought that was awesome, frankly, because every system dating back to 2000 was covered. It was a move towards a more PC-like console experience, it reduced clutter in the living room, and it allowed older games to look better than they ever did before thanks to component cable support and upscaling.

I may be in the minority there. But what I don't like is when the hardware is there to run the older games, but BC is taken out anyway. I find it frustrating, and a virtual console system would do nothing to allievate that because I'd have to repurchase all my games. And the VC on the Wii was a big disappointment anyway, especially when it came to the N64 library.

Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of GameCube games I would love to pick up when I purchase a Wii-U but with digital distribution becoming more popular and practical, I see why Nintendo would rather cut support for a console over a decade old (I bet you people feel old now, seems like just yesturday the GameCube came out) and would instead op to just re-release the games for their virtual console service.

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

But see, my point is that the Gamecube -- while a wonderful system, I own it too -- isn't well adapted to HDTVs. Many of the SKUs don't have component cable support, and those that do require a $100+ component cable. BC is vitally important for getting the proper image quality out of the GC's many beautiful games.

The PS2 doesn't have that problem; it can play fine on HDTVs in 480p, although it by no means will be the most beautiful graphics in the world. It at least has component cables that are cheap and easy to pick up.

While it's true that the PS3 no longer has PS2 backwards compatability, the PS2 is different from the Gamecube in that it's still on the market. You don't have to buy used on ebay or some refurbished system without a warranty, without manuals and without support. It's still right there in stores. It also doesn't share the same hardware architecture as the PS3, like the Gamecube and Wii and Wii U do. We can understand why the PS3 took out PS2 BC because the hardware was completely different.

By comparison, Nintendo's elimination of BC from the Wii U and now the Wii is baffling and makes no sense. The Wii was hardware-compatible with the Gamecube. It's like buying a PC that can't play games before 2006 for no apparent reason.

SakusEnvoy

So what you're saying is that companies should forever include BC? How do we know there won't be a virtual console to include Gamecube games?

I thought that was awesome, frankly, because every system dating back to 2000 was covered. It was a move towards a more PC-like console experience, it reduced clutter in the living room, and it allowed older games to look better than they ever did before thanks to component cable support and upscaling.

I may be in the minority there. But what I don't like is when the hardware is there to run the older games, but BC is taken out anyway. I find it frustrating, and a virtual console system would do nothing to allievate that because I'd have to repurchase all my games. And the VC on the Wii was a big disappointment anyway, especially when it came to the N64 library.

I hardly think that it not being BC with 2 gens past is something to demerit it. People are far too picky.

It matters to me since there wont be a single Wii or Wii U game I want to play. At least I could play good games from the Gamecube library that dont require garbage motion controls or tablet gimmicks.

Fizzman

So? you were planning to get a New console only to be able to play a 12 years old gaming library...yep, how can you argue against this logic :?

In other news i can get a GC by less than 60$ or i can keep my Wii for GC titles.

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

It matters to me since there wont be a single Wii or Wii U game I want to play. At least I could play good games from the Gamecube library that dont require garbage motion controls or tablet gimmicks.

madsnakehhh

So? you were planning to get a New console only to be able to play a 12 years old gaming library...yep, how can you argue against this logic :?

In other news i can get a GC by less than 60$ or i can keep my Wii for GC titles.

$60? I'm pretty sure GameStop sells them for like $30 now, if not less. :P Hell you could probably get them to sell it too you for less if you tried, some GameStops I've gone into have an overstock of those things. :P

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

It matters to me since there wont be a single Wii or Wii U game I want to play. At least I could play good games from the Gamecube library that dont require garbage motion controls or tablet gimmicks.

turtlethetaffer

Why not just buy a Gamecube then?

We all know by now that wiiu does not have GC support. But i am asking why does this matter? GC was like the least popular nintendo system ever. Why do you want it to support the cube so bad? I heard pretendos crying about how they cant play smash bros on it without the gc controller. why in the hell cant they just use the wii pad? ill tell you why cus they already made up their minds it will suck because they are not really nintendo fans.

dontshackzmii

GC was infinitely better than wii.8)

Because Wii and GameCube use the same optical disk format, if it can play Wii games there is no reason it shouldn't be able to play GameCube games, it is an inconvenience to have to set up my Wii/GameCube anytime I want to play my old GameCube games, especially when I shouldn't have to.meetroid8

No offense, but I never understood why people consider it an inconvenience to have to set up another console. all my consoles are right near the tv, that way I can simply unplug/ plug in cords accordingly to play one of them.

[QUOTE="meetroid8"]Because Wii and GameCube use the same optical disk format, if it can play Wii games there is no reason it shouldn't be able to play GameCube games, it is an inconvenience to have to set up my Wii/GameCube anytime I want to play my old GameCube games, especially when I shouldn't have to.turtlethetaffer

No offense, but I never understood why people consider it an inconvenience to have to set up another console. all my consoles are right near the tv, that way I can simply unplug/ plug in cords accordingly to play one of them.

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="meetroid8"]Because Wii and GameCube use the same optical disk format, if it can play Wii games there is no reason it shouldn't be able to play GameCube games, it is an inconvenience to have to set up my Wii/GameCube anytime I want to play my old GameCube games, especially when I shouldn't have to.MFDOOM1983

No offense, but I never understood why people consider it an inconvenience to have to set up another console. all my consoles are right near the tv, that way I can simply unplug/ plug in cords accordingly to play one of them.

Still... to me it would be like changing disks. Not that big of a hassle. I used to have it so that my 'cube was packed away, and it wasn't that big a deal.

People like to find minimal excuses to hate something.

Meanwhile, PS3 requires an update to be compatible with PS2 games, let alone PS1 games. Exact same thing but you don't here people complaining about that.

This is why I will take good care of my Gamecube, so I can still play games on it.

turtlethetaffer

People like to find minimal excuses to hate something.

Meanwhile, PS3 requires an update to be compatible with PS2 games, let alone PS1 games.

turtlethetaffer

We all know by now that wiiu does not have GC support. But i am asking why does this matter? GC was like the least popular nintendo system ever. Why do you want it to support the cube so bad? I heard pretendos crying about how they cant play smash bros on it without the gc controller. why in the hell cant they just use the wii pad? ill tell you why cus they already made up their minds it will suck because they are not really nintendo fans.

dontshackzmii

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

People like to find minimal excuses to hate something.

Meanwhile, PS3 requires an update to be compatible with PS2 games, let alone PS1 games. Exact same thing but you don't here people complaining about that.

This is why I will take good care of my Gamecube, so I can still play games on it.

charizard1605

So true... too bad a lot of people don't seem to agree (regarding your Wii vs. GC statement).... The GC was the last system for me when EVERY Nintendo title coming out was at least worth buying...

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

We all know by now that wiiu does not have GC support. But i am asking why does this matter? GC was like the least popular nintendo system ever. Why do you want it to support the cube so bad? I heard pretendos crying about how they cant play smash bros on it without the gc controller. why in the hell cant they just use the wii pad? ill tell you why cus they already made up their minds it will suck because they are not really nintendo fans.

YoshiYogurt

i am a nintendo fan and i hated it. loved the snes loved the 64 loved the game boys but i hated the cube.

[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"][QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

We all know by now that wiiu does not have GC support. But i am asking why does this matter? GC was like the least popular nintendo system ever. Why do you want it to support the cube so bad? I heard pretendos crying about how they cant play smash bros on it without the gc controller. why in the hell cant they just use the wii pad? ill tell you why cus they already made up their minds it will suck because they are not really nintendo fans.

dontshackzmii

i am a nintendo fan and i hated it. loved the snes loved the 64 loved the game boys but i hated the cube.

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

People like to find minimal excuses to hate something.

Meanwhile, PS3 requires an update to be compatible with PS2 games, let alone PS1 games. Exact same thing but you don't here people complaining about that.

This is why I will take good care of my Gamecube, so I can still play games on it.

charizard1605

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

People like to find minimal excuses to hate something.

Meanwhile, PS3 requires an update to be compatible with PS2 games, let alone PS1 games. Exact same thing but you don't here people complaining about that.

This is why I will take good care of my Gamecube, so I can still play games on it.

ShuichiChamp24

. why in the hell cant they just use the wii pad?

dontshackzmii

because apparently we are only allowed to have one per system and for a game like Smash Bros. that is completely unacceptable.

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

why in the hell cant they just use the wii pad?

VendettaRed07

because apparently we are only allowed to have one per system and for a game like Smash Bros. that is completely unacceptable.

um thats is not for sure at all

Why should the Wii-U support games from two gens before it?

GC had great games that are worth preserving.

I think Nintendo has it right. I think that company's should offer B/C on the generation before. Offering B/C further back than that can only increase cost in the system (meaning more cost for you). If a console contained B/C for 3 generations back, it would be filled with different controller inputs and other needless stuff.

The gamecube library was awesome though (with Wind Waker and Starfox Adventures being my personal favourites)

I don't think it's a huge deal as we will likely see games coming to Wii U's VC. Maybe even remade in HD. Seriously, if you want to play GC games, keep your Wii's, you'll only get like $30 for it from Gamestop.

It only matters if putting in 100% GC backwards compatibility costs Nintendo nothing and they are pulling it out to resell DD versions of GC games. If they are pulling it out because it would lower total manufacturing costs, then it is entirely understandable. And if anyone wants GC games, they can just buy a Wii or a GC and pick up $80-100 versions of the game that Nintendo will be offering for $20-40 on their Wii U DD service.