Wii U Is A $400 Xbox 360 Seven Years Late....Developer Says

Ex Darksiders 2 Developer Says Wii U Is A $400 Xbox 360 Seven Years Late

Ex Darksiders 2 Senior UI Designer, Xander Davis, has spoken to Not Enough Shaders about working with THQ on Darksiders 2, and what he thinks of Nintendos forthcoming console Wii U. Heres Davis unedited thoughts about the system.

Ive not worked on any Wii U version of anything (luckily). But, yknow, I very early on raised my major concern about this. Anybody buying any Wii U game thats a port is probably buying it almost exclusively and specifically for how it can play differently through the Wii Us alleged innovated UI. Im already a known skeptic on whether the interface paradigm is at all anything but idiotic. But if youre gonna do it? Fine. Then, you HAVE to do it right. You HAVE to innovate on the UI. You HAVE to enhance game mechanics and gameplay in a MATERIAL way that justifies all the hassle and a $400 Xbox 360 seven years late.

I cant comment on THQ / Vigil specifically. However, just in general, I doubt any studio or publisher is truly giving it the kind of proper UI design and thinking it deserves. Hell, apparently this is a huge leap for regular triple-A console releases. From what Im hearing from people who have actually played a Wii U as recently as a month ago, the games pretty much suck and the tablet is pretty much a complete gimmick. Still tethered, not wireless. Maybe publishers can pull off something clever. But wont it just kind of be clever for a little bit, then not really worth your $60 dollars and just annoying afterwards? Kinect comes to mind. PlayStation Move comes to mind. **** Wii comes to mind. But, sure, well have to wait and see I cant comment on specifics. I can only speculate, but as a UI Designer applying experienced critical thinking to game mechanics UI and the Wii U tablet, none of it makes sense to me to truly add value to gamers, even if you try.

http://mynintendonews.com/2012/08/15/ex-darksiders-2-developer-says-wii-u-is-a-400-xbox-360-seven-years-late/

This is a bad sign for the WiiU.

Nothing but truth in what he said, but of course sheep won't give a f*ck.

Zing... and a big ouch for Wii U :o

This is a bad sign for the WiiU.

AtariKidX

Ex Darksiders 2 Developer Says Wii U Is A $400 Xbox 360 Seven Years Late

Ex Darksiders 2 Senior UI Designer, Xander Davis, has spoken to Not Enough Shaders about working with THQ on Darksiders 2, and what he thinks of Nintendos forthcoming console Wii U. Heres Davis unedited thoughts about the system.

Ive not worked on any Wii U version of anything (luckily).

AtariKidX

Not to side with the Sheep or anything but..

"Ive not worked on any Wii U version of anything (luckily)."

So how exactly does he know the architecture of the system? If he actually worked on DSII for the Wii-U then I would sing a different tune.. just saying.

Nothing but truth in what he said, but of course sheep won't give a f*ck.

parkurtommo

Not to side with the Sheep or anything but..

"Ive not worked on any Wii U version of anything (luckily)."

So how exactly does he know the architecture of the system? If he actually worked on DSII for the Wii-U then I would sing a different tune.. just saying.

OhSnapitz

That's what I'm saying.

At the moment, He might as well be a Forum Poster on here spouting nonsense about the system.

Not to side with the Sheep or anything but..

"Ive not worked on any Wii U version of anything (luckily)."

So how exactly does he know the architecture of the system? If he actually worked on DSII for the Wii-U then I would sing a different tune.. just saying.

OhSnapitz

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

Not to side with the Sheep or anything but..

"Ive not worked on any Wii U version of anything (luckily)."

So how exactly does he know the architecture of the system? If he actually worked on DSII for the Wii-U then I would sing a different tune.. just saying.

parkurtommo

He might as well be making a forum post on here with that much credibilty.

I'm surprised a UI designer isn't interested in the gamepad. Oh well.

......So is the 400$ price confirmed or did he made that up? Likely the latter.

And also the WiiU is about the gamepad and no the 360 doesn't have that.

I'm surprised a UI designer isn't interested in the gamepad. Oh well.

......So is the 400$ price confirmed or did he made that up? Likely the latter.

And also the WiiU is about the gamepad and no the 360 doesn't have that.

m_machine024

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

Not to side with the Sheep or anything but..

"Ive not worked on any Wii U version of anything (luckily)."

So how exactly does he know the architecture of the system? If he actually worked on DSII for the Wii-U then I would sing a different tune.. just saying.

parkurtommo

So let me get this straight..

"I heard from people who have actually played a Wii U"..

So he has not actually played it himself. :| I "hear" from formites every freggin day how Halo sucks, yet I still love the series and it works. :|

And YOU and him have both played it to know that the UI "does not work and is not innovative".. :| How about we wait and see what they bring to the table before we make decisions like that.

And when did they release the final retail price of the Wii-U? Did I miss something? :?

[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

Not to side with the Sheep or anything but..

"Ive not worked on any Wii U version of anything (luckily)."

So how exactly does he know the architecture of the system? If he actually worked on DSII for the Wii-U then I would sing a different tune.. just saying.

OhSnapitz

So let me get this straight..

"I heard from people who have actually played a Wii U"..

So he has not actually played it himself. :| I "hear" from formites every freggin day how Halo sucks, yet I still love the series and it works. :|

And YOU and him have both played it to know that the UI "does not work and is not innovative".. :| How about we wait and see what they bring to the table before we make decisions like that.

And when did they release the final retail price of the Wii-U? Did I miss something? :?

Look at the bright side, sheep! You can still look at your iPad for a map or even inventory!!!!!! worth 400$ in my book :lol: Will this be a bigger ripoff than Wiiwii was? Possibilities are rising.silversix_

How was the Wii a Ripoff? Also didn't Iwata say they took the 3DS's launch to consideration for Pricing the WiiU? I don't think it's going to be $400.

[QUOTE="silversix_"]Look at the bright side, sheep! You can still look at your iPad for a map or even inventory!!!!!! worth 400$ in my book :lol: Will this be a bigger ripoff than Wiiwii was? Possibilities are rising.LegatoSkyheart

How was the Wii a Ripoff? Also didn't Iwata say they took the 3DS's launch to consideration for Pricing the WiiU? I don't think it's going to be $400.

I very much doubt this guy knows the price of the Wii U, or indeed anything. He worked on Darksiders II for 90 days before he was fired as due to "poor performance". This guys probably more butt hurt than the average lem.

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="silversix_"]Look at the bright side, sheep! You can still look at your iPad for a map or even inventory!!!!!! worth 400$ in my book :lol: Will this be a bigger ripoff than Wiiwii was? Possibilities are rising.OhSnapitz

How was the Wii a Ripoff? Also didn't Iwata say they took the 3DS's launch to consideration for Pricing the WiiU? I don't think it's going to be $400.

well I wouldn't go as far to say there's no way Nintendo would sell something like this for $400. but I don't think they would go to $400. They might go $350.

[QUOTE="m_machine024"]

I'm surprised a UI designer isn't interested in the gamepad. Oh well.

......So is the 400$ price confirmed or did he made that up? Likely the latter.

And also the WiiU is about the gamepad and no the 360 doesn't have that.

parkurtommo

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"]

Ex Darksiders 2 Developer Says Wii U Is A $400 Xbox 360 Seven Years Late

Ex Darksiders 2 Senior UI Designer, Xander Davis, has spoken to Not Enough Shaders about working with THQ on Darksiders 2, and what he thinks of Nintendos forthcoming console Wii U. Heres Davis unedited thoughts about the system.

Ive not worked on any Wii U version of anything (luckily).

LegatoSkyheart

Lol yeah what an idiot, plus apparently he made out his situation with Virgil worse than it actually was so I can't really take him seriously at this point.

[QUOTE="silversix_"]Look at the bright side, sheep! You can still look at your iPad for a map or even inventory!!!!!! worth 400$ in my book :lol: Will this be a bigger ripoff than Wiiwii was? Possibilities are rising.LegatoSkyheart

How was the Wii a Ripoff? Also didn't Iwata say they took the 3DS's launch to consideration for Pricing the WiiU? I don't think it's going to be $400.

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="silversix_"]Look at the bright side, sheep! You can still look at your iPad for a map or even inventory!!!!!! worth 400$ in my book :lol: Will this be a bigger ripoff than Wiiwii was? Possibilities are rising.silversix_

How was the Wii a Ripoff? Also didn't Iwata say they took the 3DS's launch to consideration for Pricing the WiiU? I don't think it's going to be $400.

It's not really the same Console. I can play Gamecube Games on my Wii, but I can't play Wii Games on my Gamecube.

Can't download games like Lost Winds on the Gamecube either.

I very much doubt this guy knows the price of the Wii U, or indeed anything. He worked on Darksiders II for 90 days before he was fired as due to "poor performance". This guys probably more butt hurt than the average lem.

Sir_Torrigan

I'm surprised a UI designer isn't interested in the gamepad. Oh well.

......So is the 400$ price confirmed or did he made that up? Likely the latter.

And also the WiiU is about the gamepad and no the 360 doesn't have that.

m_machine024

:lol:

I won't beleive a price intill Nintendo says it them selfs.

[QUOTE="silversix_"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

How was the Wii a Ripoff? Also didn't Iwata say they took the 3DS's launch to consideration for Pricing the WiiU? I don't think it's going to be $400.

LegatoSkyheart

It's not really the same Console. I can play Gamecube Games on my Wii, but I can't play Wii Games on my Gamecube.

Can't download games like Lost Winds on the Gamecube either.

Interesting article I came across...

This was concerning Xander Davis (the "developer" in question)

"While employment and privacy laws preclude us from discussing the circumstances surrounding the departure of any individual no longer with the company, we can confirm that the employee in question worked for us a total of 90 days, whereas Darksiders II was more than 2 ½ years in development. When we were forced to reduce staff due to the cancellation of a project, we worked hard to ensure every single person effected by the layoff received their credit in the game. We did not include individuals whose employment terminated for any other reason, for example, being let go for documented poor performance."

UH OH Spaghetti Oh's! :?

Now I'm not insensitive.. as losing one's job can be devastating. And I with Xander the best. However, I'll take a statement from someone like that with a grain of salt.

Other devs have said it is considerably more powerful than the 360.

Pick what quote you want, either way its still up the air.

Couldn't care for one minute how powerful the Wii U is, Nintendo just give me Xenoblade 2 and the usually Ninty games and I'll give you all the money you want for the system

Because after all, games make it a new console lol. No graphical evolution = ripoffparkurtommo

whatever man, I got my moneys worth of games for the system so.

[QUOTE="Sir_Torrigan"]

I very much doubt this guy knows the price of the Wii U, or indeed anything. He worked on Darksiders II for 90 days before he was fired as due to "poor performance". This guys probably more butt hurt than the average lem.

m_machine024

Google searched his name and it came up with This straight away

Pretty much what i'm thinking right now and Nintendo hasn't shown anything to say otherwise.

Any time Nintendo feels like waking up and showing me why I should want this, it'd be nice. It's not like they're launching in a few months or anything.

Well, that's one ignorant developer then.

Believe it or not, even developers can sprout ignorant and narrow-minded babble sometimes.

Also, how exactly can he judge the system's capabilites if he didn't even work on any Wii U projects?

Sounds like, indeed, a "butthurt" person who is just angry because he got laid off by his company.

So.. A dev that are making a game for the WiiU is saying dont buy my game on this system.. thats a little counterproductive. Ohh the fanboys... Use your brain a little..

So.. A dev that are making a game for the WiiU is saying dont buy my game on this system.. thats a little counterproductive. Ohh the fanboys... Use your brain a little..

ocidax

"Ive not worked on any Wii U version of anything (luckily)"

*Works for Vigil for 3 months, and gets fired for poor performance* *Rages on the Internet cuz I'm not credited for the work pitched in* *Makes dumb posts about a console he never worked for*

Yeah, this guy is better off flipping burgers

Pretty much what i'm thinking right now and Nintendo hasn't shown anything to say otherwise.

Any time Nintendo feels like waking up and showing me why I should want this, it'd be nice. It's not like they're launching in a few months or anything.

HalcyonScarlet

So you believe a guy's opinion when he admitted that he hasn't worked on the system because he heard from others and after being fired for 3 months of work? Did you even read the article or what Vigil said about this loser?

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"]

Ex Darksiders 2 Developer Says Wii U Is A $400 Xbox 360 Seven Years Late

Ex Darksiders 2 Senior UI Designer, Xander Davis, has spoken to Not Enough Shaders about working with THQ on Darksiders 2, and what he thinks of Nintendos forthcoming console Wii U. Heres Davis unedited thoughts about the system.

Ive not worked on any Wii U version of anything (luckily).

LegatoSkyheart

I can't believe that after Kinect, PS Move, and the Wii people are still falling for gameplay gimmicks like this. Just give me a controller. Innovation should be IN THE GAME, not in the controller. Bread_or_Decide

>implying that Gaming shouldn't innovate outside the Console.

let me just put this right here.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]I can't believe that after Kinect, PS Move, and the Wii people are still falling for gameplay gimmicks like this. Just give me a controller. Innovation should be IN THE GAME, not in the controller. LegatoSkyheart

>implying that Gaming shouldn't innovate outside the Console.

let me just put this right here.

[QUOTE="silversix_"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

How was the Wii a Ripoff? Also didn't Iwata say they took the 3DS's launch to consideration for Pricing the WiiU? I don't think it's going to be $400.

LegatoSkyheart

It's not really the same Console. I can play Gamecube Games on my Wii, but I can't play Wii Games on my Gamecube.

Can't download games like Lost Winds on the Gamecube either.

"Ive not worked on any Wii U version of anything" - Stopped reading right there.

Apparently Nint fans like playing systems that lag 7 years behind in technology and boasting about sales numbers because it appeals to people who are too cheap to pay for the better systems and they're just buying it for their very young children who it appeals to because they're very young and don't know the difference any way.