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#1 LeMeAtOm
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Hi all,

http://uk.gamespot.com/users/LeMeAtOm/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=m-100-25986454

This is my first blog on gamespot and after 8 years, it took some time, not sure of anyway to put your blogs out there, so thought it a good idea to post right here, it seems logical.

Thanks :)

ps, if anyone can assist me in how to share blogs with the rest of you without spamming the forum please let me know!

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#2 freedomfreak
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Posting about your blog is not allowed.

Just post your blog and put a question below it.
Like..
"Does anyone else thinks this way?" or "How do you feel about this?".

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#3 Demonjoe93
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Wii-U is next generation due to chronology. Power is irrelevant

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#4 DNAbro
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Wii-U is next generation due to chronology. Power is irrelevant

Demonjoe93

yup

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#5 lundy86_4
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Wii-U is next generation due to chronology. Power is irrelevant

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The only correct answer.

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#6 Captain__Tripps
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Wii-U is next generation due to chronology. Power is irrelevant

Demonjoe93
So if Nintendo re-released the NES and started making new games for it it would be a next generation console?
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#7 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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Wii-U is next generation due to chronology. Power is irrelevant

Demonjoe93
For the love of god, THIS! Stupid fanboys can sputter otherwise all they wan, but power has jack all to do with generations.
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#8 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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Wii-U is next generation due to chronology. Power is irrelevant

Demonjoe93
For the love of god, THIS! Stupid fanboys can sputter otherwise all they wan, but power has jack all to do with generations.
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#9 True_Chaos_UK
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Wii U is Next generation but not Star Trek the Next Generation.

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#10 Nintendo_Ownes7
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[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

Wii-U is next generation due to chronology. Power is irrelevant

Captain__Tripps

So if Nintendo re-released the NES and started making new games for it it would be a next generation console?

No that would just be a rerelease of the NES.

If it was a new console with the graphics of the NES then yes it would be a next generation console.

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#11 LordQuorthon
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So if Nintendo re-released the NES and started making new games for it it would be a next generation console?Captain__Tripps

Yes. And it would kick as much ass as the original NES did.

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#12 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

Wii-U is next generation due to chronology. Power is irrelevant

Captain__Tripps

So if Nintendo re-released the NES and started making new games for it it would be a next generation console?

No, because the NES already exists as a third gen console. Rereleasing it doesn't change that.

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#13 ShadowMoses900
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Well honestly it's graphics look on par with current gen systems, at least on par with the 360 anyway. Haven't seen anything on it that can rival PS3 exclusives yet.

But I don't really care, Nintendo makes the best 1st party games so I'm picking up a WiiU regardless. PS4 and WiiU for next gen.

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#14 Nintendo_Ownes7
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Well honestly it's graphics look on par with current gen systems, at least on par with the 360 anyway. Haven't seen anything on it that can rival PS3 exclusives yet.

But I don't really care, Nintendo makes the best 1st party games so I'm picking up a WiiU regardless. PS4 and WiiU for next gen.

ShadowMoses900

I'm going WiiU and PS4 next gen aswell.

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#15 2Chalupas
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It is a next gen console, but focused more on "efficiency" and cheapness than powahh. Also the tablet/touch screen controller. So in the end it is next gen hardware, but reality wise it won't be capable of running truly "next gen" games.
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#16 Selkc
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its another dreamcast

what nintendo has going for the U is the controller and that its been way too long before a generation update. so ppl are going to jump in I believe just because of the wait finally being over

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#17 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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In terms of power?... don't know but probably in between.
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#18 famicommander
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Who the hell cares about these ridiculous labels?
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#19 Cranler
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Wii-U is next generation due to chronology. Power is irrelevant

Demonjoe93
next genis a common label applied to a major hardware upgrade. wii was last gen level hardware, wiiu will bring nintendo into the current gen. plain and simple
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#20 ocidax
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[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

Wii-U is next generation due to chronology. Power is irrelevant

Cranler
next genis a common label applied to a major hardware upgrade. wii was last gen level hardware, wiiu will bring nintendo into the current gen. plain and simple

No. Is the first next gen console. plain and simple. The race is wii - ps3 and x360. No wii - ps2 - xbox - gamecube. And the next gen race is going to be WiiU-PS4-X720
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This is all assuming that the PS4 and Nextbox are actually taking leaps. I lol'd.
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#22 Wasdie  Moderator
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It's technically next gen, but if the rumors about the power of Microsoft and Sony's next-gen consoles are true, I think Wii-U early adopters are going to be very disappointed when all they get are some ports of 7th gen consoles and a handful of exclusives that look dated compared to the other platforms.

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#23 Zeviander
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It's technically next gen, but if the rumors about the power of Microsoft and Sony's next-gen consoles are true, I think Wii-U early adopters are going to be very disappointed when all they get are some ports of 7th gen consoles and a handful of exclusives that look dated compared to the other platforms.Wasdie
Yes, because people play consoles for their technical capabilities. :lol: This coming from a PC gamer makes it that much funnier.
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#24 fueled-system
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]It's technically next gen, but if the rumors about the power of Microsoft and Sony's next-gen consoles are true, I think Wii-U early adopters are going to be very disappointed when all they get are some ports of 7th gen consoles and a handful of exclusives that look dated compared to the other platforms.Zeviander
Yes, because people play consoles for their technical capabilities. :lol: This coming from a PC gamer makes it that much funnier.

People pay for the ease of use but very few people want to buy a new system that rivals a system that is considered by tech standards ancient..

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#25 Wasdie  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]It's technically next gen, but if the rumors about the power of Microsoft and Sony's next-gen consoles are true, I think Wii-U early adopters are going to be very disappointed when all they get are some ports of 7th gen consoles and a handful of exclusives that look dated compared to the other platforms.Zeviander
Yes, because people play consoles for their technical capabilities. :lol: This coming from a PC gamer makes it that much funnier.

Well I'm just thinking that if you buy a WiiU expecting next generation graphics and all of these multiplats and games to show up on the system unlike the Wii, there's a good chance that you'll be disappointed.

I have a funny feeling that the WiiU isn't going to be getting the majority of the multiplats on the other systems and PCs. We'll see a higher amount than the Wii got sure, but not a lot.

I don't see the WiiU appealing to much more than the Nintendo fans.

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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]It's technically next gen, but if the rumors about the power of Microsoft and Sony's next-gen consoles are true, I think Wii-U early adopters are going to be very disappointed when all they get are some ports of 7th gen consoles and a handful of exclusives that look dated compared to the other platforms.Zeviander
Yes, because people play consoles for their technical capabilities. :lol: This coming from a PC gamer makes it that much funnier.

People pay for the ease of use but very few people want to buy a new system that rivals a system that is considered by tech standards ancient..

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[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

Wii-U is next generation due to chronology. Power is irrelevant

Captain__Tripps
So if Nintendo re-released the NES and started making new games for it it would be a next generation console?

Where did you get this lack of logical thought from?
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[QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"][QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

Wii-U is next generation due to chronology. Power is irrelevant

Shockwave-DASH
So if Nintendo re-released the NES and started making new games for it it would be a next generation console?

Where did you get this lack of logical thought from?

I've always thought "next gen" console, meant it advanced in some significant way. Not just a new chronological system. Wii to me was never next gen. Just a souped up GCN with a new controller.
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]It's technically next gen, but if the rumors about the power of Microsoft and Sony's next-gen consoles are true, I think Wii-U early adopters are going to be very disappointed when all they get are some ports of 7th gen consoles and a handful of exclusives that look dated compared to the other platforms.Zeviander
Yes, because people play consoles for their technical capabilities. :lol: This coming from a PC gamer makes it that much funnier.

People pay for the ease of use but very few people want to buy a new system that rivals a system that is considered by tech standards ancient..

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Well honestly it's graphics look on par with current gen systems, at least on par with the 360 anyway. Haven't seen anything on it that can rival PS3 exclusives yet.

But I don't really care, Nintendo makes the best 1st party games so I'm picking up a WiiU regardless. PS4 and WiiU for next gen.

ShadowMoses900

No differents between the 360 and ps3 in therms of graphics hell not even the exclusives.

But the Wii U is original thats all that counts to me.

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[QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"][QUOTE="Demonjoe93"] Where did you get this lack of logical thought from?
[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

Wii-U is next generation due to chronology. Power is irrelevant

ocidax
next genis a common label applied to a major hardware upgrade. wii was last gen level hardware, wiiu will bring nintendo into the current gen. plain and simple

No. Is the first next gen console. plain and simple. The race is wii - ps3 and x360. No wii - ps2 - xbox - gamecube. And the next gen race is going to be WiiU-PS4-X720

Pretty sure there's another unpopular console releasing before the Wii U, something by a computer company i believe. Might just be chinese though.
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#32 Cranler
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[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

Wii-U is next generation due to chronology. Power is irrelevant

ocidax
next genis a common label applied to a major hardware upgrade. wii was last gen level hardware, wiiu will bring nintendo into the current gen. plain and simple

No. Is the first next gen console. plain and simple. The race is wii - ps3 and x360. No wii - ps2 - xbox - gamecube. And the next gen race is going to be WiiU-PS4-X720

generations are defined by the hardware capabilities, nintendo will finally enter the current gen withthe wii underpowered
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#33 ocidax
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Who says that a generation is determined only by the hardware?. By your logic. What is going to happen if Microsoft or Sony take the Wii path (cheap and profitable hardware and i think that Sony is going to do it)
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Wii-U is next generation due to chronology. Power is irrelevant

Demonjoe93
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[QUOTE="ocidax"][QUOTE="Cranler"]next genis a common label applied to a major hardware upgrade. wii was last gen level hardware, wiiu will bring nintendo into the current gen. plain and simpleCranler
No. Is the first next gen console. plain and simple. The race is wii - ps3 and x360. No wii - ps2 - xbox - gamecube. And the next gen race is going to be WiiU-PS4-X720

generations are defined by the hardware capabilities, nintendo will finally enter the current gen withthe wii underpowered

No, your an idiot. Your wrong opinion is idiotic. Also, the facts that the definition is in the survival guide sticky, and all logical people go by the chronology definition makes you more wrong.
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Well honestly it's graphics look on par with current gen systems, at least on par with the 360 anyway. Haven't seen anything on it that can rival PS3 exclusives yet.

But I don't really care, Nintendo makes the best 1st party games so I'm picking up a WiiU regardless. PS4 and WiiU for next gen.

ShadowMoses900
Here's where you're wrong The LAUNCH games look like ps3/360 games ;) wait for a few years
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[QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"][QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"][QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"] So if Nintendo re-released the NES and started making new games for it it would be a next generation console?

Where did you get this lack of logical thought from?

I've always thought "next gen" console, meant it advanced in some significant way. Not just a new chronological system. Wii to me was never next gen. Just a souped up GCN with a new controller.

But the wii is stronger than theGC, ps2 and Xbox so it was next gen
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[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="ocidax"] No. Is the first next gen console. plain and simple. The race is wii - ps3 and x360. No wii - ps2 - xbox - gamecube. And the next gen race is going to be WiiU-PS4-X720darkspineslayer
generations are defined by the hardware capabilities, nintendo will finally enter the current gen withthe wii underpowered

No, your ?an idiot. Your wrong opinion is idiotic. Also, the facts that the definition is in the survival guide sticky, and all logical people go by the chronology definition makes you more wrong.

Nintendo being 7 years late to the table makes it next gen? How can it be next gen when it does nothing new?
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#39 Cranler
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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"][QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"] Where did you get this lack of logical thought from?

I've always thought "next gen" console, meant it advanced in some significant way. Not just a new chronological system. Wii to me was never next gen. Just a souped up GCN with a new controller.

But the wii is stronger than theGC, ps2 and Xbox so it was next gen

what wii game looks better than ninja gaiden or riddick?
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[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"][QUOTE="Cranler"]generations are defined by the hardware capabilities, nintendo will finally enter the current gen withthe wii underpoweredCranler
No, your ?an idiot. Your wrong opinion is idiotic. Also, the facts that the definition is in the survival guide sticky, and all logical people go by the chronology definition makes you more wrong.

Nintendo being 7 years late to the table makes it next gen? How can it be next gen when it does nothing new?

Nintendo being 7 years late to the party has NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. It can't be this hard to understand that.
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#41 Cranler
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[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"][QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="darkspineslayer"] No, your ?an idiot. Your wrong opinion is idiotic. Also, the facts that the definition is in the survival guide sticky, and all logical people go by the chronology definition makes you more wrong.

Nintendo being 7 years late to the table makes it next gen? How can it be next gen when it does nothing new?

Nintendo being 7 years late to the party has NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. It can't be this hard to understand that.

So you want to classify a console that cant play next gen games as a next gen console?
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[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="darkspineslayer"][QUOTE="Cranler"] Nintendo being 7 years late to the table makes it next gen? How can it be next gen when it does nothing new?

Nintendo being 7 years late to the party has NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. It can't be this hard to understand that.

So you want to classify a console that cant play next gen games as a next gen console?

First of all, define next gen games to me. Let me in on whatever is going on in your mind, because I'm losing track. Please don't just say visuals. Secondly, hell of a crystal ball you got there. 360 started off slowly, with games looking barely better than previous generation titles. You don't have any idea what the Wii U is capable of, none of us do, and likely only Nintendo ever will. Your making assumptions based on demos from E3 on hardware that's only recently been finalized, and from dev teams just learning the hardware. The fact we already have ports that look better than the current gen is an excellent start (and that's what it is, a start)
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[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"][QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="darkspineslayer"] Nintendo being 7 years late to the party has NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. It can't be this hard to understand that.

So you want to classify a console that cant play next gen games as a next gen console?

First of all, define next gen games to me. Let me in on whatever is going on in your mind, because I'm losing track. Please don't just say visuals. Secondly, hell of a crystal ball you got there. 360 started off slowly, with games looking barely better than previous generation titles. You don't have any idea what the Wii U is capable of, none of us do, and likely only Nintendo ever will. Your making assumptions based on demos from E3 on hardware that's only recently been finalized, and from dev teams just learning the hardware. The fact we already have ports that look better than the current gen is an excellent start (and that's what it is, a start)

Maybe you were too young for e3 2005. Everone was amazed at all the next gen games. Cod 2 was a launch game that ran at double the resolution of games on prevoius gen consoles. You needed a high end pc to play cod 2 at the same setting as 360. Thats a next gen console. Wii underpowered e3 showing is completely underwhelmeing and does nothing new
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[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"][QUOTE="Cranler"] So you want to classify a console that cant play next gen games as a next gen console?Cranler
First of all, define next gen games to me. Let me in on whatever is going on in your mind, because I'm losing track. Please don't just say visuals. Secondly, hell of a crystal ball you got there. 360 started off slowly, with games looking barely better than previous generation titles. You don't have any idea what the Wii U is capable of, none of us do, and likely only Nintendo ever will. Your making assumptions based on demos from E3 on hardware that's only recently been finalized, and from dev teams just learning the hardware. The fact we already have ports that look better than the current gen is an excellent start (and that's what it is, a start)

Maybe you were too young for e3 2005. Everone was amazed at all the next gen games. Cod 2 was a launch game that ran at double the resolution of games on prevoius gen consoles. You needed a high end pc to play cod 2 at the same setting as 360. Thats a next gen console. Wii underpowered e3 showing is completely underwhelmeing and does nothing new

These Wii U ports don't look much better then current gen, and look worse then their PC counterparts with AA and Physix in Batman. I remember when I had to attach a 3D video card to my 2D card to play Dark Forces 2, Half Life 2 came out, Doom 3, Crysis, World In Conflict, and then Battlefield 3. Each time these jumps made people's gaming systems and wallets cry.

There is nothing like that right now and hasn't been other then BF3 for years.

Also, as my picture noted, the Wii U is coming out between generations (just like Dreamcast did). That's a horrible plan, especially this far ahead of it's competition. Nintendo has the software (just as Sega did), and the money (that Sega didn't). They'd be best off at this point going Sega's route and save the money on hardware and develop software only. They'd make billions in profit.

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#46 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="Captain__Tripps"] I've always thought "next gen" console, meant it advanced in some significant way. Not just a new chronological system. Wii to me was never next gen. Just a souped up GCN with a new controller.

Mario galaxy is a huge example. Posting screenshots is REUNDANT. The wii uses a power pc processor which is 3 times more powerful than the penguin 3 processor that the Xbox uses But the wii is stronger than theGC, ps2 and Xbox so it was next gen

what wii game looks better than ninja gaiden or riddick?

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[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="darkspineslayer"] First of all, define next gen games to me. Let me in on whatever is going on in your mind, because I'm losing track. Please don't just say visuals. Secondly, hell of a crystal ball you got there. 360 started off slowly, with games looking barely better than previous generation titles. You don't have any idea what the Wii U is capable of, none of us do, and likely only Nintendo ever will. Your making assumptions based on demos from E3 on hardware that's only recently been finalized, and from dev teams just learning the hardware. The fact we already have ports that look better than the current gen is an excellent start (and that's what it is, a start)Stratacoustic

Maybe you were too young for e3 2005. Everone was amazed at all the next gen games. Cod 2 was a launch game that ran at double the resolution of games on prevoius gen consoles. You needed a high end pc to play cod 2 at the same setting as 360. Thats a next gen console. Wii underpowered e3 showing is completely underwhelmeing and does nothing new

These Wii U ports don't look much better then current gen, and look worse then their PC counterparts with AA and Physix in Batman. I remember when I had to attach a 3D video card to my 2D card to play Dark Forces 2, Half Life 2 came out, Doom 3, Crysis, World In Conflict, and then Battlefield 3. Each time these jumps made people's gaming systems and wallets cry.

There is nothing like that right now and hasn't been other then BF3 for years.

Also, as my picutre noted, the Wii U is coming out between generations (just like Dreamcast did). That's a horrible plan, especially this far ahead of it's competition. Nintendo has the software (just as Sega did), and the money (that Sega didn't). They'd be best off at this point going Sega's router and save the money on hardware and develop software only. They'd make billions in profit.

Next gen started. The LAUNCH games look like ps3 and 360 games but wait for a few years ;)
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[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="darkspineslayer"] First of all, define next gen games to me. Let me in on whatever is going on in your mind, because I'm losing track. Please don't just say visuals. Secondly, hell of a crystal ball you got there. 360 started off slowly, with games looking barely better than previous generation titles. You don't have any idea what the Wii U is capable of, none of us do, and likely only Nintendo ever will. Your making assumptions based on demos from E3 on hardware that's only recently been finalized, and from dev teams just learning the hardware. The fact we already have ports that look better than the current gen is an excellent start (and that's what it is, a start)Stratacoustic

Maybe you were too young for e3 2005. Everone was amazed at all the next gen games. Cod 2 was a launch game that ran at double the resolution of games on prevoius gen consoles. You needed a high end pc to play cod 2 at the same setting as 360. Thats a next gen console. Wii underpowered e3 showing is completely underwhelmeing and does nothing new

These Wii U ports don't look much better then current gen, and look worse then their PC counterparts with AA and Physix in Batman. I remember when I had to attach a 3D video card to my 2D card to play Dark Forces 2, Half Life 2 came out, Doom 3, Crysis, World In Conflict, and then Battlefield 3. Each time these jumps made people's gaming systems and wallets cry.

There is nothing like that right now and hasn't been other then BF3 for years.

Also, as my picutre noted, the Wii U is coming out between generations (just like Dreamcast did). That's a horrible plan, especially this far ahead of it's competition. Nintendo has the software (just as Sega did), and the money (that Sega didn't). They'd be best off at this point going Sega's router and save the money on hardware and develop software only. They'd make billions in profit.

Next gen started. The LAUNCH games look like ps3 and 360 games but wait for a few years ;)