Wii U online going back to the ps2 days major rubbish ahead !!

Nintendo 1st thought onling gaming was a fad and skipped it on the cube. Then finally got some rubbish online with the wii. Now the wii u is letting 3rd parties set up their own online per game on the wii u. This was the same set up the ps2 had where every game had a diffrent log on and diffrent levels of quality. This is what the wii u will be says nintendo.

Nintendo basically is letting 3rd parties do as much or as little online as they want. IMO this is yet more rubbish and what I have come to expect from nintendo. They will be way behind yet again. So thinking about cross game chat or invites not going to happen. Anyway this is the whole interview right here.

Anybody thinking the wii u was going to have even psn level online keep dreaming. The online will be all on the 3rd parties for better or for worse just like back in the ps2 days and IMO that is just sad in a 2012 console. Don't hate on the messenger I only report the news.

hmm....do yall think Activition would try to take advantage of this and charge $5+ a month for COD?

I know they don't for the PC version, but I wouldn't put it past them.

Heard about this back at E3.

Its another one of the WiiU problems, and one that will hurt it allot in regards to 3rd party and core gamer support.

Not having a universal console online system at this point is plain bull *****

Sony's next hanheld has better online support, Nintendo get with the social times

So developers are going to setup their own online networks instead of following something from Nintendo. I'm pretty sure that' a good thing and sounds more like PC online. Hopefully this leads to more dedicated servers and more use of Steamworks.

Online is what I have my PC for.

So developers are going to setup their own online networks instead of following something from Nintendo. I'm pretty sure that' a good thing and sounds more like PC online. Hopefully this leads to more dedicated servers and more use of Steamworks.

ChubbyGuy40

It could be could depending on the developer as there are no standards it could be even worse than the wii.

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So developers are going to setup their own online networks instead of following something from Nintendo. I'm pretty sure that' a good thing and sounds more like PC online. Hopefully this leads to more dedicated servers and more use of Steamworks.

Rude_Bwoii

It could be could depending on the developer as there are no standards it could be even worse than the wii.

bad cod servers confirmed?

This could either go incredibly well, or be a big, big mistake.charizard1605

We're relying on Nintendo to deliver good online by relying on 3rd parties......

Obviously this will go great.8)

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]This could either go incredibly well, or be a big, big mistake.dercoo

We're relying on Nintendo to deliver good online by relying on 3rd parties......

Obviously this will go great.8)

Yeah they talk about making a great system but they leave it up to the 3rd parties.

That doesn't necessarily mean they can't do things like cross-game chat, PC has that. I expect some publishers like Valve or Blizzard might actually offer better experiences on WiiU than they do on XBL, and I expect others like Ubisoft to just do the bare minimum.

The only real problem I see is the convenience factor, it might not be an issue for PC gamers but for console gamers it is. You don't want to input a cd key to play online or create a different log in for every publisher.

It could be could depending on the developer as there are no standards it could be even worse than the wii.

Rude_Bwoii

Why would developers intentionally make it that bad? They never would. It's not like you can get much worse than the horrible online system of CoD.

Not suprized, online has never been apart of nintendo's agenda.

I don't see what the problem is, with no unified platform at least if one games server goes down you still have your other games to fall back on, when PSN went down online gaming was out of the picture.

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It could be could depending on the developer as there are no standards it could be even worse than the wii.

ChubbyGuy40

Why would developers intentionally make it that bad? They never would. It's not like you can get much worse than the horrible online system of CoD.

good sir test drive unlimited 2...especially at launch.

I don't see what the problem is, with no unified platform at least if one games server goes down you still have your other games to fall back on, when PSN went down online gaming was out of the picture.

SapSacPrime

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It could be could depending on the developer as there are no standards it could be even worse than the wii.

ChubbyGuy40

Why would developers intentionally make it that bad? They never would. It's not like you can get much worse than the horrible online system of CoD.

Some small devs just suck at it and some devs don't care. On pc if I like a game I throw some spare parts in a case and make a game server. Then I add mods and maps plus get good players on my server. I don't really need the dev as much as on console. The console is a closed network I can't say open a smash brothers server on the wii and get my friends to play on it.

Now if they let us setup our own game servers on the wii u that would be great.

Nintendo 1st thought onling gaming was a fad and skipped it on the cube. Then finally got some rubbish online with the wii. Now the wii u is letting 3rd parties set up their own online per game on the wii u. This was the same set up the ps2 had where every game had a diffrent log on and diffrent levels of quality. This is what the wii u will be says nintendo.

Nintendo basically is letting 3rd parties do as much or as little online as they want. IMO this is yet more rubbish and what I have come to expect from nintendo. They will be way behind yet again. So thinking about cross game chat or invites not going to happen. Anyway this is the whole interview right here.

Anybody thinking the wii u was going to have even psn level online keep dreaming. The online will be all on the 3rd parties for better or for worse just like back in the ps2 days and IMO that is just sad in a 2012 console. Don't hate on the messenger I only report the news.

Rude_Bwoii

Gotta this superior "Next" gen technology Nintendo is bringing to the table. You can only blame the people who keep buying their products.

Coolyfett

Geeze, waiting to see how the online system works first before putting it down is too much to ask of teh internetz. Gotta love that "next gen" technology Microsoft brought to the table with unacceptable high failure rates and exclusives that aren't even in HD on the HD machine.

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Gotta this superior "Next" gen technology Nintendo is bringing to the table. You can only blame the people who keep buying their products.

ChubbyGuy40

Geeze, waiting to see how the online system works first before putting it down is too much to ask of teh internetz. Gotta love that "next gen" technology Microsoft brought to the table with unacceptable high failure rates and exclusives that aren't even in HD on the HD machine.

*Laughing super hard though Coolyfetts nose* Lol ha ha ha ha ha!!!! The Xbox you say?? Who has an Xbox? Not Coolyfett. ha ha ha nice try though.

Coolyfett

Coolyfett does not play broBox? New found respect!

But seriously we should wait and see what the Wii-U brings before downplaying it.

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*Laughing super hard though Coolyfetts nose* Lol ha ha ha ha ha!!!! The Xbox you say?? Who has an Xbox? Not Coolyfett. ha ha ha nice try though.

ChubbyGuy40

Coolyfett does not play broBox? New found respect!

But seriously we should wait and see what the Wii-U brings before downplaying it.

It is hard to keep a open mind when nintendo says stuff like this after their past history.

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*Laughing super hard though Coolyfetts nose* Lol ha ha ha ha ha!!!! The Xbox you say?? Who has an Xbox? Not Coolyfett. ha ha ha nice try though.

ChubbyGuy40

Coolyfett does not play broBox? New found respect!

But seriously we should wait and see what the Wii-U brings before downplaying it.

Nintendo 1st thought onling gaming was a fad and skipped it on the cube. Then finally got some rubbish online with the wii. Now the wii u is letting 3rd parties set up their own online per game on the wii u. This was the same set up the ps2 had where every game had a diffrent log on and diffrent levels of quality. This is what the wii u will be says nintendo.

Nintendo basically is letting 3rd parties do as much or as little online as they want. IMO this is yet more rubbish and what I have come to expect from nintendo. They will be way behind yet again. So thinking about cross game chat or invites not going to happen. Anyway this is the whole interview right here.

Anybody thinking the wii u was going to have even psn level online keep dreaming. The online will be all on the 3rd parties for better or for worse just like back in the ps2 days and IMO that is just sad in a 2012 console. Don't hate on the messenger I only report the news.

Rude_Bwoii

uninformed and biased, teh best combination is SW.

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Nintendo 1st thought onling gaming was a fad and skipped it on the cube. Then finally got some rubbish online with the wii. Now the wii u is letting 3rd parties set up their own online per game on the wii u. This was the same set up the ps2 had where every game had a diffrent log on and diffrent levels of quality. This is what the wii u will be says nintendo.

Nintendo basically is letting 3rd parties do as much or as little online as they want. IMO this is yet more rubbish and what I have come to expect from nintendo. They will be way behind yet again. So thinking about cross game chat or invites not going to happen. Anyway this is the whole interview right here.

Anybody thinking the wii u was going to have even psn level online keep dreaming. The online will be all on the 3rd parties for better or for worse just like back in the ps2 days and IMO that is just sad in a 2012 console. Don't hate on the messenger I only report the news.

Half-Way

uninformed and biased, teh best combination is SW.

That would be you going by the parts you highlighted.

Thats actually good news in some way, it's same how PS3 online works and how ony plan it, this also opens door for steam on Wii U same as it opened it on PS3 :) Thru Nintendo at least could implement some unified ID system and messages system same as PSN do

Thats actually good news in some way, it's same how PS3 online works and how ony plan it, this also opens door for steam on Wii U same as it opened it on PS3 :) Thru Nintendo at least could implement some unified ID system and messages system same as PSN do

ShadowriverUB

If they add steam to the wii u then it would be great but that is not going to happen. If they let you make your own server that would be great but i doubt that is going to happen either. The net work is nintendo's and they own the platform. The only reason they are letting 3rd parties do the online per game is because they just want to do the online store not the online gaming.

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I don't see what the problem is, with no unified platform at least if one games server goes down you still have your other games to fall back on, when PSN went down online gaming was out of the picture.

tomarlyn

I think at some point all xconsoles will charge for their XBL or whatever they call it for their specific product but personally I think that SSF4 3d works as good online as SSF4 on PS3 if not better(360 it doesn't compare to though).

Welp one less expensive gaming console I have to buy next-gen. Now I can save my money only to spend it on things in life that really matter, like exotic dancers. 8)

At least Sony didn't let hackers steal my personal info during the PS2 days.

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Thats actually good news in some way, it's same how PS3 online works and how ony plan it, this also opens door for steam on Wii U same as it opened it on PS3 :) Thru Nintendo at least could implement some unified ID system and messages system same as PSN do

Rude_Bwoii

If they add steam to the wii u then it would be great but that is not going to happen. If they let you make your own server that would be great but i doubt that is going to happen either. The net work is nintendo's and they own the platform. The only reason they are letting 3rd parties do the online per game is because they just want to do the online store not the online gaming.

No, you think in wrong way, Wii U will have ethernet port and WiFi (probably?) that allows to connect consoel to Internet. Internet is a free network that any device can do the same thing, but yea as a platform owner Nintendo ca nset rules what is allowed or not, they can start there game networking support and order people to use it, like MS do, but thats expensive solution. They may pick Sonys way, that developer can do wahtever htey want with internet connection and they will only provide support services like unified ID and communication, they might do nothing at all.

Reason why Valve actually include Steam in to Portal 2 for PS3 is not because they was thinking that it would be awesome, they been forced to do so, because Sony don;t give any game server support only a unification support. Sony didnt give so they needed to make there own, but what to make another service f they got existing one that is most advance service on PC? Same thing goes to Wii U if they go Sony way with openness, they wuill be forced to use Steam if Nintendo won't give them any server support

Live mixed up people minds about game networks, "online" is not part of console hardware or even software like Live trying to make you think, it's a Internet that you already pay to access to your ISP and you can access service that is inside, it does not need to me platfrom owner to manage it they may allow developers to use there infrastructure that already exists for PC, Steam for example.

It's becoming increasingly difficult to keep an open mind about Wii U. :?

Sigh...my Xbox Silver account makes my 360 collect dust, the Wii has never known internet, don't own a PS3. Looks like PC will be the to go multiplayer system as alwaysGamingcucumber

Lol you guys truly need to learn about how Internet works, if Wii U will allow developer to use internet connections they want.... it will be 100% exact same as PC works :p

Never once did he say that Wii U would be run only by 3rd parties ala PS2 days. This is just another wild assumption bashing thread by Rude_Bwoii regarding the Wii U. Do you honestly think that Nintendo won't have some sort of interface? Some sort of base hub for all your online gaming? There's going to be a shop, therefore, there's probably going to be an account linked to your system (as possibly a master account system that stores all your logins for each publisher under one universal name/id?).

Of course, it's still to early to tell. But saying that the online is "going back to the ps2 days major rubbish ahead" is nonsense until we see exactly how it works.

I could see this going really well, or really awful for Nintendo.

I also say they should be atleast unified ID as PSN have

Sounds a lot like how PC online gaming operates. You just have an agenda against the Wii U which isnt too hard to figure out.