Wii U's 8GB internal storage... brilliant move

This is a great decision, showing that Nintendo want to do what is best for the consumer. Behold (All pricing in New Zealand Dollars):

Console vendor and model, description of part, cheapest price per gig you can get, and the capacity such a drive would have at the lowest price/gig (reference).

Nintendo Wii U, Any external USB Hard Disk, $0.08/GB, 2000GB (reference)

Windows/Mac PC, for n00bs any external USB hard disk, same as the Wii U - $0.08/GB, 2000GB (reference)

Windows/Mac PC, for people who can open them up and put a SATA 3.5 inch in there, $0.07/GB, 2000GB (reference)

Sony Playstation 3, internal laptop hard disk, $0.14/GB, 750GB (reference) Also a comment about the PS3, you can use external drives, not not to install or save to.

Microsoft Xbox 360, requires a proprietary hard disc, $0.41/GB, 320GB (reference)

In conclusion:

• Obviously the technically inclined herms outright win as the internal SATA drive is the most cost effective option.
• A respectable second place to both Nintendo's Wii U and the n00b Herms (or the herms who transport their media place to place without first grabbing a screwdriver).
• Sorry Microsoft, but you did this to yourself, you are right out of touch on price here, losing by a massive margin.
• Sony, well what can I say, they are almost twice the price/GB of Nintendo/Herms here, but they should feel good to 'dominate' the other HD twin.

Nevertheless, the news story I linked at the beginning suggests that Nintendo have planned from the ground up for people to use USB external hard discs for their downloaded retail games from the eShop etc. It just so happens that I have at least one USB hard disk at home just waiting to be utilised, and I have several spare 3.5 inch hard disks I could purchase a 3.5inch external USB enclosure for - I am sorted.

Even if a Wii U adopter needed additional storage and they didn't have anything lying around like yours truly, isn't it great that consumers will be able to accessorise their Wii U with additional storage capacity without paying a superfluous price premium?

And another question, as 8GB of flash memory must cost a massive buyer like Nintendo next to nothing (eg the console's bill of materials doesn't waste money on storage) could we assume that the console will represent exceptional value?

That's what I like about the WiiU.

Doubt I'm going to use a hard drive for it. Chances are, when I pop a 64GB SD card(bringing system mem up to 72GB) in that thing, I won't need any more space.

Nintendo isn't one to knock People off when it comes to storage space.

The Wii was capable of storing 32GB in SD Card storage.

The 3DS is able to do the same and the kicker is that it's not some "New" Media Storage device either, It's a regular any ol' SD card you can get at Walmart and you can transfer the data easily to your Computer with ANY SD card Reader.

Nintendo doesn't Bull Crap when it comes to Media Storage, No "Specific over priced Hard Drive or Memory Stick." just any old SD Card or USB will do.

this might be a good thing since it means DLC won't be as popular on wii u, hopefully less trivial garbage and more put into the game at release. On the otherhand they might not want to make expansion packs as much pushing awesome stuffi into a sequal

Interesting. Will the Wii U support external SSD as well? If so then Wii U may be the first console platform to destroy loading times.

PS: your font colour sucks and is making the text difficult to read.

this might be a good thing since it means DLC won't be as popular on wii u, hopefully less trivial garbage and more put into the game at release. On the otherhand they might not want to make expansion packs as much pushing awesome stuffi into a sequal

savagetwinkie

Interesting. Will the Wii U support external SSD as well? If so then Wii U may be the first console platform to destroy loading times.

PS: your font colour sucks and is making the text difficult to read.

GhoX

I highly doubt it.

Interesting. Will the Wii U support external SSD as well? If so then Wii U may be the first console platform to destroy loading times.

PS: your font colour sucks and is making the text difficult to read.

GhoX

I suppose that if it is an external SSD plugged in by USB 2.0 it will recognise it, but you'd lose top end transfer rates. But of course the SSD should have much lower latency.

Nintendo isn't one to knock People off when it comes to storage space.

The Wii was capable of storing 32GB in SD Card storage.

The 3DS is able to do the same and the kicker is that it's not some "New" Media Storage device either, It's a regular any ol' SD card you can get at Walmart and you can transfer the data easily to your Computer with ANY SD card Reader.

Nintendo doesn't Bull Crap when it comes to Media Storage, No "Specific over priced Hard Drive or Memory Stick." just any old SD Card or USB will do.

LegatoSkyheart

Interesting. Will the Wii U support external SSD as well? If so then Wii U may be the first console platform to destroy loading times.

PS: your font colour sucks and is making the text difficult to read.

GhoX

not sure if it will support Solid State Drives. though I'm certain that if it can be in a USB form it can work, but nothing I'm finding says WHAT can be used.

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"]

this might be a good thing since it means DLC won't be as popular on wii u, hopefully less trivial garbage and more put into the game at release. On the otherhand they might not want to make expansion packs as much pushing awesome stuffi into a sequal

bonesawisready5

[QUOTE="GhoX"]

Interesting. Will the Wii U support external SSD as well? If so then Wii U may be the first console platform to destroy loading times.

PS: your font colour sucks and is making the text difficult to read.

psymon100

not sure if it will support Solid State Drives. though I'm certain that if it can be in a USB form it can work, but nothing I'm finding says WHAT can be used.

LegatoSkyheart

if it's compatible with SDXC cards, the theoretical limit is 2 Terrabytes.

It just sucks that it will probably be USB 2.0 since it's relatively slow for constant HDD access and data movement. If it was USB 3.0 or eSATA, I would have no qualms.

Interesting. Will the Wii U support external SSD as well? If so then Wii U may be the first console platform to destroy loading times.GhoX

Yeah 8GB should be enough (unless games decide to do stupid Battlefield sized patches) for basic use and being able to use so many formats is great, especially SD cards since they're so cheap.bobbetybob

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"]

this might be a good thing since it means DLC won't be as popular on wii u, hopefully less trivial garbage and more put into the game at release. On the otherhand they might not want to make expansion packs as much pushing awesome stuffi into a sequal

bonesawisready5

I'm going to stop you right there.

While most of the Time, in Pokemon, The Special Events aren't "Paid" Events, but I think just about EVERY POKEMON GAME there has been locked content in them.

Mew was the first, you have to do some werid Ritual to get it in Red, Blue, Green, and Yellow.

Silver, Gold, and Crystal have Celebi and you have to Mystery Gift to get it I believe.

Ruby and Sapphire you have to go to a special Pokemon Event to get Deoxys, BUT FOR JIRACHI! YOU HAVE TO HAD PAID FOR IT! Jirachi was a Preorder Bonus for Pokemon Colossuem and another way of getting Jirachi was to play that awful Pokemon Channel game for the Gamecube. There are no other Options except Gameshark or Action Replay for it.

Further more, The DS titles have events too where you have to have a SPECIFIC Legendary to get another Legendary to come out (Shiny Legendary Dog to Zoroark) Victini, Manphany, Shamune, etc, etc.

To say there isn't "On Disc DLC" for freakin' Pokemon is absolutely WRONG. All the Pokemon are in the Game, you just need to go to a special event or download the key to activate the event.

Nintendo just doesn't charge you for it most of the time.

Oh, it supports only 2.0? Hm.. 3.0 has been out for quite awhile.GhoX

If it leads to cheaper pricing on it i think it's a good idea. I will likely just get a 64gb sd card, for around 60 dollars and that will be all i need.

[QUOTE="GhoX"]Interesting. Will the Wii U support external SSD as well? If so then Wii U may be the first console platform to destroy loading times.osan0

It might seem a bit gimped, but look at BF3 on the 360, if you want the top notch graphics you need to install a graphics cache. Look at MGS4 on the PS3, you have to do hard drive installations between levels.

Surely in initial consultation with devs and hardware vendors someone might have come up with solutions to the potential problem you describe? If they didn't, well they should employ someone insightful such as yourself!

[QUOTE="bobbetybob"]Yeah 8GB should be enough (unless games decide to do stupid Battlefield sized patches) for basic use and being able to use so many formats is great, especially SD cards since they're so cheap.PC_Otter

So, it's the same as the 360 Slim 4GB with the ability to use any usb-based storage solution?

WILL OWN A WII U DAY ONE IF i CAN, IF NOT SECOND SHIPMENT

The 3DS can use a 128GB SD card. The Wii U might be able to do that too.

Using a 128GB SD card in your 3DS

The 3DS can use a 128GB SD card. The Wii U might be able to do that too.

Using a 128GB SD card in your 3DS

GameboyTroy

So, it's the same as the 360 Slim 4GB with the ability to use any usb-based storage solution?

gamecubepad

No sir.

Only up to sixteen gigabytes on the 360.

Battlefield 3 will only install its content onto an Xbox 360 HD. Even the Slim's internal memory is no good.

But the good news is, XBLA titles can be stored on flash drives, I assume DLC can too.

psymon100

Forgot about the 16GB limit. nvm.

[QUOTE="GameboyTroy"]

The 3DS can use a 128GB SD card. The Wii U might be able to do that too.

Using a 128GB SD card in your 3DS

MFDOOM1983

But then again why would I? I have purposefully, consistently chosen the best value storage units in each category to make this as fair a comparison as possible. Incidentally, SDHC would be even worse value that MS' Xbox 360 hard disc. Providing storage at $0.53/GB, a 32GB SDHC would be the best value if one were going for an SD card...

(In New Zealand 128GB SDHC's aren't even on the market)

Seeing as how I was able to get through most of this gen with a 360 20 GB HDD (only switched to a 60GB recently), I don't think it will be a problem with a SD card.

[QUOTE="GhoX"]Interesting. Will the Wii U support external SSD as well? If so then Wii U may be the first console platform to destroy loading times.osan0

Huh...I was all set to agree with the TC upon coming into the thread but that's an interesting point.

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

[QUOTE="GameboyTroy"]

The 3DS can use a 128GB SD card. The Wii U might be able to do that too.

Using a 128GB SD card in your 3DS

psymon100

But then again why would I? I have purposefully, consistently chosen the best value storage units in each category to make this as fair a comparison as possible. Incidentally, SDHC would be even worse value that MS' Xbox 360 hard disc. Providing storage at $0.53/GB, a 32GB SDHC would be the best value if one were going for an SD card...

(In New Zealand 128GB SDHC's aren't even on the market)

Seeing as how I was able to get through most of this gen with a 360 20 GB HDD (only switched to a 60GB recently), I don't think it will be a problem with a SD card.

Bigboi500

You can buy a 3rd party 360 HDD or just the enclosure for considerably less money. 320GB HDD for $48. $0.15 per GB. Amazon.comMFDOOM1983

Huh...I was all set to agree with the TC upon coming into the thread but that's an interesting point.The_Game21x

Yeah, I didn't see that coming. He makes a very compelling point.

8gb is honestly a pittance nowadays.

As usual ninty skimp on more aspects, a reccuring trend with Wii U.

guess this is for teh casual crowd that got 4gig 360s but all wii u owners will be casual ;O campzor

[QUOTE="campzor"]guess this is for teh casual crowd that got 4gig 360s but all wii u owners will be casual ;O Bigboi500

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="campzor"]guess this is for teh casual crowd that got 4gig 360s but all wii u owners will be casual ;O campzor

Brilliant move writing in purple/black knowing every1 uses black font.silversix_

Edited because silversix_ had a point to this, but from my perspective of the beige gamespot theme I couldn't see it. Sorry silversix_.

[QUOTE="silversix_"]Brilliant move writing in purple/black knowing every1 uses black font.psymon100

Ah I almost forgot, thank you. I hadn't had my daily dose of irony yet today. Wouldn't want to get low irony levels. Your signature was more colourful than New Super Mario Bros U.

Very hard to be butthurt by an insult when it is executed so poorly.

not really considering a vast amount of us stuck with the black theme.Which is a 100x better looking.

See those 2 little A's beside your profile on the page, and once you go black you'll never go back,its just so much more sleek looking and reminds me of gamespot of days gone by.

not really considering a vast amount of us stuck with the black theme.Which is a 100x better looking.

See those 2 little A's beside your profile on the page, and once you go black you'll never go back,its just so much more sleek looking and reminds me of gamespot of days gone by.

razgriz_101

Thanks!

Now I actually understand why some people were complaining about the fonts. Before, I was clueless because - I never customise anything, so I was on the default theme (which you could see before, in the picture I have since removed). Short story for the most part I just go with the default, so to me the OP text looked crystal clear.

As an apology, I will edit my post. But still, had the topic been approached with less sarcasm by Silversix, I might have taken it more objectively.