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#1 abhirocks198
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1. Sold half of what microsoft did in less then half a year

2.  It is getting non gamers into the game, increasing the number

3. The controller has brougth some fan boys from other consoles over

 

  It will win, or at least take second place

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I sorta agree. It is bringing non gamers into the "war" and the sales are superb, but how long can the hype stay? Yeah the remote is awsome, but what games are coming out in 2007 to attract real gamers to the Wii? I only see Metroid and Mario Galaxy maybe even Pokemon. We'll just have to wait and see.
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I sorta agree. It is bringing non gamers into the "war" and the sales are superb, but how long can the hype stay? Yeah the remote is awsome, but what games are coming out in 2007 to attract real gamers to the Wii? I only see Metroid and Mario Galaxy maybe even Pokemon. We'll just have to wait and see.G-Legend
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[QUOTE="G-Legend"]I sorta agree. It is bringing non gamers into the "war" and the sales are superb, but how long can the hype stay? Yeah the remote is awsome, but what games are coming out in 2007 to attract real gamers to the Wii? I only see Metroid and Mario Galaxy maybe even Pokemon. We'll just have to wait and see.axt113
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I sorta agree. It is bringing non gamers into the "war" and the sales are superb, but how long can the hype stay? Yeah the remote is awsome, but what games are coming out in 2007 to attract real gamers to the Wii? I only see Metroid and Mario Galaxy maybe even Pokemon. We'll just have to wait and see.G-Legend
Super Paper Mario comes out in a week or so. The Paper Mario series is one of the most entertaining RPG series' in gaming, IMO.
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#6 ShakeNBake1491
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Thank you for your input.
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*Lines up for Go Go Random Party Game 10* Woohoo, prepare for the age of random third rate, third party, party games!
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]*Lines up for Go Go Random Party Game 10* Woohoo, prepare for the age of random third rate, third party, party games!

Sure, you're right, but the Wii is still most likely going to win the console war with approachable party games.
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#9 abhirocks198
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Well, SSBB will be awesome, plus having more playable people only boosts the the game.
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#10 wok7
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Yup, but it'll only be #1 sales wise.
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Well, SSBB will be awesome, plus having more playable people only boosts the the game.abhirocks198

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]*Lines up for Go Go Random Party Game 10* Woohoo, prepare for the age of random third rate, third party, party games!

4 or 5 out of the 200 Wii titles out or in development are party games. That's not alot. Second, how do you know they'll be third rate? Sure, the Ubisoft titles have been bad - but look at Madden '07 or Sonic.
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I sorta agree. It is bringing non gamers into the "war" and the sales are superb, but how long can the hype stay? Yeah the remote is awsome, but what games are coming out in 2007 to attract real gamers to the Wii? I only see Metroid and Mario Galaxy maybe even Pokemon. We'll just have to wait and see.G-Legend
didn't mention super smash bros brawl = FAILURE :P
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#14 Mafia17
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I think maybe this year and some of next it will be number 1 but IMO i don't think it will last long after that. Who knows, look at the DS.

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Well, anything's possible. I personally think the Wii will do much better than the GC in terms of sales (and games actually) but I don't expect it to come number 1. I think PS3 will take that spot.
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number 1 in sales probably, but it'll always be a number 2 console to gamers.  A majority of gamers will see their ps3, 360, and/or PC as their main gaming machine.

 

Even if the wii lineup doesn't drastically improve lots of people are still going to buy it just look at the ds it's line up has built pretty slowly over 2 years, yet it's still selling awesome. 

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[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]*Lines up for Go Go Random Party Game 10* Woohoo, prepare for the age of random third rate, third party, party games!

4 or 5 out of the 200 Wii titles out or in development are party games. That's not alot. Second, how do you know they'll be third rate? Sure, the Ubisoft titles have been bad - but look at Madden '07 or Sonic.

It was just a general observation. Right now the overall sales of Wii games are leaning towards the third party casual games whether they be party or otherwise. Its obvious that if thats where moer money is, more developers will be creating those types of games. Consumer reaction = future titles. Its totally fair to say that after judging the consumer reaction to the Wii, we will be seeing LOTS of party games and half-***ed games like Red Steel that will sell well, but not necessarily be that great. Not saying the Wii WON'T have great games, but thats what we can expect.
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Well, anything's possible. I personally think the Wii will do much better than the GC in terms of sales (and games actually) but I don't expect it to come number 1. I think PS3 will take that spot.the-very-best
thats a given. Even nintendo themselves said that if the Wii doesn't do better than the GC..it's an official failure.
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[QUOTE="axt113"][QUOTE="G-Legend"]I sorta agree. It is bringing non gamers into the "war" and the sales are superb, but how long can the hype stay? Yeah the remote is awsome, but what games are coming out in 2007 to attract real gamers to the Wii? I only see Metroid and Mario Galaxy maybe even Pokemon. We'll just have to wait and see.G-Legend

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]*Lines up for Go Go Random Party Game 10* Woohoo, prepare for the age of random third rate, third party, party games!

4 or 5 out of the 200 Wii titles out or in development are party games. That's not alot. Second, how do you know they'll be third rate? Sure, the Ubisoft titles have been bad - but look at Madden '07 or Sonic.

It was just a general observation. Right now the overall sales of Wii games are leaning towards the third party casual games whether they be party or otherwise. Its obvious that if thats where moer money is, more developers will be creating those types of games. Consumer reaction = future titles. Its totally fair to say that after judging the consumer reaction to the Wii, we will be seeing LOTS of party games and half-***ed games like Red Steel that will sell well, but not necessarily be that great. Not saying the Wii WON'T have great games, but thats what we can expect.

You know Red Steel only sold about 350k units, right? That's not remarkable, by any means. Honestly, the Wii has only been out for 4 months - and we haven't seen enough 3rd party titles to make assumptions about future trends.
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[QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]*Lines up for Go Go Random Party Game 10* Woohoo, prepare for the age of random third rate, third party, party games!

4 or 5 out of the 200 Wii titles out or in development are party games. That's not alot. Second, how do you know they'll be third rate? Sure, the Ubisoft titles have been bad - but look at Madden '07 or Sonic.

It was just a general observation. Right now the overall sales of Wii games are leaning towards the third party casual games whether they be party or otherwise. Its obvious that if thats where moer money is, more developers will be creating those types of games. Consumer reaction = future titles. Its totally fair to say that after judging the consumer reaction to the Wii, we will be seeing LOTS of party games and half-***ed games like Red Steel that will sell well, but not necessarily be that great. Not saying the Wii WON'T have great games, but thats what we can expect.

You know Red Steel only sold about 350k units, right? That's not remarkable, by any means. Honestly, the Wii has only been out for 4 months - and we haven't seen enough 3rd party titles to make assumptions about future trends.

Thats actually quite respectable considering the general critic reaction to the game. Its probably one of the proportionally best selling games in relation to score -> gross sales. Its a flag that people can make half ***ed games on the Wii, and still sell relatively well.
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="HeedleGlavin"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]*Lines up for Go Go Random Party Game 10* Woohoo, prepare for the age of random third rate, third party, party games!

4 or 5 out of the 200 Wii titles out or in development are party games. That's not alot. Second, how do you know they'll be third rate? Sure, the Ubisoft titles have been bad - but look at Madden '07 or Sonic.

It was just a general observation. Right now the overall sales of Wii games are leaning towards the third party casual games whether they be party or otherwise. Its obvious that if thats where moer money is, more developers will be creating those types of games. Consumer reaction = future titles. Its totally fair to say that after judging the consumer reaction to the Wii, we will be seeing LOTS of party games and half-***ed games like Red Steel that will sell well, but not necessarily be that great. Not saying the Wii WON'T have great games, but thats what we can expect.

You know Red Steel only sold about 350k units, right? That's not remarkable, by any means. Honestly, the Wii has only been out for 4 months - and we haven't seen enough 3rd party titles to make assumptions about future trends.

Thats actually quite respectable considering the general critic reaction to the game. Its probably one of the proportionally best selling games in relation to score -> gross sales. Its a flag that people can make half ***ed games on the Wii, and still sell relatively well.

Well, there are other factors to consider. Alot of people don't look at online reviews, firstly. Second, Red Steel was the only FPS launch title on a system seemingly tailored to the FPS genre. Honestly, I don't think we'd see a Red Steel 2 sell nearly as well.
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1. Sold half of what microsoft did in less then half a year

2.  It is getting non gamers into the game, increasing the number

3. The controller has brougth some fan boys from other consoles over

 

  It will win, or at least take second place

abhirocks198
you seem so proud of these numbers. you must own Nintendo or at least have stock in it. if you dont these stats must do something else for you. is it that your proud that you chose the Wii over a whole 2 other systems and have this information to support it. Im glad not everyone has a 360. it keeps the gamers segregated from the Toys R Us shoppers. keep the boys with their toys and maybe when you are older mommy can buy you a PS3 if your good. I like the Wii, just not you and who cares if it "wins".
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I think maybe this year and some of next it will be number 1 but IMO i don't think it will last long after that. Who knows, look at the DS.

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#25 axt113
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Well, anything's possible. I personally think the Wii will do much better than the GC in terms of sales (and games actually) but I don't expect it to come number 1. I think PS3 will take that spot.the-very-best
Not without some massive price drops
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#26 abhirocks198
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Ps3 WILL not take the number 1 slot.  How can it, when it's 600 fricking bucks. The ps2 was not only successuful because it had god games, byt that it was cheap.  The games are also 60 dollars, so yeah.  Right now it sucks, I hope that that changes in the future.  Her's hoping8)
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#27 axt113
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[QUOTE="abhirocks198"]

1. Sold half of what microsoft did in less then half a year

2.  It is getting non gamers into the game, increasing the number

3. The controller has brougth some fan boys from other consoles over

 

  It will win, or at least take second place

joeblofromidaho
you seem so proud of these numbers. you must own Nintendo or at least have stock in it. if you dont these stats must do something else for you. is it that your proud that you chose the Wii over a whole 2 other systems and have this information to support it. Im glad not everyone has a 360. it keeps the gamers segregated from the Toys R Us shoppers. keep the boys with their toys and maybe when you are older mommy can buy you a PS3 if your good. I like the Wii, just not you and who cares if it "wins".

Well high sales leads to Dev support which leads to games which makes investements in the console worthwhile
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[QUOTE="joeblofromidaho"][QUOTE="abhirocks198"]

1. Sold half of what microsoft did in less then half a year

2.  It is getting non gamers into the game, increasing the number

3. The controller has brougth some fan boys from other consoles over

 

  It will win, or at least take second place

axt113
you seem so proud of these numbers. you must own Nintendo or at least have stock in it. if you dont these stats must do something else for you. is it that your proud that you chose the Wii over a whole 2 other systems and have this information to support it. Im glad not everyone has a 360. it keeps the gamers segregated from the Toys R Us shoppers. keep the boys with their toys and maybe when you are older mommy can buy you a PS3 if your good. I like the Wii, just not you and who cares if it "wins".

Well high sales leads to Dev support which leads to games which makes investements in the console worthwhile

thanks for the math lesson. i didnt understand how a business worked.
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#29 abhirocks198
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I DO NOT have a stock in Nintendo.  I used to be a Sony fanboy, byt the ps3 changed my mind, and I bougth a Wii instead.

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oh so sorry, i just pictured your chest out while you were writing this thread.
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Wii has a lot going for it and if Nintendo is smart they'll have a very open policy of letting developers build content for their system. Though Nintendo usually has some demands which are a good thing. I'm not much of a console gamer anymore but then bottom line is to keep this up they need a Wii Sportsish casual game every 6 months minimum. WIi Sports, maybe Wario Ware, and Wii Play are a decent start, Mario Party will be a great addition, but consisnte simplistic fun is all they need. Obviously Mario Vs. Sonic should have that. Easy, enjoyable (it seems) development of games should entice the content makers and a steady flow of successful games using the DS formula should do it.
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If the Wii becomes the sales juggernaut most are predicting it'll become (I think it will too) neccesarily 3rd party will flock to the Wii. But this dosen't mean we are gonna see only below average games and minigame collections. We will OBVIOUSLY see quite a lot of them now and in the inmmediate future but when people start voting with their dollars a high quality "Alpha Party game" will get the most sales and probably dominate that segment. This will probably become true in most other segments as well. With only the games that match any of this characteristics achieving remarkable sales: 1. Really good game. 2. Really Appealing game. 3. Really Unique game. 4. Hyped to the moon game.

What I'm saying don't assume that because bad games like Red Steel sell well, it means Wii owners will gobble up any kind of crap. We will gobble up the best games (and the most unique or appealing) in each segment. Red Steel its a unique FPS that is very appealing (don't deny it, you want a sword battle), was hyped quite a bit and had no real competition. Hence the good sales. Pitch up Red Steel against "Awesome, appealing, hyped, unique unexistant FPS" and you'll see RedSteel flop like it should and the other succeed just as it should.

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It quite possibly could.  It appleals to a different market than the Xbox 360 and PS3 which is its trump card.  It's going to be the biggy back system.

Personally I can't see the Wii as the primary system in any true gamers collection.  The games just won't be there.  It has to be completmented by another system.

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#35 axt113
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It quite possibly could.  It appleals to a different market than the Xbox 360 and PS3 which is its trump card.  It's going to be the biggy back system.

Personally I can't see the Wii as the primary system in any true gamers collection.  The games just won't be there.  It has to be completmented by another system.

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It quite possibly could. It appleals to a different market than the Xbox 360 and PS3 which is its trump card. It's going to be the biggy back system.

Personally I can't see the Wii as the primary system in any true gamers collection. The games just won't be there. It has to be completmented by another system.

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Not to mention it targets people that don't normally play games. If it can succeed in that, it'll get a market of it's own.
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[QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"]

It quite possibly could.  It appleals to a different market than the Xbox 360 and PS3 which is its trump card.  It's going to be the biggy back system.

Personally I can't see the Wii as the primary system in any true gamers collection.  The games just won't be there.  It has to be completmented by another system.

axt113

The system with the sales gets the games

Not if the system with the most sales is inferior spec wise.

Many devs cannot develope the type of games they want because of this.  Wii only owners must deal with this.  The vast majority of the games this gen will be Xbox/PS3.  Halo 3, Orange Box, Mass Effect, FF 13, MGS4, GTA4, ect will not be on the Wii due to technical limits. 

I'm not bashing the Wii at all, it's just something the system has to come to terms with.

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right now the Wii is like a giant turd that wont flush.  this clog is a little out of Marios hands.  hey i still love swinging that remote around looking like a fool just as much as the next guy.  more power to ya Nintendo.

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[QUOTE="axt113"][QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"]

It quite possibly could.  It appleals to a different market than the Xbox 360 and PS3 which is its trump card.  It's going to be the biggy back system.

Personally I can't see the Wii as the primary system in any true gamers collection.  The games just won't be there.  It has to be completmented by another system.

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The system with the sales gets the games

Not if the system with the most sales is inferior spec wise.

Many devs cannot develope the type of games they want because of this.  Wii only owners must deal with this.  The vast majority of the games this gen will be Xbox/PS3.  Halo 3, Orange Box, Mass Effect, FF 13, MGS4, GTA4, ect will not be on the Wii due to technical limits. 

I'm not bashing the Wii at all, it's just something the system has to come to terms with.

That's BS, nope inferior graphics aren't the breaking point, look at the games on the DS, look at DQ 9 going exclusive to the DS, the DS doesn't have massive graphics but its getting the games, Graphics matter only up to a point. The only reason the 360 and the PS3 are getting those games is due to the fact that the development began before the Wii launched, now that Wii is in the drivers's seat and looks to overtake the 360, devs are going to shif t to the Wii, we can see it now, recent announcements have been for the Wii
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[QUOTE="axt113"][QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"]

It quite possibly could. It appleals to a different market than the Xbox 360 and PS3 which is its trump card. It's going to be the biggy back system.

Personally I can't see the Wii as the primary system in any true gamers collection. The games just won't be there. It has to be completmented by another system.

Donkey_Puncher

The system with the sales gets the games

Not if the system with the most sales is inferior spec wise.

Many devs cannot develope the type of games they want because of this. Wii only owners must deal with this. The vast majority of the games this gen will be Xbox/PS3. Halo 3, Orange Box, Mass Effect, FF 13, MGS4, GTA4, ect will not be on the Wii due to technical limits.

I'm not bashing the Wii at all, it's just something the system has to come to terms with.

That's really not the case. Devs can't do what they "want" to do, they have to do what they're told. Unless they don't want to remain a company, anymore.
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#41 Donkey_Puncher
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That's BS, nope inferior graphics aren't the breaking point, look at the games on the DS, look at DQ 9 going exclusive to the DS, the DS doesn't have massive graphics but its getting the games, Graphics matter only up to a point. The only reason the 360 and the PS3 are getting those games is due to the fact that the development began before the Wii launched, now that Wii is in the drivers's seat and looks to overtake the 360, devs are going to shif t to the Wii, we can see it now, recent announcements have been for the Wiiaxt113

It's technical limits are it's breaking point.  It's pretty obvious.  The Wii's strong point isn't it's hardware.:|

Games are getting bigger budgets, and many studios are trying to push new technology such as physics, AI, and Graphics.  All of these are getting more complex and require stronger machines. 

Games like Oblivion and Gears are astonishingly great games that wouldn't be possible on the Wii because of this.  Therefore, the Wii will lack many games along these lines that are coming out like I mentioned before. 

Personally, Wii only owners will be missing out on the majority of great games this gen.  Like I said before, the Wii is targeting a slightly different audience, mainly non-gamers and casuals.  The Vast success of the Wii won't impact the sales of the Xbox 360 and the PS3 simply because people will still need the systems to play GTA4, Halo 3, MGS4, Final Fantasy, ect.

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#42 Donkey_Puncher
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That's really not the case. Devs can't do what they "want" to do, they have to do what they're told. Unless they don't want to remain a company, anymore.austinjg

Technology will always advance as will gaming techniques.  The Wii will not change this. 

Two different audiences are being targeted here.  The Success of the Wii won't have a huge impact on the sales of the Xbox 360 and the PS3.

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[QUOTE="axt113"] That's BS, nope inferior graphics aren't the breaking point, look at the games on the DS, look at DQ 9 going exclusive to the DS, the DS doesn't have massive graphics but its getting the games, Graphics matter only up to a point. The only reason the 360 and the PS3 are getting those games is due to the fact that the development began before the Wii launched, now that Wii is in the drivers's seat and looks to overtake the 360, devs are going to shif t to the Wii, we can see it now, recent announcements have been for the WiiDonkey_Puncher

It's technical limits are it's breaking point.  It's pretty obvious.  The Wii's strong point isn't it's hardware.:|

Games are getting bigger budgets, and many studios are trying to push new technology such as physics, AI, and Graphics.  All of these are getting more complex and require stronger machines. 

Games like Oblivion and Gears are astonishingly great games that wouldn't be possible on the Wii because of this.  Therefore, the Wii will lack many games along these lines that are coming out like I mentioned before. 

Personally, Wii only owners will be missing out on the majority of great games this gen.  Like I said before, the Wii is targeting a slightly different audience, mainly non-gamers and casuals.  The Vast success of the Wii won't impact the sales of the Xbox 360 and the PS3 simply because people will still need the systems to play GTA4, Halo 3, MGS4, Final Fantasy, ect.

That's only because they feel the need to pump the most out of the graphics, on the Wii that's not an issue, you don't need to spend a fortune in graphics, instead you can create good gaphics, but focus on the gamplay. No Oblivion and Gears are possible, but not in their current incarnations, you'd have to go with a different engine, and lesser graphics but you coud still make a great game, Wii is much more powerful than a GCN or a PS2 and even more powerful than the original Xbox so any game possible there is possible on the Wii, you can do something better than FF12, or GoW 2, or TP Not as the gen goes on, as the gen goes on Wii will be getting the lions share of the support, you'll see the DQ's, the Nights, and the others all come to the Wii
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That's only because they feel the need to pump the most out of the graphics, on the Wii that's not an issue, you don't need to spend a fortune in graphics, instead you can create good gaphics, but focus on the gamplay. No Oblivion and Gears are possible, but not in their current incarnations, you'd have to go with a different engine, and lesser graphics but you coud still make a great game, Wii is much more powerful than a GCN or a PS2 and even more powerful than the original Xbox so any game possible there is possible on the Wii, you can do something better than FF12, or GoW 2, or TP Not as the gen goes on, as the gen goes on Wii will be getting the lions share of the support, you'll see the DQ's, the Nights, and the others all come to the Wiiaxt113

The Wii is far behind the Xbox 360 and PS3 hardware wise meaning that the games between them and Wii will be vastly different.  Because of this, they are targeting a different audience, and only owning a Wii means missing out on the biggest games of the generation, and Vice versa.

That's what I'm saying.  Devs aren't jumping at the Wii like wild dogs because many studios want to creat games that just aren't possible on the Wii.  The Wii will be filled with all the Nintendo big sellers, however the rest will be best on the others. 

The Wii will be the largest seller this gen because of this, and the fact that it's cheaper as well.

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i can't firggen wait for metroid!
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#46 axt113
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[QUOTE="axt113"] That's only because they feel the need to pump the most out of the graphics, on the Wii that's not an issue, you don't need to spend a fortune in graphics, instead you can create good gaphics, but focus on the gamplay. No Oblivion and Gears are possible, but not in their current incarnations, you'd have to go with a different engine, and lesser graphics but you coud still make a great game, Wii is much more powerful than a GCN or a PS2 and even more powerful than the original Xbox so any game possible there is possible on the Wii, you can do something better than FF12, or GoW 2, or TP Not as the gen goes on, as the gen goes on Wii will be getting the lions share of the support, you'll see the DQ's, the Nights, and the others all come to the WiiDonkey_Puncher

The Wii is far behind the Xbox 360 and PS3 hardware wise meaning that the games between them and Wii will be vastly different.  Because of this, they are targeting a different audience, and only owning a Wii means missing out on the biggest games of the generation, and Vice versa.

That's what I'm saying.  Devs aren't jumping at the Wii like wild dogs because many studios want to creat games that just aren't possible on the Wii.  The Wii will be filled with all the Nintendo big sellers, however the rest will be best on the others. 

The Wii will be the largest seller this gen because of this, and the fact that it's cheaper as well.

No not all are jumping yet, but some are, and more will come, especially as the marketshare goes to Wii, look regardless of what you may think, a dev is in it for the money first and foremost, and if a console gives them the best chance to make money that's where they are going to go, even if the graphics are less, they'll just rework the games so they use a weaker engine, Wii won't be getting the multiplats that the 360 and PS3 will get but it will get the exclusives that they won't have, and as time goes on those exclusives will outnumber the multiplats, and yeah you'll see the big games on the Wii, and fewer on the PS3 and 360, the ones o the PS3 and 360 might look nice, but just like with the GCN you'll get periods of drought between those pretty games
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[QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"][QUOTE="axt113"] That's only because they feel the need to pump the most out of the graphics, on the Wii that's not an issue, you don't need to spend a fortune in graphics, instead you can create good gaphics, but focus on the gamplay. No Oblivion and Gears are possible, but not in their current incarnations, you'd have to go with a different engine, and lesser graphics but you coud still make a great game, Wii is much more powerful than a GCN or a PS2 and even more powerful than the original Xbox so any game possible there is possible on the Wii, you can do something better than FF12, or GoW 2, or TP Not as the gen goes on, as the gen goes on Wii will be getting the lions share of the support, you'll see the DQ's, the Nights, and the others all come to the Wiiaxt113

The Wii is far behind the Xbox 360 and PS3 hardware wise meaning that the games between them and Wii will be vastly different.  Because of this, they are targeting a different audience, and only owning a Wii means missing out on the biggest games of the generation, and Vice versa.

That's what I'm saying.  Devs aren't jumping at the Wii like wild dogs because many studios want to creat games that just aren't possible on the Wii.  The Wii will be filled with all the Nintendo big sellers, however the rest will be best on the others. 

The Wii will be the largest seller this gen because of this, and the fact that it's cheaper as well.

No not all are jumping yet, but some are, and more will come, especially as the marketshare goes to Wii, look regardless of what you may think, a dev is in it for the money first and foremost, and if a console gives them the best chance to make money that's where they are going to go, even if the graphics are less, they'll just rework the games so they use a weaker engine, Wii won't be getting the multiplats that the 360 and PS3 will get but it will get the exclusives that they won't have, and as time goes on those exclusives will outnumber the multiplats, and yeah you'll see the big games on the Wii, and fewer on the PS3 and 360, the ones o the PS3 and 360 might look nice, but just like with the GCN you'll get periods of drought between those pretty games

The Xbox 360 and PS3 will not be having the droughts.  There will be far more games on those than the Wii.  It'll be the other way around.

The Wii has the worst 3rd party support.

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It quite possibly could.  It appleals to a different market than the Xbox 360 and PS3 which is its trump card.  It's going to be the biggy back system.

Personally I can't see the Wii as the primary system in any true gamers collection.  The games just won't be there.  It has to be completmented by another system.

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lol. "It may be #1 in sales, but it'll never be #1 in my heart." The bottom line is this: If Wii dominates the market by selling the most, it will receive the most software support. Seriously. A Wii owner will miss fewer exclusives than someone who owns an Xbox 360 and a PS3.
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[QUOTE="axt113"][QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"][QUOTE="axt113"] That's only because they feel the need to pump the most out of the graphics, on the Wii that's not an issue, you don't need to spend a fortune in graphics, instead you can create good gaphics, but focus on the gamplay. No Oblivion and Gears are possible, but not in their current incarnations, you'd have to go with a different engine, and lesser graphics but you coud still make a great game, Wii is much more powerful than a GCN or a PS2 and even more powerful than the original Xbox so any game possible there is possible on the Wii, you can do something better than FF12, or GoW 2, or TP Not as the gen goes on, as the gen goes on Wii will be getting the lions share of the support, you'll see the DQ's, the Nights, and the others all come to the WiiDonkey_Puncher

The Wii is far behind the Xbox 360 and PS3 hardware wise meaning that the games between them and Wii will be vastly different.  Because of this, they are targeting a different audience, and only owning a Wii means missing out on the biggest games of the generation, and Vice versa.

That's what I'm saying.  Devs aren't jumping at the Wii like wild dogs because many studios want to creat games that just aren't possible on the Wii.  The Wii will be filled with all the Nintendo big sellers, however the rest will be best on the others. 

The Wii will be the largest seller this gen because of this, and the fact that it's cheaper as well.

No not all are jumping yet, but some are, and more will come, especially as the marketshare goes to Wii, look regardless of what you may think, a dev is in it for the money first and foremost, and if a console gives them the best chance to make money that's where they are going to go, even if the graphics are less, they'll just rework the games so they use a weaker engine, Wii won't be getting the multiplats that the 360 and PS3 will get but it will get the exclusives that they won't have, and as time goes on those exclusives will outnumber the multiplats, and yeah you'll see the big games on the Wii, and fewer on the PS3 and 360, the ones o the PS3 and 360 might look nice, but just like with the GCN you'll get periods of drought between those pretty games

The Xbox 360 and PS3 will not be having the droughts.  There will be far more games on those than the Wii.  It'll be the other way around.

The Wii has the worst 3rd party support.

Actually Wii third party support is getting stronger, you notice that the games are being announced for Wii now, like I said the third party games that were announced for PS3 and 360 were in development before the Wii was launched, before devs knew it would be a huge success, now that's shifting, and you'll start to see that it'll be Wii that gets most of the support, and Ps3 and 360 less
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#50 Donkey_Puncher
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lol. "It may be #1 in sales, but it'll never be #1 in my heart." The bottom line is this: If Wii dominates the market by selling the most, it will receive the most software support. Seriously. A Wii owner will miss fewer exclusives than someone who owns an Xbox 360 and a PS3.Iyethar

I beg to differ.  The Wii will have the worst 3rd party support of them all, not to mention they will miss out on every 1st party MS and Sony game.  That's not even including the PC either.

Many games that will go Multiplat on the 360, PS3, and PC simply can't be done on the Wii.  UT3, Mass Effect, Bioshock, DMC4, RE5, GTA4, ect. 

The only missing games by not having a Wii will be Nintendo's big hitter franchises and a select few second party games.