Wii WILL NOT get major 3rd party support NO MATTER how big the install base!

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#1 Ahammer80
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Simply because all the major Devs that make high end games would be very limited with the Wii hardware. I mean lol, just imagine Epic trying to make a game for the Wii. Even if it had the install base of the PS2, a lot of Major 3rd party Devs still couldnt make great games for the wii because the hardware is just not powerful enough. Games like Ghost recon, splinter cell and lost planet could not be done on the wii. Bottom line is just because the wii will have a huge install base doesnt mean they will get major 3rd party dev support. Devs also take into consideration the hardware.  Even if ubi soft or capcom makes games for the wii, they definitly wouldnt be as good as ghost recon or lost planet
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#2 E_x_i_l_e
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Wii is going to suffer with their 3rd party support.. most developers are focusing on much bigger projects for 360/PS3, also, they'd have to find new ways to implement the wii mote or else its just going to be the same old wand swinging >_> i had a neat idea for a Starfox Wii ._.
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#3 youngtongue
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devs can make games specifically for the wii...take spiderman 3 for example apparently its different story or something then what it will be for the 360 and ps3.
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Simply because all the major Devs that make high end games would be very limited with the Wii hardware. I mean lol, just imagine Epic trying to make a game for the Wii. Even if it had the install base of the PS2, a lot of Major 3rd party Devs still couldnt make great games for the wii because the hardware is just not powerful enough. Games like Ghost recon, splinter cell and lost planet could not be done on the wii. Bottom line is just because the wii will have a huge install base doesnt mean they will get major 3rd party dev support. Devs also take into consideration the hardware.  Even if ubi soft or capcom makes games for the wii, they definitly wouldnt be as good as ghost recon or lost planet Ahammer80
And alot of devs can't design on the PS3 because its too expensive. Wouldn't be as good, why is that? I am sorry but your opinion isn't fact, sir. Lost Planet is one of my favorite games, yet I am excited for games like No More Heroes.
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#5 foxhound_fox
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Funny... there seems to be a lot of third party devs interested in the Wii... they are begging Nintendo for dev kits.
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#6 LINKloco
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What's new? It'll be getting other types of games and exclusive titles made for it.
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#7 Flipnblack
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Oh jesus, this is just sad...
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#8 Virus214
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and ? nintendo survived last gen solely on first party for a worse.. way worse system... so your point is ?
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#9 metroidman7_11
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if the reason for your topic is the power of the Wii, why are devs taking the time to create original titles for it?  even last gen why did they take the time to create epic games if the hardware was so bad??

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#10 Hoffgod
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Of course they take hardware into consideration. But the Wii is more powerful than last gen hardware. And guess what? Splinter Cell was on the GameCube (and also on the Wii, but that's not worth mentioning, really). Ghost Recon 1 & 2 were on the GameCube. And I'm sure Lost Planet could be made just as easily for the Wii as for the 360, if not easier due to the less complex and more familiar hardware architecture. And also, companies go where the money is.
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#11 RahnAetas
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So all the non-major 3rd party developers won't be developing on the Wii? I don't know about that.  Seems a lot of them are expressing interest on developing for the Wii.
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#12 goblaa
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If all those high-end devs have been making games on the xbox for the last 5 years, what's stopping them from making games for the wii? And what's stopping these devs from doing what EA is doing?
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yep some thrid parties are developing stuff for wii, but of what quality?
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#14 kingsy_the_one
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Where there's sales, there's Devs..
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#15 goblaa
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What are high end devs porting games to handhelds like ninja gaiden and dragon quest?
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#16 Idonomeus
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If it has a larger install base then PS3 and 360 combined then it will get more 3rd party support. If not developers will continue to make multiplats for 360/PS3 because of their similar hardware. At this point they can also multiplat to PC with 360 and PS3. It could happen but the Wii really will have to sell a lot of units for it to get the best 3rd party support.
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#17 Flipnblack
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yep some thrid parties are developing stuff for wii, but of what quality?Gears360
I dunno, No More Heroes, Opoona, Dewy's Adventure, and Resident Evil would come down to personal preference, but seems pretty solid to me.
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#18 2FacedJanus
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Just look to the DS to see what wil happen to the Wii.... the Wii will be the toilet for publishers, only few devs apart from nintendo will be able to put some good stuff on it.
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#19 Teuf_
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The programmers and artists working for the major developers have already spent alot of time (and therefore money) on making themselves ready for real next-gen hardware.  It would be a huge waste of money to suddenly tell them all "oh sorry, you have to work on the Wii and make games with last-gen graphics and assets." 

And for people saying that lots of third-parties are interested in making titles for Wii...I have yet to see any big third-party games announced.   

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#20 Ultimate_Peon
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Blah blah blah, devs will go for the most advanced hardware because blah blah blah. Devs will go for the Wii because blah blah blah. Anyone notice how this basically exact topic has already been talked about numerous times?
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#21 RogerC44
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I already know this yeah they are gonna have some 3rd party support but not like the 360 and PS3.
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#22 pundog
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Considering the Wii has more or less sold twice as many units as the PS3 and is roughly half way to catching the 360 in about 5 months, I don't see any 3rd party developers not supporting the Wii. As of right now it looks like the Wii will take and keep 1st place, and since you obviously have no knowledge of economics, here's the basic reason why the Wii will have great 3rd party support. More Wiis mean more consumers for Wii games, more consumers mean more sales, more sales means more money. And last time I checked, EA, Ubi, Take 2 etc. like money.
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#23 Ultimate_Peon
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Out of curiosity, what was the last "big" game announced for any of the consoles?
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Simply because all the major Devs that make high end games would be very limited with the Wii hardware. I mean lol, just imagine Epic trying to make a game for the Wii. Even if it had the install base of the PS2, a lot of Major 3rd party Devs still couldnt make great games for the wii because the hardware is just not powerful enough. Games like Ghost recon, splinter cell and lost planet could not be done on the wii. Bottom line is just because the wii will have a huge install base doesnt mean they will get major 3rd party dev support. Devs also take into consideration the hardware. Even if ubi soft or capcom makes games for the wii, they definitly wouldnt be as good as ghost recon or lost planet Ahammer80

Sorry, but you're absolutely wrong.

Bigger install base = more game developers, without question.

The DS isn't a powerful system and yet... it has more developers than the PSP.

I'm glad I could clear that up for you.

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Simply because all the major Devs that make high end games would be very limited with the Wii hardware. I mean lol, just imagine Epic trying to make a game for the Wii. Even if it had the install base of the PS2, a lot of Major 3rd party Devs still couldnt make great games for the wii because the hardware is just not powerful enough. Games like Ghost recon, splinter cell and lost planet could not be done on the wii. Bottom line is just because the wii will have a huge install base doesnt mean they will get major 3rd party dev support. Devs also take into consideration the hardware.  Even if ubi soft or capcom makes games for the wii, they definitly wouldnt be as good as ghost recon or lost planet Ahammer80
Actually you are waaaay off. Devs are limited with the PS3 and 360 cos they dont bring anything knew to the table. it's more large and pretty but ends there but with the way it has huuge potential and 3rd party devs are starting to see it (play Godfather and you wont be able to play it on another console).
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#26 pundog
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Out of curiousity, what was the last "big" game announced for any of the consoles?Ultimate_Peon
DMC 4 for 360?
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and ? nintendo survived last gen solely on first party for a worse.. way worse system... so your point is ?Virus214
good point
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#28 Ultimate_Peon
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[QUOTE="Ultimate_Peon"]Out of curiousity, what was the last "big" game announced for any of the consoles?pundog
DMC 4 for 360?

Eh, I was thinking more of a new game being announced rather than one already known going multiplatform.
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#29 coreygames
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Innovation comes through limitation, not imitation and saturation.
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#30 Iyethar
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Developers don't get to choose what hardware games get published on.  Publishers do.  If Wii has the biggest install base and publishers can make the most profit from Wii games, Wii will get the most software support. 
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And also, companies go where the money is.Hoffgod

Seriously, that is all that needs to be said.

It's ridiculous to claim that devs will ignore the Wii's massive userbase.

EDIT: The only question is will the devs be lazy like Ubisoft and go for the quick cash or will they try to develop high quality titles? 

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#32 coreygames
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Developers don't get to choose what hardware games get published on.  Publishers do.  If Wii has the biggest install base and publishers can make the most profit from Wii games, Wii will get the most software support.  Iyethar
Wow, I'm amazed that someone here understands the constraints that publishers put on devs.. Plus, devs. really need to go where all the money is anyway because they only see a fraction of the profit that comes froma project.
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#33 Ultimate_Peon
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[QUOTE="Hoffgod"]

And also, companies go where the money is.the-very-best

Seriously, that is all that needs to be said.

It's ridiculous to claim that devs will ignore the Wii's massive userbase.

EDIT: The only question is will the devs be lazy like Ubisoft and go for the quick cash or will they try to develop high quality titles? 

Then you start getting into market forces. If lots of developers start making Wii games the competition will drive at least some to up their game as they strive against each other for more sales. Then you'll always get some who will make a game on one (or both) of the other consoles to avoid all the competition present on the highest selling system. And of course then there's other considerations.