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Might not be a problem if their optical drive is really fast. (so no need to install)
Although I'm not sure what the hell that means for their downloadable market. Will they have a REALLY rediculously small size limit for their games again - such that hardly any developers can be bothered to squeeze their games under Nintendo's set limit?
Does this eliminate DLC? Not that discouraging DLC is a bad thing.
[QUOTE="linkyshinks"]The bad news just keeps pouring in a like a river with this console... According to TIME magazine's tech division: http://www.gameplox.com/2012/06/07/wii-u-has-8-gb-of-internal-storage/NeoStar9This has been rumored for over a year. It's not a problem since 32GB SD cards are pretty cheap. Also you can use external hard drives. This isn't a problem. It should keep cost down when it comes to buying the system. Those that want more space will just have to pay for it. Those that don't and won't use it won't .Simple.
Never tried it, but (without hacking) can you actually run games directly off the SD card or external USB on the Wii? Wouldn't that be far inferior in terms of speed and loading to running off the HDD?
Might not be a problem if their optical drive is really fast.
Although I'm not sure what the hell that means for their downloadable market. Will they have a REALLY rediculously small size limit for their games again - such that hardly any developers can be bothered to squeeze their games under Nintendo's set limit?
Does this eliminate DLC? Not that discouraging DLC is a bad thing.
2Chalupas
MS and Sony both launched their consoles with low capacity HDDs.
As time went on MS and Sony took notice of how important digital media is today whether it be music, movies, or games.
Now, on the shelf at the store, we can find PS3s and 360s with 160/250/320gb hard drives.
And now Nintendo wants to release a console with 8gb of space? That's lower than either the PS3 or 360 launched with!
What we can safely say, if this is true, is that Nintendo has decided to not care at all about digital games, or other media, with the Wii U.
So does a console that doesnt do HD in 2012. The Wii.8gb in 2012?
Sounds like a stupid decision to me.
Raymundo_Manuel
Yea why is this a bad thing? They've already said you can use USB storage and SD.
I'd rather have it flash anyway than a hard drive personally.
A 32GB USB drive or SD card can be had for like $30 or so and that's if you want to go flash.
I see this as a good thing if anything. The 3DS already is doing this, I thought people knew about it already.
This isn't the Wii but the Wii U. I'm going to assume running games of the SD cards and the external hard drives aren't going to be a problem for the Wii U. The 3DS runs all its downloadable games off the SD cards in the system. Will be the same for the full retail games that get downloaded to the 3DS. If they made it work there without any issues don't see why they couldn't make it work on the Wii U.
This simply gives you more options and possibly a lower price for the hardware itself.
[QUOTE="2Chalupas"]
Might not be a problem if their optical drive is really fast.
Although I'm not sure what the hell that means for their downloadable market. Will they have a REALLY rediculously small size limit for their games again - such that hardly any developers can be bothered to squeeze their games under Nintendo's set limit?
Does this eliminate DLC? Not that discouraging DLC is a bad thing.
Raymundo_Manuel
MS and Sony both launched their consoles with low capacity HDDs.
As time went on MS and Sony took notice of how important digital media is today whether it be music, movies, or games.
Now, on the shelf at the store, we can find PS3s and 360s with 160/250/320gb hard drives.
And now Nintendo wants to release a console with 8gb of space? That's lower than either the PS3 or 360 launched with!
What we can safely say, if this is true, is that Nintendo has decided to not care at all about digital games, or other media, with the Wii U.
Nintendo has already said you can use SD/USB storage. This isn't a problem at all. They've confirmed Wii U full retail games will be on the eShop just like 3DS ones are on it's eShop.
You can get a 32GB or more USB drive or SD for cheap and it will work better than a HDD in some cases. Or you can just go with USB Hard Drives. This really is putting it in the hands of the user to do what they will. I like options and I'm going to stick with flash memory.
Why not give you the option? HDD or USB drive?Yea why is this a bad thing? They've already said you can use USB storage and SD.
I'd rather have it flash anyway than a hard drive personally.
A 32GB USB drive or SD card can be had for like $30 or so and that's if you want to go flash.
I see this as a good thing if anything. The 3DS already is doing this, I thought people knew about it already.
bonesawisready5
This has been rumored for over a year. It's not a problem since 32GB SD cards are pretty cheap. Also you can use external hard drives. This isn't a problem. It should keep cost down when it comes to buying the system. Those that want more space will just have to pay for it. Those that don't and won't use it won't .Simple.[QUOTE="NeoStar9"][QUOTE="linkyshinks"]The bad news just keeps pouring in a like a river with this console... According to TIME magazine's tech division: http://www.gameplox.com/2012/06/07/wii-u-has-8-gb-of-internal-storage/2Chalupas
Never tried it, but (without hacking) can you actually run games directly off the SD card or external USB on the Wii? Wouldn't that be far inferior in terms of speed and loading to running off the HDD?
Well this isn't the Wii.
Nintendo will let all games run off SD or USB. They already do on 3DS (SD that is) and they've already said full retail Wii U games will be on the eShop so with USB storage or SD you really won't run into a problem with storage on the Wii U.
[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]Why not give you the option? HDD or USB drive?Yea why is this a bad thing? They've already said you can use USB storage and SD.
I'd rather have it flash anyway than a hard drive personally.
A 32GB USB drive or SD card can be had for like $30 or so and that's if you want to go flash.
I see this as a good thing if anything. The 3DS already is doing this, I thought people knew about it already.
carljohnson3456
Um, because you can plug in a USB Hard Drive into one of the four USB ports? Why should Nintendo give us a crappy, expensive propiertary HDD they slap Nintendo on it when they can simply allow us to plug in our own? I don't get how this is bad, they're opening it up for us to use the cheapest option possible that also brings the best results.
I think everyone missed this where Nintendo said USB hard drives are supportedhttp://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/30582
Why not give you the option? HDD or USB drive?[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]
Yea why is this a bad thing? They've already said you can use USB storage and SD.
I'd rather have it flash anyway than a hard drive personally.
A 32GB USB drive or SD card can be had for like $30 or so and that's if you want to go flash.
I see this as a good thing if anything. The 3DS already is doing this, I thought people knew about it already.
bonesawisready5
Um, because you can plug in a USB Hard Drive into one of the four USB ports? Why should Nintendo give us a crappy, expensive propiertary HDD they slap Nintendo on it when they can simply allow us to plug in our own? I don't get how this is bad, they're opening it up for us to use the cheapest option possible that also brings the best results.
That sounds like some extreme damage control. 8 GB is a joke. They can allow us to plug in our own without jipping us with 8 GB HDD.Nintendo has already said you can use SD/USB storage. This isn't a problem at all. They've confirmed Wii U full retail games will be on the eShop just like 3DS ones are on it's eShop.
You can get a 32GB or more USB drive or SD for cheap and it will work better than a HDD in some cases. Or you can just go with USB Hard Drives. This really is putting it in the hands of the user to do what they will. I like options and I'm going to stick with flash memory.
bonesawisready5
If there's one thing I know about mass market products it's that simplicity, and being feature-rich, are humungous selling points.
Telling people that they need to purchase an addon so that they can use their product to the fullest potential is not
They don't make you. You can easily get a 2.5" hard drive, config it, plug it in, and use it. That is what I do.Do people here realize that the 360 is the only console who actual makes you buy the branded harddrives? Every other system already had a way to upgrade basically however you wanted.
lx_theo
Haha me buying one of those overpriced hard drives....haha
Why is that bad news? You're paying for more either way, the alternative is paying more for the console itself.
[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]
Nintendo has already said you can use SD/USB storage. This isn't a problem at all. They've confirmed Wii U full retail games will be on the eShop just like 3DS ones are on it's eShop.
You can get a 32GB or more USB drive or SD for cheap and it will work better than a HDD in some cases. Or you can just go with USB Hard Drives. This really is putting it in the hands of the user to do what they will. I like options and I'm going to stick with flash memory.
Raymundo_Manuel
If there's one thing I know about mass market products it's that simplicity, and being feature-rich, are humungous selling points.
Telling people that they need to purchase an addon so that they can use their product to the fullest potential is not
Everyone uses flash drives. The concept is simple to understand. No one is going to be confused. Especially if they bother to read the damn manual that comes with the system or at least go to the section titled "storage" or whatever name they use.[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] Why not give you the option? HDD or USB drive? carljohnson3456
Um, because you can plug in a USB Hard Drive into one of the four USB ports? Why should Nintendo give us a crappy, expensive propiertary HDD they slap Nintendo on it when they can simply allow us to plug in our own? I don't get how this is bad, they're opening it up for us to use the cheapest option possible that also brings the best results.
That sounds like some extreme damage control. 8 GB is a joke. They can allow us to plug in our own without jipping us with 8 GB HDD. How can you say you are being "jipped" if none of us know the actual price of the console:?. People act as if SD cards/usb drives are expensive/slow.[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] Why not give you the option? HDD or USB drive? carljohnson3456
Um, because you can plug in a USB Hard Drive into one of the four USB ports? Why should Nintendo give us a crappy, expensive propiertary HDD they slap Nintendo on it when they can simply allow us to plug in our own? I don't get how this is bad, they're opening it up for us to use the cheapest option possible that also brings the best results.
That sounds like some extreme damage control. 8 GB is a joke. They can allow us to plug in our own without jipping us with 8 GB HDD.Damage control? Because I prefer faster, less breakable flash memory? Not really.
Would you rather be ripped off and be told this "Nintendo Branded" HDD inside adds $100 to the price when you know it doesn't? I'd prefer having the option to expand via USB Hard Drive, USB or SD flash storage any day on any platform I use if I could.
[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]That sounds like some extreme damage control. 8 GB is a joke. They can allow us to plug in our own without jipping us with 8 GB HDD. How can you say you are being "jipped" if none of us know the actual price of the console:?. People act as if SD cards/usb drives are expensive/slow. To go off that, I run my entire PC game library (well, like 90% of my games) off my 2Tb external USB 3.0 hard drive. My entire steam library is on there. Runs flawlessly. It was $80Um, because you can plug in a USB Hard Drive into one of the four USB ports? Why should Nintendo give us a crappy, expensive propiertary HDD they slap Nintendo on it when they can simply allow us to plug in our own? I don't get how this is bad, they're opening it up for us to use the cheapest option possible that also brings the best results.
gamefan67
[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]
Nintendo has already said you can use SD/USB storage. This isn't a problem at all. They've confirmed Wii U full retail games will be on the eShop just like 3DS ones are on it's eShop.
You can get a 32GB or more USB drive or SD for cheap and it will work better than a HDD in some cases. Or you can just go with USB Hard Drives. This really is putting it in the hands of the user to do what they will. I like options and I'm going to stick with flash memory.
Raymundo_Manuel
If there's one thing I know about mass market products it's that simplicity, and being feature-rich, are humungous selling points.
Telling people that they need to purchase an addon so that they can use their product to the fullest potential is not
So you're telling me all the mass market Smartphones that make users buy bigger microSD cards aren't simple enough for game console buyers? I mean, Android is super popular and it requires a microSD card since applications run in limited phone storage on a lot of phones. So I'd say consumers will have no problem at all with this.
ITT: Apparently, having the option to use your own instead of buying a Wii U with a proprietary HDD is a bad thing.
Companys giving you choice and saving you money = bad.
only nintendo can destroy all hype for their own platform.
my ps3 in 2008 came with 80 gig...
2012 , wii u with 8?
so much for downloading older games.
campzor
I'm sure all those 1.5GB GameCube classics and 25GB Wii U retail titles will have no problem fitting onto whatever 500GB USB hard drive I plug into my Wii U.
[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"][QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]
Nintendo has already said you can use SD/USB storage. This isn't a problem at all. They've confirmed Wii U full retail games will be on the eShop just like 3DS ones are on it's eShop.
You can get a 32GB or more USB drive or SD for cheap and it will work better than a HDD in some cases. Or you can just go with USB Hard Drives. This really is putting it in the hands of the user to do what they will. I like options and I'm going to stick with flash memory.
NeoStar9
If there's one thing I know about mass market products it's that simplicity, and being feature-rich, are humungous selling points.
Telling people that they need to purchase an addon so that they can use their product to the fullest potential is not
Everyone uses flash drives. The concept is simple to understand. No one is going to be confused. Especially if they bother to read the damn manual that comes with the system or at least go to the section titled "storage" or whatever name they use.People use flash drives for the purpose of easily transferring their files from PC to PC.
Nobody wants to just attach a tumor to their console in order to have enough space for music, movies, and games.
8gb is something they equipped computers with 15 years ago. The original Xbox came with a 10gb HDD.
Why is Nintendo being defended in this decision? Does everybody enjoy the idea of not only having to buy the console, but also an additional item if you want to do more than download a single game to it?
ITT: Apparently, having the option to use your own instead of buying a Wii U with a proprietary HDD is a bad thing.
Companys giving you choice and saving you money = bad.
Haziqonfire
Yea I don't get it.
Want the fastest memory? Go flash with cheap 32GB-64GB USB or SD cards.
Want more memory for cheap but slower? Go USB hard drive.
This is really the best I could ask for.
Sony fanboys: Apparently, having the option to use your own instead of buying a Wii U with a proprietary HDD is a bad thing.
Companys giving you choice and saving you money = bad.
Haziqonfire
fixed
Everyone uses flash drives. The concept is simple to understand. No one is going to be confused. Especially if they bother to read the damn manual that comes with the system or at least go to the section titled "storage" or whatever name they use.[QUOTE="NeoStar9"][QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]
If there's one thing I know about mass market products it's that simplicity, and being feature-rich, are humungous selling points.
Telling people that they need to purchase an addon so that they can use their product to the fullest potential is not
Raymundo_Manuel
People use flash drives for the purpose of easily transferring their files from PC to PC.
Nobody wants to just attach a tumor to their console in order to have enough space for music, movies, and games.
8gb is something they equipped computers with 15 years ago. The original Xbox came with a 10gb HDD.
Why is Nintendo being defended in this decision? Does everybody enjoy the idea of not only having to buy the console, but also an additional item if you want to do more than download a single game to it?
You don't need to ask why their being defended in this decision multiple users have already stated why they like this.
It gives us the option to use faster memory or larger memory if we want to.
Also, like I said before the popularity of microSD cards in smartphones (especially Android) shows that people won't mind this at all.
i would much rather pay for simplicity and ease of mind, knowing all my data is stored within. I have 129 Virtual console games, what will this mean for my hopes of being able to have ALL my games readily available at the touch of a touch panel?.Why is that bad news? You're paying for more either way, the alternative is paying more for the console itself.
SuperFlakeman
[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]i would much rather pay for simplicity and ease of mind, knowing all my data is stored within. I have 129 Virtual console games, what will this mean for my hopes of being able to have ALL my games readily available at the touch of a touch panel?.Why is that bad news? You're paying for more either way, the alternative is paying more for the console itself.
linkyshinks
Well, logically since you have 129 I can tell you probably have an SD card inside your Wii, maybe not.
So there you go. It's that easy. I don't know how much easier this can get. Have you ever bought a memory card for your cell phone, camera? This is the most simple way imaginable and it allows freedom to find the best value.
I mean, how much easier can popping in an USB drive or SD card be?
SD is good enough. I'd be happy if they got rid of that and used the budget towards a better hardware.
painguy1
What is better hardware good for ?
1st party wise, it'll just make the software droughts even worse. Nintendo has to take care of several platforms, two of them being 3DS and Wii U. They did expand significantly to strenghten their teams for HD development, but even so, it'll be a challenge for them. Improving the hardware will make it even worse.
3rd parties will ignore it even if it's on par with the competition, they'll find something to complain about.
You think it's better if they do it, but it will actually result in a worse software library.
I suspect the reason why simple games like NSMB U and Nintendo Land are 720p is because it's cheaper & faster to output games. You don't understand. Nintendo isn't a mega corporation. They are facing a serious threat with ever increasing budgets.
[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]
[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]
Nintendo has already said you can use SD/USB storage. This isn't a problem at all. They've confirmed Wii U full retail games will be on the eShop just like 3DS ones are on it's eShop.
You can get a 32GB or more USB drive or SD for cheap and it will work better than a HDD in some cases. Or you can just go with USB Hard Drives. This really is putting it in the hands of the user to do what they will. I like options and I'm going to stick with flash memory.
bonesawisready5
If there's one thing I know about mass market products it's that simplicity, and being feature-rich, are humungous selling points.
Telling people that they need to purchase an addon so that they can use their product to the fullest potential is not
So you're telling me all the mass market Smartphones that make users buy bigger microSD cards aren't simple enough for game console buyers? I mean, Android is super popular and it requires a microSD card since applications run in limited phone storage on a lot of phones. So I'd say consumers will have no problem at all with this.
:lol: There is a HUGE difference between the size of app/games for a phone and games for a console. :lol::lol: at you for even trying to compare the two.[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"][QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]
If there's one thing I know about mass market products it's that simplicity, and being feature-rich, are humungous selling points.
Telling people that they need to purchase an addon so that they can use their product to the fullest potential is not
AmazonTreeBoa
So you're telling me all the mass market Smartphones that make users buy bigger microSD cards aren't simple enough for game console buyers? I mean, Android is super popular and it requires a microSD card since applications run in limited phone storage on a lot of phones. So I'd say consumers will have no problem at all with this.
:lol: There is a HUGE difference between the size of app/games for a phone and games for a console. :lol::lol: at you for even trying to compare the two. exactly, since the size of games/apps on phones are a few mbs... games on consoles are like 10gig. Thats like the size of the card itself :\[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]
Nintendo has already said you can use SD/USB storage. This isn't a problem at all. They've confirmed Wii U full retail games will be on the eShop just like 3DS ones are on it's eShop.
You can get a 32GB or more USB drive or SD for cheap and it will work better than a HDD in some cases. Or you can just go with USB Hard Drives. This really is putting it in the hands of the user to do what they will. I like options and I'm going to stick with flash memory.
Raymundo_Manuel
If there's one thing I know about mass market products it's that simplicity, and being feature-rich, are humungous selling points.
Telling people that they need to purchase an addon so that they can use their product to the fullest potential is not
Even with the 8GB of space on the Wii U and a 32GB SD card that's still gonna be under 40GB, which as far as I'm concerned is close to nothing. I filled up more than that on Ps3 with ease.
That's fine in my book. I have 2TB of internal, 2.5TB External memory, so I would be good. How many people don't have external hard drives these days or high capacity SD cards for that matter? It's in Nintendos best interest to keep costs down. As others have said, memory is more affordable today than it was when this gen started, so what's not to like, Ninty trying to save me some money too?
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If I do buy this console, it's still up in the air, I will be gladly getting the low end model, if not the only one.
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