Will any other game ever be undisputed graphics king for 3.5 years?

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#1 Dick_Derringer
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I think Crysis just set an unbreakable record.

It's only fitting that the new graphics king will be Crysis 2.

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#2 dercoo
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Developers have learned rapidly pushing graphics just to push graphics alienates fans by increasing spec demands.

How many PC gamers could actually play Crysis at (or near) high settings when it launched.

Graphic war races are not good for the PC gaming industry.

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#3 theuncharted34
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nope. The next king, Crysis 2, may not even last a year.

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Depends on how good Doom 4 looks.

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#6 call_of_duty_10
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God of War 3 just dethroned Crysis. Graphics King 2010

poorfamz

My sarcasm detector is broken....Are you kidding?

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#7 call_of_duty_10
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Crysis @ $300

$300

poorfamz

*facepalm*

So just because you are poor means that crytek didn't make the awesome textures,lighting etc?I think that you are trolling.

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#8 mrmcygan
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Crysis PC Graphics Thread Number: 3725

Why are there so many threads about this.

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#9 poorfamz
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[QUOTE="poorfamz"]

Crysis @ $300

$300

call_of_duty_10

*facepalm*

So just because you are poor means that crytek didn't make the awesome textures,lighting etc?I think that you are trolling.

No, Crysis didnt win graphics king at gamespot because they couldn't run it. simple as that

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Developers have learned rapidly pushing graphics just to push graphics alienates fans by increasing spec demands.

How many PC gamers could actually play Crysis at (or near) high settings when it launched.

Graphic war races are not good for the PC gaming industry.

dercoo
BS! Having games that push current and future hardware is a good thing for PC. Whats the point have a gaming PC and buying hardware if the graphics were as crap as consoles? Alot of things infact, but pushing hardware with mods etc is what the PC does. Consoles are going into ths stage where they releasing old gamse at 720p? I lol because i could play these game at 720p when they were released like 7 years ago. Thats more and enough proof for me, devs should push PC present and future hardware.
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#11 Arach666
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

[QUOTE="poorfamz"]

Crysis @ $300

$300

poorfamz

*facepalm*

So just because you are poor means that crytek didn't make the awesome textures,lighting etc?I think that you are trolling.

No, Crysis didnt win graphics king at gamespot because they couldn't run it. simple as that

Erm...yes it did. :?

It also won best shooter against Halo 3,CoD4 and Bioshock.

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#12 dercoo
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[QUOTE="dercoo"]

Developers have learned rapidly pushing graphics just to push graphics alienates fans by increasing spec demands.

How many PC gamers could actually play Crysis at (or near) high settings when it launched.

Graphic war races are not good for the PC gaming industry.

mattuk69

BS! Having games that push current and future hardware is a good thing for PC. Whats the point have a gaming PC and buying hardware if the graphics were as crap as consoles? Alot of things infact, but pushing hardware with mods etc is what the PC does. Consoles are going into ths stage where they releasing old gamse at 720p? I lol because i could play these game at 720p when they were released like 7 years ago. Thats more and enough proof for me, devs should push PC present and future hardware.

I not saying graphics pushes are bad, just graphic races (like arms races).

When every company is competing for the #1 graphics spot on PC, it causes hardware to be outdated fast.

I had a gaming PC that cost nearly $2000(in 03/04). It became outdated and unable to play the good new games in less than 2 years(even at low settings).

PC gaming cost were growing exponentially till about when this current console gen started. The tech push/race slowed down and stabilized.

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[QUOTE="mattuk69"][QUOTE="dercoo"]

Developers have learned rapidly pushing graphics just to push graphics alienates fans by increasing spec demands.

How many PC gamers could actually play Crysis at (or near) high settings when it launched.

Graphic war races are not good for the PC gaming industry.

dercoo

BS! Having games that push current and future hardware is a good thing for PC. Whats the point have a gaming PC and buying hardware if the graphics were as crap as consoles? Alot of things infact, but pushing hardware with mods etc is what the PC does. Consoles are going into ths stage where they releasing old gamse at 720p? I lol because i could play these game at 720p when they were released like 7 years ago. Thats more and enough proof for me, devs should push PC present and future hardware.

I not saying graphics pushes are bad, just graphic races (like arms races).

When every company is competing for the #1 graphics spot on PC, it causes hardware to be outdated fast.

I had a gaming PC that cost nearly $2000(in 03/04). It became outdated and unable to play the good new games in less than 2 years(even at low settings).

PC gaming cost were growing exponentially till about when this current console gen started. The tech push/race slowed down and stabilized.

I know that's bologna because I built a rig in 03 for $1300 and it could play games cranked up until sometime in 07' when dual cores started becoming big.

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#14 xOMGITSJASONx
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[QUOTE="poorfamz"]

God of War 3 just dethroned Crysis. Graphics King 2010

call_of_duty_10

My sarcasm detector is broken....Are you kidding?

God of War 3 is an amazing looking game actually. The guy isn't lying. But Crysis 1...it is not!!

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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

[QUOTE="poorfamz"]

God of War 3 just dethroned Crysis. Graphics King 2010

xOMGITSJASONx

My sarcasm detector is broken....Are you kidding?

God of War 3 is an amazing looking game actually. The guy isn't lying. But Crysis 1...it is not!!

Yeah, really. Especially when you look a little bit more closely at the textures of the two games. God of War 3 certainly does look amazing, but the textures just aren't as detailed as those of Crysis.
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[QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] My sarcasm detector is broken....Are you kidding?

psx_warrior

God of War 3 is an amazing looking game actually. The guy isn't lying. But Crysis 1...it is not!!

Yeah, really. Especially when you look a little bit more closely at the textures of the two games. God of War 3 certainly does look amazing, but the textures just aren't as detailed as those of Crysis.

Its not all about the textures. while Crysis looks great, the textures are a bit janky. Everything else in the game is amazing thoe.

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[QUOTE="mattuk69"][QUOTE="dercoo"]

Developers have learned rapidly pushing graphics just to push graphics alienates fans by increasing spec demands.

How many PC gamers could actually play Crysis at (or near) high settings when it launched.

Graphic war races are not good for the PC gaming industry.

dercoo

BS! Having games that push current and future hardware is a good thing for PC. Whats the point have a gaming PC and buying hardware if the graphics were as crap as consoles? Alot of things infact, but pushing hardware with mods etc is what the PC does. Consoles are going into ths stage where they releasing old gamse at 720p? I lol because i could play these game at 720p when they were released like 7 years ago. Thats more and enough proof for me, devs should push PC present and future hardware.

I not saying graphics pushes are bad, just graphic races (like arms races).

When every company is competing for the #1 graphics spot on PC, it causes hardware to be outdated fast.

I had a gaming PC that cost nearly $2000(in 03/04). It became outdated and unable to play the good new games in less than 2 years(even at low settings).

PC gaming cost were growing exponentially till about when this current console gen started. The tech push/race slowed down and stabilized.

Yeah well times have changed and everything being multiplatform now holds back the PC. I know what you mean about 03/04 but that was before next gen consoles. Games need to work on the lowest common denominator now that being consoles. Which is why graphic cards like mine that are over 2 years old can still max games at 1080p at very high framerates. So its good to have games like Metro 2033, Crysis and Arma 2 that will at least give your hardware a run for its money.
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#18 mattuk69
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[QUOTE="psx_warrior"][QUOTE="xOMGITSJASONx"]

God of War 3 is an amazing looking game actually. The guy isn't lying. But Crysis 1...it is not!!

JangoWuzHere

Yeah, really. Especially when you look a little bit more closely at the textures of the two games. God of War 3 certainly does look amazing, but the textures just aren't as detailed as those of Crysis.

Its not all about the textures. while Crysis looks great, the textures are a bit janky. Everything else in the game is amazing thoe.

Yeah the textures in crysis are abit crappy in parts especially on rocks. Thank god for modders.
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Developers have learned rapidly pushing graphics just to push graphics alienates fans by increasing spec demands.

How many PC gamers could actually play Crysis at (or near) high settings when it launched.

Graphic war races are not good for the PC gaming industry.

dercoo
I agree. In a way, Crysis was a fluke. I mean, it was (and still is) the best looking game, but at the time, how many people actually played it at Max? And I doubt everyone is going to beef up their PCs just to play one game (because I don't upgrade my PC to the newest video cards...I usually upgrade after a new one is released and buy the ones higher than mine that have dropped in price. I mean, after the 570 was released, I've seen the 460 go from $400 to $280 in the span of two months :o). Anyway, companies should stop focusing on who can make the prettiest games. I'd bet they could sell more copies on PC if most people could run it the way they'd like. I doubt everyone in the world owns a computer build for gaming, and if they own a console as well, nothing kills a potential PC sale than someone knowing their console can run the game smoother than their PC because of high specs they're not even close to having.
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#20 painguy1
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Crysis 2 might dethrone, or Doom 4, but the thing with doom is that alot of things in the IDtech5 is static & not dynamic.

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#21 nameless12345
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Vanilla Crysis was already detroned by Metro 2033 in the technical department and by Uncharted 2 in the art style department. You need a reality check ;)

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#22 Wasdie  Moderator
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Crysis did set the bar kind of high.

Battlefield 3 on the PC has a shot becuase of it's native DX10 and amazing DX11 support.

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#23 Wasdie  Moderator
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Vanilla Crysis was already detroned by Metro 2033 in the technical department and by Uncharted 2 in the art style department. You need a reality check ;)

nameless12345

Can't give it to Metro when the DX10 and DX11 run like ass on good hardware.

Crysis is hella optimized all things considered. It ran on very high settings in 2007 on 2006 hardware getting like 30-40 FPS and today most gaming rigs can rip it apart. Metro can't even run on very high settings in 2010 with a high end rig and still crams you into small spaces.

I alwasy have said that Uncharted 2 is more detailed but it falls short on the scale.

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#24 adamosmaki
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[QUOTE="poorfamz"]

Crysis @ $300

$300

call_of_duty_10

*facepalm*

So just because you are poor means that crytek didn't make the awesome textures,lighting etc?I think that you are trolling.

At least poorfamz rename your picture so that when you right click to save it it wont say crysisenemieslow. If you are gonna troll do it the right way. rename the pic to crysisenemiesuberdetail

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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

[QUOTE="psx_warrior"]Yeah, really. Especially when you look a little bit more closely at the textures of the two games. God of War 3 certainly does look amazing, but the textures just aren't as detailed as those of Crysis.mattuk69

Its not all about the textures. while Crysis looks great, the textures are a bit janky. Everything else in the game is amazing thoe.

Yeah the textures in crysis are abit crappy in parts especially on rocks. Thank god for modders.

It's not that bad. I just started Crysis from the beginning, only texture mods I use is foliage:

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Sorry about them being kinda dark. I did a fresh start to make sure there are no savegame screwups in relation to my config and it's night in the beginning of the game.

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#26 nameless12345
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Vanilla Crysis was already detroned by Metro 2033 in the technical department and by Uncharted 2 in the art style department. You need a reality check ;)

Wasdie

Can't give it to Metro when the DX10 and DX11 run like ass on good hardware.

Optimization means nothing here. Crysis was pretty unplaylable on maxed settings when it came out too, but that doesn't mean it wasn't the technically most advanced game at the time ;)

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This was taken on my 2007 budget PC.

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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

[QUOTE="poorfamz"]

Crysis @ $300

$300

poorfamz

*facepalm*

So just because you are poor means that crytek didn't make the awesome textures,lighting etc?I think that you are trolling.

No, Crysis didnt win graphics king at gamespot because they couldn't run it. simple as that

dude. crysis won best graphics of 2007 at gamespot. what the **** are you talking about? there are so many uneducated people who make false claims on this forum. this is unbelievable.
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#29 Dick_Derringer
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Vanilla Crysis was already detroned by Metro 2033 in the technical department

nameless12345
LOL
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PC gaming is dead graphics have only gotten worse since 2007 :(

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#31 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="dercoo"]

Developers have learned rapidly pushing graphics just to push graphics alienates fans by increasing spec demands.

How many PC gamers could actually play Crysis at (or near) high settings when it launched.

Graphic war races are not good for the PC gaming industry.

It's good for PC gaming industry i.e. AMD's Radeon HD and NVIDIA's Geforce product lines.
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#32 ronvalencia
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Vanilla Crysis was already detroned by Metro 2033 in the technical department and by Uncharted 2 in the art style department. You need a reality check ;)

nameless12345

Art style is subjective. Try Crysis Warhead vs Uncharted 2.

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PC gaming is dead graphics have only gotten worse since 2007 :(

Zurrur

I concur

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#34 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="mattuk69"][QUOTE="dercoo"]

Developers have learned rapidly pushing graphics just to push graphics alienates fans by increasing spec demands.

How many PC gamers could actually play Crysis at (or near) high settings when it launched.

Graphic war races are not good for the PC gaming industry.

dercoo

BS! Having games that push current and future hardware is a good thing for PC. Whats the point have a gaming PC and buying hardware if the graphics were as crap as consoles? Alot of things infact, but pushing hardware with mods etc is what the PC does. Consoles are going into ths stage where they releasing old gamse at 720p? I lol because i could play these game at 720p when they were released like 7 years ago. Thats more and enough proof for me, devs should push PC present and future hardware.

I not saying graphics pushes are bad, just graphic races (like arms races).

When every company is competing for the #1 graphics spot on PC, it causes hardware to be outdated fast.

I had a gaming PC that cost nearly $2000(in 03/04). It became outdated and unable to play the good new games in less than 2 years(even at low settings).

PC gaming cost were growing exponentially till about when this current console gen started. The tech push/race slowed down and stabilized.

Crysis Warhead running on my old ASUS G1SN (due to NVIDIA bumpgate issues,my G1S was replaced with G1SN) and medium settings.

I usually buy PC hardware in sync with the current console generation e.g. PS3 was released in Nov 2006 and I bought my ASUS G1S (with Geforce 8600M GT GDDR3) in May 2007. After the laptop's income tax depreciation expense schedule has run out i.e. starting from 2007 H1 to end of 2009 H1, I bought ex-demo Sony Vaio VGN-FW45 (With Radeon HD 4650) for $800 AU which matches the limit on the income tax depreciation expense in a given financial period. i.e. 2009 H2 to end of 2010 H1. Since I was NVIDIA fan, I use this laptop to test ATI's Radeon HD hardware and drive software stack.

My current DELL Studio XPS 1645's income tax depreciation expense schedule starts from 2010 H2 to end 2012 H2. Most the expenses are claimed back on income tax i.e. over time, my net cash expense to me is nearly zero.

Since I work as application programmer (C++/C#), I can't use this income tax benefit with the game consoles. PS; If you are working, contact your income tax agent for tax related advice i.e. it might save you $$.

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#35 nameless12345
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Vanilla Crysis was already detroned by Metro 2033 in the technical department

Dick_Derringer

LOL

What lol? Metro has many effects Crysis doesn't have. The only thing where Crysis has the advantage is the view distance and foilage quality. But considering Metro takes place in sewers, it's not that easy to compare the two.

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Developers have learned rapidly pushing graphics just to push graphics alienates fans by increasing spec demands.

How many PC gamers could actually play Crysis at (or near) high settings when it launched.

Graphic war races are not good for the PC gaming industry.

dercoo
the geforce 8800s can play crysis on high settings and plenty of people bought them near crysis's release. Crysis may have been seen as a tech demo, but it remains one of the best sp fps this gen, only a couple of other pc shooters have a better single player mode, also crysis runs fine on a 7800gt and is still 95% the same game.
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#37 glez13
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Vanilla Crysis was already detroned by Metro 2033 in the technical department and by Uncharted 2 in the art style department. You need a reality check ;)

nameless12345

I doubt Uncharted 2 dethroned Crysis in the art style department, since Crysis had never that throne and Uncharted 2 isn't way up there either.

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#38 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Vanilla Crysis was already detroned by Metro 2033 in the technical department and by Uncharted 2 in the art style department. You need a reality check ;)

glez13

I doubt Uncharted 2 dethroned Crysis in the art style department, since Crysis had never that throne and Uncharted 2 isn't way up there either.

Plus Uncharted's art is nothing special at all. It's just nicely detailed. Things like Kirby's Epic Yarn is an example of great art.

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The graphics king will change more slowly over time because it will become harder to top previous standards when graphics capabilities increase more slowly.

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#40 xOMGITSJASONx
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Going by awards on GS 2010 God of War 3 is Graphics King so what are you guys chatting about?

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#41 Roushrsh
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Crysis vanilla doesn't look that great, with mods it > everything to date. Metro vanilla >>> crysis vanilla. (graphics, not scope) *I've been running them both on max*
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[QUOTE="dercoo"]

Developers have learned rapidly pushing graphics just to push graphics alienates fans by increasing spec demands.

How many PC gamers could actually play Crysis at (or near) high settings when it launched.

Graphic war races are not good for the PC gaming industry.

mattuk69
BS! Having games that push current and future hardware is a good thing for PC. Whats the point have a gaming PC and buying hardware if the graphics were as crap as consoles? Alot of things infact, but pushing hardware with mods etc is what the PC does. Consoles are going into ths stage where they releasing old gamse at 720p? I lol because i could play these game at 720p when they were released like 7 years ago. Thats more and enough proof for me, devs should push PC present and future hardware.

It is a good thing. Even though it was difficult to max Crysis wen it came out, a very large range of PCs could still play the game! I was playing it on med settings (Which still look amazing by todays standards) with a single core and an 8600gt.