will counter-strike ever get dethroned as the King of competitive FPS?

Let's try to keep this reasonable, I really don't want opinions on what you like or if you hate CS because you aren't good at it. For the record I play the "unpopular 1" (competitively speaking) in CS:S, but I can recognize good FPS when I see it. CS 1.6 has been the staple of FPS gaming since 99.FEAR, COD2, Doom3, Painkiller, Halo, et al have all tried to garner more recognition from the competitive scene to no avail. There hasn't been a game that has more balanced maps, a more balanced weapon system or better hit registration than CS. CS to me, is almost like a sport like basketball. It just is accepted with little changes to its core play (CS:S). Eventually there will be a new CS and the older players will move forward (maybe source). And from source to CS 2.0 etc. Halo was a good game and they completely switched up the weapons and levels and play mechanics (dual wielding, swords, etc) and now with halo3 they did even more changes. (not saying h3 is a bad game). But when a game has to flip the switch a lot it tells me it is trying to find an identity still; a good balance if you will. Counter-strike really hasn't done that (despite the divide of cs1.6 and CS:S but that can be accounted for an unwillingness to upgrade as the majority of the mechanics are similar).

So my statement is that CS is the most popular and respected FPS and its still using an 8 year old engine (HL) and CS:S is gaining in popularity each day with more minutes played than any other FPS game (halo2, gears et al). What game can dethrone CS. Personally I hope it stays just as popular as it is my favorite game.

Of course it'll be dethroned. There's bound to be a better competitive FPS made.

Counter Stikre 5 seconds of Skill for every 10 minutes of spraying and praying.htekemerald

That makes no sense.

I have been playing cs and css for a long time now, there is no better mp game

rtcwet is good bc it's free but it simply cannot compare to css. the only ppl who dont like cs either never played it or suck at it.

I think a lot of people would say Unreal Tournament takes more skill, it's just that Counter Strike is more popular.Game_Addict247

ut doesnt take more skill than 1.6 IMO source maybe

everyone plays de_dust it's so lameMagical_Guy

i hardly ever see dust. it is ct biased. Dust 2 on the other hand....

but who cares that is why you filter what you want to play or find a cAL rotation server. That is a lame reason to hate on the game. It is the MOST popular FPS and most competitive. I don't think I said it takes the most "skill" as UT takes more twitch reflexes. I thought there would be more educated responses than these....

Let's see you start off by saying you don't want opinions on what people like or if they hate CS "because the aren't good at it" Then you go on to say you play the "unpopular 1" and brag about your ability to discern what is and isn't a good FPS.

Then you claim CS has been a staple of FPS gaming since 99. You then go on to praise nearly every aspect of the game.

Then you compare it to basketball.

Then you critcize Halo for changing aspects of gameplay between sequels.

Then you say Counter strike is the best and most popular and most respected and keeps on getting more popular every day.

You then end with a question "What game can dethrone CS."

who made it the king of competitve FPS? lol

the only thing i like about CSS are the weapon models, no game yet has came close to weapon detail and sound like CSS.

other than that, CSS sux, ill take BF2 over it anytime

Counter Stikre 5 seconds of Skill for every 10 minutes of spraying and praying.htekemerald

Popularity doesn't always reflect quality of the game.

Personally, I think CS was great for it's time but now, it's old, boring, and outdated.

crysis

Team Fortress 2 is a contender for Counter Strike's throne, as is UT3, Enemy Territory: Quake Wars, and so on and so forth. Counter Strike will be dethroned eventually.Narwaffle

They're all sequals to great multiplayer FPS games...but I'm not convinced that any of them will become popular enough to dethrone CS.

Sorry... Thats a Nice Wall, but HaloReally did Bring Competative Gameing into the Light... Counter-Strike may take more skill and be funner, But as far as the masses are consored its all about Halo...XxR0gu3Go0sexX

If that where true wouldn't more be people be playing Halo/2 then CS/CS:S?

Sorry... Thats a Nice Wall, but HaloReally did Bring Competative Gameing into the Light... Counter-Strike may take more skill and be funner, But as far as the masses are consored its all about Halo...XxR0gu3Go0sexX

Counterstrike will continue. Its a great formula, it will be redone with a new engine again in time.

BF2 > CS...anyday.

"Battlefield 2 is the best modern, tactical first person shooter to ever come out"

You can quote me on ths.

I loved counter strike source and playin with my friends, and the game as so many other games within it too :)

I also love how you can mod games skins, and the total look of the game:

BF2 > CS...anyday.

"Battlefield 2 is the best modern, tactical first person shooter to ever come out"

You can quote me on ths.

lariz

Your 'opinion' is overruled by the number of players and servers dedicated to CS.

[QUOTE="lariz"]

BF2 > CS...anyday.

"Battlefield 2 is the best modern, tactical first person shooter to ever come out"

You can quote me on ths.

tenaka2

Your 'opinion' is overruled by the number of players and servers dedicated to CS.

Of course it's my opinion, and I am entitled to it.

Sorry... Thats a Nice Wall, but HaloReally did Bring Competative Gameing into the Light... Counter-Strike may take more skill and be funner, But as far as the masses are consored its all about Halo...XxR0gu3Go0sexX

ERm no Halo is not the MP FPS that started the competitive play, it was CS:1 ... Halo is like Battlefield, some things require skill, others are viechle whoring / large weapon whore or "LOL STICKY GRANADS! awesome!" >>

[QUOTE="tenaka2"][QUOTE="lariz"]

BF2 > CS...anyday.

"Battlefield 2 is the best modern, tactical first person shooter to ever come out"

You can quote me on ths.

lariz

Your 'opinion' is overruled by the number of players and servers dedicated to CS.

Of course it's my opinion, and I am entitled to it.

Opinions tend to start with 'In my opinion......'

I always really liked CS. Between 1.0 and 1.5 I played pretty much nothing else.

However, I think it got too luck-based. It just pissed me off getting shot in the head with a Desert Eagle from huge distances...

Team Fortress 2 is a contender for Counter Strike's throne, as is UT3, Enemy Territory: Quake Wars, and so on and so forth. Counter Strike will be dethroned eventually.Narwaffle

Counter Strike trashed team fortress 1, all previous UTs and all previous quake games. I dont think those new ones are going to fair any better.

Wolfinstein: Enemy Territory>>>>>>> counter strikeFilm-Guy

[QUOTE="Narwaffle"]Team Fortress 2 is a contender for Counter Strike's throne, as is UT3, Enemy Territory: Quake Wars, and so on and so forth. Counter Strike will be dethroned eventually.Sovereign727

Counter Strike trashed team fortress 1, all previous UTs and all previous quake games. I dont think those new ones are going to fair any better.

People get bored of older games eventually, I reckon UT3 will have the most, being on 3 systems this time around.

its sad when a consoles only good fps is 4 years old.OpticalCanine

It's sad when it's more mainstream worldwide and more competitive than the Xbox's "crowning achievement."

Counter Strike trashed team fortress 1, all previous UTs and all previous quake games. I dont think those new ones are going to fair any better.

Sovereign727

www.mlgpro.comlespaul1919

MLG is one of the few console competive gaming leagues...not that large either.

www.mlgpro.comlespaul1919

ESWC, WCG, CGS, WSVG, Dreamhack, CPL > MLG.

[QUOTE="Game_Addict247"]I think a lot of people would say Unreal Tournament takes more skill, it's just that Counter Strike is more popular.crazedweasle

ut doesnt take more skill than 1.6 IMO source maybe

You kidding me? UT takes way more skill, go play UT99 jump into a deathmatch, you´ll easily get raped, and the next guy that comes in can rape the dude the raped you and so on, in UT you don´t really get to many lucky kills in 1on1´s if you don´t know what your doing your screwed CS is much easier to get into. UT is probably the FPS with the largest "skill meter" if that makes any sense out there.

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]www.mlgpro.comprojectpat2007

MLG is one of the few console competive gaming leagues...not that large either.

It rips off the NBA logo :lol: how pathetic.

*Goes in search of Boom Headshot video* :lol:

It should have been dethroned already, but hermits obviously don't like change and therefore other worthier titles are neglected. So on the PC? Maybe, if gamers stop playing CSS and start adopting and putting into new titles. Maybe Crysis will do it.

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]www.mlgpro.comprojectpat2007

MLG is one of the few console competive gaming leagues...not that large either.

A console game cannot overthrow a PC game for the simple reason that consoles get updated every 5 years, while PCs remain backwards compatible and can get graphical updates in the form of patches. Console players generally upgrade to whatever is the most recently released version of a game. It's a completely different ballgame.

Didn't read that wall of text. But CS:S is the best game ever made.

/thread may continue :P

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[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]www.mlgpro.comSqueek37

MLG is one of the few console competive gaming leagues...not that large either.

A console game cannot overthrow a PC game for the simple reason that consoles get updated every 5 years, while PCs remain backwards compatible and can get graphical updates in the form of patches. Console players generally upgrade to whatever is the most recently released version of a game. It's a completely different ballgame.

and mods....a lot of minor sequals are pointless, when all the changes can just be modded into the original game.

[QUOTE="projectpat2007"]

[QUOTE="lespaul1919"]www.mlgpro.comMeu2k7

MLG is one of the few console competive gaming leagues...not that large either.

It rips off the NBA logo :lol: how pathetic.

I know..lol

You should see how they run the tournaments..fricken pathetic, and go watch some movies of these pro's playing, man it's joke..lol