Will Devil May Cry(DmC) match the standards of the series ?

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#1 Swift_Boss_A
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Lets forget about how horrible Dante looks in DmC but do you think Ninja Theory will be able to match the style and gameplay the franchise is famous for? Looking at their past work do you think the gameplay will be ridiculously fun or as boring as Heavenly Sword and Enslaved? Who knows maybe they're going to shock us all :\

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#2 CDUB316
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i'm personally excited....yes the look of the new dante did shock me at first, but honestly, you put some white hair on him and he still looks like him....just a teenager of course

from the trailer he still looks cocky as hell and looks like he has great moves

i think we're gonna see this arrogant punk teen turn into the dante we know in this game

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#3 Luxen90
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Ninja Theory can definitely make great games, just they seem to have a tendency to have more flash than substance, so they'll need to learn how to balance it out more.


I'm sure the combat will be similar to Heavenly Sword, but with more depth and a jump button. Devil May Cry weapons by themselves really didn't have that much depth, but when you mix the weapons together that's when it shines. I think Ninja Theory can get the gameplay right as long as DMC team is helping them with gameplay. As for it matching the standards? Uhh what standard? The real question is will it follow the good/bad pattern.

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I don't really know what to base this off of. I haven't seen any gameplay footage yet so I can't really say.
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#5 Swift_Boss_A
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I don't really know what to base this off of. I haven't seen any gameplay footage yet so I can't really say. majadamus

There's plenty of stuff you can base this off, if the DmC trailer wasn't enough than look back to the games Ninja Theory have made and come to a conclusion as to why they are or not fit enough to reboot DMC. Personally I don't think they will do the franchise justice, if butchering Dante in the trailer wasn't enough they really don't know how to implement satisfying gameplay judging by Enslaved.

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#6 GeneralShowzer
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8.0 - 8.5 score coupled with lousy sales.
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#7 Swift_Boss_A
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8.0 - 8.5 score coupled with lousy sales.GeneralShowzer

lousy sales are a given but I don't think it will score that high, I reckon the gameplay wil pale in comparison to the series standard and will probably score like 6.5 - 7.0

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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]8.0 - 8.5 score coupled with lousy sales.Swift_Boss_A

lousy sales are a given but I don't think it will score that high, I reckon the gameplay wil pail in comparison to the series standard and will probably score like 6.5 - 7.0

What? Ninja Theory are AA developers though.
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#9 johny300
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The combat in Enslaved was boring and repetetive lol, i just want a good story and a satesfying combat.
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#10 Skittles_McGee
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Ninja Theory matching one of the best (if not the best) action series out there. Yeah, that'll happen.
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#11 SaltyMeatballs
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It's not hard, DMC4 was poo.
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#12 shutdown_202
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DMC doesnt exactly have a consistent standard.

DMC1 - Mind blowing, amazing, GOTY
DMC2 - Pretty crap, playable but meh
DMC3 - Great, awesome combat and fun
DMC4 - Ok i guess

DMC5 will probably be a good game but i have zero interest in it (at the moment anyway).

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#13 JLF1
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It's not hard, DMC4 was poo.SaltyMeatballs

You can't base a franshise on it's weakest point.

DMC4 was nothing spectacular but it was a good DMC game. It was simply more of the same and had the wrong main character.

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#14 Kurezan
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I'll probably still buy DmC.. Hoping Ninja Theory changes the character though.

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#15 Espada12
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It will probably suck pretty bad as a DMC game.

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#16 Renjinrezo
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I don't like the overall design of the game so far. I don't know if this is going to be the most disappointing DMC game, but it definitely feels like a different game with the "DMC" name slapped on it at the moment. Even though I liked Heavenly Sword somewhat, the same thing can't be said about this game... oh well, time will tell.

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#17 Filthybastrd
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Everything comes is circles. When the world met Dante for the first time, he got the jrpg girlman treatment and now this new one gets the Twilight treatment.

According to tradition, 5 should be really good but 4 did sort of break the "even number means crap" curse of the series.

Lets just wait and see.

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That depends on how much they change the combat, and whether they maintain a stable 60 fps framerate. Also, it depends on how much cheese they put into the story and cutscenes... because a "serious" Devil May Cry would ruin the series.

It's not hard, DMC4 was poo.SaltyMeatballs

Only non-fans think as such. DMC4 was a refinement of the formula in DMC3, a "perfection" of what DMC3 tried playing with. Though, the faster pace of DMC3, along with its characters and weapons, was the far better game. DMC4 was a good action game, and a great DMC game. Far from "poo." That was DMC2.

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#19 abuabed
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It will be crap most probably.
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#20 DarkLink77
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That depends on how much they change the combat, and whether they maintain a stable 60 fps framerate. Also, it depends on how much cheese they put into the story and cutscenes... because a "serious" Devil May Cry would ruin the series.

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]It's not hard, DMC4 was poo.foxhound_fox


Only non-fans think as such. DMC4 was a refinement of the formula in DMC3, a "perfection" of what DMC3 tried playing with. Though, the faster pace of DMC3, along with its characters and weapons, was the far better game. DMC4 was a good action game, and a great DMC game. Far from "poo." That was DMC2.

This. DMC4 was great. It had issues, sure, but it was a lot of fun, and the combat was a blast. That said, Ninja Theory has proven time and again that they couldn't make a game that plays great to save their lives, so there's no way this new DMC will live up to the old ones.

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#21 Swift_Boss_A
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[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]8.0 - 8.5 score coupled with lousy sales.Luxen90

lousy sales are a given but I don't think it will score that high, I reckon the gameplay wil pail in comparison to the series standard and will probably score like 6.5 - 7.0

What? Ninja Theory are AA developers though.

barely

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#22 siddarthshetty
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I just hope it will maintain it's standards

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#23 abdu4
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I hope they just do something, But I highly doubt it. The game might be good on the story side, but they will fail on what counts in DMC, gameplay.
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#24 campzor
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no, ninja theory has had 2 chances to impress me with their take on combat and it is EXTREMELY unsatisfying...... they are not good at ALL for combat... maybe if capcom themselves helps out there is a chance but im not optimistic about this.
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#25 funsohng
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I found Heavenly Sword boring, I have no idea why people praise that game so much.
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#26 Ziek-AAT
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If the gameplay is anything like Enslaved then I think were in trouble.... combat in DMC is the best thing about the series.

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#27 RavenLoud
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NT excels at presentation and characters.

When it comes to combat however, they don't hold a candle to Mikami or Kamiya.

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#28 deactivated-5e7be39d87e0b
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Why does he look like the guy from Twilight now?!

It's like one day Nintendo deciding to make Mario look like Ron Jeremy.....some things are just better left alone.

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#29 finalfantasy94
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NT so far made two IP so when it came to combat they had nothing to build off on. DMC has a certain combat to its series and im pretty sure they will stick to that formula with a little twist. Also its not like they are alone capcom is there. This poll is also useless cause no matter what people are going to say its poo cause of the look of dante even if you say ignore it.

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#30 spookykid143
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Combat will be horrible

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#31 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="Luxen90"][QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

lousy sales are a given but I don't think it will score that high, I reckon the gameplay wil pail in comparison to the series standard and will probably score like 6.5 - 7.0

Swift_Boss_A

What? Ninja Theory are AA developers though.

barely

They made 2 games this gen and both got an 8 here. The barely would make more sense if they lets say made like 6 or moregames this gen and only 1 or 2 got an 8.

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Nope. If you want that quality then look towards Bayonetta and possible sequels.
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It'll be better, I never thought the DMC's gameplay was that great, and I know that ninja theory will be able to pull off a better story.

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#35 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]Ninja Theory matching one of the best (if not the best) action series out there. Yeah, that'll happen.

Don't they have the help of capcom? If so I don't see why they wouldn't be able to. Do they need to work hard and listen to the fans. Most certainly.
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Standard of the series? :? Devil May Cry have been flip-flopping from great to poor releases.

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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]Ninja Theory matching one of the best (if not the best) action series out there. Yeah, that'll happen.Animal-Mother
Don't they have the help of capcom? If so I don't see why they wouldn't be able to. Do they need to work hard and listen to the fans. Most certainly.

But that's EXACTLY what they aren't doing, see the new Dante :?
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#38 Swift_Boss_A
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They made 2 games this gen and both got an 8 here. The barely would make more sense if they lets say made like 6 or moregames this gen and only 1 or 2 got an 8.finalfantasy94
They may have only made two games this gen but considering the games are mostly flash and no substance I reckon they are going to have an hard time getting AA scores with the trash that is DmC. Normally Im not that harsh o devs and I would have given NT a chance but they left the starting line with DMC in a horrible condition, the trailer screamed fail imo. Also keep in mind they made a game last gen called Kung-Fu Chaos which got a 6.5 here, DmC will be another Kung Fu chaos of this gen, and believe me this game will be chaos (not in the cool GOW3 way but in the awful sense).
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]Ninja Theory matching one of the best (if not the best) action series out there. Yeah, that'll happen.The_RedLion
Don't they have the help of capcom? If so I don't see why they wouldn't be able to. Do they need to work hard and listen to the fans. Most certainly.

But that's EXACTLY what they aren't doing, see the new Dante :?

Well it took us a while to see the old cole again. Maybe will see. The games still a ways a way. I'll keep on edge regardless. NT is ok. But as said they need to do a LOT in order to make it worker.
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]They made 2 games this gen and both got an 8 here. The barely would make more sense if they lets say made like 6 or moregames this gen and only 1 or 2 got an 8.Swift_Boss_A
They may have only made two games this gen but considering the games are mostly flash and no substance I reckon they are going to have an hard time getting AA scores with the trash that is DmC. Normally Im not that harsh o devs and I would have given NT a chance but they left the starting line with DMC in a horrible condition, the trailer screamed fail imo. Also keep in mind they made a game last gen called Kung-Fu Chaos which got a 6.5 here, DmC will be another Kung Fu chaos of this gen, and believe me this game will be chaos (not in the cool GOW3 way but in the awful sense).

Can I borrow your time machine to play the game, because you seem to certainly know a lot.
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Standard of the series? :? Devil May Cry have been flip-flopping from great to poor releases.

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DMC2 was the only weak link in the series but I predict this new DmC will be the worst of the bunch. Personally I don't even want to associate it with DMC so Im glad it's a reboot and not part of the proper DMC franchise. I just hope Capcom opens their eyes to this trash and returns to making proper DMC titles but I doubt they will. The decent thing that can at least do is sell the IP to Platinum and let Kamiya have his baby again.
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They already screw up by using the Unreal Engine 3. There is no they can match up to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnbnqJSpj-Q
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Can I borrow your time machine to play the game, because you seem to certainly know a lot.

Im using common sense dude, the game should be reviewed based on how it matches up to the previous DMC games and I seriously believe it will come no where near as close to the awesomeness of the franchise. The game is not being made by Capcom, it's being made by British devs, If I have learnt one thing about gaming it's that Japanese developers pretty much own the hack n slash genre. Heavenly Sword and Enslaved although great games don't match up to DMC3, Bayonetta, Ninja Gaiden, Onimusha etc in terms of gameplay and we expect these devs to make a DMC? A franchise loved and character whom they destroyed? No sir you don't need a time machine to tell DmC is a disaster in the making.
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#44 fusionhunter
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I liked DMC4,don't know why people hate it so much because you weren't Dante the whole way through.

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#45 clone01
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Lets forget about how horrible Dante looks in DmC but do you think Ninja Theory will be able to match the style and gameplay the franchise is famous for? Looking at their past work do you think the gameplay will be ridiculously fun or as boring as Heavenly Sword and Enslaved? Who knows maybe they're going to shock us all :\

Swift_Boss_A
and he didn't look completely ridiculous in previous iterations of the series?
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#46 Swift_Boss_A
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[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]

Lets forget about how horrible Dante looks in DmC but do you think Ninja Theory will be able to match the style and gameplay the franchise is famous for? Looking at their past work do you think the gameplay will be ridiculously fun or as boring as Heavenly Sword and Enslaved? Who knows maybe they're going to shock us all :\

clone01
and he didn't look completely ridiculous in previous iterations of the series?

ridiculous yes but in a good way. Dante in DmC looks ridiculous in a bad way :P Seriously he looks like a drugged up emo junkie now. Not a good start I'll say. Say what you want about the ol Dante but it's crazy to think that new Dante looks better. In fact Im convinced this isn't even Dante, NT should just forget the collaboration and make a new IP out of the existing trailer.
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[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Can I borrow your time machine to play the game, because you seem to certainly know a lot.

Im using common sense dude, the game should be reviewed based on how it matches up to the previous DMC games and I seriously believe it will come no where near as close to the awesomeness of the franchise. The game is not being made by Capcom, it's being made by British devs, If I have learnt one thing about gaming it's that Japanese developers pretty much own the hack n slash genre. Heavenly Sword and Enslaved although great games don't match up to DMC3, Bayonetta, Ninja Gaiden, Onimusha etc in terms of gameplay and we expect these devs to make a DMC? A franchise loved and character whom they destroyed? No sir you don't need a time machine to tell DmC is a disaster in the making.

In all seriousness, though your using common sense to try and tell the future. Will I have no doubt this game will not be as awesome as previous DMC iterations. Yes I don't this this game will. I never said they match up, and isn't Capcom working with enslaved. The gamers a long ways away. Lets just sit and wait to see what happens I mean we saw ONE trailer for cryin out loud.
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[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Standard of the series? :? Devil May Cry have been flip-flopping from great to poor releases.

Swift_Boss_A

DMC2 was the only weak link in the series but I predict this new DmC will be the worst of the bunch. Personally I don't even want to associate it with DMC so Im glad it's a reboot and not part of the proper DMC franchise. I just hope Capcom opens their eyes to this trash and returns to making proper DMC titles but I doubt they will. The decent thing that can at least do is sell the IP to Platinum and let Kamiya have his baby again.

DMC4 was nowhere close to the quality of DMC3 or the original.

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[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"][QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Standard of the series? :? Devil May Cry have been flip-flopping from great to poor releases.

Gxgear

DMC2 was the only weak link in the series but I predict this new DmC will be the worst of the bunch. Personally I don't even want to associate it with DMC so Im glad it's a reboot and not part of the proper DMC franchise. I just hope Capcom opens their eyes to this trash and returns to making proper DMC titles but I doubt they will. The decent thing that can at least do is sell the IP to Platinum and let Kamiya have his baby again.

DMC4 was nowhere close to the quality of DMC3 or the original.

How so? Dante pretty much played the same in DMC4. The only problem with DMC4 was the repetition of the environment but otherwise the gameplay was on par. Only reason it didnt score as high was because it didn't really try anything new in terms of gameplay. Nero was fun but the gameplay wasn't drastically different.
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]They made 2 games this gen and both got an 8 here. The barely would make more sense if they lets say made like 6 or moregames this gen and only 1 or 2 got an 8.Swift_Boss_A
They may have only made two games this gen but considering the games are mostly flash and no substance I reckon they are going to have an hard time getting AA scores with the trash that is DmC. Normally Im not that harsh o devs and I would have given NT a chance but they left the starting line with DMC in a horrible condition, the trailer screamed fail imo. Also keep in mind they made a game last gen called Kung-Fu Chaos which got a 6.5 here, DmC will be another Kung Fu chaos of this gen, and believe me this game will be chaos (not in the cool GOW3 way but in the awful sense).

The trailer screamed awsome imo. I bet all you could think about is ewww the new dante modellooks like crap and bam the game automatically sucks which is what 95% people did.