Will Japan ever give Western RPGs a chance?

Americans seem to love both JRPGs and WRPGs. Japanwill only play JRPGs it seems. Why do the Japanese despise WRPGs so much?AvIdGaMeR444

i dunno i think its MAINLY a japan only problemcuz other asian countrieslike china WRPG like WoW are as big in popularity as in USA

my dad went to japan an said they just dont really LIKE americans a whole lot diff culuture over there they like themselves the most etc

No.

Get over it.

NO because alot of japanses gamers are narrow minded and think that anything that comes out of the west is either shallow or a shooter :roll:

They can go ahead and have fun with there rehash generic JRPG's americans and western countriesare opend minded to ALL games not just one set.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

JRPGs that sell in the West:

-Final Fantasy
-Dark Cloud sold 100k! Therefore it's a sucess!

We're on a roll!

The japanese dont really like americans....im i wouldnt be surprised if this was the reason WRPG do well over there...i guess its the whole different culture as wellDante2710

But Ipod sells well there, and Japanese seem to love American movies. A lot of American movies release in Japan.

If they don't like KoTOR or Oblivion, there's no help for that.shaggygrosser

They like Oblivion. KoTOR was never released there.

[QUOTE="Dante2710"]The japanese dont really like americans....im i wouldnt be surprised if this was the reason WRPG do well over there...i guess its the whole different culture as wellAvIdGaMeR444

But Ipod sells well there, and Japanese seem to love American movies. A lot of American movies release in Japan.

Probably not, if they haven't caught on by now there's no reason to believe they ever will.

That being said, they do have a cult following in Japan.

[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

[QUOTE="Dante2710"]The japanese dont really like americans....im i wouldnt be surprised if this was the reason WRPG do well over there...i guess its the whole different culture as wellDante2710

But Ipod sells well there, and Japanese seem to love American movies. A lot of American movies release in Japan.

Because they don't shove their heads up american/western culture and what is liked or disliked in the west, we should judge them for it. Why do robot mech games sell so bad in the west, or the fact that left field "emotional" games seem to suffer in sales, Ico on first release was bought by exactly 17 people and a dog.Hoobinator

to bad MTV already got there.

And the Japanese buy some horrible games that wouldn't and don'tcut it in the West. (Gundam anyone)

[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

[QUOTE="Dante2710"]The japanese dont really like americans....im i wouldnt be surprised if this was the reason WRPG do well over there...i guess its the whole different culture as wellblue_hazy_basic

But Ipod sells well there, and Japanese seem to love American movies. A lot of American movies release in Japan.

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

NO because alot of japanses gamers are narrow minded and think that anything that comes out of the west is either shallow or a shooter :roll:

They can go ahead and have fun with there rehash generic JRPG's americans and western countriesare opend minded to ALL games not just one set.

Eponique

JRPGs that sell in the West:

-Final Fantasy
-Dark Cloud sold 100k! Therefore it's a sucess!

We're on a roll!

Golden Sun , Star Ocean 3, Symphonia..someothers have sold a lot...BUT, . doesn't Matter if FF sells a million, it still sold a million and JRPG's are still popular here. Do all WRPG's sell a million here!!??? Your point has truly failed. Fact= WRPG's are not popular in Japan. PERIOD.

Also DC sold half a million in U.S FYI.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

[QUOTE="Dante2710"]The japanese dont really like americans....im i wouldnt be surprised if this was the reason WRPG do well over there...i guess its the whole different culture as wellDante2710

But Ipod sells well there, and Japanese seem to love American movies. A lot of American movies release in Japan.

[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

[QUOTE="Dante2710"]The japanese dont really like americans....im i wouldnt be surprised if this was the reason WRPG do well over there...i guess its the whole different culture as wellblue_hazy_basic

But Ipod sells well there, and Japanese seem to love American movies. A lot of American movies release in Japan.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a place like that. Japanese are very xenophobic. A Japanese 360 speaking Korean caused a national uproar.

[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

[QUOTE="Dante2710"]The japanese dont really like americans....im i wouldnt be surprised if this was the reason WRPG do well over there...i guess its the whole different culture as wellblue_hazy_basic

But Ipod sells well there, and Japanese seem to love American movies. A lot of American movies release in Japan.

ummm no...i mean they have a sign on the door that says "Only rednecks" :?
Dante2710

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

NO because alot of japanses gamers are narrow minded and think that anything that comes out of the west is either shallow or a shooter :roll:

They can go ahead and have fun with there rehash generic JRPG's americans and western countriesare opend minded to ALL games not just one set.

Eponique

JRPGs that sell in the West:

-Final Fantasy
-Dark Cloud sold 100k! Therefore it's a sucess!

We're on a roll!

and dragon quest

and alot more which I dont remeber or care to name, Americans buy up Jrpg's thats the truth to say other wise is just opinion or your just in denial.

You do realize that Westerners didn't give Western RPG's a chance until they were off of PC's onto the Xbox? Well besides Diablo (which Japan doesn't like PC gaming due to ridiculous high priced component parts (for the country).

Also noting that every single high profile WRPG game *Sales Wise* is on the well Xbox.

And the tales sereies

and dragon quest

and alot more which I dont remeber or care to name, Americans buy up Jrpg's thats the truth to say other wise is just opinion or your just in denial.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

The best selling Tales game in the West (Symphonia) sold barely over 200,000 copies, and despite Square-Enix's huge campaign DQVIII (the best selling in NA) sold barely half a million. The only truly successful JRPG series is Final Fantasy (due to a $100 million ad campaign, Kingdom Hears (no brainer), and Poke'mon (it's Nintendo).

[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]Americans seem to love both JRPGs and WRPGs. Japanwill only play JRPGs it seems. Why do the Japanese despise WRPGs so much?ProtossRushX

i dunno i think its MAINLY a japan only problemcuz other asian countrieslike china WRPG like WoW are as big in popularity as in USA

my dad went to japan an said they just dont really LIKE americans a whole lot diff culuture over there they like themselves the most etc

[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

NO because alot of japanses gamers are narrow minded and think that anything that comes out of the west is either shallow or a shooter :roll:

They can go ahead and have fun with there rehash generic JRPG's americans and western countriesare opend minded to ALL games not just one set.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

JRPGs that sell in the West:

-Final Fantasy
-Dark Cloud sold 100k! Therefore it's a sucess!

We're on a roll!

and dragon quest

and alot more which I dont remeber or care to name, Americans buy up Jrpg's thats the truth to say other wise is just opinion or your just in denial.

JRPG's just like Anime are widely popular in U.S and the world, because they are NOT japanese things, fighting dragons, with spells and having funky looking characters...they can appeal to anyone...when it comes to Japan..medievil themes , and star wars type games are just a no no.

Golden Sun , Star Ocean 3, Symphonia..someothers have sold a lot...BUT, . doesn't Matter if FF sells a million, it still sold a million and JRPG's are still popular here. Do all WRPG's sell a million here!!??? Your point has truly failed. Fact= WRPG's are not popular in Japan. PERIOD.

Also DC sold half a million in U.S FYI.

Kratos_OMEGA

I'm not sure about Golden Sun but none of those games are even 3/4th to a million seller. People have to remember that Japan is smaller then the U.S. So to get the equavlilence to their game sales to ours, you must multiply everything by 2.5 exactly. So in contrast The Elder Scrolls Oblivion in Japan is just a little more popular then Tales of Symphonia is here.

You do realize that Westerners didn't give Western RPG's a chance until they were off of PC's onto the Xbox? Well besides Diablo (which Japan doesn't like PC gaming due to ridiculous high priced component parts (for the country).

Also noting that every single high profile WRPG game *Sales Wise* is on the well Xbox.

Gunraidan

The japanese dont really like americans...i wouldnt be surprised if this was the reason WRPG dont do well over there...i guess its the whole different culture as wellDante2710

JRPG's just like Anime are widely popular in U.S and the world, because they are NOT japanese things, fighting dragons, with spells and having funky looking characters...they can appeal to anyone...when it comes to Japan..medievil themes , and star wars type games are just a no no.

Kratos_OMEGA

Anime popular in the U.S.?

I'm sorry but the anime industry is light years away from even being mainstream.

Anime DVD sales are nowhere near the movie sales, Inuyasha series for example has only sold a combined total of 1 million DVD's, and with series still not reaching prime time or past the Adult Swim or Saturday morning cartoon block. Yes it is more popular then ever but that isn't really saying much, anime doesn't really expand beyond those very few hit Saturday morning cartoons alongside with their highschool and college niche.

Also Star Wars is huge in Japan, alongside Lord of the Rings...

Yea that Baldurs Gate was a bag of old balls that no one had ever heard of. World of warcraft? WTF is that? Ultima, Might and Magic, Forgotten Realms???? Are you on crack? Never heard of 'em.blue_hazy_basic

First of all most of the game you listed aren't mainstream. Actually the only one being is World of Warcraft which came out a few years ago. High sales doesn't always = mainstream. CounterStrike has outsold any Halo game, yet if I ask someone off the street most wouldn't know what CounterStrike is but instantly reconize Halo.

because they hated America since WW2liquidsnake1987

[QUOTE="liquidsnake1987"]because they hated America since WW2Erkidu

[QUOTE="liquidsnake1987"]because they hated America since WW2Erkidu

Just ignore them and their conspiracy theories, these are the same people who claim that people who have a life and just focus on playing games from time to time are going to kill the entire game industry.

calm down kid, people just come to system wars to kill some time, nobody takes it seriously i hope
liquidsnake1987

Believe it or not......some people do.

USA & UK are the 2 biggest nations that cant keep thier idenity for 5 seconds, we borrow from all cultures, we dont exactly stranghten our own cultures, more of the case we tare it down into an unrecognizable mess.

Except maybe US with its Wargasms ( j/k j/k ).

Japan especially likes thier own culture to the point where they dont really pay interest in others, makes sense though because they have a strong themed artistic influence.

I kinda rambled i think you can get the point.

[QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="liquidsnake1987"]because they hated America since WW2liquidsnake1987

USA & UK are the 2 biggest nations that cant keep thier idenity for 5 seconds, we borrow from all cultures, we dont exactly stranghten our own cultures, more of the case we tare it down into an unrecognizable mess.

Except maybe US with its Wargasms ( j/k j/k ).

Japan especially likes thier own culture to the point where they dont really pay interest in others, makes sense though because they have a strong themed artistic influence.

I kinda rambled i think you can get the point.

Meu2k7

Japan. A different culture. They have different tastes in video games. Who would've thought?

because they hated America since WW2liquidsnake1987

Umm...today's generation of Japanese don't really care about what happened in WW2. If you ask someone in their 60's-70's, they may still hold some resentment.

[QUOTE="liquidsnake1987"][QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="liquidsnake1987"]because they hated America since WW2Erkidu

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

USA & UK are the 2 biggest nations that cant keep thier idenity for 5 seconds, we borrow from all cultures, we dont exactly stranghten our own cultures, more of the case we tare it down into an unrecognizable mess.

Except maybe US with its Wargasms ( j/k j/k ).

Japan especially likes thier own culture to the point where they dont really pay interest in others, makes sense though because they have a strong themed artistic influence.

I kinda rambled i think you can get the point.

blue_hazy_basic

I know, I'm Welsh ... but nowhere in the UK really has a strong aesthetical culture now really does it? compared to France for example.

Our culture for the most part is, WEEKENDS BINGE DRINKING, Football/Rugby , Heavily multicultural, Jumping on every foreign fad.

Hell we even binge off American culture alot ... god knows why >>

Sure we are all devided by our little difference, but down to the core, theres not much aesthetically pleaseing for the rest of the world to enjoy, although this could be a case of "the grass is always greener on the other side" by me though.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

USA & UK are the 2 biggest nations that cant keep thier idenity for 5 seconds, we borrow from all cultures, we dont exactly stranghten our own cultures, more of the case we tare it down into an unrecognizable mess.

Except maybe US with its Wargasms ( j/k j/k ).

Japan especially likes thier own culture to the point where they dont really pay interest in others, makes sense though because they have a strong themed artistic influence.

I kinda rambled i think you can get the point.

Meu2k7

I know, I'm Welsh ... but nowhere in the UK really has a strong aesthetical culture now really does it? compared to France for example.

Our culture for the most part is, WEEKENDS BINGE DRINKING, Football/Rugby , Heavily multicultural, Jumping on every foreign fad.

Hell we even binge off American culture alot ... god knows why >>

Sure we are all devided by our little difference, but down to the core, theres not much aesthetically pleaseing for the rest of the world to enjoy, although this could be a case of "the grass is always greener on the other side" by me though.

If you don't believe me head to Northern Ireland on the 12th or a celtic festival in Ireland, Wales or Scotland. (as examples). I read a thesis by a Danish scholar studying in the Black Country, whos English was fair at best, who was stunned to find he could understand much of thelocal dialect which had survived over a 1000 years.

Don't get me wrong, with TV and the internet cultural boundaries are eroding in the UK but they are still there.

EDIT this is all a little off topic and high brow for SW!:P