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#1 the-very-best
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What do you guys think? Will Killzone be the killer app for the PS3 ie. will it have extremely good graphics (like Gears), sell extremely well (like Gears), and get a great score (like Gears)?

I think Sony is relying on this game to sell PS3's this Christmas and wouldn't be surprised if it sells extremely well very quickly since I'm sure it will get exceedingly aggresive marketing, much like the original. I don't think the graphics will match the original trailer but I do think they'll be exceptional. As for it's score, AA minimum.

What do you guys think?
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#2 web966
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I hated the first one so im not to excited for this one.
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#3 lafigueroa
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The Way I see it, Resistance is PS3's Gears right now. Now, If Killzone 2 Actually has everything it should, It could raise the bar for Sony. However, Guerilla Games has a notorious history of having GREAT trailers end up underpar when it comes to controls and A.I.
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#4 blurb1324
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Judging by it's predecessor, I'd say no. I agree with all your points, but I don't think it'll be close to what Cows want (a sure-fire Gears killer).
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#5 SolidTy
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You're really hyping Killzone man...I don't know about that.

Still, I hope it's good, good games I like to buy, but until then Gears of War and REsistance are great enough for me.

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#6 the-very-best
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The Way I see it, Resistance is PS3's Gears right now. Now, If Killzone 2 Actually has everything it should, It could raise the bar for Sony. However, Guerilla Games has a notorious history of having GREAT trailers end up underpar when it comes to controls and A.I.lafigueroa


Resistance is nothing like Gears. It doesn't have outstanding graphics, it hasn't sold incredibly, and it didn't get an outstanding score, so it is no way a killer app.
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#7 Nike_Air
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One could only hope for a AA score and a million seller at this point.


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#8 hellzhitman
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    I read the back of Killzone's box and was all :shock: and then I saw the reviews and am all " What a bunch of bull****":P
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#9 cakeorrdeath
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Maybe but lets at least wait untill we have seen 1 second of Gameplay.
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#10 the-very-best
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You're really hyping Killzone man...I don't know about that.

Still, I hope it's good, good games I like to buy, but until then Gears of War and REsistance are great enough for me.

SolidTy


The original had potential, and the story was interesting. I know many on SW disagree but I think PS2's limitations held the game back from being truly great (plus, I'm sure it was rushed).

I don't think they're rushing it this time and it has a massive budget with over 120 devs working on it. Plus, Sony needs something against Halo 3. I'd be very surprised if KZ got less than AA.
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#11 Master_Hermes
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No, it won't be Sony's Gears of War, it'll be Sony's Red Steel. Why the hell are cows hyping this game? It's not like Killzone 1 was any good and it's not like we've seen anything about Killzone 2 except a CGI trailer from two years ago. I'll ask again, Cows, why the damn hell are you hyping this? You people are setting yourselves up for hardcore ownage.
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#12 lawlessx
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if the devs are close to matching what they shown at E3..yes it can be sony's killer app this year question: is there a reason why people are calling killzone2 killzone? is that sony's way of trying to get people to forget the first killzone was on the ps2?
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#13 the-very-best
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]if the devs are close to matching what they shown at E3..yes it can be sony's killer app this year question: is there a reason why people are calling killzone2 killzone? is that sony's way of trying to get people to forget the first killzone was on the ps2?



haha, no I don't think so. It's just unlikely they'll name it "Killzone 2" when "Halo 3" is out at the same time. That's my guess anyway. Plus, the trailer didn't actually name it "Killzone 2".

It will probably be like the PSP version which was "Killzone: Liberation" so this one maybe "Killzone: We've got nice graphics" or something.
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It will probably look great, and will probably sell really well because of the advertisement and the graphics, but it will never be as good as Gears. I doubt that 2nd rate gaming company can compete with Epic Games.
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#15 drsexual2
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this is very funny, i mean, when Killzone for ps2 it was the sony's Halo................Now after ""flopping""( cuz it did) KILLZONE is the sony´s GeOW.......... i mean wake up!  
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#16 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="lawlessx"]if the devs are close to matching what they shown at E3..yes it can be sony's killer app this year question: is there a reason why people are calling killzone2 killzone? is that sony's way of trying to get people to forget the first killzone was on the ps2?



haha, no I don't think so. It's just unlikely they'll name it "Killzone 2" when "Halo 3" is out at the same time. That's my guess anyway. Plus, the trailer didn't actually name it "Killzone 2".

It will probably be like the PSP version which was "Killzone: Liberation" so this one maybe "Killzone: We've got nice graphics" or something.

my bet is they're naming it "killzone" because they felt so ashamed for hyping the first one to be a "halo killer" that sony and the dev said " ok as of right now..killzone never released" :lol:
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#17 DonPerian
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Off Topic: Why are all your threads posted in this question format? It's pretty funny how serious it sounds. On Topic: I don't know. I haven't played it. But from past experiance with the Killzone franchise, my prediction is no.
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#18 marinebro0306
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What do you guys think? Will Killzone be the killer app for the PS3 ie. will it have extremely good graphics (like Gears), sell extremely well (like Gears), and get a great score (like Gears)?

I think Sony is relying on this game to sell PS3's this Christmas and wouldn't be surprised if it sells extremely well very quickly since I'm sure it will get exceedingly aggresive marketing, much like the original. I don't think the graphics will match the original trailer but I do think they'll be exceptional. As for it's score, AA minimum.

What do you guys think?
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Killzone will be the PS3s Bomberman: Act Zero.
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#19 Tony_aaaa
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As far as living up to its "real-time" trailer claim, I'd say Killzone will be Sony's Vietnam.

Good luck winning that war Sony.

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#20 daveg1
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i thought resistence was the ps3's' gears.....................:o
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#21 -DreamTheater-
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It doesn't matter how good a game looks, if it plays like **** the game will suck. The first Killzone looked great on the PS2, but that didn't mean anything because the gameplay sucked, there were tons of glitches, and it lagged all the time.
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#22 the-very-best
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my bet is they're naming it "killzone" because they felt so ashamed for hyping the first one to be a "halo killer" that sony and the dev said " ok as of right now..killzone never released" :lol:lawlessx


lol, perhaps, although I don't think they'd be ashamed of the original since it sold over 4.5 million copies I read.
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[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="lawlessx"]if the devs are close to matching what they shown at E3..yes it can be sony's killer app this year question: is there a reason why people are calling killzone2 killzone? is that sony's way of trying to get people to forget the first killzone was on the ps2?



haha, no I don't think so. It's just unlikely they'll name it "Killzone 2" when "Halo 3" is out at the same time. That's my guess anyway. Plus, the trailer didn't actually name it "Killzone 2".

It will probably be like the PSP version which was "Killzone: Liberation" so this one maybe "Killzone: We've got nice graphics" or something.



Am I to understand that you think Killzone 2 will actually compete with Halo 3 for people's attention? That is a laugh, good sir. If Killzone 2 is released anywhere near Halo 3, Microsoft's hype machine will steam roll it. Killzone would shrivel up and die, even if it did end up being a great game. Sony is going try and get this bastard as far away from Halo's path as possible.


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#24 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="Master_Hermes"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="lawlessx"]if the devs are close to matching what they shown at E3..yes it can be sony's killer app this year question: is there a reason why people are calling killzone2 killzone? is that sony's way of trying to get people to forget the first killzone was on the ps2?



haha, no I don't think so. It's just unlikely they'll name it "Killzone 2" when "Halo 3" is out at the same time. That's my guess anyway. Plus, the trailer didn't actually name it "Killzone 2".

It will probably be like the PSP version which was "Killzone: Liberation" so this one maybe "Killzone: We've got nice graphics" or something.



Am I to understand that you think Killzone 2 will actually compete with Halo 3 for people's attention? That is a laugh, good sir. If Killzone 2 is released anywhere near Halo 3, Microsoft's hype machine will steam roll it. Killzone would shrivel up and die, even if it did end up being a great game. Sony is going try and get this bastard as far away from Halo's path as possible.


yeah i agree..halo's hyped will completely overshadow killzone2
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#25 SmashBrosLegend
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If the game is anything like the first, then no. It had better make some huge changes if it is going to sell. Anything is possible, but I do not see this happening.
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#26 cakeorrdeath
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"] yeah i agree..halo's hyped will completely overshadow killzone2



Deja vu. I had this exact argument with the-very best the other day.
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#27 Gamer46
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AA minimum?  That leads me to believe you think this trash could possibly AAA?  :lol:  Why don't you just say right now that you think this game will be awesome and destroy Halo 3 both in review scores and at retail.

Cows. :roll:
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first one was okay and i'm kinda wondering weather having 100+ devs working is good because they're putting alot of time and effort into making a good game or bad because the PS3 is that hard to program. hopefully it can be as good as GEOW but most likely not
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#29 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="lawlessx"] yeah i agree..halo's hyped will completely overshadow killzone2



Deja vu. I had this exact argument with the-very best the other day.

oh really? what was the argument and who pulled a made-man and stopped posting? lol

edit: im sorry i meant to ask what side of the debate were you on.
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#30 cakeorrdeath
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first one was okay and i'm kinda wondering weather having 100+ devs working is good because they're putting alot of time and effort into making a good game or bad because the PS3 is that hard to program. hopefully it can be as good as GEOW but most likely notRagashahs


Have they licensed the Unreal 3 engine?
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#31 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]first one was okay and i'm kinda wondering weather having 100+ devs working is good because they're putting alot of time and effort into making a good game or bad because the PS3 is that hard to program. hopefully it can be as good as GEOW but most likely notcakeorrdeath


Have they licensed the Unreal 3 engine?

i believe he was talking about gears of war's fun factor
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#32 the-very-best
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Am I to understand that you think Killzone 2 will actually compete with Halo 3 for people's attention? That is a laugh, good sir. If Killzone 2 is released anywhere near Halo 3, Microsoft's hype machine will steam roll it. Killzone would shrivel up and die, even if it did end up being a great game. Sony is going try and get this bastard as far away from Halo's path as possible.
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KZ will probably be released within a month before or after the release of Halo 3 I think.

Do you expect Sony to just stand by and watch Halo 3 dominate sales? Obviously they're going to something about it. They're obviously going to market KZ very aggressively and while I definitely think Halo 3 will sell more I also think KZ will be a top seller this christmas.
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No.
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erm let me look into my crystal ball.
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]my bet is they're naming it "killzone" because they felt so ashamed for hyping the first one to be a "halo killer" that sony and the dev said " ok as of right now..killzone never released" :lol:the-very-best


lol, perhaps, although I don't think they'd be ashamed of the original since it sold over 4.5 million copies I read.

vgcharts has it listed at 364,000 copies sold for NA.



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#36 cakeorrdeath
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"] i believe he was talking about gears of war's fun factor



I was just wandering if they have licensed an engine? Because if not that will be where alot of the man power and budget is going.
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KZ will probably be released within a month before or after the release of Halo 3 I think.

Do you expect Sony to just stand by and watch Halo 3 dominate sales? Obviously they're going to something about it. They're obviously going to market KZ very aggressively and while I definitely think Halo 3 will sell more I also think KZ will be a top seller this christmas.
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Sony can want to stop Halo all they want but there are just some games you can't fight against.

It would be like bringing out a new MMO and trying to stop sales of burning Crusade.
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#38 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="lawlessx"] i believe he was talking about gears of war's fun factor



I was just wandering if they have licensed an engine? Because if not that will be where alot of the man power and budget is going.

i honestly don't know..then again..what does anybody really know about killzone2 besides its very cool trailer and it's 100 million budget
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#39 thefjk
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I'll just wait and see... its hard to see anything for Killzone2!
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#40 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="the-very-best"]

KZ will probably be released within a month before or after the release of Halo 3 I think.

Do you expect Sony to just stand by and watch Halo 3 dominate sales? Obviously they're going to something about it. They're obviously going to market KZ very aggressively and while I definitely think Halo 3 will sell more I also think KZ will be a top seller this christmas.
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Sony can want to stop Halo all they want but there are just some games you can't fight against.

It would be like bringing out a new MMO and trying to stop sales of burning Crusade.

and the media will come out of no where and say " this is sony's answer to wow" in all the gaming mags
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#41 cakeorrdeath
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i honestly don't know..then again..what does anybody really know about killzone2 besides its very cool trailer and it's 100 million budget lawlessx


I believe the Budget was $21 million
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#42 beat89
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Seeing as how the first one was supposed to be Sony's Halo, I very much doubt this one will be their Gears.
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]i honestly don't know..then again..what does anybody really know about killzone2 besides its very cool trailer and it's 100 million budget cakeorrdeath


I believe the Budget was $21 million



Yeah, 120 devs and a budget that "surpasses $20 million".
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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="lawlessx"]i honestly don't know..then again..what does anybody really know about killzone2 besides its very cool trailer and it's 100 million budget the-very-best


I believe the Budget was $21 million



Yeah, 120 devs and a budget that "surpasses $20 million".

whoa...well then somebody has to inform the guys in the ps3 board because they have been saying 100 mill for months
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#45 the-very-best
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Sony can want to stop Halo all they want but there are just some games you can't fight against.

It would be like bringing out a new MMO and trying to stop sales of burning Crusade.
cakeorrdeath


You're underestimating Sony's hype machine...

I think Sony just want to minimize Halo 3's impact. We all know it will surpass KZ in sales by a significant amount, but Sony will try and cut that hype by releasing a game with nicer graphics, and to many casuals, that means its a better game.
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Killzone 2?  Who effin cares about Killzone?  Killzone 2 is about as relevant as Prey 2.

Killer app?  System seller?  HELL NO.

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#47 cakeorrdeath
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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="lawlessx"]i honestly don't know..then again..what does anybody really know about killzone2 besides its very cool trailer and it's 100 million budget the-very-best


I believe the Budget was $21 million



Yeah, 120 devs and a budget that "surpasses $20 million".



Like the Wii was to be  under $250?:wink:


I think 20 million is about average nowadays for a really big title. I think it was only really news because it was a record breaking budget for Holland.


Lost Planet cost $20 million to make and the same again in advertising.
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[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="lawlessx"]i honestly don't know..then again..what does anybody really know about killzone2 besides its very cool trailer and it's 100 million budget lawlessx


I believe the Budget was $21 million



Yeah, 120 devs and a budget that "surpasses $20 million".

whoa...well then somebody has to inform the guys in the ps3 board because they have been saying 100 mill for months



Really? They've been saying 100 million?

Why? That's how much it cost to make movies like Rush Hour...or Mr and Mrs Smith...I doubt KZ will reach that kind of special effects in those movies.

$20 million is still an incredible amount of money to spend on one game.
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#49 cakeorrdeath
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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]Sony can want to stop Halo all they want but there are just some games you can't fight against.

It would be like bringing out a new MMO and trying to stop sales of burning Crusade.
the-very-best


You're underestimating Sony's hype machine...

I think Sony just want to minimize Halo 3's impact. We all know it will surpass KZ in sales by a significant amount, but Sony will try and cut that hype by releasing a game with nicer graphics, and to many casuals, that means its a better game.



Halo has the best graphics regardless of reality to many casuals. You are always going on about how Sony's brand recognition will mean there dominance in console sales.

What makes this situation different?


Plus how do you know that Killzone will end up having the better graphics?
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#50 the-very-best
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Like the Wii was to be under $250?:wink:


I think 20 million is about average nowadays for a really big title. I think it was only really news because it was a record breaking budget for Holland.


Lost Planet cost $20 million to make and the same again in advertising.
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LP cost that much? Gears only cost $10 million didn't it?

A lot of sites are making the $20 million a big deal though for KZ. I bet you anything they spend more on advertising than they did on developing the game.