Will Mass Effect be one one DVD?

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#1 catlin_czirr
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From what I have heard this game is going to be HUGE! And I was wondering is it possible to make a game with this much dialoge, that looks this good, and has so much content fit on a single DVD?
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#2 -Sora
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Yea i think it is on one disc.
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#3 Infinatey
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Yes. They had trouble doing this....especially with no HDD standard, but they did it. Although, the things that could be (audio, others) were compressed, and the game can get choppy, even with so few things on the screen.

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#4 Bansheesdie
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No its two. BioWare put the entire love scene on its own disc. :D

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#5 catlin_czirr
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Yes. They had trouble doing this....especially with no HDD standard, but they did it. Although, the things that could be (audio, others) were compressed, and the game can get choppy, even with so few things on the screen.

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I also noticed "popups" not sure what else to call it, is this due to compression, or is is something to due with the UE3, because I have noticed it in Gears, and R6:vegas.
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#6 borgmaster
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the dev's didn't say otherwise, so it's probably on one disk.
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#7 Ragashahs
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it would be much better if they required an HDD or use 2 disc than try and cram it on one disc and face problems
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#8 Pro_wrestler
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70+ hours of gameplay on one DVD
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#9 SIP_YEK_NOD
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Oblivion is only about 400mb larger than a single layer dvd. WHEN mass effect fits on a single DVD, it should end all the dvd doubt.

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#10 Primevil702
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Oblivion is only about 400mb larger than a single layer dvd. WHEN mass effect fits on a single DVD, it should end all the dvd doubt.

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Heh - I disagree. There are PS2 games that filled DVD's, not to mention lots of 360 games will start hitting the max capacity of DVD's. If you noticed someone up above mentioned they had issues getting it all on the disk - and we're at what, the 2nd year into the 360's life? What about 4 years from now? Games, like always.. will get larger. Compression only goes so far, and in MS's case due to the fact they STILL sell the Core model, most developers will develop with all SKU's in mind - meaning no HDD caching support in many games that need them.

The fact that Sony included the Blu-Ray standard was just an awesome decision IMO, sure, it's lead to high prices... but like all bleeding edge tech... it comes down in price, and fast depending on the adoption rate. I really think Sony's decision will pay off in spades - we're already seeing the results in the PS3 games we're going to be seeing over the 07-08 period.

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#11 tooELEET
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MS should just forget about the Core model and allow developers to make their games require a harddrive. No one cares about Core owners. :P
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#12 JackBurton28
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I'm still lost as to why having 2 disks is a bad thing. In multiplayer games you wouldn't need to use them both and when in a single player campain you just switch them out when it calls for it which would be once if you are playing straight through...this truely boggles me...
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#13 Primevil702
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MS should just forget about the Core model and allow developers to make their games require a harddrive. No one cares about Core owners. :PtooELEET

I agree - MS really kinda jacked up on that one, and at this point dropping the support for the core would probably mess with MS's image even more, and they don't need that. Should have been a HDD standard, they had it right with the Xbox, and then took a step backwards with the 360.

Oblivion takes up something like 4.4gigs on my PS3 HDD, all for caching data.

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#15 idontknow1110
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i don't get why it matters if it fits on one or two dvd's. would it kill you to get up and replace a dvd? I mean sure its best if it can fit on one, but its not that big of a deal.
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#16 Pariah_001
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MGS and God of War required dual layers. If PS2 games are gonna hit the limit, I can't imagine the 360 games are far behind.
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I don't mind switching out disks, heck my some of my all time favorite games had more then one disk : Any FF game on the PS MGS Didn't stop those from being classics. But I still have to agree, MS screwed up by making the HDD optional this time around. Would have saved the devs a lot of problems.
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#18 gmastersexay
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http://kotaku.com/gaming/microsoft/mass-effect-shoe+horned-on-one-disc-240249.php

"This is a monstrous game. In fact, there was a time - not too long ago - when we pretty much scoffed at the idea of fitting onto one disc. But, there's an art to optimizing the data that goes on a disc - plus we have a few programmers that seem to pull off magic tricks right when we need them."

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#19 Idonomeus
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When it's released the two biggest current gen games will be single DVD games - Oblivion and Mass Effect. Blue ray is nice and all but developers have yet to use that much space with anything besides FMV or uncompressed files. I don't pretend to know what will happen in the future though.
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#20 Idonomeus
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Oblivion fit onto one disc just fine, but look at all the reused data in that game.. The textures im every dungeon was the same. I don't know if that was by design or what, considering that morrowind was the same way on PC.

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That was due to the budget the developers had. They had plenty of space left on the disc. Even if developers had unlimited disc space they don't have unlimited time and money.

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#21 PBSnipes
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Its one disk, barely one disk but one disk all the same. And when you think of not only the massive amount of content, but that every single line of dialogue is spoken, thats pretty damn impressive.
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#22 Ragashahs
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I don't mind switching out disks, heck my some of my all time favorite games had more then one disk : Any FF game on the PS MGS Didn't stop those from being classics. But I still have to agree, MS screwed up by making the HDD optional this time around. Would have saved the devs a lot of problems.myke2010
what happens when you have to change disc every time you want to explore the other half of the milky way galaxy. for linear games disc changing if fine but for free roame games it takes away from it
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#23 Idonomeus
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[QUOTE="myke2010"]I don't mind switching out disks, heck my some of my all time favorite games had more then one disk : Any FF game on the PS MGS Didn't stop those from being classics. But I still have to agree, MS screwed up by making the HDD optional this time around. Would have saved the devs a lot of problems.Ragashahs
what happens when you have to change disc every time you want to explore the other half of the milky way galaxy. for linear games disc changing if fine but for free roame games it takes away from it

The developer would have to work around it so it's not annoying. Take Shenmue for example. It was kind of free roaming and used 4 discs but changing the discs was never annoying.

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I'm willing to bet that this game had to make some serious cuts just to be on one disc. It may not be too noticeable, however I'm willing to bet when it comes to the PC or so, that it will have a "Director's Cut" which would have more planets an galaxies and content that couldn't fit on one DVD. It's just a hunch, but I wouldn't be suprised if it happened either.

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#25 htekemerald
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Yes. They had trouble doing this....especially with no HDD standard, but they did it. Although, the things that could be (audio, others) were compressed, and the game can get choppy, even with so few things on the screen.

Infinatey
What does frame rate have to do with ccompression?
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#26 Idonomeus
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I'm willing to bet that this game had to make some serious cuts just to be on one disc. It may not be too noticeable, however I'm willing to bet when it comes to the PC or so, that it will have a "Director's Cut" which would have more planets an galaxies and content that couldn't fit on one DVD. It's just a hunch, but I wouldn't be suprised if it happened either.

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Of course it would but it would be wrong to assume disc space would be the reason for that being the case. The extra development time would be the main reason. KOTOR did not come close to using up the max space avilable on Xbox but the PC version had extras, the same is true of Fable and I would bet the extra development time they had for the PC version was the reason.

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#27 PBSnipes
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I'm willing to bet that this game had to make some serious cuts just to be on one disc. It may not be too noticeable, however I'm willing to bet when it comes to the PC or so, that it will have a "Director's Cut" which would have more planets an galaxies and content that couldn't fit on one DVD. It's just a hunch, but I wouldn't be suprised if it happened either.

yoshi_64
Well assuming they do port it to PC (likely but Bioware might get the team working on ME2 right away, plus they have Dragon Age and the unnamed MMO coming to the PC) you'd be right, but only because Bioware has already confirmed DLC for the 360 continually between ME and ME2. A PC port would for sure have whatever DLC had been released up to that point in time.