Will Mass Effect be the Next BioShock? Heavy Hype and no Staying Power?

I recall being here when BioShock was all the rage. Everyone claiming ownage when BioShock was released, no cows and sheep could participate. BioShock earned everyone's vote for GOTY for months leading up to its release and then maybe for a day or two afterwards...since then, well, not much.

I know videogames are meant to come and go, but the great one's are ALWAYS brought up. Halo series, Final Fantasy, Zelda, Mario, God of War,they never go away. BioShock has vanished and I think it has more to do with the fact that it turned out to be a game that some didn't expect it to be. It was hyped like God, and then there were some complaints of it being, well, boring and over-hyped by past-hype enthusists. Some love it, and for good reason, but not all.

Mass Effect, I believe, will be the same thing. KOTOR was not for everyone, neither was Jade Empire. It is a rather niche market that can honestly get the most out of Mass Effect, but Lemmings hype it to be their Holiday Savior. How many Lems will buy the game, take it home, think it's awesome for an hour or two and then, just get bored. I'm guessing plenty, cause like BioShock, this game is not going to meet expectations of those believing it's another casual's wetdream, a game for everyone, another Halo for the X-Bots if you will.

And then, it will vanish. Yet again another game brought up countless times as a GOTY contender only to disappear till end-year when nominees and winners are announced. Does it mean it's a bad game? Not a chance, though I still personally feel it looks boring it will be a God-send for some fans of the genre. But for everyone? No. It's getting overhyped, overexposed and I doubt we'll be talking too much about it when number 2 comes along a couple years from now, or at least not in such a general sense.

It's not a shooter.

It has some substance.

No online.

It has a story.

Gamespot will flop it.

What exactly are you saying about Bioshock? I don't understand. Everything you named are SERIES games, so they're brought up b/c people anticipate the next one coming and owning. Bioshock so far has no plans to release a sequel. It's a great game. If there was plans for it to be a great franchise, it'd be brought up more. ME on the other hand, has the potential to be both, so it'll be brought up plenty.

BTW, Bioshock will win GOTY in most respectable sites/mags. It's probably the best game of this year.

I recall being here when BioShock was all the rage. Everyone claiming ownage when BioShock was released, no cows and sheep could participate. BioShock earned everyone's vote for GOTY for months leading up to its release and then maybe for a day or two afterwards...since then, well, not much.

I know videogames are meant to come and go, but the great one's are ALWAYS brought up. Halo series, Final Fantasy, Zelda, Mario, God of War,they never go away. BioShock has vanished and I think it has more to do with the fact that it turned out to be a game that some didn't expect it to be. It was hyped like God, and then there were some complaints of it being, well, boring and over-hyped by past-hype enthusists. Some love it, and for good reason, but not all.

Mass Effect, I believe, will be the same thing. KOTOR was not for everyone, neither was Jade Empire. It is a rather niche market that can honestly get the most out of Mass Effect, but Lemmings hype it to be their Holiday Savior. How many Lems will buy the game, take it home, think it's awesome for an hour or two and then, just get bored. I'm guessing plenty, cause like BioShock, this game is not going to meet expectations of those believing it's another casual's wetdream, a game for everyone, another Halo for the X-Bots if you will.

And then, it will vanish. Yet again another game brought up countless times as a GOTY contender only to disappear till end-year when nominees and winners are announced. Does it mean it's a bad game? Not a chance, though I still personally feel it looks boring it will be a God-send for some fans of the genre. But for everyone? No. It's getting overhyped, overexposed and I doubt we'll be talking too much about it when number 2 comes along a couple years from now, or at least not in such a general sense.

Nathan_Drake

The same thing will happen to Uncharted and R&C: FToD. It's only natural. Atleast lems have enough to play that they can move on and not talk about the past.

ME wont sell

just like kotor and jade empire.

a xbox is like the rpg graveyard

[QUOTE="Nathan_Drake"]

I recall being here when BioShock was all the rage. Everyone claiming ownage when BioShock was released, no cows and sheep could participate. BioShock earned everyone's vote for GOTY for months leading up to its release and then maybe for a day or two afterwards...since then, well, not much.

I know videogames are meant to come and go, but the great one's are ALWAYS brought up. Halo series, Final Fantasy, Zelda, Mario, God of War,they never go away. BioShock has vanished and I think it has more to do with the fact that it turned out to be a game that some didn't expect it to be. It was hyped like God, and then there were some complaints of it being, well, boring and over-hyped by past-hype enthusists. Some love it, and for good reason, but not all.

Mass Effect, I believe, will be the same thing. KOTOR was not for everyone, neither was Jade Empire. It is a rather niche market that can honestly get the most out of Mass Effect, but Lemmings hype it to be their Holiday Savior. How many Lems will buy the game, take it home, think it's awesome for an hour or two and then, just get bored. I'm guessing plenty, cause like BioShock, this game is not going to meet expectations of those believing it's another casual's wetdream, a game for everyone, another Halo for the X-Bots if you will.

And then, it will vanish. Yet again another game brought up countless times as a GOTY contender only to disappear till end-year when nominees and winners are announced. Does it mean it's a bad game? Not a chance, though I still personally feel it looks boring it will be a God-send for some fans of the genre. But for everyone? No. It's getting overhyped, overexposed and I doubt we'll be talking too much about it when number 2 comes along a couple years from now, or at least not in such a general sense.

blue_hazy_basic

No PS3 game has outsold BioShock within a 2 month timeline.

Why is everyone releating this to sales? I don't get it. I'm talking staying power as in pressence in the gaming community as a recognized standard for gaming. Like it was SUPPOSED to be according to hype. Yeah, it may be selling, but where are all the people who hyped it through the roof? Not talking about it....It disappeared.

Maybe if people on SW could learn that not everything has to do with sales....:roll:

ME wont sell

just like kotor and jade empire.

a xbox is like the rpg graveyard

niall077

KotOR sold 2M.

That's a lot more than Metal Gear Solid 3 sold.

Mass Effect = The next KOTOR.

Which means it's going to be one of the best RPG's of this generation, be talked about a tonne as people make their way through the long epic quest and remembered fondly for years, probably with a character or two coming up in any "Favourite videogame characters" polls for a long while with any luck.

Why is everyone releating this to sales? I don't get it. I'm talking staying power as in pressence in the gaming community as a recognized standard for gaming. Like it was SUPPOSED to be according to hype. Yeah, it may be selling, but where are all the people who hyped it through the roof? Not talking about it....It disappeared.

Maybe if people on SW could learn that not everything has to do with sales....:roll:

Nathan_Drake

It has appeared in the top 10 each month since release. That's not staying power? Hmm, I don't think anyone can understand your logic.

If you want to see people praise BioShock, then head on over to the BioShock Board. This is called System Wars for a reason, not BioShock Rulz Board.

It's not a shooter.

It has some substance.

No online.

It has a story.

Gamespot will flop it.

sexy_chimp

HAHA I see what you did there :lol:... time will tell but damn get over heavenly sword already.

Why is everyone releating this to sales? I don't get it. I'm talking staying power as in pressence in the gaming community as a recognized standard for gaming. Like it was SUPPOSED to be according to hype. Yeah, it may be selling, but where are all the people who hyped it through the roof? Not talking about it....It disappeared.

Maybe if people on SW could learn that not everything has to do with sales....:roll:

Nathan_Drake

a)being old/having been said before

or

b) being a fanboy

Wasn't Bioshock one of the top selling games of last month, even competing with Halo 3 in the top 5?? If that isn't staying power, then I don't know what is.cyborgjak427

it sold like 2 mil units thats not what i would call "all hype"Tactis

What exactly are you saying about Bioshock? I don't understand. Everything you named are SERIES games, so they're brought up b/c people anticipate the next one coming and owning. Bioshock so far has no plans to release a sequel. It's a great game. If there was plans for it to be a great franchise, it'd be brought up more. ME on the other hand, has the potential to be both, so it'll be brought up plenty.

BTW, Bioshock will win GOTY in most respectable sites/mags. It's probably the best game of this year.

manningbowl135

what he said

Why is everyone releating this to sales? I don't get it. I'm talking staying power as in pressence in the gaming community as a recognized standard for gaming. Like it was SUPPOSED to be according to hype. Yeah, it may be selling, but where are all the people who hyped it through the roof? Not talking about it....It disappeared.

Maybe if people on SW could learn that not everything has to do with sales....:roll:

Nathan_Drake

what are you talking about? Sales is staying power. If Kotor can sell 2M and Bioshock sell 2M that means a lot of people bought it and gave in to the hype and though it was a good game.

[QUOTE="niall077"]

ME wont sell

just like kotor and jade empire.

a xbox is like the rpg graveyard

Lilac_Benjie

KotOR sold 2M.

i'm not sure, but i heard Eternal Sonata did pretty well, too. i heard it might be headed to PS3. that's a good thing. all RPG fans should at least check this title out.

People bring up Bioshock all the time when they list good games out right now.

The games people tend to talk about are the ones that are upcoming, not the ones already released.

[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"][QUOTE="niall077"]

ME wont sell

just like kotor and jade empire.

a xbox is like the rpg graveyard

clone01

KotOR sold 2M.

i'm not sure, but i heard Eternal Sonata did pretty well, too. i heard it might be headed to PS3. that's a good thing. all RPG fans should at least check this title out.

Damn skippy...:D got my copy yesturday brilliant game I would give it AAA, havent had an RPG grip me since Morrowind.

It already went gold. Mass Effect has out sold Heavenly Sword and it not even out yet. Oh snap!! ME will be great no doubt.SystemWarrior

Heavenly Swords sales were spectacularly bad.With the media blitz around that game alone I expected 500k at least.

ME wont sell

just like kotor and jade empire.

a xbox is like the rpg graveyard

niall077

ME can sell only 1 copy worldwide and I would be happy. As long as the 1 copy is mine...

ME wont sell

just like kotor and jade empire.

a xbox is like the rpg graveyard

niall077

mass effect will probably be like kotor and be goty.

Why is everyone releating this to sales? I don't get it. I'm talking staying power as in pressence in the gaming community as a recognized standard for gaming. Like it was SUPPOSED to be according to hype. Yeah, it may be selling, but where are all the people who hyped it through the roof? Not talking about it....It disappeared.

Maybe if people on SW could learn that not everything has to do with sales....:roll:

Nathan_Drake

Seems to me you're just looking to bash. How about Heavenly Sword? That had big hype, if fairly shallow hype, but where's that now? Tyhat's really being forgotten, it's doing poorly in sales as well as average scores. And what makes you think Uncharted won't be same?

What exactly are you saying about Bioshock? I don't understand. Everything you named are SERIES games, so they're brought up b/c people anticipate the next one coming and owning. Bioshock so far has no plans to release a sequel. It's a great game. If there was plans for it to be a great franchise, it'd be brought up more. ME on the other hand, has the potential to be both, so it'll be brought up plenty.

BTW, Bioshock will win GOTY in most respectable sites/mags. It's probably the best game of this year.

manningbowl135

[QUOTE="niall077"]

ME wont sell

just like kotor and jade empire.

a xbox is like the rpg graveyard

Lilac_Benjie

KotOR sold 2M.

That's a lot more than Metal Gear Solid 3 sold.

which is more then 2M..... damm xbots cant even do maths now

[QUOTE="SystemWarrior"]It already went gold. Mass Effect has out sold Heavenly Sword and it not even out yet. Oh snap!! ME will be great no doubt.blue_hazy_basic

Heavenly Swords sales were spectacularly bad.With the media blitz around that game alone I expected 500k at least.

lets hope EA doesnt make it flop.hashyboy

The game was practically finished by the time they were baught out, so there's no chance of EA garbage being released this November:D.

I recall being here when BioShock was all the rage. Everyone claiming ownage when BioShock was released, no cows and sheep could participate. BioShock earned everyone's vote for GOTY for months leading up to its release and then maybe for a day or two afterwards...since then, well, not much.

I know videogames are meant to come and go, but the great one's are ALWAYS brought up. Halo series, Final Fantasy, Zelda, Mario, God of War,they never go away. BioShock has vanished and I think it has more to do with the fact that it turned out to be a game that some didn't expect it to be. It was hyped like God, and then there were some complaints of it being, well, boring and over-hyped by past-hype enthusists. Some love it, and for good reason, but not all.

Mass Effect, I believe, will be the same thing. KOTOR was not for everyone, neither was Jade Empire. It is a rather niche market that can honestly get the most out of Mass Effect, but Lemmings hype it to be their Holiday Savior. How many Lems will buy the game, take it home, think it's awesome for an hour or two and then, just get bored. I'm guessing plenty, cause like BioShock, this game is not going to meet expectations of those believing it's another casual's wetdream, a game for everyone, another Halo for the X-Bots if you will.

And then, it will vanish. Yet again another game brought up countless times as a GOTY contender only to disappear till end-year when nominees and winners are announced. Does it mean it's a bad game? Not a chance, though I still personally feel it looks boring it will be a God-send for some fans of the genre. But for everyone? No. It's getting overhyped, overexposed and I doubt we'll be talking too much about it when number 2 comes along a couple years from now, or at least not in such a general sense.

Nathan_Drake

KotOR was not for everyone, yet it's still considered to be the gold standard of console WRPGs and the #3 bestselling Xbox game, so I'm choosing not to put too much stock in your words.

I don't know what the topic creator means by "staying power". What is bioshock suppose to do know? get rereleased? It was hyped. It came out. People loved it. What else is there to a game?jack_russel

he got owned in another thread spouting similar stuff and so in his infinite wisdom decided to do it again. I think he means why aren't there a 100 threads spawned all over the boards praising Bioshock every day :?

...You've NEVER played a Bioware game, have you?Verge_6

KOTOR, and no, it's not for everyone. I enjoyed it, but not like what I get out of a JRPG.

You have to give this to Bioshock and ME if what you say is true. At least it wasn't bad. And you'd know it because it would be discussed all of the time. So, we know Bioshock is good and ME will be too.

But you may have a point at that staying-power thing. If there were no Bioshock 2, it would be due to the lack of need/want. That alone would say a ton. But that's all yet to be played out. I guess you could also compare first year sales for titles and that might be a good meter. But that, too, remains to go through its pace.

I guess I'll I'm trying to say is that there's just not been enough time since Bioshock's release to know. Same will go for Mass Effect.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]...You've NEVER played a Bioware game, have you?Nathan_Drake

KOTOR, and no, it's not for everyone. I enjoyed it, but not like what I get out of a JRPG.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]...You've NEVER played a Bioware game, have you?Nathan_Drake

KOTOR, and no, it's not for everyone. I enjoyed it, but not like what I get out of a JRPG.

This explains oh so much...

You have to give this to Bioshock and ME if what you say is true. At least it wasn't bad. And you'd know it because it would be discussed all of the time. So, we know Bioshock is good and ME will be too.

But you may have a point at that staying-power thing. If there were no Bioshock 2, it would be due to the lack of need/want. That alone would say a ton. But that's all yet to be played out. I guess you could also compare first year sales for titles and that might be a good meter. But that, too, remains to go through its pace.

I guess I'll I'm trying to say is that there's just not been enough time since Bioshock's release to know. Same will go for Mass Effect.

The_Crucible

[QUOTE="Nathan_Drake"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]...You've NEVER played a Bioware game, have you?blue_hazy_basic

KOTOR, and no, it's not for everyone. I enjoyed it, but not like what I get out of a JRPG.

Would it have been better if I played Jade Empire? :?

ME wont sell

just like kotor and jade empire.

a xbox is like the rpg graveyard

niall077

Xbox gamers like this ^^^

they hate this ^^^

WRPGS do well on 360.

This explains oh so much...Verge_6

lol that explains everythingblue_hazy_basic

hahaha great minds eh?

You have to give this to Bioshock and ME if what you say is true. At least it wasn't bad. And you'd know it because it would be discussed all of the time. So, we know Bioshock is good and ME will be too.

But you may have a point at that staying-power thing. If there were no Bioshock 2, it would be due to the lack of need/want. That alone would say a ton. But that's all yet to be played out. I guess you could also compare first year sales for titles and that might be a good meter. But that, too, remains to go through its pace.

I guess I'll I'm trying to say is that there's just not been enough time since Bioshock's release to know. Same will go for Mass Effect.

The_Crucible

they're already wanting to do a sequel to bioshock

[QUOTE="Nathan_Drake"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]...You've NEVER played a Bioware game, have you?Verge_6

KOTOR, and no, it's not for everyone. I enjoyed it, but not like what I get out of a JRPG.

This explains oh so much...

Oh, I see what you're getting at. Would it help to say I'm a huge Oblivion fan hmmm?