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#1 chriseph13
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i dont think it will but there is some ppl that do what do yall think

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#2 AAllxxjjnn
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Real question: Will it surpass MGS3? No probably not.
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#3 Eddie-Vedder
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I hope MGR has the Kojima polish :[ I don't care if it's multiplat or not, I just want another MG experience, I really didn't like hearing Kojima say he's heavily invested in the PSP MG and not in MGR. Console MG > Handheld MG!

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#4 EVOLV3
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No, it wont get higher than a 10.

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#5 II_Seraphim_II
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No chance in hell. IMO of course :P
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#6 Fizzman
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I could care less if its better then MGSIV aslong as its better then MGS3 since that was by far the best MGS ive ever played imo.

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#7 therealnerdd
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Well, according to lemmings, it will surpassed MGS4 in so many ways - better graphics, animation, lighting, physics, gameplay, multiplayer, music, characters, story, staff members, engine, better combos, better hair color, better eye color, better lips, better weapons, better pistol, better ak's, better voice. It will just surpassed mgs4 in so many ways. It'll be like heaven and earth. MGS4 is earth and MGRising is heaven.

But to us true gamers, it will be equal to MGS4, if not better.

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#8 Steel-Panther
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Who knows, but it's multiplat and cows will say MGS4 is superior because it's exclusive.

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#9 CreepyBacon
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Well there putting it on the superior console. But it's a multiplat, which means the PS3 is still going to hold it back. So no, if it was exclusive to the X360? Devs would need to create a new ranking score, one that goes above 10. Or just re-review MGS4 cause it didn't deserve the praise it got anyway and that's coming from someone who completed it.

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#10 blank33
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Not a chance.

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#11 Kashiwaba
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Well I hope it will be as good as MGS4 or even better but the rumors iam hearing about this game making me think we shouldnt expect much from this game but who knows it might be true and it turns out to be a great game and the young people at Koji,a team might be more innovative than the old ones.

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#12 BioShockOwnz
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For me, yes. I thought MGS4 was boring. Vastly inferior to MGS3.

I'm ready for something new with the super badass Raiden. Lightning bolt action!

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#13 Im_single
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I could care less if its better then MGSIV aslong as its better then MGS3 since that was by far the best MGS ive ever played imo.

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Real question: Will it surpass MGS3? No probably not.AAllxxjjnn
Both tied on metacritic for score, and both achieved massive critical acclaim from fans, IMO they are on even ground. MGS3 has the better story, MGS4 has better gameplay/gadgets. I doubt MGR will surpass any of the good MGS games (All except for 2) Almost anything is better than 2....
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Real question: Will it surpass MGS3? No probably not.AAllxxjjnn
Damn you. I came in here to post the exact same thing.
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#15 Fizzman
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

I could care less if its better then MGSIV aslong as its better then MGS3 since that was by far the best MGS ive ever played imo.

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Real question: Will it surpass MGS3? No probably not.AAllxxjjnn
Both tied on metacritic for score, and both achieved massive critical acclaim from fans, IMO they are on even ground. MGS3 has the better story, MGS4 has better gameplay/gadgets. I doubt MGR will surpass any of the good MGS games (All except for 2) Almost anything is better than 2....

true, but if im gonna play a Single player based game id sure like the better story.

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#16 xscott1018
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i'm kind of thinking that we will get screwed somehow. u know kojima being with sony for a while with metal gear 4 and how kojima looks when the spokes people of microsoft touch him.
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#17 ChiSoxBombers
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no but it will surely sell more

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#18 Kashiwaba
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People got different tastes for me MGS1 > MGS4 > MGS2 > MGS3
I didnt like MGS3 gameplay at all it was boring and the story wasnt that good.

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#19 OldSkoolGamer04
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People got different tastes for me MGS1 > MGS4 > MGS2 > MGS3
I didnt like MGS3 gameplay at all it was boring and the story wasnt that good.

Kashiwaba

It has better gameplay and a more taught story than anything else with the Metal Gear name.

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#20 TheGreatOutdoor
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will metal gear rising surpass mgs4

chriseph13

Nobody knows because they game isn't out yet. :shock:

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#21 GreenGoblin2099
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In a sense, every MGS has surpasses its predecessor... so I'm hoping Rising achieves to dothe same.

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#22 Im_single
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[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

People got different tastes for me MGS1 > MGS4 > MGS2 > MGS3
I didnt like MGS3 gameplay at all it was boring and the story wasnt that good.

OldSkoolGamer04

It has better gameplay and a more taught story than anything else with the Metal Gear name.

MGS4 has vastly superior gameplay to any other MGS game on the market, you could argue that MGS3 does everything better than MGS4 and you'd have a basis for an argument but gameplay? MGS4 improved so much in terms of gameplay from 3>4 it plays on a whole different level.

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#23 Kashiwaba
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[QUOTE="OldSkoolGamer04"]

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

People got different tastes for me MGS1 > MGS4 > MGS2 > MGS3
I didnt like MGS3 gameplay at all it was boring and the story wasnt that good.

Im_single

It has better gameplay and a more taught story than anything else with the Metal Gear name.

MGS4 has vastly superior gameplay to any other MGS game on the market, you could argue that MGS3 does everything better than MGS4 and you'd have a basis for an argument but gameplay? MGS4 improved so much in terms of gameplay from 3>4 it plays on a whole different level.

Like I said before people got different taste dont persuade others to love what you love.

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#24 fadersdream
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i'm going to feel like such a sucker when i get it and it's even more crying and sobbing and boo hooing. i just don't know when the series got so melodramatic.

so to be honest i don't think it will be hard to be better than 4, it will however have a hard time beating the hype that has built up around 4.

and what made 3 so good is it was a story about a tough soldier, not a whiny old man.

4 ends with him talking to his dad/brother, 3 ends with him tapping the hot blonde that teased you the entire game.

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#25 Bread_or_Decide
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Not a chance.
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#26 Rob-Belmont
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Not a chance.
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#27 fadersdream
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the gameplay was too awkward in 4, if you stopped playing the game for over a day you would have to relearn all the goofy things again... and when your going for the perfect stealth playthrough accidently de-cloaking with the mk android was a pain in the but.

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#28 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="fadersdream"]

i'm going to feel like such a sucker when i get it and it's even more crying and sobbing and boo hooing. i just don't know when the series got so melodramatic.

so to be honest i don't think it will be hard to be better than 4, it will however have a hard time beating the hype that has built up around 4.

and what made 3 so good is it was a story about a tough soldier, not a whiny old man.

4 ends with him talking to his dad/brother, 3 ends with him tapping the hot blonde that teased you the entire game.

When the series got so melodramatic? Ummm...since the original game on the MSX?
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#29 jwsoul
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Real question: Will it surpass MGS3? No probably not.AAllxxjjnn
lol I see your a fan of that 1 as well huh. MGS3 rocks to be fair. As for this random spin off surprassing MGS4 who knows, maybe it will maybe it wont all i know is i doubt i will buy it either way.
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="fadersdream"]

i'm going to feel like such a sucker when i get it and it's even more crying and sobbing and boo hooing. i just don't know when the series got so melodramatic.

so to be honest i don't think it will be hard to be better than 4, it will however have a hard time beating the hype that has built up around 4.

and what made 3 so good is it was a story about a tough soldier, not a whiny old man.

4 ends with him talking to his dad/brother, 3 ends with him tapping the hot blonde that teased you the entire game.

When the series got so melodramatic? Ummm...since the original game on the MSX?

what is a msx? i played the first one on the nes when it came out, and all the rest of them, it wasn't until the mgs2 that the sensitive man entered, and it 4 t got out of hand. there were a lot of parodies about the game with snake and otacon as lovers. for a reason. if you don't know the back story the scene with merril looks like hal is cheating on snake.
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what is a msx? i played the first one on the nes when it came out, and all the rest of them, it wasn't until the mgs2 that the sensitive man entered, and it 4 t got out of hand. there were a lot of parodies about the game with snake and otacon as lovers. for a reason. if you don't know the back story the scene with merril looks like hal is cheating on snake.fadersdream

This is MSX

MSX

The original MG came out for this and it's NOT like the NES version... Kojima had nothing to do witheither of the NES versions.

You can find the original MG and MG2 on the Subsistance version of MGS3.

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#32 KratosTwin
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The fact that Kojima himself said he will not be heavily involved leads me to believe it will not be better than MGSIV. Does not mean it wont be a good game though.

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#33 exiledsnake
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This is like comparing apples and oranges. Kojima already said this game wont be like the others in the series which means there might not be stealth judging from the 'Lightning Bolt Action' title. And reports of a whole new engine being made for this game also supports this.
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#34 Hihatrider87
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"lightning bolt action"

its not going to be a stealth game. their will be some people on this board that won't accept that.

i just hope the gameplay isn't simplistic. something along the lines of ninja gaiden with kojima's touch is good with me.

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#35 therealnerdd
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"lightning bolt action"

its not going to be a stealth game. their will be some people on this board that won't accept that.

i just hope the gameplay isn't simplistic. something along the lines of ninja gaiden with kojima's touch is good with me.

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I hope it isn't anything like Ninja gaiden, it will only encourage lemmings to go around calling it a ninja gaiden rip-off.
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#36 smithster118
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No. Quite simply no.

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#37 Shad0ki11
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Hopefully Metal Gear Rising turns out well.

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#38 AnnoyedDragon
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Exclusives are always hyped higher than their cross platform equivalents, Cows in particular will likely be bashing the game.

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#39 Hihatrider87
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[QUOTE="Hihatrider87"]

"lightning bolt action"

its not going to be a stealth game. their will be some people on this board that won't accept that.

i just hope the gameplay isn't simplistic. something along the lines of ninja gaiden with kojima's touch is good with me.

therealnerdd

I hope it isn't anything like Ninja gaiden, it will only encourage lemmings to go around calling it a ninja gaiden rip-off.

if their lemmings then why would they bash this game? isn't this supposed to be a minor victory for them?

i've only noticed cows downplay it.

i just want a fun game and i liked the ninja gaidens so it would be cool with me. obviously not from a story standpoint. i'd like it to keep the same style as the other metal gear games in that respect.

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#40 therealnerdd
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[QUOTE="therealnerdd"][QUOTE="Hihatrider87"]

"lightning bolt action"

its not going to be a stealth game. their will be some people on this board that won't accept that.

i just hope the gameplay isn't simplistic. something along the lines of ninja gaiden with kojima's touch is good with me.

Hihatrider87

I hope it isn't anything like Ninja gaiden, it will only encourage lemmings to go around calling it a ninja gaiden rip-off.

if their lemmings then why would they bash this game? isn't this supposed to be a minor victory for them?

i've only noticed cows downplay it.

i just want a fun game and i liked the ninja gaidens so it would be cool with me. obviously not from a story standpoint. i'd like it to keep the same style as the other metal gear games in that respect.

I'm not saying they will bash it, i'm saying fanboys will go around calling it a ninja gaiden ripoff, like they did with qautum theory(whatever it's called).
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#41 cainetao11
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[QUOTE="therealnerdd"]

Well, according to lemmings, it will surpassed MGS4 in so many ways - better graphics, animation, lighting, physics, gameplay, multiplayer, music, characters, story, staff members, engine, better combos, better hair color, better eye color, better lips, better weapons, better pistol, better ak's, better voice. It will just surpassed mgs4 in so many ways. It'll be like heaven and earth. MGS4 is earth and MGRising is heaven.

But to us true gamers, it will be equal to MGS4, if not better.

So cows are the "true gamers" now? Stop. The game seems to be entering the NG, DMC arena. Uncharted waters for MGS so let's see.
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#42 cainetao11
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[QUOTE="therealnerdd"]

Well, according to lemmings, it will surpassed MGS4 in so many ways - better graphics, animation, lighting, physics, gameplay, multiplayer, music, characters, story, staff members, engine, better combos, better hair color, better eye color, better lips, better weapons, better pistol, better ak's, better voice. It will just surpassed mgs4 in so many ways. It'll be like heaven and earth. MGS4 is earth and MGRising is heaven.

But to us true gamers, it will be equal to MGS4, if not better.

So cows are the "true gamers" now? Stop. The game seems to be entering the NG, DMC arena. Uncharted waters for MGS so let's see.
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#43 therealnerdd
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[QUOTE="cainetao11"][QUOTE="therealnerdd"]

Well, according to lemmings, it will surpassed MGS4 in so many ways - better graphics, animation, lighting, physics, gameplay, multiplayer, music, characters, story, staff members, engine, better combos, better hair color, better eye color, better lips, better weapons, better pistol, better ak's, better voice. It will just surpassed mgs4 in so many ways. It'll be like heaven and earth. MGS4 is earth and MGRising is heaven.

But to us true gamers, it will be equal to MGS4, if not better.

So cows are the "true gamers" now? Stop. The game seems to be entering the NG, DMC arena. Uncharted waters for MGS so let's see.

I didn't say cows were true gamers. :| /facepalm
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#44 AAllxxjjnn
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"lightning bolt action"

its not going to be a stealth game. their will be some people on this board that won't accept that.

i just hope the gameplay isn't simplistic. something along the lines of ninja gaiden with kojima's touch is good with me.

Hihatrider87
They said it was a stealth-action game, just like MGS3/4. http://e3.gamespot.com/story/6210520/new-castlevania-ps3-pc-mgs-rising-revealed-at-konami-event "[3:36] It's primarily a stealth-action game, with Raiden as the main character."
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In terms of sales, yes. Rising will conquer.

In terms of overall better game than mgs4, doubtful.

Why? Kojima not putting all his effort into one game but into many at the same time.

Will the game be awesome? HELL YEAH!

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#46 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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It won't even surpass Snake's Revenge.
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i dont see why anyone is hyped for this (other than fanboys since its on 360) will kojima even have anything to do with this game? i way more hyped for the psp one coming out since it is an ACTUAL mgs game that goes with the main story. while the other one is just a side story of THE WORST (imo) mgs character in the game. im sure ill get both but i just dont get the hype on the one
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In terms of sales, yes. Rising will conquer.

In terms of overall better game than mgs4, doubtful.

Why? Kojima not putting all his effort into one game but into many at the same time.

Will the game be awesome? HELL YEAH!

g0ddyX

Kojima himself is not working on this game. :?

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#49 g0ddyX
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[QUOTE="g0ddyX"]

In terms of sales, yes. Rising will conquer.

In terms of overall better game than mgs4, doubtful.

Why? Kojima not putting all his effort into one game but into many at the same time.

Will the game be awesome? HELL YEAH!

siLVURcross

Kojima himself is not working on this game. :?



Hes doing something for the game as far as I know, not just giving advice.

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#50 Kashiwaba
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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]

[QUOTE="g0ddyX"]

In terms of sales, yes. Rising will conquer.

In terms of overall better game than mgs4, doubtful.

Why? Kojima not putting all his effort into one game but into many at the same time.

Will the game be awesome? HELL YEAH!

g0ddyX

Kojima himself is not working on this game. :?



Hes doing something for the game as far as I know, not just giving advice.

he will work on it but he wont be deeply involved in it like MGS4 and MGS peace walker.