Will MGS4 still be the most overrated garbage ever if they port it to 360?

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#1 jjenkins78x
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This game is bashed to hell and back for being convoluted, "generic", more movie than game, milking the fans, overrated, etc. I am sure you can (and will) come up with more adjectives.

I wonder if the game will see a remarkable boost in quality if they announce a 360 port?

Basically, consider this an official MGS4-bashing thread, vent about how overrated the game is so we can have some epic lulz when MS announces a port as their MEGATON this year at GDC or E3.

I'll start. Worst story ever. It's way too complex and convoluted for anyone to have any emotional attachment to any of the characters whatsoever.

Btw, this is not intended to start a flame war, this is purely an investment in eventual epic lulz for the greater good of System Wars. Do it for SW!

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#2 DealRogers
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None of your poll answers suits me. Cartman FTW.

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It really doesnt need a port to the 360. I dont want time wasted on a port. I'd much rather get a new metal gear installment, even if it is multiplatform.
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#4 swazidoughman
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It's overrated, but it's not the most overrated thing and it's far from garbage.

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Butters is the worst character ever. Worse than Towelie.
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#7 moose_knuckler
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lol your poll question says "How awful is MGSIV?" and the first answer is Yes.
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#9 AAllxxjjnn
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Umm yeh, It'll still have its average TPS and stealth gameplay coupled with the convoluted storyline told through excruciatingly long cutscenes. And yeh i've played it.
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#10 lundy86_4
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MGS4 is one of my favourite games this gen, an epic ending to the story of Solid Snake. Receiving almost 93% on GamRankings. Man that game is good

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#11 quizee
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this is such a pointless thread. MGS 4 isn't even overrated. it was one of my fav games last year

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#12 Chutebox
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Every single game on every single platform that scores and sells well is bashed to no end on this forum. MGS4, Halo 3, KZ2, Gears 2, SMG, etc etc. It's all the same tiresome act.

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They should leave MGS4 and port over Metal Gear Online but work on it first as it was shockingly bad the first few times, I played it on my friends PS3 but then started to get good later on when they dealt with the lag.
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Umm yeh, It'll still have its average TPS and stealth gameplay coupled with the convoluted storyline told through excruciatingly long cutscenes. And yeh i've played it.]AAllxxjjnn
Yup. Though if it comes on 360, Cows still start saying "buh buh we never lyked it!1!1!1:cry:"

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#15 rockguy92
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Really, point of thread?
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#16 jjenkins78x
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It's overrated, but it's not the most overrated thing and it's far from garbage.

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I know. I love MGS4. It is my favorite game this gen, the only one that sort of pulled on any nostalgic heart-strings and didn't feel like a cash-in on the franchise's name like DMC4. Kojima put his heart and soul into that game, and it shows. I am actually one of the ones who helps to "overrate" it by heaping all the praise I can heap upon it. I know the game is fantastic, and if it was ported lemmings would know it's joys as well, though I think too much time has passed for it to be a huge deal. MGS5 (sans Kojima! :shock: ) is expected to be a new direction for the franchise, possibly an action game based on Raiden or a squad-based tactical shooter based on Meryl's team. I bet it will be multiplat.
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I only got to play the first two acts becaus I had to borrow a friends ps3 as I refuse to buy one, but from what ive played I dont like it as much as I like mgs2.

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#18 PAL360
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I think its a good game. On the other hand, if it goes multiplat im sure it will sudenly stop being called the best game ever.

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#20 Trinners
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But it won't come to the 360...

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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Umm yeh, It'll still have its average TPS and stealth gameplay coupled with the convoluted storyline told through excruciatingly long cutscenes. And yeh i've played it.]Aljosa23

Yup. Though if it comes on 360, Cows still start saying "buh buh we never lyked it!1!1!1:cry:"

No they won't... Too much evidence proving them wrong lol.

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[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

It's overrated, but it's not the most overrated thing and it's far from garbage.

jjenkins78x

I know. I love MGS4. It is my favorite game this gen, the only one that sort of pulled on any nostalgic heart-strings and didn't feel like a cash-in on the franchise's name like DMC4. Kojima put his heart and soul into that game, and it shows. I am actually one of the ones who helps to "overrate" it by heaping all the praise I can heap upon it. I know the game is fantastic, and if it was ported lemmings would know it's joys as well, though I think too much time has passed for it to be a huge deal. MGS5 (sans Kojima! :shock: ) is expected to be a new direction for the franchise, possibly an action game based on Raiden or a squad-based tactical shooter based on Meryl's team. I bet it will be multiplat.

Wait you bash it in your opening thread and now your saying it's good?

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I never liked the game and I own the MGS4 80GB PS3 Bundle.

I wouldn't call it "garbage", though. Just not my bag.

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#24 jjenkins78x
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this is such a pointless thread. MGS 4 isn't even overrated. it was one of my fav games last year

quizee

Same here.

Really, point of thread?rockguy92

Seriously? You couldn't like, read the thread? It's only like 40 words long and it states right there in black and white that this is intended as an investment, whose dividends will be epic lulz if MGS4 ends up on 360 and suddenly sucks a lot less.

This thread sucksUndertakerVsHBK

Not anymore it doesn't, now that you've done your part. If only everyone would contribute!

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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Umm yeh, It'll still have its average TPS and stealth gameplay coupled with the convoluted storyline told through excruciatingly long cutscenes. And yeh i've played it.]Chutebox

Yup. Though if it comes on 360, Cows still start saying "buh buh we never lyked it!1!1!1:cry:"

No they won't... Too much evidence proving them wrong lol.

Oh but they will. Cows will start damage controling and Lemmings will deny how they bashed MGS4. While Shermits like myself will sit on the sidelines and laugh.

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[QUOTE="jjenkins78x"][QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

It's overrated, but it's not the most overrated thing and it's far from garbage.

lundy86_4

I know. I love MGS4. It is my favorite game this gen, the only one that sort of pulled on any nostalgic heart-strings and didn't feel like a cash-in on the franchise's name like DMC4. Kojima put his heart and soul into that game, and it shows. I am actually one of the ones who helps to "overrate" it by heaping all the praise I can heap upon it. I know the game is fantastic, and if it was ported lemmings would know it's joys as well, though I think too much time has passed for it to be a huge deal. MGS5 (sans Kojima! :shock: ) is expected to be a new direction for the franchise, possibly an action game based on Raiden or a squad-based tactical shooter based on Meryl's team. I bet it will be multiplat.

Wait you bash it in your opening thread and now your saying it's good?

Joke thread...duh!

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But it won't come to the 360...

Trinners
But still the amount of time it takes to swap those disks or write them to the harddrive will be quicker than the 10+ min mandatory install the PS3 forces you to have with nearly every game.
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#28 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="jjenkins78x"] I know. I love MGS4. It is my favorite game this gen, the only one that sort of pulled on any nostalgic heart-strings and didn't feel like a cash-in on the franchise's name like DMC4. Kojima put his heart and soul into that game, and it shows. I am actually one of the ones who helps to "overrate" it by heaping all the praise I can heap upon it. I know the game is fantastic, and if it was ported lemmings would know it's joys as well, though I think too much time has passed for it to be a huge deal. MGS5 (sans Kojima! :shock: ) is expected to be a new direction for the franchise, possibly an action game based on Raiden or a squad-based tactical shooter based on Meryl's team. I bet it will be multiplat. deuce85

Wait you bash it in your opening thread and now your saying it's good?

Joke thread...duh!

I guess. Just one of those pointless things I see.

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26 hours of cut-scenes and barely an hour and a half of gameplay. Overrated garbage indeed.
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[QUOTE="Trinners"]

But it won't come to the 360...

HGAT

But still the amount of time it takes to swap those disks or write them to the harddrive will be quicker than the 10+ min mandatory install the PS3 forces you to have with nearly every game.

As a PC gamer, installs are fine. Taking care of 5 discs is epic fail. You damage or lose 1 disc it's all over. Swapping discs is obsolete.

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The extremely long cutscenes will be hailed as one of the best story telling methods ever, if it goes to 360.
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Butters is the worst character ever. Worse than Towelie.Cherokee_Jack
I disagree, Butters is funny but not the best, Towelie is more annoying and had a horrible episode for himself.
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[QUOTE="Trinners"]

But it won't come to the 360...

How much memory does MGSIV take up? Cause that pic just looks like it's used to make cows feel good or something.
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#34 nervmeister
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The in-game Sony and Apple easter eggs (even in the cutscenes) will be a nightmare for MS to get around. So I'm not getting my hopes up for a port.

EDIT: The whole issue of multiple discs however isn't really that big of a deal BTW.

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26 hours of cut-scenes and barely an hour and a half of gameplay. Overrated garbage indeed.Floppy_Jim
Now this man understands SW and the fact that the desire for epic lulz overrules all other moral and philosophical obligations. This man is a shining example of what is right in the world.
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Metal gear solid is the best series of all time in my opinion I would be very pleased with Konami and Microsoft if they announced a port to the 360
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It'll be a 4 disc inferior game on the 360. You'll have to change discs between acts at least.

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It'll be a 4 disc inferior game on the 360. You'll have to change discs between acts at least.

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the game would fit on 1 dvd
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But it won't come to the 360...

Trinners

Doesn't MGS4 use 50 GB, and DVDs use up to 8.5 GB at least, and there's more than 10 discs there, LOL.

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The extremely long cutscenes will be hailed as one of the best story telling methods ever, if it goes to 360.bdum_pshhh
Indeed. Lemmings are the most hypocritical fanboys.

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[QUOTE="lolfaqs"]

It'll be a 4 disc inferior game on the 360. You'll have to change discs between acts at least.

SAGE_OF_FIRE
the game would fit on 1 dvd

Using compressions?
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If the 360 could handle R5, it can makes it with MGS4
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[QUOTE="Trinners"]

But it won't come to the 360...

mitu123

Doesn't MGS4 use 50 GB, and DVDs use up to 8.5 GB at least, and there's more than 10 discs there, LOL.

MGS4 is filled with uncompressed audio, if it was compressed it could easily fit on two discs.

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[QUOTE="lolfaqs"]

It'll be a 4 disc inferior game on the 360. You'll have to change discs between acts at least.

SAGE_OF_FIRE

the game would fit on 1 dvd

To be safe, I would say maybe 2. Whilst a lot of MGS4 is uncompressed sound, we do not know exactly, unless Kojima Productions comes out and says "5gb was taken up by textures, 3gb by blah blah blah". Compression techniques are good, and could possibly get it onto one disc. However we don't know specifics enough.

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[QUOTE="bdum_pshhh"]The extremely long cutscenes will be hailed as one of the best story telling methods ever, if it goes to 360.Aljosa23

Indeed. Lemmings are the most hypocritical fanboys.

Remember E3 08, didn't cows have a fit about FFXIII coming to the 360?
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Trinners"]

But it won't come to the 360...

Aljosa23

Doesn't MGS4 use 50 GB, and DVDs use up to 8.5 GB at least, and there's more than 10 discs there, LOL.

MGS4 is filled with uncompressed audio, if it was compressed it could easily fit on two discs.

Exactly, compression is the best way to handle this sadly.

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[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"][QUOTE="lolfaqs"]

It'll be a 4 disc inferior game on the 360. You'll have to change discs between acts at least.

mitu123
the game would fit on 1 dvd

Using compressions?

Yes the audio is uncompressed
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[QUOTE="Trinners"]

But it won't come to the 360...

mitu123

Doesn't MGS4 use 50 GB, and DVDs use up to 8.5 GB at least, and there's more than 10 discs there, LOL.

DVD-9 is maxed out at 8.54gb.

XD

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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="bdum_pshhh"]The extremely long cutscenes will be hailed as one of the best story telling methods ever, if it goes to 360.mitu123

Indeed. Lemmings are the most hypocritical fanboys.

Remember E3 08, didn't cows have a fit about FFXIII coming to the 360?

Exactly. All sides are corrupted pretty much the same way.
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]Butters is the worst character ever. Worse than Towelie.mitu123
I disagree, Butters is funny but not the best, Towelie is more annoying and had a horrible episode for himself.

I guess you guys didn't know a Butters growing up. Or you WERE a Butters growing up! :lol: The way he's always whining about getting grounded, how when he pees he pulls his pants down to the floor and pulls his shirt up (HAHAHAHAHA), how he continues to hang out with guys who make him eat **** all the time, how naive and optimistic he is despite all the crap he has seen go down... Butters is an absolute classic and him being the best character on the show is almost the only genuine thing I have said in this thread. Refer to the episode where he goes on Maury with balls on his chin to see what I mean. The first time I saw that I almost blacked out from laughing.

A close second to Butters, for me, is Randy Marsh. Cartman is too easy. He is everyone's favorite. And with good reason (Scott Tenorman Must Die).

Towelie is widely considered one of their worst characters ever, but I think that was the point. They even say that to him at the end of the Okama Gamesphere episode. "Wanna go get high?" is a pretty popular catchphrase, despite him being their supposed worst. I think Pip is worse. They totally discarded him when they realized Butters was a way better person for Cartman to antagonize. Tweak also fell by the wayside, though Craig seems to be finding his niche.