Will Microsoft and Sony survive this generation?

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#1 SquatsAreAwesom
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Do you think these companies will be able to financially make it through this generation?

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#2 SpinoRaptor24
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What makes you think they won't?
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#3 ActicEdge
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Why wouldn't they again?

Edit: Damn, Spino beat me to it.

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#4 StealthMonkey4
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They're both definitely going to make it.

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#5 Legendaryscmt
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This is Microsoft and Sony we're talking about. Microsoft's milkage already nets them enough money to survive, and Sony can last for god knows how long because of the money they make off of the PS2 juggernaut.

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#6 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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What makes you think they won't?SpinoRaptor24

Why wouldn't they again?

Edit: Damn, Spino beat me to it.

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Since no one has asked it: why wouldn't they?

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#7 djsifer01
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Joke thread? Both companys are going to be making consoles for a very long time i think.
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#8 ENDOT12123
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why wouldnt they

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#9 GodofBigMacs
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Definitely they will. They both have many other successful branches, even if their games branch suddenly fails.
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#10 blank33
Member since 2005 • 1896 Posts

Who voted that they wouldn't make it?

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#11 topgunmv
Member since 2003 • 10880 Posts

Unless everyone at both companies catches an alpha strain of swine flu, yes.

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#12 LiftedHeadshot
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Microsoft could lose money for a decade and still exit strong. They just set aside an entire billion just to fix e-74.
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#13 zaku101
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The funny thing is if MS or sony got completely killed off in the gaming department. They would still be making 10X more than Nintendo. If Nintendo however did bad they wouldn't exist anymore because other than gaming I believe they only sell cards.

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#14 LiftedHeadshot
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The funny thing is if MS or sony got completely killed off in the gaming department. They would still be making 10X more than Nintendo. If Nintendo however did bad they wouldn't exist anymore because other than gaming I believe they only sell cards.

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LOL HAX!
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#15 ragek1ll589
Member since 2007 • 8650 Posts

Is there anything indicating that neither of them will survive?

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#16 treedoor
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No.

Last I heard MS had to sell off Windows just to pay for RROD, so the company as a whole will be gone soon, and Sony, well......Samsung.

Neither company is going to make it out alive.

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#17 kate_jones
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Microsoft has more money than god thanks to windows there not going broke anytime soon, neither is Sony for that matter. They make far too much money in other areas

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#18 AmayaPapaya
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Too bad, all Microsoft and Sony do, is make games/consoles. They won't last long because they have nothing to fall back on.

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#19 Silverbond
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Of course they will.

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#20 hucku
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Too bad, all Microsoft and Sony do, is make games/consoles. They won't last long because they have nothing to fall back on.

AmayaPapaya

Please tell me you were totally kidding on that last part.

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#21 hukibeast
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You don't have to be highest in sales to be profitable. And as long your profitable by a good margin, you're going to continue producing products.

The end.

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#22 Cherokee_Jack
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Um, yes. MS is doing fine, at least.
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#23 IlovemyAbs
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:|

I can't believe theres a thread about this

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#24 BlackSubmarine
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Better question is how crappy will next gen be? I can just imagine it being fully motion sensing consoles with ps2 graphics!
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#25 Cherokee_Jack
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Better question is how crappy will next gen be? I can just imagine it being fully motion sensing consoles with ps2 graphics!BlackSubmarine

Yes, because the people who don't want consoles like the Wii don't exist anymore, so companies can no longer make ****loads of money off that market.

Oh, wait.

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#26 BlackSubmarine
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[QUOTE="BlackSubmarine"]Better question is how crappy will next gen be? I can just imagine it being fully motion sensing consoles with ps2 graphics!Cherokee_Jack

Yes, because the people who don't want consoles like the Wii don't exist anymore, so companies can no longer make ****loads of money off that market.

Oh, wait.

Wait, what?
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#27 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

[QUOTE="BlackSubmarine"]Better question is how crappy will next gen be? I can just imagine it being fully motion sensing consoles with ps2 graphics!BlackSubmarine

Yes, because the people who don't want consoles like the Wii don't exist anymore, so companies can no longer make ****loads of money off that market.

Oh, wait.

Wait, what?

Let me spell it out for you: MS and Sony would have to be insane to make their next consoles Wii clones, because the "hardcore" market never went away; it's still there and it's still profitable, and it won't be happy with low-quality graphics and motion controls. If either company tried to compete directly with the Wii/Wii 2 for the casuals, the other would be more than happy to take over their share of the "hardcore" market.
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#28 MortalDecay
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Anyone that voted for one, or the other not making is a blatant fanboy. Of course they'll both make it.
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#29 treedoor
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Better question is how crappy will next gen be? I can just imagine it being fully motion sensing consoles with ps2 graphics!BlackSubmarine

That would be pretty awesome.

Low dev cost = more insanely awesome, original games because there's less risk.

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#30 themyth01
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MS is pretty much set, they've made a profit on their entertainment division for 2 years straight and their overall profits are insane. Sony has posted an overall loss for 2 consecutive periods now but I think they'll make it too.
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#31 darkkillerr
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Who voted that they wouldn't make it?

blank33

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#32 Trmpt
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[QUOTE="BlackSubmarine"]Better question is how crappy will next gen be? I can just imagine it being fully motion sensing consoles with ps2 graphics!Cherokee_Jack

Yes, because the people who don't want consoles like the Wii don't exist anymore, so companies can no longer make ****loads of money off that market.

Oh, wait.

You're saying people that DO want a console similar to the Wii still exist right?

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#33 NinjaDuckling
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They will both make it. However, they will trail far behind the Wii.
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#34 punkrocker163
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Too bad, all Microsoft and Sony do, is make games/consoles. They won't last long because they have nothing to fall back on.

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O....M.....G. Are you really serious with this post? Someone rip him a new ........
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#35 Pale-Folklore
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[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

Too bad, all Microsoft and Sony do, is make games/consoles. They won't last long because they have nothing to fall back on.

punkrocker163

O....M.....G. Are you really serious with this post? Someone rip him a new ........

He is obviously joking.

Chill.

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#36 reveiwer
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[QUOTE="BlackSubmarine"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

Yes, because the people who don't want consoles like the Wii don't exist anymore, so companies can no longer make ****loads of money off that market.

Oh, wait.

Cherokee_Jack

Wait, what?

Let me spell it out for you: MS and Sony would have to be insane to make their next consoles Wii clones, because the "hardcore" market never went away; it's still there and it's still profitable, and it won't be happy with low-quality graphics and motion controls. If either company tried to compete directly with the Wii/Wii 2 for the casuals, the other would be more than happy to take over their share of the "hardcore" market.

Now I'll tell you three reasons why both MS and Sony would want to quit the hardcore.

1. There are more casuals than hardcore

2.Lower dev costs, devs are all complaining about high dev costs and because of this Sony and MS will probably listento them.

3.No point in upgrades, Face it these days a graphical improvement is hardly noticeable.

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#37 ASRCSR
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They will both make it, did you realize that Sony and Microsoft does more than just gaming, also if you want to worry about someone, worry about Nintendo who is one dimensinal when it comes to a business as a whole

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#38 punkrocker163
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[QUOTE="punkrocker163"][QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

Too bad, all Microsoft and Sony do, is make games/consoles. They won't last long because they have nothing to fall back on.

Pale-Folklore

O....M.....G. Are you really serious with this post? Someone rip him a new ........

He is obviously joking.

Chill.

Sorry, my sarcasm detector is broken tonight.
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#39 jasonharris48
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Why wouldn't they?

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#40 gamedude234
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yeah, they'll both make it. will they have enough money to makedecent consoles next gen? maybe not.

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#41 reveiwer
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yeah, they'll both make it. will they have enough money to makedecent consoles next gen? maybe not.

gamedude234

So you're saying if a console doe'nt make enough graphical improvements it is'nt decent?

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#42 gamedude234
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[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

yeah, they'll both make it. will they have enough money to makedecent consoles next gen? maybe not.

reveiwer

So you're saying if a console doe'nt make enough graphical improvements it is'nt decent?

No,not at all, i think gameply is much more important than graphics, but,sure all 3 will make graphical improvments. what i was saying is that sony/MS hasn't made as much profit this gen, so the next gen could be nintendo's again because of all the profit they have made this gen, they can make a fantastic console(probably, remember this is all a hypothosis).

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#43 reveiwer
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[QUOTE="reveiwer"]

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

yeah, they'll both make it. will they have enough money to makedecent consoles next gen? maybe not.

gamedude234

So you're saying if a console doe'nt make enough graphical improvements it is'nt decent?

No,not at all, i think gameply is much more important than graphics, but,sure all 3 will make graphical improvments. what i was saying is that sony/MS hasn't made as much profit this gen, so the next gen could be nintendo's again because of all the profit they have made this gen, they can make a fantastic console(probably, remember this is all a hypothosis).

well it is a well founded hypothesis and is very possible.

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#44 TMF128
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They might just manage to survive.

They will probably be in the next generation, but I don't expect them to be in the one after that.

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#45 Mckenna1845
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lol of course. i think they will both end up with profits (in the gaming division), but even if they don't they have plenty of money, and will definitely go into next gen.

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#46 dark-warmachine
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[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Why wouldn't they again?

Edit: Damn, Spino beat me to it.

IronBass

Since no one has asked it: why wouldn't they?

Who voted that they wouldn't make it?

blank33
These are all good questions.
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#47 rabakill
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I say they combine their powers, yup, go 50/50 against Nintendo and make a superconsole.
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#48 reiv
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Both will be around for next gen.
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#49 skektek
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MS is pretty much set, they've made a profit on their entertainment division for 2 years straight and their overall profits are insane. Sony has posted an overall loss for 2 consecutive periods now but I think they'll make it too. themyth01
MS has only had one fiscal year of profitability. To date the Xbox franchise has garnered ~$7billion in debt. The last fiscal quarter MS again posted a loss for the division. It must be increasingly harder for MS to sell the Xbox franchise to it's stockholders.

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#50 kratos-7
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No it's game over after this gen. I'm suprised they've lasted this long.