Will Microsoft ever be able to reach 1st place at all?

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#1 Shinobi120
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Last Gen, Microsoft beat Nintendo for 2nd place, while Sony was being in for 1st place. Now, this gen, it looks like that they'll be in 2nd place again, this time, beating Sony, while Nintendo is currently in for 1st place.

The question is, do you think that Microsoft will wind up being in 1st place for next gen, beating both Nintendo & Sony instead of just one competitor over the other the next time around?

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#2 SpideR_CentS
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If Microsoft gets exclusive console rights for Blizzard games then they win next gen.

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#3 RTUUMM
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Why would you ever want M$ to be #1? Thats the worst thing that could happen to the planet. M$ being #1= Nuclear Holocust.
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#4 aero250
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Hard to say but this gen it's Sony and Microsoft fighting for 2nd place.
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#5 Grady420
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It is possible, I don't see why not.

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#6 Avian005
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Microsoft's Xbox 360 was #1 for a while until the Wii caught. So...it already did. ;)

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#7 beast667
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I thought xbox was last and GC was second last gen.
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#8 CannedWorms
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I thought xbox was last and GC was second last gen.beast667
The Xbox sold around 25 million I believe. and the GameCube was around 22 million.
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#9 beast667
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[QUOTE="beast667"]I thought xbox was last and GC was second last gen.CannedWorms
The Xbox sold around 25 million I believe. and the GameCube was around 22 million.

I'll take your word for it since it doesn't matter that much to me.
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#10 Phazevariance
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Why would you ever want M$ to be #1? Thats the worst thing that could happen to the planet. M$ being #1= Nuclear Holocust.RTUUMM
Why? There's nothign wrogn with Microsoft, they make many good products alogn witht he odd blunder. RROD was not intentional and you 'know' this won't happen next gen as it will be all over their priorities to make sure of that. Zunes work fine, Windows 7 is amazing (vista started off bad but is fine now albeit a bit sluggish), ... why all the hate?
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#12 poptart
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They've got the money and they've got the determination, however this generation has shown it takes a little risk and little creativity to take the 'top spot'. Question marks remain over whether MS they have the foresight and capacity to innovative to lead the market next generation.

Obviously they're currently trying with Natal which is great, but for Sony and MS their motion controls seem tacked on and too little too late to have any affect - from the observer it just looks like a little bit of playing catch up and attempt to capitalize on Nintendo's ground work.

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#13 -Pred-Alien-
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Microsoft cares about making money, not being first place.
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#14 -Pred-Alien-
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[QUOTE="CannedWorms"][QUOTE="beast667"]I thought xbox was last and GC was second last gen.beast667
The Xbox sold around 25 million I believe. and the GameCube was around 22 million.

I'll take your word for it since it doesn't matter that much to me.

Yeah they did, but 5-6 million of those Gamecubes came from Japan hence the terrible third-party support.
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#15 gamer-adam1
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Microsoft has already won

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#16 Menalque2
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Never say never ;)

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#17 CannedWorms
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Microsoft has already won

gamer-adam1

:lol:

DS: 106 million

Wii: 51 million

PSP: 48 million

360: 31 million

PS3: 22 million

:|

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#18 gamer-adam1
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[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

Microsoft has already won

CannedWorms

:lol:

DS: 106 million

Wii: 51 million

PSP: 48 million

360: 31 million

PS3: 22 million

:|

numbers dont mean everything, microsoft has more owners this time around, thats why they won. they've done everything better than before. they arent last place, people are buying their system

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#19 dragonfly110
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[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

Microsoft has already won

CannedWorms

:lol:

DS: 106 million

Wii: 51 million

PSP: 48 million

360: 31 million

PS3: 22 million

:|

PSP has 360 passed up in sales? Hmm, my soucces must be out dated they say taht 360s beating it still. Can I have a link? (Im not doubting you or anything but for future debate purposes I dont want to be innacurate with my information or anything.)

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Doubtful unless the xbox takes off in Japan. Hard to be #1 when you are missing one of the largest gaming markets. It could be #1 in NA and Europe, however, if it continues to widen its appeal tothose regions.

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#21 Bentham
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Why does it matter if they "reach 1st place"? What does that mean anyways? I pretty sure Microsoft is only concerned about making a profit out of this Xbox expenditure. Reaching this elusive "1st place" seems largely irrelevant, and only relevant in System Wars.
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#22 CannedWorms
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[QUOTE="CannedWorms"]

:lol:

DS: 106 million

Wii: 51 million

PSP: 48 million

360: 31 million

PS3: 22 million

:|

dragonfly110

PSP has 360 passed up in sales? Hmm, my soucces must be out dated they say taht 360s beating it still. Can I have a link? (Im not doubting you or anything but for future debate purposes I dont want to be innacurate with my information or anything.)

I can't link with Firefox, but just head over to VGChartz (yes I know their software figures are off the mark, but not console sales). Ans the PSP has been selling more than the 360 since forever.:P

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#23 Kashiwaba
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[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

Microsoft has already won

CannedWorms

:lol:

DS: 106 million

Wii: 51 million

PSP: 48 million

360: 31 million

PS3: 22 million

:|

as what I remember 360 30 mils and ps3 23 mils.

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#24 CannedWorms
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Doubtful unless the xbox takes off in Japan. Hard to be #1 when you are missing one of the largest gaming markets. It could be #1 in NA and Europe, however, if it continues to widen its appeal tothose regions.

sonicare
Europe and USA is much much bigger than Japan. For home consoles Japan is irrelevant really, their about handhelds.
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#25 CannedWorms
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as what I remember 360 30 mils and ps3 23 mils.

Kashiwaba

Does it really matter?

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#26 Kashiwaba
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[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

as what I remember 360 30 mils and ps3 23 mils.

CannedWorms

Does it really matter?

no just wanted to make sure my info isnt outdated :P.

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#27 CannedWorms
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no just wanted to make sure my info isnt outdated :P.

Kashiwaba

Just to make sure your info isn't outdated for the near future, I'll give you the exact figures (according to VGChartz):

  • 360: 31.24 million
  • PS3: 22.45 million
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#28 jrabbit99
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i don't think anyone is going to pass the Wii
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#29 chicagodon
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Wait. The 360 was no. 1 in 05-06 Then when the Wii and PS3 launched it slipped to second in 2007 and third in 2011.

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#30 menserman
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i think there is a very good chance it will be number 1 next gen. if project natal can get some new users on board this gen and more people buy360 as it gets cheaper. they will get even better sales next gen. plus if they make xbl free or cheaper

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#31 Jfisch93
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Wait. The 360 was no. 1 in 05-06 Then when the Wii and PS3 launched it slipped to second in 2007 and third in 2011.

chicagodon

Umm... duh? it was the first next gen console out.

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#32 mythrol
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Last Gen, Microsoft beat Nintendo for 2nd place, while Sony was being in for 1st place. Now, this gen, it looks like that they'll be in 2nd place again, this time, beating Sony, while Nintendo is currently in for 1st place.

The question is, do you think that Microsoft will wind up being in 1st place for next gen, beating both Nintendo & Sony instead of just one competitor over the other the next time around?

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The 360 was in 1st place until the Wii passed it. Though, I don't really even count a Wii as in the same contest. It's obvious Nintendo is focused on a different audience. Sure it launched at the same time as the PS3 but should hardly be considered in this gen. As long as Microsoft is making money I don't think it's a problem where they rank. They're shipping great games and I'm enjoying them. That's all that matters.
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#33 SparkyProtocol
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Unlike Sony Microsoft has a chance of first place. They will have to claw their way up though, but there is a decent chance.
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#34 SparkyProtocol
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If Microsoft gets exclusive console rights for Blizzard games then they win next gen.

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Yep. I can picture Blizz making there next MMO a PC/Console game.
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#35 subrosian
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No, because they would have to beat out PC, which hasn't happened - ever. PC has won every generation since the dawn of gaming in both sales and games... so it's kind of a rough competition.