Will Microsoft use Blu-Ray in Xbox 3?

People keep saying that if Microsoft does this, Sony will get profits. But there are 9 companies that own blu-ray, so Microsoft can just ask Samsung or Pioneer to make the Blu-Ray drives and then PlayStation 4 wont' have a disk advantage on Xbox 3 and Sony won't have the contract with MS to make the drives. I think that in a struggling economy, the Xbox 360 and PS3 will be in for a long stay (as in until 2012-2014 possibly) to sell as many cheap units (that don't cost as much to make) as they can until Blu-Ray becomes standard. RyuHayabusaX

I don't think they will add Blu-Ray.

M$ is using DVD's, and paying out to companies, including sony, so that doesn't matter.

If Micros uses blu, which is likely, they will have to pay sony and others for the format, royalties. the actual manufacturer will get the most though, and im sure that won't be sony.

People keep saying that if Microsoft does this, Sony will get profits. But there are 9 companies that own blu-ray, so Microsoft can just ask Samsung or Pioneer to make the Blu-Ray drives and then PlayStation 4 wont' have a disk advantage on Xbox 3 and Sony won't have the contract with MS to make the drives. I think that in a struggling economy, the Xbox 360 and PS3 will be in for a long stay (as in until 2012-2014 possibly) to sell as many cheap units (that don't cost as much to make) as they can until Blu-Ray becomes standard. RyuHayabusaX

They said they wouldn't. I find it stupid that they are so against aid Sony in any possible way that they would completely disreguard Blu-Ray as a media format.

M$ also wants to push DD and microtransactions as much as possible.

i don't know, i mean by 2012 there should be a media format that can hold more space then blu-ray... right?st1ka

It's possible, but extremely unlikely, since BluRay can hold up to 400gigs now.

Yes, 400 gigs.

[QUOTE="st1ka"]i don't know, i mean by 2012 there should be a media format that can hold more space then blu-ray... right?XTy

It's possible, but extremely unlikely, since BluRay can hold up to 400gigs now.

Yes, 400 gigs.

i don't know, i mean by 2012 there should be a media format that can hold more space then blu-ray... right?st1ka

[QUOTE="XTy"]

[QUOTE="st1ka"]i don't know, i mean by 2012 there should be a media format that can hold more space then blu-ray... right?st1ka

It's possible, but extremely unlikely, since BluRay can hold up to 400gigs now.

Yes, 400 gigs.

i don't know, i mean by 2012 there should be a media format that can hold more space then blu-ray... right?st1ka

Blu-ray 400gb is expensive. Though pioneeer made 1tb it coost ove 500 dollars to make each disk.-Dark-Light-

Blu-ray 400gb is expensive. Though pioneeer made 1tb it coost ove 500 dollars to make each disk.-Dark-Light-

Don't you know that DVD's were expensive before the tech took off? That's how technology works. Today's prices are tomorrows bargain bins.

I know M$ wants to push DD, but HDD space is too limited for that to effectively work, not to mention devs like Id are just the beginning.

[QUOTE="st1ka"]i don't know, i mean by 2012 there should be a media format that can hold more space then blu-ray... right?XTy

It's possible, but extremely unlikely, since BluRay can hold up to 400gigs now.

Yes, 400 gigs.

[QUOTE="-Dark-Light-"]Blu-ray 400gb is expensive. Though pioneeer made 1tb it coost ove 500 dollars to make each disk.XTy

Don't you know that DVD's were expensive before the tech took off? That's how technology works. Today's prices are tomorrows bargain bins.

I know M$ wants to push DD, but HDD space is too limited for that to effectively work, not to mention devs like Id are just the beginning.

[QUOTE="XTy"]

[QUOTE="st1ka"]i don't know, i mean by 2012 there should be a media format that can hold more space then blu-ray... right?DeadMan1290

It's possible, but extremely unlikely, since BluRay can hold up to 400gigs now.

Yes, 400 gigs.

I dont know what that means, other than to say, now you know. congrats.

It's both, hurray.

Sony and MS and bedfellows just like all of us are. They need each other to do well just like I need some other crazy fanboy that I argue with here that lives 5000 miles from where I do and makes the widgets that goes into the gadget that I build for a living.

If someone is doing badly it drags us all down.

Sw is fun and all but try not to lose sight of the big picture here folks.

I think they'll use blu-ray unless ALL of the following are met:

1. They still work with Netflix and being able to stream newly released mainstream content becomes the norm.
2. The average broadband connection is fast enough to stream at least 720p content
3. Flash media becomes incredibly cheap for at least 50gb of content
4. Blu-Ray drives are still slow to where you can't have acceptable (load times on a 360 or Wii)

If all that is the case, I can see them not using Blu-Ray. They could actually go back to cartridges in the form of flash media since that would load at near hard drive speed and assuming the media has become incredibly cheap, it'll be faster than BD and affordable. If the average american household has internet connection fast enough to stream 720p content and hollywood finally jumps on the bandwagon and you can get a stream of a new movie basically day and date with the blu-ray release... well i think you're in a good spot and you don't need Blu-Ray.

However, if any of that isn't the case, I think only a complete fool would pass over on blu-ray for the next gen.

Plus, Sony goes to MS all the time so I doubt they are really gonna have a grudge match over this. Its not like Sony VAIO's come with Linux and OpenOffice. Its also doubtful that the corporate offices are running Macs.

MS is already paying for DVD9, so why would it matter to pay them next generation?

People keep saying that if Microsoft does this, Sony will get profits. But there are 9 companies that own blu-ray, so Microsoft can just ask Samsung or Pioneer to make the Blu-Ray drives and then PlayStation 4 wont' have a disk advantage on Xbox 3 and Sony won't have the contract with MS to make the drives. I think that in a struggling economy, the Xbox 360 and PS3 will be in for a long stay (as in until 2012-2014 possibly) to sell as many cheap units (that don't cost as much to make) as they can until Blu-Ray becomes standard. RyuHayabusaX

Sony owns 45% of blu ray and yes no matter what MS would have to pay them.

"But there are 9 companies that own blu-ray, so Microsoft can just ask Samsung or Pioneer to make the Blu-Ray "

It doesn't work think that , it all goes by what share each company owns and the profits are split according to that , it doesn't matter if Microsoft goes to Pioneer or samsung , Sony along with the rest of the company's on the BD board will still get a piece of the pie

And i presume Sony holds the majority of shares so they will make the most profit if Microsoft uses Blu ray next gen, Microsoft doesn't want this so i doubt there will be a Blu ray drive in the next Xbox

Id say theres 70% to 30% chance that there will be no blu ray drive in the next xbox