Will Nintendo make good on their promise to make Switch a core gamer's console?

I really hope so, SW. I want to see modern takes on classic franchises like Metroid, Earthbound, and Advance Wars. I don't care that much about third party, I'm a manticore. I want the good Nintendo stuff. Can I get a hell yeah, SW?

Didn't they promise that with the Wii U?

No you cannot get a hell yeah,never.

Nintendo said that shit with Wii U and look how that turn out! That should give you an idea what to expect from Switch.

Nintendo promised a great deal with the Wii U. Here in the states Reggie parroted so much poppycock that one needs to remain pessimistic until Nintendo changes such a feeling into optimism with actual results.

It will have some Nintendo games probably (Metroid Prime?), but from third party, no major titles. The majority of titles will not be aimed at the core gamer

There was plenty of the "good Nintendo stuff" on the Wii U.

What do you mean by core's gamer choice though? I mean it will get 3rd party support but most of them will be by small studios or indie developers. I hope we get 3DS games on it though.

@Solaryellow: lol, that's about what I thought.

@davillain-: The Wii U has some amazing games though. Its biggest failure was its branding. If you look past the fact that it sold so poorly, it's not that bad of console.

I'm not saying the Wii U is a bad console, Nintendo stated Wii U is for the core gamers but a few gamers were disappointed with the lack of 3rd party games.

Now rather we will see Switch will live up to the expectations, we'll have to find out on launch day and will be getting my Switch day one.

No.

@SolidGame_basic: I would say expect more titles like 1. 2 switch, Nintendo land, and wii sports than I would expect Zelda, metal gear, fallout, or the witcher.

I expect it won't be that different from the Wii U. Entries in the franchises that appear on every Nintendo console ,a couple of new ips, and revisiting a few dormant ones.

They said that about Wii U but didn't make any Metroid games. What's that about?

How do you make a core platform missing all the features/power found on the x1 and ps4??

No. Not like hardcore gamers actually care if they do anyway...

Not true but not going to waste money on crappy hardware missing features and games that also cost more and has the worst online gaming ect ect ect

Very true, actually. They have either moved so far past Nintendo at this point, or never gave a damn to begin with when they go as far and state they only ever like the NES and SNES for "that third party support", much to the point of following Sony when said third parties moved.

You gotta compete for the core gamer and nintendo is on some blue ocean shit chasing casual gamers.

Said "blue ocean" being something they aimed for after "hardcores" gave their "screw you's" up to the GameCube (before the mass revisionism), and only just barely before the Wii U's release did that solidify with that ONE game?

@nintendoboy16: The GC had power but no storage or online gaming or a dvd player. The 3rd party support was also weak. If your going to compete you have to match or better the comp. Nintendo refuses to compete and that is why the core gamer has left them.

In the reveal promos, they showed special editions for Arkham Knight and Mass Effect 3, among a few others. Problem is, over the long run these 3rd party favorites are few and far between, too few in the life span for the system to be considered "core centric". Thus leaving Nintendo (as usual) reliant on their established staples of Mario, Zelda, and Metroid.

Expect history to repeat here, they'll show some core potential in the early reveal, only not to sustain it.

I wonder how longer will history repeats itself.

Gamers say that competition is good for them, but Nintendo is not competing as any good business should and does it own thing.

"No storage" - Neither did PS2 if you're talking about built in saves for consoles, which only JUST started with the XBOX and didn't become a trend until the gen after that.

"Online gaming" - fair enough, but online was why XBOX Original was losing it's reception when XBL died for it.

"DVD Player" - I'm sorry, but if "hardcore" have to use a gimmick NOT IMPORTANT to gaming to bash a system, than that shows how much they really give a damn. Oh no! I can't watch my collection of Star Wars, Jackie Chan, James Bond, Dragon Ball, Marvel (MCU and non-MCU) etc on my GC, Wii, and Wii U, whatever shall I do... *finds a cheap DVD/Blu-Ray player or uses computer*

Perhaps it's a GOOD thing the "hardcore" "abandoned" Nintendo. All they need to do is stop asking them to pander to them, when they'll ignore it, or complain even then.

And delivered significantly in the first party department. It was a damn shame so many so-called "core gamers" ignored it.

@SolidGame_basic: Did you just call yourself a manticore? Lmao! Haha please.

No.

How can you make good on being a core gamers platform, when you miss out on the most games? Quantity matters people, you simply have more options when it comes to the libraries of the PC, PS4, and Xbox. Nintendo games are good, great even, a class or 3 better than the other 2 major first parties, but those other platforms aren't built on just the first party. I think the Switch will have a stronger library than the WiiU, might have something resembling what a really good DS/3DS library looks like, but that's a stone's throw away from being where the PC is. Even the other pathetic consoles will be far ahead of it.

@no-scope-AK47: n64 had power gc had power but failed

Ya and wiiu did have great third party but no body bought the games so they stopped coming

I hope so. As long as they produce a steady flow of quality games and attract third party support to produce titles too, I'll be happy. It's not quality that is the problem for me but quantity. More games is what the Switch needs to be ahead of the Wii U in my book.

Granted, this is never going to look similar to the support the Xbox One and PS4 are getting. I am not expecting titles like Red Dead Redemption 2, but that's not the only form third part support has to take.

Fingers crossed. :)

They broke that promise already. It should have better 3rd party support than the Wii U did in 2014-2016 because it won't be hard to do better than that. In those years for the Wii U the 3rd party support was almost nonexistent.

@nintendoboy16: When I say storage I meant the disc format the GC used tiny disc. Just like now the wii/wii u finally got the disc size but no hard drive. This makes 3rd parties have to create custom games for nintendo's platform and that is not realistic to expect.

Same deal with the online support nintendo is way behind. So you have pc/ps4/x1 all can get 3rd party support with small tweaks. Then they get to nintendo and the power/storage and online support is way behind the rest. It's like nintendo goes out of their way to discourage 3rd party support.

Core gamers want the most games and nintendo has made sure that is impossible with their hardware choices IMO.

Does their Launch Line Up look very "Core" to you?

Switch has less 3rd party support than WiiU did at launch, the hardware is weaker than consoles that released in 2013 and they still lock content for their exclusives games behind $15 happy meal toys.

@NathanDrakeSwag: Just give us Zelda and all is forgiven.

Probably not but that will not stop people from buying it they launched wii u way to early I will get one for Zelda that's it

@iandizion713: You have such low standards that 1 Zelda every 5-6 years keeps you loyal to a company.

No, no they wont. Id be happily surprised if they did. But from what we've seen so far (granted console still isn't out yet) I have little to believe that they will

@NathanDrakeSwag: I cant help it, ive been brainwashed by Zelda. I must save Hyrule, my future depends on it.

Believe it when I see, I'll just be glad if Switchy doesn't go through the same games drought as Wii U did. Doesn't matter if it can't get the same AAA games as it competitors (due to weak sauce hardware) as long as it gets games - hopefully more JPN games/JRPGs. :P

People say "bu bu but Wiiu"...

There's no 3ds to compete against so Switch will get all the Nintendo support. Now let's see what 3rd party is cooking up as this is big mystery.

I'm liking the rumours of South Park being ported to Switch. These are games I'd love to play on the Switch.

The Nintendo Switch is more core gamer system then any other system that plays video games period ... The rest is casual ... how is ps4 xbox one the core system when u have more movies and music then games on it ... some people buy them for its blu ray or streaming service or smart tv functions without ever buying a single game ... U can't say that about the Switch its the only "hardcore" 100% video game system left ... So already that is a hell yeah

@snapcracklenpop: isn't it more the person who owns the console than the console itself?! no one us forced to use features or play games on specific hardware.

@dobzilian: that is a good point but system wars not people wars ... i was speaking about the systems out not the people who play on them ... just because a guy or girl plays only games still doesn't discount the fact of what the system is ... which are entertainment systems ... this isn't an opinion its a fact ... Nintendo Switch is the only 100% gaming related video game system left ... whos buying a Nintendo Switch for anything other then video games ... no one ... Another point with 3rd party for the Nintendo Switch I think we see the biggest 3rd party effort since snes ... 3rd party should look at the switch and say our games have to compete with other games ... Not netflix youtube twitch hbo and whatever else is on these systems that are non gaming related

Look at what they're saying.

Nintendo Reiterates That Their Main Focus With Nintendo Switch Is About Fun, Not Power

Nintendo Defends Price Point Of The Nintendo Switch, Joy-Con And Steady Stream Of Software Will Triumph

They never promised anything like that with the Switch. All they said was that they want it to be a console that core and casual gamers can enjoy. Really, why develop games based on this dicthonomy at all. Just make good games, who cares if they're casual, hardcore, or what. If it's good, then that's all that matters.

This game says no.

*Looks at WiiUs lineup*

No F zero

No Punchout

No Metroid

No Kid Icarus

A sh*tty Star Fox

..F*k No!

I think it the answer is no but it wont matter. I can already see this wont be anything like WiiU. I'm talking about interest from the general public when i say that. The reason behind WiiU's failure was obvious. Nintendo kind of abandoned core gamers in favor of non-gamers when they designed the Wii. The WiiU was a slight step back towards the core gamers but it wasn't sufficient and non-gamers wont care about a new system that just looks like Wii v2.0, that is why it tanked.

When you consider that and also consider the obvious intent of this system to replace 3DS (and kill Vita), its pretty clear to me this system will do very well on the sales front. And no, i dont care what nonsense Reggie or any of their other execs claim about this selling side-by-side with 3DS. They have to say that for now. Telling consumers to abandon the 3DS is not an intelligent decision until they decide that for themselves but that is obviously the eventual goal.