Will PS3 Oblivion score 9.6 at least? or not even that?

On gamespot PS3 games tend to have a BAD review always.

for exemple:

Resistence

IGN - 9.1
GS - 8.6

Virtua Fighter 5

IGN - 8.8
GS - 8.1

will they under-rate Oblivion for the PS3. Even after saying this: 

Oblivion looks better on PS3

 "Based on what we've seen recently of a nearly finished PS3 build of Oblivion, at least the game will end up looking noticeably better for all this waiting. The real enhancement is in the visuals and, to some extent, the loading times. The game seemed to have a slightly smoother and more consistent frame rate than it did on the Xbox, though the difference wasn't enormous, and it seemed to us that the textures looked just a tad sharper. More obvious (and confirmed by Bethesda) was an improvement to the game's texturing over large distances."
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/rpg/theelderscrollsivoblivion/news.html?sid=6165505&tag=gumballs;title;2

PS3 Oblivion beats X360 in Speed and Graphics

"even when compared to the HD display put out by Xbox 360, PS3's rendition of Oblivion's jaw-dropping countryside is considerably crisper and richer than its soft focussed rival."

"A regular complaint levelled at the 360 version was the long loading times compared to PC, and I must admit being worried that PS3 would suffer a similar fate. But curse me for ever doubting Sony's mighty machine because the combination of the speedy Cell and RSX processors and the sheer amount of data that Blu-ray can spit out in one go, means that Oblivion on PS3 loads very quickly,"

"I'd estimate it loads as fast, if not faster than the PC version (on a mid-spec machine); moving from outside to in or vice versa, loads in a second or two, with fast-travelling across the entire map taking just a few seconds more. Also, bear in mind I'm looking at preview code, not the finished game, and load times can be optimised further prior to launch."
http://www.ps3news.ca/02182007/10/report_ps3_oblivion_beats_xbox_360_in_speed_graphics

its outdated it should score lesstomertr

what about GTA 3 and Vice City. Both versions scored 9.6 and the xbox version came mutch later. 

GTA III (PS2) - 9.6
GTA III (XBOX) - 9.6

GTA Vice City (PS2) - 9.6
GTA Vice City (XBOX) - 9.6

what do you have to say about that?

and i think ign overscores games not the other way aroundtomertr

you bet Gears of War scored 9.4 on IGN, way overrated lol

[QUOTE="tomertr"]its outdated it should score less, and i think ign overscores games not the other way aroundgriver_heart

what about GTA 3 and Vice City. Both versions scored 9.6 and the xbox version came mutch later. 

GTA III (PS2) - 9.6
GTA III (XBOX) - 9.6

GTA Vice City (PS2) - 9.6
GTA Vice City (XBOX) - 9.6

what do you have to say about that?

All your bolding and caps makes u sound angry. That's what I have to say. Nothing is black and white- everything falls in the gray area... We all have to play the waiting game, now.musicalmac

I'm not angry its just to focus the main ideas. Just to got eye of the readers.
Do you read every post? no.

If my other post wasn't in caps and bold would you read it?no.

[QUOTE="musicalmac"]All your bolding and caps makes u sound angry. That's what I have to say. Nothing is black and white- everything falls in the gray area... We all have to play the waiting game, now.griver_heart

I'm not angry its just to focus the main ideas. Just to got eye of the readers.
Do you read every post? no.

If my other post wasn't in caps and bold would you read it?no.

Well it is a year old so that will knock off points. Plus its a PS3 game so that knocks off a few more points. If Jeff reviews it then it may get low AA anyone else and it will probably get 9.0-9.3. Somewhere in that range.echelon

Dude, it's a YEAR OLD port.

The differences in the two games will be minimal, and it's a year old now. If I had to guess I'd say 9.3.

PS: Even 1up gave Resistance a lower score than Gamespot did...... I wouldn't exactly say Gamespot horribly underrated it when it has an 88% at GR.

It would not make any sense for the PS3 version of Oblivion to get a lower score than the 360 version. They are the same game. The PS3 version even adds a little bit of improvements, so it should get at least the same score. Just because it came out a year later doesn't make it any less enjoyable of a game. The only big difference is the presence of force feedback.

5 reasons the PS3 should get the same score or better: Click Here.
WARRZONE

[QUOTE="tomertr"]its outdated it should score lessgriver_heart

what about GTA 3 and Vice City. Both versions scored 9.6 and the xbox version came mutch later. 

GTA III (PS2) - 9.6
GTA III (XBOX) - 9.6

GTA Vice City (PS2) - 9.6
GTA Vice City (XBOX) - 9.6

what do you have to say about that?

and i think ign overscores games not the other way aroundtomertr

you bet Gears of War scored 9.4 on IGN, way overrated lol

if the games is the same then I don't see why it wouldn't score the same

It would not make any sense for the PS3 version of Oblivion to score lower than the 360 version. They are basically the same game. The PS3 version adds just a little bit of improvements. Just because it came out a year later doesn't make it any less enjoyable of a game. The only big difference between the two is the presence and absence of force feedback.  I don't think the game is going to have tilt functionality.

5 reasons the PS3 should get the same score or better: Click Here.
WARRZONE

Because standards improve over time, and ports have a tendency to score less than their original versions especially if they're a year old or more.

It's the same reason games on the VC, take OoT for example, score much less than they originally did. As time passes standards improve.. and games, especially old ports, are held to that new standard.

[QUOTE="tomertr"]its outdated it should score lessgriver_heart

what about GTA 3 and Vice City. Both versions scored 9.6 and the xbox version came mutch later.

GTA III (PS2) - 9.6
GTA III (XBOX) - 9.6

GTA Vice City (PS2) - 9.6
GTA Vice City (XBOX) - 9.6

what do you have to say about that?

and i think ign overscores games not the other way aroundtomertr

you bet Gears of War scored 9.4 on IGN, way overrated lol

[QUOTE="WARRZONE"]It would not make any sense for the PS3 version of Oblivion to score lower than the 360 version. They are basically the same game. The PS3 version adds just a little bit of improvements. Just because it came out a year later doesn't make it any less enjoyable of a game. The only big difference between the two is the presence and absence of force feedback. I don't think the game is going to have tilt functionality.

5 reasons the PS3 should get the same score or better: Click Here.
Buff-McBlumpkin

Because standards improve over time, and ports have a tendency to score less than their original versions especially if they're a year old or more.

It's the same reason games on the VC, take OoT for example, score much less than they originally did. As time passes standard improve.

No it wont score that high on GS, not because the game is a year old. The game has improvements, but they are slight ones for it being a whole year. I say it will score around an 9.0 maybe a little higher say 9.3

[QUOTE="Buff-McBlumpkin"]

[QUOTE="WARRZONE"]It would not make any sense for the PS3 version of Oblivion to score lower than the 360 version. They are basically the same game. The PS3 version adds just a little bit of improvements. Just because it came out a year later doesn't make it any less enjoyable of a game. The only big difference between the two is the presence and absence of force feedback. I don't think the game is going to have tilt functionality.

5 reasons the PS3 should get the same score or better: Click Here.
ken_gamer

Because standards improve over time, and ports have a tendency to score less than their original versions especially if they're a year old or more.

It's the same reason games on the VC, take OoT for example, score much less than they originally did. As time passes standard improve.

It's actually less than a decade old - but yes, it is old none the less. I was using it to prove a point, obviously the point loss for Oblivion will be far less extreme because far less time has passed. Ocarina will most likely lose more than a full point, Oblivion will likely only lose a few tenths less.

And no - the GTA examples botch your theory.

SA on the PS2 scored a 9.6, on the XBox it nabbed a 9.2 (released nearly a year later):

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/gta4/index.html

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/gta4/index.html?q=grand%20theft%20auto

The reason III and Vice City got the same score is because it was a DOUBLE PACK - 2 improved versions of the  games put into one package. It was both games put into one that only scored as well as the PS2 games rated separately. Why? Becuase they were was old, albeit improved, ports.

It will get lower. It's been a year since it came out, and standards have been raised, especially with all the great games coming out this year. I'm sure it AAA, but lower than the 360 version.

Keep in mind though, even though the GTA example doesn't make sense seeing as the XBox version was a double pack, it is not completely unprecedented for a port to score equal or even higher than the original. It can't be a merely "slightly improved" port though, it has to be drastically changed or improved. This is why the vast majority of old ports tend to score less, because they don't have enough refinement to distace themselves from the originals and keep up with the changed standards. Is a small amount of extra draw distance and slightly less loading times enough to net the PS3 version an equal score?

Take the original Onimusha for example. On the PS2 is scored only and 8.4, on the XBox (despite being a port of an older game) it actually scored a higher 8.7. Why? Because it was so drastically changed, refined, and improved. It had the minor changes (new costumes, cutscenes,  and a 5.1 surround track,) slightly more important changes (more enemies onscreen at once, completely new enemies, completely new areas, completely altered gameplay including a new burst attack,) and major gameplay chages (the new green soul energy changed how the game was and how enjoyable the battles were.) The question is does the PS3 make changes this major to Oblivion? No, it's more of a straight-up port... it does improve draw distance slightly though but the gameplay will be untouched. How will this slight refinement of the visuals affect the score of a one year old port? Who knows, only time will tell. 

Tell me a different game that had a port come out 1 year later and score the same. No , it wont score 9.6 , but it will still be a good game. I dont care much about it , I played it on my 360 last yearasdasd

xbox360 will get that update so we'll se which one looks betterventure00

One year old port is going to hurt it more than the extra content will help it but it'll still get AAA status...I'd say around 9.3crazygamer1

[QUOTE="WARRZONE"]It would not make any sense for the PS3 version of Oblivion to score lower than the 360 version. They are basically the same game. The PS3 version adds just a little bit of improvements. Just because it came out a year later doesn't make it any less enjoyable of a game. The only big difference between the two is the presence and absence of force feedback. I don't think the game is going to have tilt functionality.

5 reasons the PS3 should get the same score or better: Click Here.
Buff-McBlumpkin

Because standards improve over time, and ports have a tendency to score less than their original versions especially if they're a year old or more.

It's the same reason games on the VC, take OoT for example, score much less than they originally did. As time passes standards improve.. and games, especially old ports, are held to that new standard.

Well it is a year old so that will knock off points. Plus its a PS3 game so that knocks off a few more points. If Jeff reviews it then it may get low AA anyone else and it will probably get 9.0-9.3. Somewhere in that range.echelon

Anyway, you shouldn't focus on that. Instead, be happy because Bethesda is going to give the PS3 its first AAA.

[QUOTE="echelon"]Well it is a year old so that will knock off points. Plus its a PS3 game so that knocks off a few more points. If Jeff reviews it then it may get low AA anyone else and it will probably get 9.0-9.3. Somewhere in that range.DrinkDuff

[QUOTE="Buff-McBlumpkin"]

[QUOTE="WARRZONE"]It would not make any sense for the PS3 version of Oblivion to score lower than the 360 version. They are basically the same game. The PS3 version adds just a little bit of improvements. Just because it came out a year later doesn't make it any less enjoyable of a game. The only big difference between the two is the presence and absence of force feedback. I don't think the game is going to have tilt functionality.

5 reasons the PS3 should get the same score or better: Click Here.
tonemd_basic

Because standards improve over time, and ports have a tendency to score less than their original versions especially if they're a year old or more.

It's the same reason games on the VC, take OoT for example, score much less than they originally did. As time passes standards improve.. and games, especially old ports, are held to that new standard.

The answer is "Time."

It's not just better games that raise standards, time itself can raise them. When you play a game, and a full year passes, and then you play the same game on a different system it feels dated and doesn't give you the same impression it did when you first played it. Why? Because you've been there and done that a full year ago.  You expect something more, something different, something improved. That's why ports of excellent games tend to score less despite the fact that sometimes no games in their genre have surpassed the originals during the window it took from when the games were originally released to when the ports were released (just like GTA SA on the PS2 followed by GTA SA on the XBoxa year later.) People don't want to wait a year for the "privilege" of playing the exact same game year after year, people want something different - something considerably better.

Many people will tell you no FPS has surpassed Half Life 2 since it was released (that's debatable obviously, but let's both assume that's the general consensus.) If the exact same game were released on the 360 and the PS3 today would it score the same as it originally did on the PC? No, time has passed - people expect more than they've seen and played in the past.