Will reviewers who imported the Vita and games lead to lower review scores?

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#1 dark_drag765
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Sony releasing Vita in Japan first was a bad move, Nintendo was right in releasing in all territories. Even then Sony should have pushed the Vita in the US or EU not Jp imo.

Alot of Reviewers in the US imported copies of the Vita games so will the extended period of time with the Vita cause the games to recieve lower scores?

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#2 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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How does this even work?
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#4 dark_drag765
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How does this even work?charizard1605

My bad for not ellaborating, usually hype and initial impressions effect a review from my opinion (I am not saying that is a fact).

Do you think that reviewers would give Grand Theft Auto IV a 10 if they played it for months before reviewing it, in my view I feel there would be less 10s.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]How does this even work?dark_drag765

My bad for not ellaborating, usually hype and initial impressions effect a review from my opinion (I am not saying that is a fact).

Do you think that reviewers would give Grand Theft Auto IV a 10 if they played it for months before reviewing it, in my view I feel there would be less 10s.

Ah, I see now what you mean, and I think you might be right. Look at Destructoid's review for Golden Abyss for instance. It got a 9.5, because it was an import copy. I am willing to bet it will be an outlying higher score because of the very same reasons you mentioned. In this case, I believe that yes, Vita launch games may in fact receive lower scores than they would have otherwise.
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#6 Goyoshi12
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Why would that lead to lower review scores?

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#7 jonathant5
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I dont know, it could happen given that a lot of high scores are due to hype, and with the Vita games, if a reviewer had played it for months, then the hype wont be there. But, that does not necesarilly mean that Vita games scores will be worse, but there is a chance. I agree, I also feel like that they should either have released it worldwide right away, or released it in NA+EU and maybe even AU first. For several reasons, one being that most of Vitas current games appeal more to the western audience that the Japanese one. Secondly, because Japanes gamers have weird (and imo poor taste in games, I mean wth considers gundam and dynasty warriors, and hell even monster hunter games to be good other than japanese people), and lastly, I feel like the Japanese market is significantly less important than the NA and EU markets.
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It got a 9.5, because it was an import copy.charizard1605
Well, let's not jump to that kind of conclusion.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]It got a 9.5, because it was an import copy.Cherokee_Jack
Well, let's not jump to that kind of conclusion.

The review states it was an import copy
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]It got a 9.5, because it was an import copy.charizard1605
Well, let's not jump to that kind of conclusion.

The review states it was an import copy

I mean that it got 9.5 because they imported it, though maybe you just worded it funny. If so never mind.
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] Well, let's not jump to that kind of conclusion.

The review states it was an import copy

I mean that it got 9.5 because they imported it, though maybe you just worded it funny. If so never mind.

Oh, what I meant to say was, TC's point is that game review scores are inflated because of release hype, and that Vita game scores will suffer because of the gap between Japanese and western releases (which will enable the initial release hype to fade away and for reviewers to be more critical of a game's faults). In other words, Vita's launch titles will be scored lower than they could have. I used Golden Abyss's Destructoid score as an example by stating that its high score (based on an import copy) will probably be the outlier once all is said and done. The post was vague though, I agree.
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#12 D4W1L4H
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Makes perfect sense.

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#13 dream431ca
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First of all, NA review sites should not be reviewing imports, unless you can only get that game as an import.

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#14 JLF1MarkII
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First of all, NA review sites should not be reviewing imports, unless you can only get that game as an import.

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Why not?

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#15 zarshack
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First of all, NA review sites should not be reviewing imports, unless you can only get that game as an import.

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If its in a language they fully understand i dont see why not.

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#17 SuperFlakeman
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[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

First of all, NA review sites should not be reviewing imports, unless you can only get that game as an import.

JLF1MarkII

Why not?

How can they comment on the voice acting and dialogue translation of the NA version?

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#18 JLF1MarkII
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[QUOTE="JLF1MarkII"]

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

First of all, NA review sites should not be reviewing imports, unless you can only get that game as an import.

SuperFlakeman

Why not?

How can they comment on the voice acting and dialogue translation of the NA version?


If it's in english who cares?

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Reviewers tend to not like nintendo much which is like their only competition. I wouldn't worry about the scores.

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#20 zarshack
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[QUOTE="JLF1MarkII"]

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

First of all, NA review sites should not be reviewing imports, unless you can only get that game as an import.

SuperFlakeman

Why not?

How can they comment on the voice acting and dialogue translation of the NA version?

Well in the case just mentioned we were talking about Uncharted... Which has the full english voice tracks... There isnt any translation that needs to be done.

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#21 SaltyMeatballs
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3DS came out first in Japan too.
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#22 JLF1MarkII
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3DS came out first in Japan too.SaltyMeatballs

And look how poor the reviews were for those games once they hit the US :P

Isn't that proof enough that the TC is correct? :o

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#23 babycakin
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If reviewers are going to import games, than I believe they should score it accordingly in a timely basis, meaning don't wait until 3 weeks for the launch to then score it. The reviewer's personal hype would be gone and he/she could judge the game differently than if the game was scored say, 3 days after playing it? I think most reviewers would know this

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I don't think it will affect it much. Not many NA players have played or talked about the games yet.
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#25 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]3DS came out first in Japan too.JLF1MarkII

And look how poor the reviews were for those games once they hit the US :P

It's that proof enough that the TC is correct? :o

No, the 3DS launch lineup was meh.
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#26 TwoFace-BS
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I think I get what TC is saying and I think its a good thing then that these reviews arent getting affected by hype.They might be lower scores,but they will hopefully be more honest scores
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#27 nitekids2004
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Some of the hype may be gone.

But hey, at least we get a more accurate review.

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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]The review states it was an import copycharizard1605
I mean that it got 9.5 because they imported it, though maybe you just worded it funny. If so never mind.

Oh, what I meant to say was, TC's point is that game review scores are inflated because of release hype, and that Vita game scores will suffer because of the gap between Japanese and western releases (which will enable the initial release hype to fade away and for reviewers to be more critical of a game's faults). In other words, Vita's launch titles will be scored lower than they could have. I used Golden Abyss's Destructoid score as an example by stating that its high score (based on an import copy) will probably be the outlier once all is said and done. The post was vague though, I agree.

its not a huge outlier so far. Uncharted golden abyss has more than one review and so far the critics are absolutely in love with it. The lowest score is eurogamer's and thats mostly because eurogamer is overall tired of uncharted (explaining the 8 they gave uc3) and also, YES YES YES....vita should have been released worldwide during xmas season. It would have made perfect sense, Sony knew the vita lineup is more geared to the western audience, and anything sells much much better during xmas. Im guessing they moved it to spring to give more time for modnation and wipeout and other good games to be finished in time for the launch day. But even still. xmas worldwide release just makes more sense
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] I mean that it got 9.5 because they imported it, though maybe you just worded it funny. If so never mind.ms555
Oh, what I meant to say was, TC's point is that game review scores are inflated because of release hype, and that Vita game scores will suffer because of the gap between Japanese and western releases (which will enable the initial release hype to fade away and for reviewers to be more critical of a game's faults). In other words, Vita's launch titles will be scored lower than they could have. I used Golden Abyss's Destructoid score as an example by stating that its high score (based on an import copy) will probably be the outlier once all is said and done. The post was vague though, I agree.

its not a huge outlier so far. Uncharted golden abyss has more than one review and so far the critics are absolutely in love with it. The lowest score is eurogamer's and thats mostly because eurogamer is overall tired of uncharted (explaining the 8 they gave uc3) and also, YES YES YES....vita should have been released worldwide during xmas season. It would have made perfect sense, Sony knew the vita lineup is more geared to the western audience, and anything sells much much better during xmas. Im guessing they moved it to spring to give more time for modnation and wipeout and other good games to be finished in time for the launch day. But even still. xmas worldwide release just makes more sense

I agree they shouldve launched during xmas, even just to get that initial push to start the buzz.... knowing sony and their marketing, I dont see them flooding the air with advertising (although thats an educated guess) and it would be a worry of mine that if the US doesnt pick up on this thing, it will be a long uphill fight... As for the reason behind the delay, I would hope it wouldnt be for a couple games, though maybe they really didnt want to have a bum lineup at launch.
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#30 ms555
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[QUOTE="ms555"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] Oh, what I meant to say was, TC's point is that game review scores are inflated because of release hype, and that Vita game scores will suffer because of the gap between Japanese and western releases (which will enable the initial release hype to fade away and for reviewers to be more critical of a game's faults). In other words, Vita's launch titles will be scored lower than they could have. I used Golden Abyss's Destructoid score as an example by stating that its high score (based on an import copy) will probably be the outlier once all is said and done. The post was vague though, I agree.TheEroica
its not a huge outlier so far. Uncharted golden abyss has more than one review and so far the critics are absolutely in love with it. The lowest score is eurogamer's and thats mostly because eurogamer is overall tired of uncharted (explaining the 8 they gave uc3) and also, YES YES YES....vita should have been released worldwide during xmas season. It would have made perfect sense, Sony knew the vita lineup is more geared to the western audience, and anything sells much much better during xmas. Im guessing they moved it to spring to give more time for modnation and wipeout and other good games to be finished in time for the launch day. But even still. xmas worldwide release just makes more sense

I agree they shouldve launched during xmas, even just to get that initial push to start the buzz.... knowing sony and their marketing, I dont see them flooding the air with advertising (although thats an educated guess) and it would be a worry of mine that if the US doesnt pick up on this thing, it will be a long uphill fight... As for the reason behind the delay, I would hope it wouldnt be for a couple games, though maybe they really didnt want to have a bum lineup at launch.

i would hope to but i really DO think its because of the games. Sony said last year that they were observing how the world responded to 3DS launch and taking notes, and they saw that the number one complaint was a lack of good games. That has definitely been Sony's number one priority, making sure vita launches with at least one game EVERYBODY will enjoy. Now if vita launched with what japan got, really only uncharted would have caught anyones eye. Ninja gaiden, wipeout, modnation, gravity rush, rayman origins, escape plan, and many more were not ready during xmas, the US launch lineup would have been poor If you really think about it, it wasnt because the US vita wasnt ready. The Japanese vita almost exactly the same as the US vita, it is even fully useable in english. Sony COULD HAVE launched the US vita already if they really wanted, they are trying to build up a good launch lineup
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Any reviewer that reviews based off a game they imported is a moron and doesn't deserve his/her job. Games change all the time when going from release in one region to being released in another.
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Sony releasing Vita in Japan first was a bad move, Nintendo was right in releasing in all territories. Even then Sony should have pushed the Vita in the US or EU not Jp imo.

Alot of Reviewers in the US imported copies of the Vita games so will the extended period of time with the Vita cause the games to recieve lower scores?

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I know what you mean. There's already such a negative attitude surrounding the device that it might turn out to be the "cool" thing to hate when it finally arrives. It's almost as if there is no first impression for the rest of the market, because since sales have been bad a lot of people automatically think "wow this device must suck." It's like having someone hand you a film and say, "you need to watch this it is considered to be one of the worst piles of craps ever released."

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