Will the dvd-rom drive cost the 360 the war?

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#1 k0wing
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am i the only one worried about the fact that the 360 only has a dvd-rom drive. what is MS going to do about this. it was only this week alone the folks at id make mention of the restrains a dvd-rom has on the 360. Games as large as MGS4 cannot even begin to hold on a dvd dual layer or not. as we move into the future arent games going to become lager and lager wat is MS going to do??
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#2 superjim42
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they are pushing for digital distibution so dont be suprised to see xbox360 games come as downloadables soon
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#4 6matt6
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Multiple discs.
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#5 WillieBeamish
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Yes, you are the only one worried. When games consistently look better and run longer on the 360, I feel sorry for fakeboys like you who want to bury the fact that blu-ray is more of a hinderance to the PS3 than DVD is to the 360.
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#6 ReaperV7
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yes.
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#7 angelkimne
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If anything helps Sony beat MS, which they will, it will be the brand name, not disk format.
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#8 angelkimne
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yes.ReaperV7
You would say that wouldn't you :roll:
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#9 Dreams-Visions
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No.

First of all, MS already lost the war to Nintendo, which also features a DVD drive. so obviously the drive isn't keeping people from buying it.

Second of all, that DVD drive hasn't kept the biggest titles of the generation from debuting on the Xbox 360.

Third of all, if MS loses 2nd place in the war, it'll be because of the Xbox brand name. Because they have the best online solution and best library of games by far this generation. But brand names and brand loyalty mean something.

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am i the only one worried about the fact that the 360 only has a dvd-rom drive. what is MS going to do about this. it was only this week alone the folks at id make mention of the restrains a dvd-rom has on the 360. Games as large as MGS4 cannot even begin to hold on a dvd dual layer or not. as we move into the future arent games going to become lager and lager wat is MS going to do??k0wing
Continue what they've been doing. Having 99% of their games fit on a single DVD, and multidisc the few that need more. News of a game well more than a year away that MAY look slightly worse on the 360(which happened with almost every PS2 game even though it won the generation)is being blown out of proportion.
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#11 SpruceCaboose
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I thought this thread was a bump from 2006.... Spooky.
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#12 EuroMafia
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Why is MGS4 30gb's?
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#13 RickLemieux
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In my opinion the 360 already won the war. It has the best games and to me that's more important. I've played the 360 way more than the PS3 or Wii. For some reason I always get multiplatform games on the 360. This is all my opinion of course and if you like the Wii or the PS3 more, good for you. ENJOY!
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#14 Dreams-Visions
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Why is MGS4 30gb's?EuroMafia
idunno. good question. but that size wouldn't have prevented it being on the 360.

Act 1 & 2 = Disc 1

Act 3 & 4 - Disc 2

Act 5 & MGO = Disc 3

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#15 Dreams-Visions
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In my opinion the 360 already won the war. RickLemieux
you need to define what war you're talking about, because Nintendo already crushed MS and Sony.

Crushed.

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#16 angelkimne
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I thought this thread was a bump from 2006.... Spooky.SpruceCaboose
You posted on SW in 06 ????

Long time ago.

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am i the only one worried about the fact that the 360 only has a dvd-rom drive. what is MS going to do about this. it was only this week alone the folks at id make mention of the restrains a dvd-rom has on the 360. Games as large as MGS4 cannot even begin to hold on a dvd dual layer or not. as we move into the future arent games going to become lager and lager wat is MS going to do??k0wing

newsflash , xbox 360 never owned the war , theyre on track to be last this gen

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#18 ChrnoTrigger
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It won't, 360 seems to be doing fine with the DVD.
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#19 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]I thought this thread was a bump from 2006.... Spooky.angelkimne

You posted on SW in 06 ????

Long time ago.

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#20 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]I thought this thread was a bump from 2006.... Spooky.SpruceCaboose

You posted on SW in 06 ????

Long time ago.

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I joined in late 06 to use this site for cheats and gameguides but i never actually started using the forums until mid 07.

And even then it was just the GTA 4 and Xbox 360 forums.

I only moved onto SW in like November last year....

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#21 ceruxx
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Isn't microsoft doing the same thing as sega?

Dreamcast used a GD-ROM format that wasn't quite a CD and wasn't quite a DVD.

Is that what XBOX360 uses? Not quite DVD definitely not bluray? Or do I have it wrong?

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#22 ChrnoTrigger
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Isn't microsoft doing the same thing as sega?

Dreamcast used a GD-ROM format that wasn't quite a CD and wasn't quite a DVD.

Is that what XBOX360 uses? Not quite DVD definitely not bluray? Or do I have it wrong?

ceruxx

The 360 uses DVD-9, which has the most storage capacity for a DVD.

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#23 AnnoyedDragon
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Not this disk drive capacity crap again...

Storage space is only 'one' aspect of what affects a game; the GPU, CPU and Ram has a much bigger impact on the overall game experience than the textures being slightly blurrier because of disk compression.

ID is having issues with disk capacity because they are using megatextures; it is not a common thing in games.

Despite what PS3 users would love you to think; disk capacity isn't the end all decider on game quality.

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#24 k0wing
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i dont even consider the Wii as being part of this war.Am a nintendo fan at heart i mean i grew up with their systems but thay have long since let me down as a core gamer but am always happy to see nintendo in the lead
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#25 EvilAshTwin
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Multiple discs. 6matt6

Exactly, if need be M$ will resort to multiple discs for their games.

You guys are forgetting one major fact, the whole reason why Blu-ray is storming the market is because Sony paid off the movie studios to stop using DvD's and go exclusive Blue-ray. That move burned alot of non-gamers as well as non PS3 owners. So while the PS3 may have been first on the gaming scene with Blue-ray, I seriously doubt it really gave them an edge over M$ and Nintendo. Not in the way DvD gave Sony the edge over Sega and Nintendo last generation. However this is all just my personal humble opinion.

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#26 mbrockway
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[QUOTE="ceruxx"]

Isn't microsoft doing the same thing as sega?

Dreamcast used a GD-ROM format that wasn't quite a CD and wasn't quite a DVD.

Is that what XBOX360 uses? Not quite DVD definitely not bluray? Or do I have it wrong?

ChrnoTrigger

The 360 uses DVD-9, which has the most storage capacity for a DVD.

Technically, MS requires 2gb of the space for various crap is Carmack is to be believed, so its down to like 7.5gb of space. The Rage engine with its megatextures is pretty much the only one that could be limited by DVD though. If the space is just being taken up by specific event sound effects and fmv's, then its not a problem to use multiple discs. As long as MS doesn't try to r*** them on the extra disc fees.

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#27 RickLemieux
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[QUOTE="RickLemieux"]In my opinion the 360 already won the war. Dreams-Visions

you need to define what war you're talking about, because Nintendo already crushed MS and Sony.

Crushed.

Read my post again. In my opinion 360 won because of games. Just like in my opinion Genesis, PSX, PS2 won the last couple of generations. I can't play sales! Fo me, the war is the games and the 360 has won that war for me!

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#28 PlagueMyGames
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no so far i'm playing awesome Games.
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#29 ukillwegrill
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Lol the trivial things you guys talk about amazes me.

Do you really think people outside of system wars care or even know about these things.

My friend who owns a PS3, still thinks they use DVD's.

No one really cares. System wars makes up a very small and "elite" part of the gaming public.

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#30 Ninja-Hippo
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One developer has spoken out about discs; and you need to take into consideration that this is only because they're using MegaTextures which are insane space-fillers.

It's really not an issue at all.