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#1 super600  Moderator
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We all know GTA4 was able to tie in review scores with SMG2 on GS and it beat both SMG games on Metacritc.Will GTA5 continue this trend or will be a poor GTA game compared to GTA4 in reviews.I don't care about review scores that much.This is just a question.

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#2 mario-galaxys
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Can these games ever compare from each other?
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#3 Eponique
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I didn't enjoy any of them :(

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#4 lbjkurono23
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Dunno they always find a way of making their games great. So I'm happy, though I do prefer the gta games. :o
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#5 mysticstryk
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GTA IV was complete garbage. San Andreas was the last good GTA. Having said this, I am really looking forward to GTA V.

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#6 YoshiYogurt
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GTA is the most overatted series of games ever. Both galaxy games wipe the floor with them.

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#7 super600  Moderator
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Can these games ever compare from each other? mario-galaxys

I comparing review scores.:P

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#8 tagyhag
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GTA 5 could have you needing to crap every 12 of the ingame hours and and reviewers would still call it the greatest game ever made, it's all about hype.
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This is the most bizarre comparison ever. And yes, GTA V could be incredible. It could beat out Mario's scores. Why? Because it's f*cking GTA. IV was a thorough disappointment, but V returns to San Andreas! SAN ANDREAS!
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GTA V will definitly be a better game, some scores may not reflect that, but it will still be true. Mario's level designs are amazing and the game is fun and all, but it's still going to be just another mario game, Rockstar makes more memorable games, maybe with some features that fall a little flat, but at the end of the day I can't wait to see where rockstar takes the story and gameplay. I already know what yhe next mario game will be like ( baring a few new suits, and maybe a couple new ways to interact with the environment).
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GTA 5 could have you needing to crap every 12 of the ingame hours and and reviewers would still call it the greatest game ever made, it's all about hype.tagyhag
The realism. :P
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#12 ChubbyGuy40
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Everyone knows that the SMG scores were earned while the GTA scores were bought.

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#13 super600  Moderator
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This is the most bizarre comparison ever. And yes, GTA V could be incredible. It could beat out Mario's scores. Why? Because it's f*cking GTA. IV was a thorough disappointment, but V returns to San Andreas! SAN ANDREAS!charizard1605

Lol!I felt bored so I made this weird comparision.

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#14 StrongDeadlift
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GTA 5 could have you needing to crap every 12 of the ingame hours and and reviewers would still call it the greatest game ever made, it's all about hype.tagyhag
This. I just bought the game a few days ago......

Everything about GTA4 is hot garbage. The dialogue so comically bad its physically painful to listen to, the "story"/writing is terrible, the gameplay is so underbaked/underdeveloped its not even funny (its actually worse than Saints Row, which in itself is an underbaked/underdeveloped game gameplaywise), and the graphics are some of the worst, most uninspired I have EVER seen on consoles.

Im so tired of PS3/360 graphics and everything looking like paper mache/cardboard. Animations, shooting mechanics, driving mechanics, the camera, etc...

If they make the game more like Red Dead Redemption, however, I WILL be hyped for it. I liked Red Dead Redemption, and L.A. Noire because they were different time periods and VERY underused settings in videogames so it was unique (and for this same reason I am hyped for AGENT). But how many times have we seen the GTA-esque setting in games? I feel like theGTA franchise is just there for fan service but if they can get the script writing up to the standards RDR and L.A. Noire set, Ill be good.

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Since its one of the biggest franchises on the planet with insane amounts of talent and money spent on its development, then it could. I don't expect anything less then a 94 on Metacritic to be honest, and that's kind of reaching the lower ends of what I expect (I expect around a 97 or so).

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#17 lbjkurono23
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I will tell you that GTA is more popular and will sell better and GTAV will probaply get a 10 here.TheGuardian03
A bet guaranteed to go wrong. :P

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#19 SPYDER0416
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[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"]

[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]I will tell you that GTA is more popular and will sell better and GTAV will probaply get a 10 here.TheGuardian03

A bet guaranteed to go wrong. :P

Which part? :P The 10/10 part?

A 10 is a rare thing, and a series managing to get a perfect 10 TWICE in one generation at these odds is almost unfathomable. Heck, GS has given other amazing games like Red Dead Redemption and Bioshock 9.0's, not even 9.5's, so a 10 isn't a given unless it is a flawless game.

Even then, the reviewer might still find something to criticize and knock off .5 for ("its too big!").

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I hope no one is expecting GTA V to have yetis and jetpacks just because of the setting.
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#22 PSWiiU
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Here are some interesting facts TC:

Metacritic
GTA IV (360):98
GTA IV (PS3):98
Mario Galaxy:97
Mario Glxy 2:97

Gamerankings
GTA IV (360):96.17%
GTA IV (PS3):97.01%
Mario Galaxy:97.46%
Mario Glxy 2:97.12%

Metacritic User Scores
GTA IV (360):7.9
GTA IV (PS3):7.5
Mario Galaxy:8.9
Mario Glxy 2:9.3

Gamespot User Scores
GTA IV (360):9.1
GTA IV (PS3):9.1
Mario Galaxy:9.2
Mario Glxy 2:9.0

Can you point me to where you saw that GTA crushed Mario in reviews please?

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#23 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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Everyone knows that the SMG scores were earned while the GTA scores were bought.

ChubbyGuy40

Nope I just think most critics disagreed with your pathetic statement

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#24 PSWiiU
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It's pretty apparent that the Mario Galaxies (which is even more impressive considering that their are 2 games of such high quality from the same franchise this gen) had both love from publications and the general gaming community, while GTA 4 certainly had the publications, but the gaming community's opinion was much more mixed.

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#25 super600  Moderator
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Here are some interesting facts TC:

Metacritic
GTA IV (360):98
GTA IV (PS3):98
Mario Galaxy:97
Mario Glxy 2:97

Gamerankings
GTA IV (360):96.17%
GTA IV (PS3):97.01%
Mario Galaxy:97.46%
Mario Glxy 2:97.12%

Metacritic User Scores
GTA IV (360):7.9
GTA IV (PS3):7.5
Mario Galaxy:8.9
Mario Glxy 2:9.3

Gamespot User Scores
GTA IV (360):9.1
GTA IV (PS3):9.1
Mario Galaxy:9.2
Mario Glxy 2:9.0

Can you point me to where you saw that GTA crushed Mario in reviews please?

PSWiiU

I was talking mostly about the MC score.:P

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#26 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Everyone knows that the SMG scores were earned while the GTA scores were bought.

OB-47

Nope I just think most critics disagreed with your pathetic statement

Not my fault critics will kiss ass and give high scores to anything Rockstar.

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#27 StrongDeadlift
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[QUOTE="OB-47"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Everyone knows that the SMG scores were earned while the GTA scores were bought.

ChubbyGuy40

Nope I just think most critics disagreed with your pathetic statement

Not my fault critics will kiss ass and give high scores to anything Rockstar.

Hey, Ill agree as much as the next man that GTA4 was hot garbage (and reviews were paid for) but Red Dead Redemption and L.A. Noire earned their scores. RDR is the best game this gen imo.
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#28 razgriz_101
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Everyone knows that the SMG scores were earned while the GTA scores were bought.

ChubbyGuy40

gta4 was a big jump for the series really and i doubt they were bought considering 3,VC and SA all scored really high across the board for being....good games.

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#29 ChubbyGuy40
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Hey, Ill agree as much as the next man that GTA4 was hot garbage (and reviews were paid for) but Red Dead Redemption and L.A. Noire earned their scores. RDR is the best game this gen imo. StrongDeadlift

I'll concede to RDR because I think western is boring as f*** so I won't argue against it for not being my thing, but LA Noire was steaming garbage. Started out good then got worse and worse as I played it.

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#30 drinkerofjuice
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GTA4 is the best game in the series, one of the best games this gen, and it deserved every bit of praise it received on release.

You all piss and moan about how franchises fail to evolve, yet bash GTA4 because it wasn't like San Andreas. Oh the irony...

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#31 MikeMoose
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This is kind of a weird comparison.

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#32 SuperFlakeman
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But did GTA4 win GOTY?

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#33 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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But did GTA4 win GOTY?

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Nah, MGS4 stole the thunder
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#34 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="OB-47"]

Nope I just think most critics disagreed with your pathetic statement

StrongDeadlift

Not my fault critics will kiss ass and give high scores to anything Rockstar.

Hey, Ill agree as much as the next man that GTA4 was hot garbage (and reviews were paid for) but Red Dead Redemption and L.A. Noire earned their scores. RDR is the best game this gen imo.

RDR suffers from the same sh1t as GTA 4.

LA Noire is just straight terrible.

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#35 UnrealLegend
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Every time I see people say GTA IV's scores were bought, I die a little inside.

The game deserved the scores, and it is the best in the series. It's better than RDR (Although not by much) and much, much better than LA Noire could ever hope to be.

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#36 g0ddyX
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Well.. GTA is better than Super Mario Galaxy in a lot of aspects.

Like in Sound, Music, Graphics, Motion, Tech, Gameplay, Online ...
Basically, all the things that make a game, a game.
Well if you look at it that way, it makes SMG look like childsplay.

Afterall, the hardware is limited. GTA4 + mods = 10.

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#37 Blaz3_fox
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I think a far more relevant question will be "Will game reviewing sites be able to ignore the Hype-icane that will follow GTA V?" It was a welcome realisation when people started to get over the hype and realise that GTA IV was just another GTA with not that much special about it. It's like Skyrim nowadays, how people have realised that it really wasn't that great a game and was more hype than anything.

Well.. GTA is better than Super Mario Galaxy in a lot of aspects.

Like in Sound, Music, Graphics, Motion, Tech, Gameplay, Online ...
Basically, all the things that make a game, a game.
Well if you look at it that way, it makes SMG look like childsplay.

Afterall, the hardware is limited. GTA4 + mods = 10.

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I can make assumptions about games without ever playing them too. For example, did you know that Demon's souls is utter trash? And that Call of duty Modern rehash 3 was equally as terrible? Oh and let's not forget about that movie gear solid 4 either.
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#38 Messiahbolical-
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If GTAV is this gen's San Andreas(Strange new game mechanics (like Gang Wars and Obesity for instance), HUGE city with a vast variety of locations, unique and dramatic storyline, etc) it should get crazy high scores. I would like there to be a bigger focus on exploration, with more buildings that you can go inside, and lots of side quests and minigames you can do.

I also would like it if they bade a Bully 2, or something similar. Maybe a more adult oriented, College version of Bully for us adults.

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the last gta i enjoyed was vice city. mario galaxy is way more fun than gta4

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#40 Messiahbolical-
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the last gta i enjoyed was vice city. mario galaxy is way more fun than gta4

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#41 campzor
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i dont think gta4 deserves its 10 score... so who knows
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#42 PSWiiU
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Well.. GTA is better than Super Mario Galaxy in a lot of aspects.

Like in Sound, Music, Graphics, Motion, Tech, Gameplay, Online ...
Basically, all the things that make a game, a game.
Well if you look at it that way, it makes SMG look like childsplay.

g0ddyX

Sound = GTA IV
Music = Mario Galaxy
Graphics = GTA IV (by default, Galaxy would have won easily if on an HD console)
Motion = ???
Tech = ???
Gameplay = Mario Galaxy
Online = GTA IV

This is opinion of course. But you're an idiot.

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#43 Chutebox
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I didn't enjoy any of them :(

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This right here. Both games were boring has hell for me... Guess I'll answer the actual question though....um, GTA5 will score higher again.
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#44 freedomfreak
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I don't know.

I sure hope GTAV is as good as IV,or even better.

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#45 WiiCubeM1
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Those 2 aren't even in the same category.

Ones a linear platform game full of magic and plumbers.

The other's a sandbox shoot-em-up where the goal is to run over as many people as possible for no god damn reason other than it's fun.

Who cares if GTA beats it in reviews if the games appeal to two different types of gamers.

Also, last time I checked, a tie and 98 opposed to 97 on both games (which both beat it in user reviews) doesn't equal crushing.

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#46 kabphillie
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Who cares? Two different genres, and two audiences with small overlap.

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#47 princeofshapeir
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GTA is the most overatted series of games ever. Both galaxy games wipe the floor with them.

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nope and GTA IV is the highest-rated game of all time on Metacritic. haters gonna hate.
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Mario and Grand Theft Auto, those old video game rivals...

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#49 WiiCubeM1
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[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"]

GTA is the most overatted series of games ever. Both galaxy games wipe the floor with them.

princeofshapeir

nope and GTA IV is the highest-rated game of all time on Metacritic. haters gonna hate.

It beat both Galaxy games by one point, and is losing to them in user reviews.

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#50 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"]

GTA is the most overatted series of games ever. Both galaxy games wipe the floor with them.

WiiCubeM1

nope and GTA IV is the highest-rated game of all time on Metacritic. haters gonna hate.

It beat both Galaxy games by one point, and is losing to them in user reviews.

implying user reviews matter for anything