Will the Wii-U as a next gen system produce such visuals?

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#1 Mozelleple112
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Crysis modded:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w2thKPmpz0&feature=related

Crysis photoreal II:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lnqXbj_6Qw&feature=related

Crysis realism:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaY8N5anyzw&feature=related

these graphics can be run with 2007 PC hardware (3 way 8800 Ultra) @ 1080p and you can definitely run it in 2560x1600 with 2009 tech (4 way HD 5870) and 2010 hardware such as 4 way GTX 580 has no problem running that kind of graphics in 7860x1600 (3 way 1600p monitors)

PS3 and 360 both smashed PC exclusives such as Half Life 2, Doom and Far Cry. Will the Wii-U (2012 hardware) do the same?

Edit: the question applies to PS4 / Kinect 2 as well

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#2 GunSmith1_basic
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Nintendo should aim for those kind of visuals considering it is that old already
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#3 Gamingclone
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Idk, but for some reason that picture you chosed simply is not impressive to me.

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#4 ProtossX
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im getting wii-u day one buy for me how much is it gonna be?

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#5 alexLmx6
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Nintendo would be dumb to make another underpowered system, since the Wii U isn't going to have the same gimmick sales they got with the Wii. There actually have to be games to play on it this time.

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#6 Riverwolf007
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i'm sure it will look good but i just don't care about those ancient franchises that i was sick of around the time the ps1 came out.

the tablet puts me off too. that thing looks like a terrible idea.

i'm sure there will be a few cool uses but if i wanted something in my lap crying for attention and screaming until i looked away from the tv at it i would have had children.

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Wii:U is only going to be 'slightly better' than the 360 and PS3. And theyre 6 yr old consoles.

And they can't pump out visuals nowhere like that.
The PS4 and Next Xbox might.

Kind of obvious some wii fans won't like these graphics seeing as they prefer cartoon games over realism.

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#8 rasengan2552
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Crysis can do better than that ... draw distance is horrible.

its get worse the farther you look ahead.

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#9 rasengan2552
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WiiU will not be noticeably better than the PS3/360 at first glance. You'll probably need to compare visuals sid by side to notice a difference.

Nintendo will release another technically obselete console yet again.

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#10 Vambran
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Im thinking The Wii-U will be like a Dreamcast competing with a PS2 and XBOX. Could probally handle most first wave games of next gen. After that might have to get some downgraded ports. ( Think call of duty on the Wii )

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Wii U is only going to be 'slightly better' than the 360 and PS3g0ddyX
Can I borrow your Wii U when you're done with it? please
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#12 Litchie
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I'm 98% sure that wont happen.
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#13 nameless12345
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Here's what it can do in real-time:

Not the best picture quality but you get the idea.

Overall I think the graphics won't sell it but it'll be a quite big jump from the Wii.

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[QUOTE="g0ddyX"]Wii U is only going to be 'slightly better' than the 360 and PS3dotWithShoes
Can I borrow your Wii U when you're done with it? please

I have to say the same thing.

All the developers that have devkits are very impressed with the hardware so far.

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#15 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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I don't see why not. I think Nintendo is rethinking the tech of the wiiu, which is why it is going to be re-unveiled. Graphics are going to sell the next set of consoles, so it is important that the visuals aren't skimped.

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#16 Bread_or_Decide
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I have a feeling it's going to look as good as PS3 games and that's about it. Nintendo is muy cheapo when it comes to graphics as of late. I don't see them reverting back to the N64/Gamecube days when they cared about what was under the hood of their consoles.

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#17 Bread_or_Decide
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Here's what it can do in real-time:

Not the best picture quality but you get the idea.

Overall I think the graphics won't sell it but it'll be a quite big jump from the Wii.

nameless12345

This bodes well for all of the bird simulator games I'm expecting at launch.

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#18 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

Here's what it can do in real-time:

Not the best picture quality but you get the idea.

Overall I think the graphics won't sell it but it'll be a quite big jump from the Wii.

Bread_or_Decide

This bodes well for all of the bird simulator games I'm expecting at launch.

Reminds me of shogun II.

Minus the thousands of soldiers I mean.

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#19 GunSmith1_basic
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didn't Reggie say the WiiU would be expensive? It's pretty much guaranteed to be better than the ps3 and 360 by a fair margin
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#20 Dr_Corndog
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I'm more concerned with things like enemy AI, the number of characters and effects onscreen, and the size of the environments than graphics, as well as how well Nintendo implements online play with the Wii U.

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#21 HaloinventedFPS
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Crysis modded:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w2thKPmpz0&feature=related

Crysis photoreal II:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lnqXbj_6Qw&feature=related

Crysis realism:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaY8N5anyzw&feature=related

these graphics can be run with 2007 PC hardware (3 way 8800 Ultra) @ 1080p and you can definitely run it in 2560x1600 with 2009 tech (4 way HD 5870) and 2010 hardware such as 4 way GTX 580 has no problem running that kind of graphics in 7860x1600 (3 way 1600p monitors)

PS3 and 360 both smashed PC exclusives such as Half Life 2, Doom and Far Cry. Will the Wii-U (2012 hardware) do the same?

Edit: the question applies to PS4 / Kinect 2 as well

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>PS3 and 360 both smashed PC exclusives such as Half Life 2, Doom 3

i allready proved that wrong

360/PS3 didnt have anything near FEAR 1 level at launch and for about 2 years

in 2007 when 360/PS3 started to get decent graphics, like Bad company 1, we allready had Crysis

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#22 APiranhaAteMyVa
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I think multiplats will be even more common than this gen, even though most games coming out currently are multiplat I think next gen despite a few Japanese franchises I think all games will be multiplat on consoles/PC. If that is the case, Nintendo MUST compete tech wise, if not they will be left in the dust and will need to rely on first party titles. The Wii could have games cheaply made, so it got a few third party exclusives, with the WiiU being more powerful and requiring larger dev budgets, if it doesn't compete I think they will struggle to get any exclusives putting it in a worse position than the Wii.
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#23 nini200
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Wii:U is only going to be 'slightly better' than the 360 and PS3. And theyre 6 yr old consoles.

And they can't pump out visuals nowhere like that.
The PS4 and Next Xbox might.

Kind of obvious some wii fans won't like these graphics seeing as they prefer cartoon games over realism.

g0ddyX

I think you mean they prefer games that are actually good over games that just look good.

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PS3 and 360 both smashed PC exclusives such as Half Life 2, Doom 3HaloinventedFPS

I can't believe you're bragging about that.:lol:

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#25 APiranhaAteMyVa
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PS3 and 360 both smashed PC exclusives such as Half Life 2, Doom 3

i allready proved that wrong

360/PS3 didnt have anything near FEAR 1 level at launch and for about 2 years

in 2007 when 360/PS3 started to get decent graphics, like Bad company 1, we allready had Crysis

HaloinventedFPS

When the 360 launched it was pretty competitive tech wise, you can't really say PC got Crysis, because by that time the hardware had improved in PC's and even high end 2007 cards like the 8800gtx struggled with Crysis when trying to max it.

The 360 was pretty good back in 2005/6, and devs are still managing to get most games on the 360/PS3 with some compromises.

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[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]PS3 and 360 both smashed PC exclusives such as Half Life 2, Doom 3rasengan2552

I can't believe you're bragging about that.:lol:

He wasn't bragging, he claims those games look better than anything on HD twins :?
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#27 Mozelleple112
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Idk, but for some reason that picture you chosed simply is not impressive to me.

Gamingclone

What?? Not sure if serious... That screenshot is probably the most graphically impressive picture in video gaming.

The scope, the vegetation, the water, the lighting etc.. I don't have a link, but if you watched a video of that mod you'll see all vegatation is completely dynamic as with the shadows and lighting and move closer up to that soldier and you'll see how realistic he looks as well.

And then there's the water...

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#28 tjricardo089
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I lost the interest on Wii-U when I saw the controller.. looks too big, I don't know.

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#29 meetroid8
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Nintendo would be dumb to make another underpowered system, since the Wii U isn't going to have the same gimmick sales they got with the Wii. There actually have to be games to play on it this time.

alexLmx6
It would be dumb to make an over powered and over priced system. The low price of Wii was a key factor in it's success.
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#30 Banjo_Kongfooie
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Not really and the controller is terrible.
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#31 rasengan2552
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[QUOTE="rasengan2552"]

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]PS3 and 360 both smashed PC exclusives such as Half Life 2, Doom 3Mozelleple112

I can't believe you're bragging about that.:lol:

He wasn't bragging, he claims those games look better than anything on HD twins :?

oh my ...
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#32 Mr_BillGates
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Its main audience is kids, so it'll be decent enough to keep the price low.

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#33 Banjo_Kongfooie
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Its main audience is kids, so it'll be decent enough to keep the price low.

Mr_BillGates

Kids will not want to play with that monstrous controller. It looks like a chore to wield let alone game.

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#34 loosingENDS
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If the engine is that good i dont see why not

Crytek is making xbox 360 exlusives now though and also i am more interested to see how Ryse 2 will look on xbox 720 in Cryengine 4 running maxed

WiiU is not about graphics and since it is so rushed will have visuals multiple generations behind xbox 720

Also to pack a huge screen in the box, hardware will probabyl have to be basic in specs, otherwise the system would cost 1000$

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#35 dracolich55
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LOL @ Kinect 2
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[QUOTE="alexLmx6"]

Nintendo would be dumb to make another underpowered system, since the Wii U isn't going to have the same gimmick sales they got with the Wii. There actually have to be games to play on it this time.

meetroid8

It would be dumb to make an over powered and over priced system. The low price of Wii was a key factor in it's success.

Nintendo was dumb to release such an underpowered system with such a small "power" leap over the gamecube, but they got away with it because the Wii became a fad among casuals - which is something that is NEVER gauranteed. We can chalk it up to brilliant marketing, or sheer luck. But I don't think they can get away with that strategy again in a home console, at least they shouldn't COUNT on it repeating itself.

Sony was dumb for launching their system at $699 and *STILL* losing money on each unit sold. What's worse was that even with the insanely high price point, the GPU wasn't even that powerful and it was lacking overall ram. At least it got blu-ray out the door, and being a movie fan I'm happy enough about that. The games aren't bad either, but of course the hardware is not what it could/should have been for being $699 at launch.

Whoever we are talking about next gen, the aim should be to have a system priced in the $299-399 range, and make the system as powerful as possible but still fitting in the price range without taking anything more than a slight unit loss at launch (moving towards profit within a year or two at max). Sony took too much of a loss on the PS3, and Nintendo was too intent on making their system "cheap" from day 1. Next gen they need to find somewhere in the middle. I can tell you I'm not happy that Nintendo seems to be wasting alot of resources on the touch screen, I hope that doesn't take away from the actual hardware...

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#37 sakura_Ex
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Lol@calling the next Xbox " Kinect 2 ":lol::cry:

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#38 sakura_Ex
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LOL @ Kinect 2dracolich55
I see I'm not the only one who noticed that,lol.
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[QUOTE="dracolich55"]LOL @ Kinect 2sakura_Ex
I see I'm not the only one who noticed that,lol.

Indeed xD
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#40 GotNugz
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Wii u should be able to easily run those visuals @720p 60 frames. Think of what they are as to do on the ancient he twins and if the wii u is 5-10x faster than current gen then I see no problem with that. As for how the X720/PS4 would run games I expect them both to look much better than wii u games so something like Samaritan demo 1080p @30 frames
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[QUOTE="rasengan2552"]

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]PS3 and 360 both smashed PC exclusives such as Half Life 2, Doom 3Mozelleple112

I can't believe you're bragging about that.:lol:

He wasn't bragging, he claims those games look better than anything on HD twins :?

i never said HL2 or Doom 3 look better than the 2 best looking games on console in 2011

but they look close

and you said 360/PS3 both "smashed" HL2 and Doom 3, when the fact is, it took them 6 years to just be a little bit better than 2 PC games from 2004

meanwhile, Crysis is now 5 years old and still destroys anything on console

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#42 dotWithShoes
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If the engine is that good i dont see why not

Crytek is making xbox 360 exlusives now though and also i am more interested to see how Ryse 2 will look on xbox 720 in Cryengine 4 running maxed

WiiU is not about graphics and since it is so rushed will have visuals multiple generations behind xbox 720

Also to pack a huge screen in the box, hardware will probabyl have to be basic in specs, otherwise the system would cost 1000$

loosingENDS
The Wii U was rushed? So I guess 5-6 years is no longer a good cycle for hardware? 5 years is rushed hardware?
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#43 Big_Pecks
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

If the engine is that good i dont see why not

Crytek is making xbox 360 exlusives now though and also i am more interested to see how Ryse 2 will look on xbox 720 in Cryengine 4 running maxed

WiiU is not about graphics and since it is so rushed will have visuals multiple generations behind xbox 720

Also to pack a huge screen in the box, hardware will probabyl have to be basic in specs, otherwise the system would cost 1000$

dotWithShoes

The Wii U was rushed? So I guess 5-6 years is no longer a good cycle for hardware? 5 years is rushed hardware?



Nintendo haters can't come up with competent arguments.

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#44 Omzzz
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Not really and the controller is terrible.Banjo_Kongfooie
yeah everyone knows you think the controller sucks. now shutup

this thread is about the graphics, which i think would be a good step up from the Wii. Im assuming It won't be a huge jump from the 360/PS3 capabilities. But whatever, graphics are the last of my worries.

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#45 GunSmith1_basic
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[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]Not really and the controller is terrible.Omzzz

yeah everyone knows you think the controller sucks. now shutup

this thread is about the graphics, which i think would be a good step up from the Wii. Im assuming It won't be a huge jump from the 360/PS3 capabilities. But whatever, graphics are the last of my worries.

Graphics move at the forefront of my worries when the tech gap keeps the best multiplats off the system

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#46 mitu123
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Those are some nice graphics.

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#47 pc-ps360
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even before the wiiu release and cows are in damage control. face it ps3 lost this gen

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#48 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

If the engine is that good i dont see why not

Crytek is making xbox 360 exlusives now though and also i am more interested to see how Ryse 2 will look on xbox 720 in Cryengine 4 running maxed

WiiU is not about graphics and since it is so rushed will have visuals multiple generations behind xbox 720

Also to pack a huge screen in the box, hardware will probabyl have to be basic in specs, otherwise the system would cost 1000$

dotWithShoes

The Wii U was rushed? So I guess 5-6 years is no longer a good cycle for hardware? 5 years is rushed hardware?

Of course it is rushed, it released a whole year (or more in some regions) after xbox 360 and WiiU releases 2-3 years before xbox 720

So, it is 3-4 years rushed

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#49 ronvalencia
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LOL @ Kinect 2dracolich55
Kinect For Wndows has revised Kinect hardware.
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[QUOTE="g0ddyX"]Wii U is only going to be 'slightly better' than the 360 and PS3dotWithShoes
Can I borrow your Wii U when you're done with it? please



Afraid not, my little brother and uncles baby girl will be playing on it.