Will there ever be a game where u get to play the germans in ww2?

in the history of games there has only been a meager few which have allowed you to play the germans in a full single player campaign are there anymore out there it would be so much better for a change on perspective?

1) Genocide

2) They Lost

3) Allies won

4) A game is not as fun when you know you're gonna loose

5) Genocide

6) Hitler was gay

7) Genocide 

the same reson why there is no RST where you play as Andrew Jackson. However it would be nice, a different perspective never hurt anyone. I mean you could kill anything in GTA.muscleserge

Says teh guy with teh hammer and sickle as his avatar. Pinko commie scum!!! 

the same reson why there is no RST where you play as Andrew Jackson. However it would be nice, a different perspective never hurt anyone. I mean you could kill anything in GTA.muscleserge

Yea but you didnt allow gamers to make light of a tragic time period in history. 

There won't for the same reason why there aren't any games where you play as a child molester.88Ghost89

Comparing German's to child molesters....

Wow prepare to get your ass chewed.

1) Genocide

2) They Lost

3) Allies won

4) A game is not as fun when you know you're gonna loose

5) Genocide

6) Hitler was gay

7) Genocide 

gp19

Try to find the game called Mortyr. You played as a German...

Devs seem to have some kind of adverse feelings to putting players in the shoes of the Germans for some reason. It was not the German army that committed the war crimes, it was the SS, Gestapo and Hitler The German army fought for their country just like the Brits, Americans, Canadians, Russians, etc. This being an extremely common misconception about WWII.
foxhound_fox

Yes but many Germans were FORCED into service or mislead through propoganda.  Were are not being forced or mislead, we know exactly what happened and what the soldiers were mislead to fight for which is why playing a game where you conciously choose that side knowing what their motivation and goals were is a horrid idea and will just give video games and video gamers a worse reputation and give Senetors more fuel for them to censor games.

it's kind of like if they made a game where you're a serial killer but they wouldn't use a real serial killer.  they don't want to glorify the acts of the real person. just like they don't want to glorify the acts of the Germans in WWII.

[QUOTE="gp19"]

1) Genocide

2) They Lost

3) Allies won

4) A game is not as fun when you know you're gonna loose

5) Genocide

6) Hitler was gay

7) Genocide 

muscleserge

Are you joking, there are good motivations for war and bad ones, the German generals and dictator had horrid goals, the allied forces had better goals.

[QUOTE="88Ghost89"]There won't for the same reason why there aren't any games where you play as a child molester.callmewaffle

Comparing German's to child molesters....

Wow prepare to get your ass chewed.

I didn't compare them, I meant that they share the same reason why they don't have games like that...

I'm german BTW...

There won't for the same reason why there aren't any games where you play as a child molester.88Ghost89

2) They Lost

4) A game is not as fun when you know you're gonna loose

gp19

so what was with all the vietnam games where you played as the US? they lost. although having never played any of them i have no idea how many mentions of baby killing and napalm death're mentioned in them :|

[QUOTE="88Ghost89"]There won't for the same reason why there aren't any games where you play as a child molester.Mikazukinoyaiba

Wolfenstiend Enemy Territory, Team B is german, I guess that counts xD

 Dont insult Germans, Hitler yes, but the nationallity was being opressed, and anyways its a game, play germans but leave the Hitler/Genocide out of it and whats wrong with that? 

Yes but many Germans were FORCED into service or mislead through propoganda. Were are not being forced or mislead, we know exactly what happened and what the soldiers were mislead to fight for which is why playing a game where you conciously choose that side knowing what their motivation and goals were is a horrid idea and will just give video games and video gamers a worse reputation and give Senetors more fuel for them to censor games.Javy03

in the history of games there has only been a meager few which have allowed you to play the germans in a full single player campaign are there anymore out there it would be so much better for a change on perspective?

mouldy133

[QUOTE="88Ghost89"]There won't for the same reason why there aren't any games where you play as a child molester.Mikazukinoyaiba

[QUOTE="88Ghost89"]There won't for the same reason why there aren't any games where you play as a child molester.Mikazukinoyaiba

I know, but devs won't make a game where your one the bad guy's side (I know about GTA and other games), but this is based on real life. There are just certain things they just can't do because it wouldn't be right. Look at all the crap that games get when you do brutal and evil things, imagine what the press would do if they saw a game where you played as the germans. It wont happen because it's taboo. I know only leaders were evil, and most soldiers were forced to do what they did. Unless the game was you trying to escape those leaders and  try and get away, then I understand. But the way the TC said it, it kindof makes me think as you playing as the actual badguys.

if got the chance to play as rommel i would feel weird he was a respected militar , and a incredible strategist Yuri_Volte

Use the Wiimote to control instruments to... hurt the evil people... enemies of the Aryan race.

Ultimately, N would get sued the hell out of them which works all in my favour.

[QUOTE="Javy03"]Yes but many Germans were FORCED into service or mislead through propoganda. Were are not being forced or mislead, we know exactly what happened and what the soldiers were mislead to fight for which is why playing a game where you conciously choose that side knowing what their motivation and goals were is a horrid idea and will just give video games and video gamers a worse reputation and give Senetors more fuel for them to censor games.foxhound_fox

You overestimate what people learn from video games.  If people wanna know the horrors of war they definatly will not learn it from a video game where they are rewarded for killing people.  You will never be shown the horrors of war because in order to do that they will have to make moments that gamers wanna turn their head or tear up or be shocked with disgust, yet video games do the opposite, no matter how gross, violent or wrong the act you commit on a video game is you can detatch yourself from the moment because you know they arent real people and then after your massacre you get to move on to the next level.

War type video games is entertainment and not education.  The fact that there are people who want to "experience" what it would be like to be a Nazi working for their goal in a video game is cause for concern.....

There won't for the same reason why there aren't any games where you play as a child molester.88Ghost89

thats nasty

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Javy03"]Yes but many Germans were FORCED into service or mislead through propoganda. Were are not being forced or mislead, we know exactly what happened and what the soldiers were mislead to fight for which is why playing a game where you conciously choose that side knowing what their motivation and goals were is a horrid idea and will just give video games and video gamers a worse reputation and give Senetors more fuel for them to censor games.Javy03

You overestimate what people learn from video games.  If people wanna know the horrors of war they definatly will not learn it from a video game where they are rewarded for killing people.  You will never be shown the horrors of war because in order to do that they will have to make moments that gamers wanna turn their head or tear up or be shocked with disgust, yet video games do the opposite, no matter how gross, violent or wrong the act you commit on a video game is you can detatch yourself from the moment because you know they arent real people and then after your massacre you get to move on to the next level.

War type video games is entertainment and not education.  The fact that there are people who want to "experience" what it would be like to be a Nazi working for their goal in a video game is cause for concern.....

thankyou for your views

i dont think (american companies at least) are gonna make a game where you kill Allied soldiers in a FPS...

RTS... GO FOR IT!!!

You overestimate what people learn from video games. If people wanna know the horrors of war they definatly will not learn it from a video game where they are rewarded for killing people. You will never be shown the horrors of war because in order to do that they will have to make moments that gamers wanna turn their head or tear up or be shocked with disgust, yet video games do the opposite, no matter how gross, violent or wrong the act you commit on a video game is you can detatch yourself from the moment because you know they arent real people and then after your massacre you get to move on to the next level.

War type video games is entertainment and not education. The fact that there are people who want to "experience" what it would be like to be a Nazi working for their goal in a video game is cause for concern.....

Javy03

[QUOTE="Javy03"]You overestimate what people learn from video games. If people wanna know the horrors of war they definatly will not learn it from a video game where they are rewarded for killing people. You will never be shown the horrors of war because in order to do that they will have to make moments that gamers wanna turn their head or tear up or be shocked with disgust, yet video games do the opposite, no matter how gross, violent or wrong the act you commit on a video game is you can detatch yourself from the moment because you know they arent real people and then after your massacre you get to move on to the next level.

War type video games is entertainment and not education. The fact that there are people who want to "experience" what it would be like to be a Nazi working for their goal in a video game is cause for concern.....

foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="Javy03"]You overestimate what people learn from video games. If people wanna know the horrors of war they definatly will not learn it from a video game where they are rewarded for killing people. You will never be shown the horrors of war because in order to do that they will have to make moments that gamers wanna turn their head or tear up or be shocked with disgust, yet video games do the opposite, no matter how gross, violent or wrong the act you commit on a video game is you can detatch yourself from the moment because you know they arent real people and then after your massacre you get to move on to the next level.

War type video games is entertainment and not education. The fact that there are people who want to "experience" what it would be like to be a Nazi working for their goal in a video game is cause for concern.....

foxhound_fox

Again a video game that rewards you for killing people is far from a good idea for education.  You seem to hunger for what it was like as a soldier killing another soldier.  It really wasnt that different but the problem is your a soldier fighting for a different cause.  You see the gamer wouldnt learn anything new because they are a soldier fighter other soldiers in different areas.  Hardly a new experience but the idea that the gamer would play as a figure that forced to or not helped cut off millions of peoples family trees and has affected many families to this day is a reckless idea.

YOu wanna know what it TRULY was like to be on the other side, there are tons of books, movies and documentaries that put people in the other sides shoes and PROPERLY educates the viewer as opposed to reward the player on that side of the war while trying to maintain the gamers attention with violence.

Look at how well the Civil War History Channel game is doing.....not well....why because gamers dont play FPS to learn, they play to FRAG.

[QUOTE="gp19"]

2) They Lost

4) A game is not as fun when you know you're gonna loose

dreamachine

so what was with all the vietnam games where you played as the US? they lost. although having never played any of them i have no idea how many mentions of baby killing and napalm death're mentioned in them :|

:cry:

[QUOTE="dreamachine"][QUOTE="gp19"]

2) They Lost

4) A game is not as fun when you know you're gonna loose

Fruity_Fantasy

so what was with all the vietnam games where you played as the US? they lost. although having never played any of them i have no idea how many mentions of baby killing and napalm death're mentioned in them :|

:cry:

:| Way to go. Mocking atrocities commited in war, when it happens to you, you want the whole world to stay silent and remember and yet you oh so easily dismiss your own iniquities. Hypocrites.

1) Genocide

2) They Lost

3) Allies won

4) A game is not as fun when you know you're gonna loose

5) Genocide

6) Hitler was gay

7) Genocide

gp19

Like a poster said this could so easily be applied to the US in Vietnam and yet you still get Vietnam games.

1) Genocide

2) They lost

3) The Communists won

4) A game is not as fun when you know you're gonna loose.

5) Genocide

6) Nixon was gay

7) Genocide.

[QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"][QUOTE="dreamachine"][QUOTE="gp19"]

2) They Lost

4) A game is not as fun when you know you're gonna loose

Hoobinator

so what was with all the vietnam games where you played as the US? they lost. although having never played any of them i have no idea how many mentions of baby killing and napalm death're mentioned in them :|

:cry:

:| Way to go. Mocking atrocities commited in war, when it happens to you, you want the whole world to stay silent and remember and yet you oh so easily dismiss your own iniquities. Hypocrites.

I think America did good in Vietnam since we killed more of them than they killed of us

[QUOTE="Hoobinator"][QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"][QUOTE="dreamachine"][QUOTE="gp19"]

2) They Lost

4) A game is not as fun when you know you're gonna loose

Fruity_Fantasy

so what was with all the vietnam games where you played as the US? they lost. although having never played any of them i have no idea how many mentions of baby killing and napalm death're mentioned in them :|

:cry:

:| Way to go. Mocking atrocities commited in war, when it happens to you, you want the whole world to stay silent and remember and yet you oh so easily dismiss your own iniquities. Hypocrites.

I think America did good in Vietnam since we killed more of them than they killed of us

But you lost badly, committed a **** load of atrocities whilst you were there. But obviously the american thinking must be "if we kill more of them than they do of us.... we kind of win". Must be why you have so many shootings in the US....

I think America did good in Vietnam since we killed more of them than they killed of us

Fruity_Fantasy

If that's what counts than Germany would have been victorious against Russia in World War Two.

How many of the enemy are killed does not mean a damn thing in the long run.

[QUOTE="Hoobinator"][QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"][QUOTE="dreamachine"][QUOTE="gp19"]

2) They Lost

4) A game is not as fun when you know you're gonna loose

Fruity_Fantasy

so what was with all the vietnam games where you played as the US? they lost. although having never played any of them i have no idea how many mentions of baby killing and napalm death're mentioned in them :|

:cry:

:| Way to go. Mocking atrocities commited in war, when it happens to you, you want the whole world to stay silent and remember and yet you oh so easily dismiss your own iniquities. Hypocrites.

I think America did good in Vietnam since we killed more of them than they killed of us

[QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"][QUOTE="Hoobinator"][QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"][QUOTE="dreamachine"][QUOTE="gp19"]

2) They Lost

4) A game is not as fun when you know you're gonna loose

Hoobinator

so what was with all the vietnam games where you played as the US? they lost. although having never played any of them i have no idea how many mentions of baby killing and napalm death're mentioned in them :|

:cry:

:| Way to go. Mocking atrocities commited in war, when it happens to you, you want the whole world to stay silent and remember and yet you oh so easily dismiss your own iniquities. Hypocrites.

I think America did good in Vietnam since we killed more of them than they killed of us

But you lost badly, committed a **** load of atrocities whilst you were there. But obviously the american thinking must be "if we kill more of them than they do of us.... we kind of win". Must be why you have so many shootings in the US....

We lost only 58,000 and they lost 2.5 million, so yeah American won that one. As far as shootings in the U.S. maybe it's cause we got so many people from other places around the world moving here. We have to deal with people all over the world that want the great American dream , people even from where you live, wherever that is - I don't care!

I'm sick of people like you talking smack about American but kissing the Japanese on the bottom cause they give you games. Yet in Japan racism isn't illegal nor is treating women like dog crap. 

I wish you people from other places around the world would get your big noses out of America's business and worry about your own backyard. 

[QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"][QUOTE="Hoobinator"][QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"][QUOTE="dreamachine"][QUOTE="gp19"]

2) They Lost

4) A game is not as fun when you know you're gonna loose

Panzer_Zwei

so what was with all the vietnam games where you played as the US? they lost. although having never played any of them i have no idea how many mentions of baby killing and napalm death're mentioned in them :|

:cry:

:| Way to go. Mocking atrocities commited in war, when it happens to you, you want the whole world to stay silent and remember and yet you oh so easily dismiss your own iniquities. Hypocrites.

I think America did good in Vietnam since we killed more of them than they killed of us

Human life is about numbers, always has been always will be.

[QUOTE="Hoobinator"][QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"][QUOTE="Hoobinator"][QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"][QUOTE="dreamachine"][QUOTE="gp19"]

2) They Lost

4) A game is not as fun when you know you're gonna loose

Fruity_Fantasy

so what was with all the vietnam games where you played as the US? they lost. although having never played any of them i have no idea how many mentions of baby killing and napalm death're mentioned in them :|

:cry:

:| Way to go. Mocking atrocities commited in war, when it happens to you, you want the whole world to stay silent and remember and yet you oh so easily dismiss your own iniquities. Hypocrites.

I think America did good in Vietnam since we killed more of them than they killed of us

But you lost badly, committed a **** load of atrocities whilst you were there. But obviously the american thinking must be "if we kill more of them than they do of us.... we kind of win". Must be why you have so many shootings in the US....

We lost only 58,000 and they lost 2.5 million, so yeah American won that one. As far as shootings in the U.S. maybe it's cause we got so many people from other place's around the world moving here. We have to deal with people all over the world that want the great American dream , people even from where you live, wherever that is - I don't care!

I'm sick of people like you talking smack about American but kissing the Japanese on the bottom cause they give you games. Yet in Japan racism isn't illegal nor is treating women like dog crap.

I wish you people from other places around the world would get your big noses out of America's business and worry about your own backyard.

OK. Looks like by your logic Germany won WW2. :|

And I don't kiss no ones ass, and I have a 360. :|

And americans never shoot fellow americans, blame it all on the foreigners., I suppose you want america to be a "pure land" am I right ;).

[QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"][QUOTE="Hoobinator"][QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"][QUOTE="Hoobinator"][QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"][QUOTE="dreamachine"][QUOTE="gp19"]

2) They Lost

4) A game is not as fun when you know you're gonna loose

Hoobinator

so what was with all the vietnam games where you played as the US? they lost. although having never played any of them i have no idea how many mentions of baby killing and napalm death're mentioned in them :|

:cry:

:| Way to go. Mocking atrocities commited in war, when it happens to you, you want the whole world to stay silent and remember and yet you oh so easily dismiss your own iniquities. Hypocrites.

I think America did good in Vietnam since we killed more of them than they killed of us

But you lost badly, committed a **** load of atrocities whilst you were there. But obviously the american thinking must be "if we kill more of them than they do of us.... we kind of win". Must be why you have so many shootings in the US....

We lost only 58,000 and they lost 2.5 million, so yeah American won that one. As far as shootings in the U.S. maybe it's cause we got so many people from other place's around the world moving here. We have to deal with people all over the world that want the great American dream , people even from where you live, wherever that is - I don't care!

I'm sick of people like you talking smack about American but kissing the Japanese on the bottom cause they give you games. Yet in Japan racism isn't illegal nor is treating women like dog crap.

I wish you people from other places around the world would get your big noses out of America's business and worry about your own backyard.

OK. Looks like by your logic Germany won WW2. :|

And I don't kiss no ones ass, and I have a 360. :|

And americans never shoot fellow americans, blame it all on the foreigners., I suppose you want america to be a "pure land" am I right ;).

America has 300 million people to deal with, how are we suppose to deal with our people when we got foreigners coming in by the millions each year?

America's war was more with Japan and not the germans, russia could of taken care of the Germans since the UK couldn't.

America pure? What's so pure about America we are more multi cultured than any other place around the world.

[QUOTE="Hoobinator"][QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"][QUOTE="Hoobinator"][QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"][QUOTE="Hoobinator"][QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"][QUOTE="dreamachine"][QUOTE="gp19"]

2) They Lost

4) A game is not as fun when you know you're gonna loose

Fruity_Fantasy

so what was with all the vietnam games where you played as the US? they lost. although having never played any of them i have no idea how many mentions of baby killing and napalm death're mentioned in them :|

:cry:

:| Way to go. Mocking atrocities commited in war, when it happens to you, you want the whole world to stay silent and remember and yet you oh so easily dismiss your own iniquities. Hypocrites.

I think America did good in Vietnam since we killed more of them than they killed of us

But you lost badly, committed a **** load of atrocities whilst you were there. But obviously the american thinking must be "if we kill more of them than they do of us.... we kind of win". Must be why you have so many shootings in the US....

We lost only 58,000 and they lost 2.5 million, so yeah American won that one. As far as shootings in the U.S. maybe it's cause we got so many people from other place's around the world moving here. We have to deal with people all over the world that want the great American dream , people even from where you live, wherever that is - I don't care!

I'm sick of people like you talking smack about American but kissing the Japanese on the bottom cause they give you games. Yet in Japan racism isn't illegal nor is treating women like dog crap.

I wish you people from other places around the world would get your big noses out of America's business and worry about your own backyard.

OK. Looks like by your logic Germany won WW2. :|

And I don't kiss no ones ass, and I have a 360. :|

And americans never shoot fellow americans, blame it all on the foreigners., I suppose you want america to be a "pure land" am I right ;).

America has 300 million people to deal with, how are we suppose to deal with our people when we got foreigners coming in by the millions each year?

America's war was more with Japan and not the germans, russia could of taken care of the Germans since the UK couldn't.

America pure? What's so pure about America we are more multi cultured than any other place around the world.

What the **** are you on about?  Seriously, we're talking about the Vietnam war here. By your previous logic where "who kills more wins" would mean Germany is the victor of WW2???

America may have many foreigners coming in each year but the way you dismissed shootings in america as if it's only a foreigner based problem is beyond stupid. To put the blame of america's shooting woes on the shoulders of foreigners shows you know absolutely nothing at all about the topic, or the huge problems the US society is facing.

And as for the last part, America may well be the most multi-cultural place on earth, but most tolerant you certainly are not. 

I want to play as a bad guy, win as a bad guy.redneckdouglas

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