Will there ever be a Zelda as great as Ocarina of Time?

I prefer Wind Waker, myself, so there.

Nintendo is done.

I think Wind Waker is best. Really, if you cast aside the enormous impact OOT was at release, and I'm not sure if it's fair to do that, I would say that Skyward Sword is also better.

No. why would there be? not many games offered what Zelda offered back then... a large 3d world to explore.... they are now in abundance.... times change.... zelda is no longer a massive deal.... thats not to say they are not quality games... its just... they don't stand out anymore...

Hell..... there are minecraft mods out there that could make a better adventure game by players. people now get lost in games like Skyrim for 100s of hours....

simply put.... Zelda feels very small these days. as much as I like them... they feel aimed at a young audiance like I was when I first played it on the N64... now .... its not challenging, its 100% predictable. you cant grasp that same charm over time.

Will TC ever stop making shitty threads?

That's a better question

the answer is no

Yes, It can happen. Ocarina of Time is like the Citizen Cain of Video Games. No one dares to question it's brilliance or integrity, but I actually thought Nintendo far surpassed it with Twilight Princess.

IMO the game already exists, Wind Waker and Majora's Mask have always been as good as OoT in my mind. I even like elements of Majora's Mask better.

Wind waker is my favorite 3D. ALttP is the best 2D.

Yeah. They're called Wind Waker and Twilight Princess

You mean Masterpiece of Time? Probably not.

Let me get this straight: You found Skyward Sword boring and uninspired, yet you never bothered with it?

What the ****?

I mean, Wind Waker is already better...

Ocarina of Time has aged like shit TBH. It's middling at best these days.

Thats a Metal Gear fan for you. Stupid and convoluted.

Wind Waker, Link to the Past, Majoras Mask, Twilight Princess... all Zelda games that I felt were better than OoT. I'll probably put Link Between Worlds up there too when I finally get around to making some progress.

For its time, OoT was one of the most impressive games I ever played. It was just wow omg holy fucking shit impressive to me when it came out. Stepping away from that though, it's just another Zelda game.

Never. Not only was it the best zelda game ever made, it was one of the biggest achievements in gaming.

Skyward Sword is much better than OoT

Majora's Mask, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword.

I personally would argue A Link to the Past is the best. but that depends on whether or not you would compare 2D to 3D games.

It was already a big letdown after aLttP. OoT isn't even in the top three.

I know I know, but the Threeeee Deeee......

I like Majora's Mask about as much as OoT. ALttP, TP, and Skyward Sword were all excellent too. Wind Waker was garbage.

Not a 3D one.

Twilight Princess is the best of the series, 2D or 3D, IMO.

@sonic_spark: Agreed. I'm never getting rid of my Gamecube version. Definitely the last great Nintendo system.

Yes. Its called Majora's Mask

If we take into account the impact it had along with how excellent it is, then easily no.

People act as if you can judge things in a vacuum.

All things being equal every Zelda after it improved in some ways, but the impact those had on gaming is minuscule compared to what OoT was.

That first time you pull out the master sword, the first time you play the Bolero of Fire, the first time you face Ganon. Just...wow!

It's moments like those that made OoT what it is, and anyone who experienced it when it first came out understands why it holds a place atop many a gamers GOAT lists.

Never say never.

I hope so.

Wind Waker is amazing but Ocarina is better

As far as scores go OoT was in a very Unique situation with it comming out when it did with very limited reviews, good game but has been surpassed already.

Ever since more review sites and such have come out, and pretty hard to get as high a score, not to mention how the first impression OoT left on a pure technical level.

I doubt we will see something as earthshattering as the swap from 2d to 3d envioments, But I would claim that A link to the past, Wind Waker. A tidbit of random info: My all time favorite LoZ game was Ironically the very first one.

@sHaDyCuBe321: I know exactly what you mean. I really don't think some people understand what it was like to play that game when it first came out. Especially growing up with previous generations.

OoT is highly overrated while WW, MM and Twlp were a hundred times better.

It really depends on taste.

To me, each Zelda is really unique and tries to do something different.

Wii U Zelda especially is taking the risk of getting rid of the conventions its been stuck with since Ocarina of Time with its more open world Zelda 1 style. and its not simply gonna be open world. As Aunoma explained, Ocarina and especially Wind Waker had these little tricks to make it seem that the world is big and connected with the huge ocean and such, but you still couldnt go over boundaries. Zelda U wants to break this entrapment and let you tackle whatever you want, most spefifically "The puzzles when you decide what you want to do".Im really anxious to see how this will turn out, especially given Link between World's open world worked so well, and it was playing it safe being similar to Link to the Past.

MM already surpassed it.

Since the series still has life and Nintendo continues to produce great games, it can have a game as great as Ocarina of Time sometime in the future.

There is too much Wind Waker praise in this thread. It's good, but it's not that good folks. :p

There are already Zelda's as great as OoT.

ALttP, ALBW, MM, WW are all equally as great.

I don't understand, you didn't bother with skyward sword but the controls are wonky and the story is boring, uninspired?

3D Zelda? No idea. LBW was awfully close though. I flip flop between the two for my 2nd favorite Zelda game.

God damn it scott, I want to respond to your post but my head would explode.

Super Mario World is THE BEST Mario Game. Mario 64 was great. Galaxy games were good if you ignored the fact that the game basically had to help you constantly due to the imprecise controls, but no where near the classics.

Personally I prefer A link to the Past, and Wind Waker to OOT any day.

I hope so, but considering that I haven't enjoyed a Zelda game since Majora's Mask, I don't expect it to happen anytime soon.

Structurally I still think OoT is still the best of the 3D Zeldas. Windwaker is great but has a few flaws--imo the wand swinging could have been more intuitive in a few aspects. Twilight Princess is criminally underrated.

As great in what sense?

As good straight up? I don't think OoT is up to snuff with Majora's Mask.

In terms of impact? hell no. It will never come close to that. OoT had the benefit of devs learning how to make games in 3D around that time.

@scottpsfan14: Oh god this again, really?

You would think after the reviews started rolling in all the shit talking on 3d world would cease but here we are 6 months later