Will they have to Review Liar AGAIN?

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#1 MetalContra
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Reviews are already out on this one, yet it seems as though the final product may be different than the virsion that got reviewed...

Will EGM and others have to re-review the final product?

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#2 Zero_Fate_
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Lair is gold already (At least I think) and Factor 5 is implementing the leaderboards and such.
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#3 dackchaar
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The only reason I see them reviewing it is if they implement the analog control option, and thus lemmings will start calling the game lair "liar" do to them lieing about six-axis being awesome or something like that. Personally I hope they add the option, so that when I do get a PS3 I'll be able to play it that way :).
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#4 skixwolf
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The only reason I see them reviewing it is if they implement the analog control option, and thus lemmings will start calling the game lair "liar" do to them lieing about six-axis being awesome or something like that. Personally I hope they add the option, so that when I do get a PS3 I'll be able to play it that way :).dackchaar


Wait wait, you CANT play the game using the analog stick?
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#5 dackchaar
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[QUOTE="dackchaar"]The only reason I see them reviewing it is if they implement the analog control option, and thus lemmings will start calling the game lair "liar" do to them lieing about six-axis being awesome or something like that. Personally I hope they add the option, so that when I do get a PS3 I'll be able to play it that way :).skixwolf


Wait wait, you CANT play the game using the analog stick?

Not while flying the dragon I believe, when walking with the ground soldier, I think you can use analog.

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#6 Mortok
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The only reason I see them reviewing it is if they implement the analog control option, and thus lemmings will start calling the game lair "liar" do to them lieing about six-axis being awesome or something like that. Personally I hope they add the option, so that when I do get a PS3 I'll be able to play it that way :).dackchaar

I agree. Given the option to choose between the two control schemes would be great instead of being forced to use Sixaxis.

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#7 FrenziedRaldo24
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Lair is going to flop either way. Cows might as well go Home now.

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#8 Kinitari
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Lair is gold already (At least I think) and Factor 5 is implementing the leaderboards and such.Zero_Fate_

No, leaderboards were already there, apparently they are 'tweaking online functions' which I have to call BS on - online function tweaking can be done with a patch - thats nothing that needs to be changed on the actual disc.

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#9 Kinitari
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Lair is going to flop either way. Cows might as well go Home now.

FrenziedRaldo24


I'm... not quite sure what you want me to do?
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#10 deadhead127
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If they put in the analog option, I would definately buy this game. But we'll have to see.
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#11 Xolver
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[QUOTE="Zero_Fate_"]Lair is gold already (At least I think) and Factor 5 is implementing the leaderboards and such.Kinitari

No, leaderboards were already there, apparently they are 'tweaking online functions' which I have to call BS on - online function tweaking can be done with a patch - thats nothing that needs to be changed on the actual disc.

So you condone what happens a lot in PC games - releasing fractured games?

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#12 Kinitari
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[QUOTE="Kinitari"]

[QUOTE="Zero_Fate_"]Lair is gold already (At least I think) and Factor 5 is implementing the leaderboards and such.Xolver

No, leaderboards were already there, apparently they are 'tweaking online functions' which I have to call BS on - online function tweaking can be done with a patch - thats nothing that needs to be changed on the actual disc.

So you condone what happens a lot in PC games - releasing fractured games?



By the time the game actually hit retail, they could probably have had the patch waiting for buyers. It would be released broken on the disc, but no one would notice because as soon as they went online, they'd get a patch notice. Done - save time and money.

I mean, I am estimating they'll be working on it another 2 weeks or so - considering last time it went gold, it was going to release 2 weeks after. So it being released in a months time, I'd give it about 2 weeks dev time. So they could have -just as easily- had a patch out ready in time.

Well this is all conjecture, but I mean... I think I am being pretty logical.
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A couple weeks isn't enough time to completely rehaul the game, so obviously no. They're just fixing "bugs" as they put it, so no big deal.
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#14 jo0ni3
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FLOP!

http://ps3lair.ytmnd.com/

srry.. I've always wanted tosay that word....

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#15 GoldenGlove
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They prolly had another control scheme ready as an emergency situation like this. They prolly said that if it got backlash from the Sixaxis controls that they would push it back to put in analog control in it. That's my guess on what happened.
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#16 rykaziel
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They prolly had another control scheme ready as an emergency situation like this. They prolly said that if it got backlash from the Sixaxis controls that they would push it back to put in analog control in it. That's my guess on what happened. GoldenGlove

But why wouldn't you just have an option for analog control in the first place? Seems like a no brainer to me. I'd rather just use the sticks than be tilting everywhich way trying to control those infernal dragons.

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#17 TEH_rankie
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[QUOTE="FrenziedRaldo24"]

Lair is going to flop either way. Cows might as well go Home now.

Kinitari


I'm... not quite sure what you want me to do?


HAHAHAH.


I lol'ed
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#18 MetalContra
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Lair is going to flop either way. Cows might as well go Home now.

FrenziedRaldo24

yea, Home is going to kick ass

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#20 swordsmen118
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Lair is going to flop either way. Cows might as well go Home now.

FrenziedRaldo24

With a Shadow avatar, I think you know what flops are.

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#21 Lemmywinks_360
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How would they add another control scheme in three weeks? Even if they were able to wouldn't there be a tons of bugs?
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#22 GoldenGlove
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[QUOTE="GoldenGlove"]They prolly had another control scheme ready as an emergency situation like this. They prolly said that if it got backlash from the Sixaxis controls that they would push it back to put in analog control in it. That's my guess on what happened. rykaziel

But why wouldn't you just have an option for analog control in the first place? Seems like a no brainer to me. I'd rather just use the sticks than be tilting everywhich way trying to control those infernal dragons.

Because maybe they wanted to MAKE people use the Sixaxis. I think that they really felt comfortable with the controls. I mean it's kind of crazy to think that they are really that bad when the game was made around them. They wanted to make the game stand out to the point where you could only play it on PS3. But after all the flack it's taken they are forced to go back to a more common control scheme.

I guess if it's not on Wii people call motion sensing on PS3 weird. I really don't think EGM or whoever else who slammed the game gave it a fair chance based on the controls because they just weren't used to it and never played a game that controlled that way. Even the Gamepro review said the the controls were accurate just a bit tiring to do for the duration of the game.

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#23 GoldenGlove
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How would they add another control scheme in three weeks? Even if they were able to wouldn't there be a tons of bugs?Lemmywinks_360

OMG, are you stupid? I'm pretty sure that they created an analog control scheme for this game as well as the motion sensing control scheme. They probably opted for the motion sensing one to show off PS3 tech basically. I'm pretty sure they thought this out plenty of times behind closed doors.

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#24 furtherfan
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Lair is gold already (At least I think) and Factor 5 is implementing the leaderboards and such. Zero_Fate_

they can only read stuff related to controls. they have selective brains at this point of time.

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#25 GoldenGlove
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[QUOTE="Zero_Fate_"]Lair is gold already (At least I think) and Factor 5 is implementing the leaderboards and such. furtherfan

they can only read stuff related to controls. they have selective brains at this point of time.

And your unbelievably naive if you think that they would come out and say, "Yeah we're pushing back Lair because EGM hated the controls". Read between the lines, and stop being a noob.

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#26 furtherfan
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[QUOTE="furtherfan"]

[QUOTE="Zero_Fate_"]Lair is gold already (At least I think) and Factor 5 is implementing the leaderboards and such. GoldenGlove

they can only read stuff related to controls. they have selective brains at this point of time.

And your unbelievably naive if you think that they would come out and say, "Yeah we're pushing back Lair because EGM hated the controls". Read between the lines, and stop being a noob.

ha, ha, still using the word "noob"... still using the word "PWND" often?... ha, ha.

fine, i hope you will reallly look forqward ti the analog flight control. i really hope you do.