Will Uncharted 3 meet Gears of war 3 "unoriginal" fate?

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#1 Bretter2200
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Granted, Gears of war 3 is a near master piece or is according to some reviewers. But some critsized it for not changing much. Even when it's quite literally changed its core game mechanics. This basically hurt it in reviews generally. What I'm wondering, will Uncharted 3 meet the same fate? If Gears of war 2 - 3 went from absolute broken to near perfect; what will happen in the transition from Uncharted 2 - 3?

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Granted, Gears of war 3 is a near master piece or is according to some reviewers. But some critsized it for not changing much. Even when it's quite literally changed its core game mechanics. This basically hurt it in reviews generally. What I'm wondering, will Uncharted 3 meet the same fate? If Gears of war 2 - 3 went from absolute broken to near perfect; what will happen in the transition from Uncharted 2 - 3?

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There's a sticky.
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#3 Bretter2200
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[QUOTE="Bretter2200"]

Granted, Gears of war 3 is a near master piece or is according to some reviewers. But some critsized it for not changing much. Even when it's quite literally changed its core game mechanics. This basically hurt it in reviews generally. What I'm wondering, will Uncharted 3 meet the same fate? If Gears of war 2 - 3 went from absolute broken to near perfect; what will happen in the transition from Uncharted 2 - 3?

Mozelleple112

There's a sticky.


Except it's generally about Uncharted 3, not Gears of war 3. Yet uses it as an example.

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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="Bretter2200"]

Granted, Gears of war 3 is a near master piece or is according to some reviewers. But some critsized it for not changing much. Even when it's quite literally changed its core game mechanics. This basically hurt it in reviews generally. What I'm wondering, will Uncharted 3 meet the same fate? If Gears of war 2 - 3 went from absolute broken to near perfect; what will happen in the transition from Uncharted 2 - 3?

Bretter2200

There's a sticky.


Except it's generally about Uncharted 3, not Gears of war 3. Yet uses it as an example.

Apparently, you don't know what a sticky thread is.

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[QUOTE="Bretter2200"]

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] There's a sticky.mrmusicman247


Except it's generally about Uncharted 3, not Gears of war 3. Yet uses it as an example.

Apparently, you don't know what a sticky thread is.

I don't see an Uncharted 3 sticky.

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#6 Bretter2200
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[QUOTE="Bretter2200"]

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] There's a sticky.mrmusicman247


Except it's generally about Uncharted 3, not Gears of war 3. Yet uses it as an example.

Apparently, you don't know what a sticky thread is.

But I'm refering mainly to Uncharted 3, and asking about it. Not Gears of war 3.

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#7 FreshPrinceUk
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i see them not looking at uncharted series the same way.... reviews butter up to the series slightly more.... example... over at GT mr shane satterfield really tore into GEARS 3 for being very linier (on invisible walls)... but would call games like UNCHARTED and COD brilliant and masterpieces for having the same traits as GEARS
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uncharted was never really original to begin with. never stopped it from being great
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#9 megaspiderweb09
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I think this is an Uncharted related thread.Its kinda difficult making arguements on system wars without getting a moderation

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Probably, which doesn't matter.
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#11 kuraimen
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UC3 will score lower than Gears3 here and higher in MC. I'm calling it. UC3 being the better game.
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if ND keeps being lazy, it won't be pretty for uncharted 3. that game looks even worse than u2 :lol:

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#13 Aidenfury19
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If anything will burden Uncharted 3 I think it will be demonstrating how it improved on the previous game. Uncharted 2 is one of the best reviewed and most awarded games of all time and on the second measure it may actually be tops.

How do you try to beat that? Few developers would have a chance and even Naughty Dog will have a tough time.

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if ND keeps being lazy, it won't be pretty for uncharted 3. that game looks even worse than u2 :lol:

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"even worse". Well UC2 has better graphics than Gears 3 and Crysis 2 (on 360 at least) so that's actually saying quite a bit ;)
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if ND keeps being lazy, it won't be pretty for uncharted 3. that game looks even worse than u2 :lol:

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Lazy? What are you talking about? And when you say it looks worse, are you talking about graphics or just overall? Graphically it looks a little better than Uncharted 2 IMO. Gears 3 looks better than both though...well to me at least.

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#16 mrmusicman247
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[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

if ND keeps being lazy, it won't be pretty for uncharted 3. that game looks even worse than u2 :lol:

Kingpin0114

Lazy? What are you talking about? And when you say it looks worse, are you talking about graphics or just overall? Graphically it looks a little better than Uncharted 2 IMO. Gears 3 looks better than both though...well to me at least.

Pay him no mind.
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#17 mrmusicman247
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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]

[QUOTE="Bretter2200"]


Except it's generally about Uncharted 3, not Gears of war 3. Yet uses it as an example.

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Apparently, you don't know what a sticky thread is.

I don't see an Uncharted 3 sticky.

It's invisible. Only those with worthy enough eyes can see it. [spoiler] Idk. The way TC worded the OP made it seem like it was about Gears [/spoiler]

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#18 Dawq902
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Why try and fix someting that isint broken? Goes for both Gears and Uncharted. Won't be to many major differences compared to the others in the series. The fundamentals of the game are going to be the same.

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#19 coolnessmancool
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Probably, which doesn't matter. Heil68

Shouldnt you change your sig now?

It may get a few points knocked off of its score. Which is dumb since games like Call of Duty get the same scores without changing much. I think when gametrailers review Uncharted 2 it got points off for being unoriginal when they gave Modern Warfare 2 a similar score and nothing was said about it being unoriginal.

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#20 Kingpin0114
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[QUOTE="Heil68"]Probably, which doesn't matter. coolnessmancool

Shouldnt you change your sig now?

It may get a few points knocked off of its score. Which is dumb since games like Call of Duty get the same scores without changing much. I think when gametrailers review Uncharted 2 it got points off for being unoriginal when they gave Modern Warfare 2 a similar score and nothing was said about it being unoriginal.

Nice to see a fellow Packers Fan. Going for that 2peat.

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#21 xOMGITSJASONx
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Uncharted 3 will be fine. You worry too much.

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#22 lostfan132
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why do review scores matter with these games? everyone knows uncharted 3 will be awesome. all gears fans knew that gears 3 was more of the same. dont let review scores dictate your gaming life. i really only pay attention to review scores if its game that i know little about or had no interest in before reviews. i don't even watch trailers for uncharted 3 because i know im getting it day one and i know it will be awesome.

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if ND keeps being lazy, it won't be pretty for uncharted 3. that game looks even worse than u2 :lol:

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In what way does it look worse? U2 was an awesome game so it'll be hard to improve upon. Gears 2 was an abomination so improving must have been quite easy for Epic.
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[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

if ND keeps being lazy, it won't be pretty for uncharted 3. that game looks even worse than u2 :lol:

Da_lil_PimP

In what way does it look worse? U2 was an awesome game so it'll be hard to improve upon. Gears 2 was an abomination so improving must have been quite easy for Epic.

an abomination that scored 9.0? so what does that make infamous 2? :lol:

but then again, it's common knowledge that infmous 2 is a cheap and sad sequel, so that probably wasn't a fair comparison. sorry. :)

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[QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"][QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

if ND keeps being lazy, it won't be pretty for uncharted 3. that game looks even worse than u2 :lol:

KarateeeChop

In what way does it look worse? U2 was an awesome game so it'll be hard to improve upon. Gears 2 was an abomination so improving must have been quite easy for Epic.

an abomination that scored 9.0? so what does that make infamous 2? :lol:

but then again, it's common knowledge that infmous 2 is a cheap and sad sequel, so that probably wasn't a fair comparison. sorry. :)

How is Infamous 2 a cheap and sad sequel?
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Granted, Gears of war 3 is a near master piece or is according to some reviewers. But some critsized it for not changing much. Even when it's quite literally changed its core game mechanics. This basically hurt it in reviews generally. What I'm wondering, will Uncharted 3 meet the same fate? If Gears of war 2 - 3 went from absolute broken to near perfect; what will happen in the transition from Uncharted 2 - 3?

Bretter2200
Most reviewers saw Gears 2 as a masterpiece than Gears 3
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#27 Cow4ever
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I already see on the trailers that Uncharted 3 is at least AAAE. If it gets lower than that it's because of unbeliavably high expectations from U2. Thing is I can't see U3 being worse than UDF and UDF got 89 on MC.

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#28 PAL360
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I dont get those who bash it for not changing enough! Gears 3 perfected an already winning formula. According to reviews it´s fun to play, looks incredible, it´s very polished and one of the most complete packages this gen when it comes to modes and replayability.

Obviously, if i didnt like Gears 1 and 2, i wouldnt most likelly like Gears 3 aswell.

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GS will 8.5 it for being more of the samer, whilst other games will be given a free pass

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#30 Diviniuz
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[QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"][QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

if ND keeps being lazy, it won't be pretty for uncharted 3. that game looks even worse than u2 :lol:

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In what way does it look worse? U2 was an awesome game so it'll be hard to improve upon. Gears 2 was an abomination so improving must have been quite easy for Epic.

an abomination that scored 9.0? so what does that make infamous 2? :lol:

but then again, it's common knowledge that infmous 2 is a cheap and sad sequel, so that probably wasn't a fair comparison. sorry. :)

My favorite part is where he diverges from the actual question at hand, and changes the subject with a completely irreverent argument based on Infamous 2 (which has absoluetely nothing to do with UC or Gears, let alone the question he was asked).

Moving on: Uncharted series was never original to begin with, UC2 got the score because it just did a whole bunch of things just plain better, making it a huge improvement over the games and uc1. If UC3 doesn't significantly improve from UC2, it will be marked down and it will. There is no way UC3 will score higher than UC2 on metacrtics and it will be lucky to get the same score on gamespot. Not that it will be a bad game, it will probably be better, but score less.

Long Story Short: there is no way UC3 can live up to its expectations along with unoriginality, it will probably be marked down.

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GS will 8.5 it for being more of the same, whilst other games will be given a free pass

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#32 Da_lil_PimP
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[QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"][QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]

if ND keeps being lazy, it won't be pretty for uncharted 3. that game looks even worse than u2 :lol:

KarateeeChop

In what way does it look worse? U2 was an awesome game so it'll be hard to improve upon. Gears 2 was an abomination so improving must have been quite easy for Epic.

an abomination that scored 9.0? so what does that make infamous 2? :lol:

but then again, it's common knowledge that infmous 2 is a cheap and sad sequel, so that probably wasn't a fair comparison. sorry. :)

Don't know why you're bringing infamous 2 into this.This is about UC and Gears. Gotta find a way to get out of the question.
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Granted, Gears of war 3 is a near master piece or is according to some reviewers. But some critsized it for not changing much. Even when it's quite literally changed its core game mechanics. This basically hurt it in reviews generally. What I'm wondering, will Uncharted 3 meet the same fate? If Gears of war 2 - 3 went from absolute broken to near perfect; what will happen in the transition from Uncharted 2 - 3?

Bretter2200
You're saying GS took off a whole .5 for unoriginality? That really hurt the score, it did. I hope no one gets fired for that 9.5. =P