Will Xbox 720 games still require 2 or more discs?

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#1 HipHopBeats
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Lol, I'm late to the party finding out most Xbox games are 2 discs. Takes me back to the PS2 days. 'Please insert disc 2 to continue.'I'm guessing Microsoft will step it up for the 720.

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#2 free_milk
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Its only takes 20 fvcking seconds to change discs.I dont see what the big deal is.

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#3 freedomfreak
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Most xbox games? Non. A little late? Oui.
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#4 TheEroica  Moderator
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Lol, I'm late to the party finding out most Xbox games are 2 discs. Takes me back to the PS2 days. 'Please insert disc 2 to continue.'I'm guessing Microsoft will step it up for the 720.

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I wouldnt say most, maybe some of the more ambitious games are, but id say its a shoe in that the xbox is the last dvd powered console out there... wait is wiiu bluray?
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#5 psymon100
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Not that many games require a disc swap. Your use of the word 'most' is inaccurate.

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#6 balfe1990
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Most 360 games have one disc, not the other way around. There's maybe 20+ games in the entire library that have more than one.

And next gen, MS will either go Blu Ray or use a proprietary disc format.

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#7 PAL360
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Maybe later in the gen.

I have no problem with it. I have been changing discs since Amiga 500 days.

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#8 TheEroica  Moderator
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Most xbox games? Non. A little late? Oui.

Tc tres bizarre... ;)
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Its only takes 20 fvcking seconds to change discs.I dont see what the big deal is.

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Well for one thing, I've seen a some people complaning about games with cheap, paper thin disc holders some Xbox games have like the steelbook edition for AC3 and even the collectors edition for ME3 if I'm not mistaken where both discs are on the same disc holder. I assumed by now both Xbox and PS3 games were all on one disc.

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#10 rjdofu
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If it keeps DVD format for whatever stupid reason, yes it will.
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#11 TheEroica  Moderator
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[QUOTE="free_milk"]

Its only takes 20 fvcking seconds to change discs.I dont see what the big deal is.

HipHopBeats

Well for one thing, I've seen a some people complaning about games with cheap, paper thin disc holders some Xbox games have like the steelbook edition for AC3 and even the collectors edition for ME3 if I'm not mistaken where both discs are on the same disc holder. I assumed by now both Xbox and PS3 games were all on one disc.

The CE of ME3 is in a layered holder and may i add that it sucks donkey balls.. i have to bend the disk to points of breaking it to get it out of that holder... not kidding. I almost brought it back when i got it thinking there was something wrong with the case.... anyone else have this problem. I have to put my fingerprints all over the disk to wedge it out of that case to this day. Bleh.
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#12 TheEroica  Moderator
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If it keeps DVD format for whatever stupid reason, yes it will. rjdofu
You know that aint gonna happen.
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#13 psymon100
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[QUOTE="free_milk"]

Its only takes 20 fvcking seconds to change discs.I dont see what the big deal is.

HipHopBeats

Well for one thing, I've seen a some people complaning about games with cheap, paper thin disc holders some Xbox games have like the steelbook edition for AC3 and even the collectors edition for ME3 if I'm not mistaken where both discs are on the same disc holder. I assumed by now both Xbox and PS3 games were all on one disc.

Did you really think I was so stupid that I wouldn't notice a run-on sentence?

I liked how you made this thread based on your own assumption. Your method was unscientific.

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[QUOTE="HipHopBeats"]

[QUOTE="free_milk"]

Its only takes 20 fvcking seconds to change discs.I dont see what the big deal is.

TheEroica

Well for one thing, I've seen a some people complaning about games with cheap, paper thin disc holders some Xbox games have like the steelbook edition for AC3 and even the collectors edition for ME3 if I'm not mistaken where both discs are on the same disc holder. I assumed by now both Xbox and PS3 games were all on one disc.

The CE of ME3 is in a layered holder and may i add that it sucks donkey balls.. i have to bend the disk to points of breaking it to get it out of that holder... not kidding. I almost brought it back when i got it thinking there was something wrong with the case.... anyone else have this problem. I have to put my fingerprints all over the disk to wedge it out of that case to this day. Bleh.

That's what I mean. I'd be pretty pissed having to pry dsics out of a $100 game I brought hoping I don't break the discs. Microsft would have to be out of their minds to continue the dvd format for the 720.

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#15 HalcyonScarlet
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MOST? Forza (car disc requiring an install and never has to be used again) and Rpgs.

Probably less than 5% of 360 games use more than one disc.

Also there is a strong chance the next gen MS console will use Blu Ray, they may have backed the wrong horse HDDVD, but MS don't have so much pride they wouldn't use the winner if it will benefit them.

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#16 PCgameruk
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M$ should just invest in SD cards. They hold a good amount and it will take away the price, heat, space and noise of a disk drive.

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[QUOTE="rjdofu"]If it keeps DVD format for whatever stupid reason, yes it will. TheEroica
You know that aint gonna happen.

Yeah I know :P, not that I care about swapping disks though. But bluray + better reading speed = winner.

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[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="rjdofu"]If it keeps DVD format for whatever stupid reason, yes it will. rjdofu

You know that aint gonna happen.

Yeah I know :P, not that I care about swapping disks though. But bluray + better reading speed = winner.

Sign me up! The sd card option intrigues me most however...
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#19 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"]

[QUOTE="TheEroica"] You know that aint gonna happen.TheEroica

Yeah I know :P, not that I care about swapping disks though. But bluray + better reading speed = winner.

Sign me up! The sd card option intrigues me most however...

Forgot the sd card lol. If it's cost effective, then it'd be better solution; safer & much less problems. I just don't know if it's easier to be exploited however.
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#20 HipHopBeats
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[QUOTE="HipHopBeats"]

[QUOTE="free_milk"]

Its only takes 20 fvcking seconds to change discs.I dont see what the big deal is.

psymon100

Well for one thing, I've seen a some people complaning about games with cheap, paper thin disc holders some Xbox games have like the steelbook edition for AC3 and even the collectors edition for ME3 if I'm not mistaken where both discs are on the same disc holder. I assumed by now both Xbox and PS3 games were all on one disc.

Did you really think I was so stupid that I wouldn't notice a run-on sentence?

I liked how you made this thread based on your own assumption. Your method was unscientific.

huh

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#21 ShadowsDemon
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Probably, yeah.
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#22 speedfog
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Some games will.

But what about this question:

Will Sony still force people to instal a game that takes 10 minutes to instal? I think that situation is worse then the disk swapping ain't it?

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#23 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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Some games will.

But what about this question:

Will Sony still force people to instal a game that takes 10 minutes to instal? I think that situation is worse then the disk swapping ain't it?

speedfog
Installs don't bother me, but the constant game updates are annoying. What I don't understand is that my ps3 hasn't been connected to the Internet for months and the games play just fine without the updates--it's likely a piracy thing. The disc swapping can be annoying, circumstantially. I tend to play adventure type games, or story driven, late at night laying in bed. I'm going through Halo Reach right now--if this game had multiple discs and asked me to switch, I'd likely just save and quit if it did.
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#25 Z-Fatalis
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lol changing disks, my PS1 does that

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[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="rjdofu"] Yeah I know :P, not that I care about swapping disks though. But bluray + better reading speed = winner. rjdofu
Sign me up! The sd card option intrigues me most however...

Forgot the sd card lol. If it's cost effective, then it'd be better solution; safer & much less problems. I just don't know if it's easier to be exploited however.

Yeah true... im thinking about having a console with no disk drive could mean a longer lasting product as well.... but who knows.
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#27 rjdofu
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lol changing disks, my PS1 does that

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Nothing beats mandatory install eh?
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#28 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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When next gen starts Xbox 360 will feel right at home with my psx.
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#29 mstrchf12
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MS would have to have s**t for brains if they think they can survive next gen without a high capacity disc for their games. Either they are going to go with Bluray or some other proprietary format based on Bluray like the WiiU .
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#30 mstrchf12
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Some games will.

But what about this question:

Will Sony still force people to instal a game that takes 10 minutes to instal? I think that situation is worse then the disk swapping ain't it?

speedfog
A one time 10-minute install is anyday better than disk swapping. If I wanted to play a specific portion of the game, I would have to put in disc 1, load the game and then put in the next disc. That is painful.
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#31 Badosh
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Most games? lol.
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#32 TheEroica  Moderator
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MS would have to have s**t for brains if they think they can survive next gen without a high capacity disc for their games. Either they are going to go with Bluray or some other proprietary format based on Bluray like the WiiU .mstrchf12
Greenray confirmed!
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#33 hippiesanta
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yes... 720 will be using 2 scratch disc ..... lol
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#34 SecretPolice
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I hope there will be a minimum of like 10 disks because it means we are getting so much more for the money plus the added appeal of a game when you've already put 75 hours in the game and you have yet to get to disk 6 out of 10 !! :shock: :twisted:

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#35 bobbetybob
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Most Xbox games? Which orifice are you pulling those figures from? And 720 will almost definitely do what the WiiU has done and have a proprietary Blu Ray style disk which should be more than enough, the biggest game I've ever downloaded was Max Payne 3's insane 32GB of files so 30-50GB should be enough for next gen.
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I hope there will be a minimum of like 10 disks because it means we are getting so much more for the money plus the added appeal of a game when you've already put 75 hours in the game and you have yet to get to disk 6 out of 10 !! :shock: :twisted:

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:lol: I always felt that the disk swap thing was kinda silly.... are we that fat and disgusting? I know im not... im a goddamnned sexual tyranasauras....
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#37 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

I hope there will be a minimum of like 10 disks because it means we are getting so much more for the money plus the added appeal of a game when you've already put 75 hours in the game and you have yet to get to disk 6 out of 10 !! :shock: :twisted:

TheEroica

:lol: I always felt that the disk swap thing was kinda silly.... are we that fat and disgusting? I know im not... im a goddamnned sexual tyranasauras....

You Too :shock: and here I thought I was the last of the species. :P

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I hate switching disks so much. The other day, I had to put he second disk from Resident Evil 4 in my Wii and literally almost spilled my two 64 ounce store brand sodas and I went all crazy and kicked my cat. After the fact, I discovered that the cat as actually my newborn baby in a cat costume my wife bought at K Mart for Thanksgiving. And it turns out that the baby is actually the mail man's. My life is now a ruin, and its all because I had to change disks. Please Microsoft, don't let this happen to others.
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#39 SecretPolice
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I hate switching disks so much. The other day, I had to put he second disk from Resident Evil 4 in my Wii and literally almost spilled my two 64 ounce store brand sodas and I went all crazy and kicked my cat. After the fact, I discovered that the cat as actually my newborn baby in a cat costume my wife bought at K Mart for Thanksgiving. And it turns out that the baby is actually the mail man's. My life is now a ruin, and its all because I had to change disks. Please Microsoft, don't let this happen to others.ekalbtwin
:lol: Pretty good umm, 8.5/10. :P

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I hate switching disks so much. The other day, I had to put he second disk from Resident Evil 4 in my Wii and literally almost spilled my two 64 ounce store brand sodas and I went all crazy and kicked my cat. After the fact, I discovered that the cat as actually my newborn baby in a cat costume my wife bought at K Mart for Thanksgiving. And it turns out that the baby is actually the mail man's. My life is now a ruin, and its all because I had to change disks. Please Microsoft, don't let this happen to others.ekalbtwin
I'm calling BS on this, doesn't the Wii version of Resi 4 only have one disk? Unless you were playing the Gamecube version on your Wii, and that's just weird and you deserved it.
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#41 The_Game21x
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Lol, I'm late to the party finding out most Xbox games are 2 discs.

HipHopBeats

Stopped reading here.

You have no idea what you're talking about if you think "most" Xbox games are 2 discs. :|

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Its only takes 20 fvcking seconds to change discs.I dont see what the big deal is.

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People said the same about tv's before remote controls. What can we say we like convenience.
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#43 mariokart64fan
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i have a game that requires 4 disc and a game that requires 3 -two actually -la noire rage and 2 that require 2 -forza 3 and 4 lol

i hope not , if one disc breaks you gotta buy the whole set , which is what sucks about 4 disc games lol

and to say they wont use dvd again is stupid,

you dont know what their doing , they can still use dvd a newer type of dvd could be used

one that holds just as much as bluray - wiiu uses similar method -different type of disc that hold the same amount as a bluray

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If it keeps DVD format for whatever stupid reason, yes it will. rjdofu
I agree if they keep DVD then they will have to be on 2 or more discs.

But it wouldn't make sense for them to keep DVD since they would be the only console next gen to have less then a 25GB disc capacity.

That is if they keep DVD; since even Nintendo would have larger discs then Microsoft.

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#45 Cheleman
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hopefully not:P

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A 20 second swap >>> A 5-10 wait for a mandatory installation
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#47 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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Microsoft would be stupid to not use blu-ray (or some derivative) in their next console.
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#48 GamerwillzPS
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Nope, I'm pretty sure that Xbox 720 will get Blu-ray.

I'd be VERY surprised if it didn't.

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A 20 second swap >>> A 5-10 wait for a mandatory installationZeviander
But that was the Blu-ray technology at the start of this gen.

Nintendo's Wii U disc (proprietary version of Blu-ray) reads at 22MB/s

360's disc reads at 15.85MB/s and PS3's Blu-ray reads at 9MB/s

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#50 kuraimen
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And hold back games again? Hopefully not.