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#1 KiZZo1
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Windows 8 seems like an important step in Microsoft's overall strategy, with its integration of XBL and support for ARM, but will it satisfy user expectations?

Windows 8 Survey: Half Who Have Tried the OS Wouldn't Recommend It

The most controversial aspect of Microsoft's new OS is the Metro interface. Fewer than half of the 2900 readers who answered our survey about the Consumer Preview said they were satisfied with the new interface.

Some of the most common complaints about Metro:

  • The transition from the new interface to the traditional desktop environment is awkward.
  • Metro apps mostly display full-screen, wasting valuable screen real estate.
  • There's no simple and obvious way to shut down Metro apps.
  • Even a task as basic as shutting down your PC is obscure and takes too many steps.

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#2 soulitane
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I haven't used it but I thought it was possible to just shut down metro all together and just use it like a normal OS.
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#3 waltefmoney
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It's fine. The metro interface can be a pain at first, but you get used to it fast.

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#4 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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It's the Microsoft pattern. Windows 98: Good Windows Millennium Edition: AWFUL Windows XP: Good Windows Vista: AWFUL Windows 7: Good Windows 8: ??? It's just keeping with tradition
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#5 Androvinus
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oh microsoft. you were doing so well till you started trying to be apple.
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#6 Maroxad
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Not surprising really, I honestly expected it to not do that well.

It's the Microsoft pattern. Windows 98: Good Windows Millennium Edition: AWFUL Windows XP: Good Windows Vista: AWFUL Windows 7: Good Windows 8: ??? It's just keeping with traditioncharizard1605

Lol, so true.

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I haven't used it but I thought it was possible to just shut down metro all together and just use it like a normal OS.soulitane
this is what im wondering as well

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Not surprising really, I honestly expected it to not do that well.

Lol, so true.

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Haha. I plan on sticking with Windows 7 for a very long time to come.
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#9 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

Not surprising really, I honestly expected it to not do that well.

Lol, so true.

charizard1605

Haha. I plan on sticking with Windows 7 for a very long time to come.

You guys jelly?

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[QUOTE="soulitane"]I haven't used it but I thought it was possible to just shut down metro all together and just use it like a normal OS.TheShadowLord07

this is what im wondering as well

Could someone who's used it clarify this please? :P
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#11 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

this is what im wondering as well

soulitane

Could someone who's used it clarify this please? :P

http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-how-to-re-enable-the-classic-start-menu

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Maroxad"]

Not surprising really, I honestly expected it to not do that well.

Lol, so true.

waltefmoney

Haha. I plan on sticking with Windows 7 for a very long time to come.

You guys jelly?

Huh?

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[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

this is what im wondering as well

waltefmoney

Could someone who's used it clarify this please? :P

http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-how-to-re-enable-the-classic-start-menu

I think they disabled that in the customer preview.
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[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

this is what im wondering as well

waltefmoney

Could someone who's used it clarify this please? :P

http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-how-to-re-enable-the-****c-start-menu

Ohk, thanks.

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#15 waltefmoney
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I think they disabled that in the customer preview.Loegi

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/boot-to-the-classic-desktop-in-windows-8-consumer-preview/19068

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Microsoft is doomed:

Windows 8 - bomba

Xbox 720 - always online

Goodbye MS :cry:

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#17 LovePotionNo9
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The animated, colorful square boxes are also kind of ugly. And each app requiring full screen does seem like a waste of screen real estate unless it's an application that would best be used that way. Oh well. Guess I'll stick to Windows 7 then. No sense in buying worthless upgrades.
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#18 waltefmoney
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Microsoft is doomed:

Windows 8 - bomba

Xbox 720 - always online

Goodbye MS :cry:

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[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

Not surprising really, I honestly expected it to not do that well.

Lol, so true.

charizard1605

Haha. I plan on sticking with Windows 7 for a very long time to come.

I only just now got off of XP.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Maroxad"]

Not surprising really, I honestly expected it to not do that well.

Lol, so true.

CLOUDsea

Haha. I plan on sticking with Windows 7 for a very long time to come.

I only just now got off of XP.

I;m sorry :(
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Maroxad"]

Not surprising really, I honestly expected it to not do that well.

Lol, so true.

CLOUDsea

Haha. I plan on sticking with Windows 7 for a very long time to come.

I only just now got off of XP.

You're not the only one, I've only been using 7 for just over a month now :P
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[QUOTE="CLOUDsea"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Haha. I plan on sticking with Windows 7 for a very long time to come.charizard1605

I only just now got off of XP.

I;m sorry :(

I'm not sure I even like all of the changes to Win 7. Why cant I just have a normal My Documents? What is all of this Libraries nonsense?

Or maybe I just dont know how to use it lol.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="CLOUDsea"]

I only just now got off of XP.

CLOUDsea

I;m sorry :(

I'm not sure I even like all of the changes to Win 7. Why cant I just have a normal My Documents? What is all of this Libraries nonsense?

Or maybe I just dont know how to use it lol.

That was my reaction to begin with. it took me a few months to get used to it. Then one fine day, I suddenly get it, and bam- it was beautiful. I have not been able to use any other OS since.
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#24 Maroxad
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="CLOUDsea"]

I only just now got off of XP.

CLOUDsea

I;m sorry :(

I'm not sure I even like all of the changes to Win 7. Why cant I just have a normal My Documents? What is all of this Libraries nonsense?

Or maybe I just dont know how to use it lol.

You will get used to it. I too wasnt particulary comfortable with Windows 7 at first. But I ended up liking it more than XP.

Edit: Besides, on the start menu there should be a shortcut to the documents, I havent opened my Libraries folder in a long time.

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#25 CLOUDsea
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[QUOTE="CLOUDsea"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] I;m sorry :(charizard1605

I'm not sure I even like all of the changes to Win 7. Why cant I just have a normal My Documents? What is all of this Libraries nonsense?

Or maybe I just dont know how to use it lol.

That was my reaction to begin with. it took me a few months to get used to it. Then one fine day, I suddenly get it, and bam- it was beautiful. I have not been able to use any other OS since.

I'm getting that it's a way of organizing things, but it seems a little difficult for me to keep track of where things really are.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="CLOUDsea"]

I'm not sure I even like all of the changes to Win 7. Why cant I just have a normal My Documents? What is all of this Libraries nonsense?

Or maybe I just dont know how to use it lol.

CLOUDsea

That was my reaction to begin with. it took me a few months to get used to it. Then one fine day, I suddenly get it, and bam- it was beautiful. I have not been able to use any other OS since.

I'm getting that it's a way of organizing things, but it seems a little difficult for me to keep track of where things really are.

It gets very easy after some time. Used in conjunction with the Start Menu, the taskbar and the Search function, you will always find what you're looking for in a matter of minutes.
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You mean in a matter of seconds, right?
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I'v been using it for awhile now and I'm fully accustomed to it.

I don't mind Metro at all. Infact I now use it as my new place for desktop icons.

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#29 musicalmac  Moderator
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It's too bad. Windows 7 is even disappointing to me. Good for games - that's it.
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#30 garrett_daniels
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A lot of those complaining about Metro haven't actually sat down and given it a fair chance. I'm sitting here on the desktop side of Windows 8 and the only obvious signs that this isn't Windows 7 are the missing Start button and slightly tweaked Aero UI. When you're on the desktop side you'll only see Metro when launching or searching through the Start Screen (which replaces the Start Menu). If you absolutely hate everything about Metro you can stick to the desktop and hardly see it at all. Windows 8 isn't all about Metro either; there are many nice improvements for the desktop side such as faster start up/shut down.

The Start Screen looks very different from the Start Menu, but it still retains all expected behaviour, features and keyboard shortcuts. The only feature that has not made a seamless transition is the All Programs menu which was rarely used by Vista/7 users; it is now hidden away but can be easily accessed with the mouse or the new Win+Q keyboard shortcut.

Regardless of preference for visuals the Metro model allows for all sorts of interesting possibilities. You can share content from any app to any other app that accepts that type of content without the developers having to specifically make their apps able to work with each other. You can also launch a search inside an app from anywhere, e.g. I can enter "chocolate" as a keyword and then click on a dictionary app to see a definition, a cookbook app to see recipes, an ebook app to see books about chocolate, etc.

The animated, colorful square boxes are also kind of ugly. And each app requiring full screen does seem like a waste of screen real estate unless it's an application that would best be used that way. Oh well. Guess I'll stick to Windows 7 then. No sense in buying worthless upgrades.LovePotionNo9

Metro apps can also be set to a sidebar view (about 1/4 of the screen) to use alongside another Metro app and/or the desktop. Desktop apps continue to work in individual windows as expected.

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I don't think it will be another Vista. Metro might not catch up on desktop, but it will do fine on tablets and people who don't like it will just stick to desktop mode. SO bassicaly the biggest problem will be at most having a part of OS that you don't use, as opposed to having bad OS, like it was with Vista

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I don't think it will be another Vista. Metro might not catch up on desktop, but it will do fine on tablets and people who don't like it will just stick to desktop mode. SO bassicaly the biggest problem will be at most having a part of OS that you don't use, as opposed to having bad OS, like it was with Vista

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Vista wasn't a bad OS, it was just poorly optimized.
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

I don't think it will be another Vista. Metro might not catch up on desktop, but it will do fine on tablets and people who don't like it will just stick to desktop mode. SO bassicaly the biggest problem will be at most having a part of OS that you don't use, as opposed to having bad OS, like it was with Vista

charizard1605

Vista wasn't a bad OS, it was just poorly optimized.

Yeah, and all the security BS. After the patches it was fine.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

I don't think it will be another Vista. Metro might not catch up on desktop, but it will do fine on tablets and people who don't like it will just stick to desktop mode. SO bassicaly the biggest problem will be at most having a part of OS that you don't use, as opposed to having bad OS, like it was with Vista

waltefmoney

Vista wasn't a bad OS, it was just poorly optimized.

Yeah, and all the security BS. After the patches it was fine.

The first time I used Visa was after SP1- in other words, after most of its most annoying problems had already been fixed. Therefore, i never saw what the problem was, and actually quite liked it. A lot. Until Windows 7, that is.
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The basedgod ponders; Even if you could revert the metro back to the old interface. Why would the basedgod upgrade to a significant feature that he wouldnt use?
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Windows 8 just seems to be more of a tablet OS than a PC OS which is a negative. I don't really like the app interface as well. Its similar to the new 360 dashboard which I don't like either. Who knows? W8 might be a success............nah
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

I don't think it will be another Vista. Metro might not catch up on desktop, but it will do fine on tablets and people who don't like it will just stick to desktop mode. SO bassicaly the biggest problem will be at most having a part of OS that you don't use, as opposed to having bad OS, like it was with Vista

charizard1605

Vista wasn't a bad OS, it was just poorly optimized.

No, it was mostly released too early. Of course, it was full of holes, but what killed it was terrible driver compatibility. This won't be a problem for W8

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[QUOTE="illmatic87"]The basedgod ponders; Even if you could revert the metro back to the old interface. Why would the basedgod upgrade to a significant feature that he wouldnt use?

Isn't this the same argument that was made about the 3DS and its 3D mode?
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

I don't think it will be another Vista. Metro might not catch up on desktop, but it will do fine on tablets and people who don't like it will just stick to desktop mode. SO bassicaly the biggest problem will be at most having a part of OS that you don't use, as opposed to having bad OS, like it was with Vista

AdrianWerner

Vista wasn't a bad OS, it was just poorly optimized.

No, it was mostly released too early. Of course, it was full of holes, but what killed it was terrible driver compatibility. This won't be a problem for W8

Like I said, I got to use it AFTER SP1, and by then, its problems had all been patched. Luckily, I never ran into any problems myself.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="CLOUDsea"]

I only just now got off of XP.

CLOUDsea

I;m sorry :(

I'm not sure I even like all of the changes to Win 7. Why cant I just have a normal My Documents? What is all of this Libraries nonsense?

Or maybe I just dont know how to use it lol.

What MS did is simply move all those other media folders (Downloads, Pictures, Music, Videos, etc) out of My Documents into the main user folder. That's one less directory level to deal with for those folders.

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#42 JohnF111
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Metro is actually not as bad as the old men who can't change with the times suggest.
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#43 ShadowriverUB
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Well as they got Metro they won't just throw it away, Win 9 will probably have it too but they would need to change formula, fro example in Apple way with tieing metro with app window as full screen mode
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"And this is the year where Windows has fallen below 50% of internet connected device down from 97% a few years ago."

Sauce

And Internet Explorer has gone from 88% to 19.5%

Sauce

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#45 ShadowriverUB
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"And this is the year where Windows has fallen below 50% of internet connected device down from 97% a few years ago."

Sauce

And Internet Explorer has gone from 88% to 19.5%

Sauce

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First one is smartphone boom in which Microsoft does not doing much or well, also with this 97% i think they skipped servers, if you count servers (they are devices connected to internet) that number was definitly lower
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Metro UI aside, Windows 8 is easily the best version of Windows when it comes to software. They've made a lot of back-end changes and updates to make Windows 8 run faster and with less hardware. They finally addressed file copying and they were able to reduce the amount of startup ram by a decent amount.

The Metro UI is neat, but they aren't smart for pushing it on everybody.

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"And this is the year where Windows has fallen below 50% of internet connected device down from 97% a few years ago."

Sauce

And Internet Explorer has gone from 88% to 19.5%

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The first one is because most internet connected devices today are not PCs. Smartphones, tablets, and even MP3 players, game consoles, media centers... everything connects to the internet.

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#48 Heil68
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I'm very happy with Windows 7 and I'll stick with for sometime, even with my new build next year.
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#49 ShadowriverUB
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I'm happy with my Linux ^^ thru i something itching me to try out Win8 to see how this metro fell on my own skin
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"And this is the year where Windows has fallen below 50% of internet connected device down from 97% a few years ago."

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It is also the year where more Windows PCs were sold than any other year before it and a year where Windows is installed on more devices than it has ever been before.