windows 8 to be next vista?

it seems every other windows is bad. So now that windows 7 is better then vista will windows 8 be bad?

I downloaded the developer preview, and it's not too bad, but it's just not a significant change. I think releasing a hybrid of touchscreen and kb/mouse is a mistake.

microsoft loves to play the new coke card. They know that their os are not that great. So when people use the bad one and get to use the decent one it seems great.

i think its going to be a mess because they are trying to go cross platfrom for the frist time.

I'm no expert on the system, but it seems like the new features don't really add much to the Windows experience.

I have mixed feelings about changing the explorer to be the ribbon style, the Metro UI is absolutely useless for me, and I don't care about the Windows Store.

I do like the shorter boot times and the improved optimization.

But I can see Windows 8 being a hard sell. It's just not that different from Windows 7.

Everyone flocked to Windows 7 because Vista was an abomination and everyone who invested in Vista wanted out as soon as possible.

But Windows 8? I'm not so sure.

Do you guys even know what you are talking about

90% of the problems with vista weren't problems with the OS, it was the changes that people didn't understand like UAC... prefetching which purposly utilized more ram to speed up stability... and **** drivers from all the companies that made hardware....

then vista had power management issues... didn't wake properly... and that was its biggest issue

But don't let my defense of vista fool you, windows 8 is going to be crap... the mixing of hte metro GUI and desktop gui so far is a complete crapfest, tyring to use it on a tablet is difficult everytime you need to access the desktop for certain thingss... and well being on a desktop with the metro gui that pops up is stupid.

Do you guys even know what you are talking about

90% of the problems with vista weren't problems with the OS, it was the changes that people didn't understand like UAC... prefetching which purposly utilized more ram to speed up stability... and **** drivers from all the companies that made hardware....

then vista had power management issues... didn't wake properly... and that was its biggest issue

But don't let my defense of vista fool you, windows 8 is going to be crap... the mixing of hte metro GUI and desktop gui so far is a complete crapfest, tyring to use it on a tablet is difficult everytime you need to access the desktop for certain thingss... and well being on a desktop with the metro gui that pops up is stupid.

savagetwinkie

vista was hella slow

microsoft loves to play the new coke card. They know that their os are not that great. So when people use the bad one and get to use the decent one it seems great.

dontshackzmii

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"]

Do you guys even know what you are talking about

90% of the problems with vista weren't problems with the OS, it was the changes that people didn't understand like UAC... prefetching which purposly utilized more ram to speed up stability... and **** drivers from all the companies that made hardware....

then vista had power management issues... didn't wake properly... and that was its biggest issue

But don't let my defense of vista fool you, windows 8 is going to be crap... the mixing of hte metro GUI and desktop gui so far is a complete crapfest, tyring to use it on a tablet is difficult everytime you need to access the desktop for certain thingss... and well being on a desktop with the metro gui that pops up is stupid.

vista was hella slow

it seems every other windows is bad. So now that windows 7 is better then vista will windows 8 be bad?

dontshackzmii

windows 7 is pretty much vista with a new UI, it was slow when it was released because PC companies released insufficient hardware for vista with it preinstalled... but windos 8 does have some huge optimizations especially with boot speed...

savagetwinkie

Netbooks says Hi...

Windows 7 is not Windows Vista. Read MSDN link

Windows Vista

Windows 7.

Who cares?

Most people download every new Windows OS for free, and install it on a different partition for dual booting.

If it sucks, you can always go back to 7.

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

microsoft loves to play the new coke card. They know that their os are not that great. So when people use the bad one and get to use the decent one it seems great.

WilliamRLBaker

What's special about Mac OS X?

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

microsoft loves to play the new coke card. They know that their os are not that great. So when people use the bad one and get to use the decent one it seems great.

ronvalencia

What's special about Mac OS X?

Likely.

The in between Windows OS tends to only be an upgrade of the previous one, with little significant improvements

Microsoft then hypes the new OS the second coming,

even though its just old1.25.

People don't buy/buy and are angry and switch back.

Apple tends to get a similar level of minor improvement, but does less hyping, and treats it more as an upgrade(thus avoid the hype bubble bust)

Sort of odd for current Apple though

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] their os are not that great yet some how they are the most used os in the world..odd that... percech

What's special about Mac OS X?

There are virus on the MacOS X

PS; I have run retail MacOS X 10.6 + Mac Office 2011 on my laptop.

Probably another vista.

Anyone know whether new versions of direct x are going to be tied to it?

Or are they going to let them run on win7?

I expect it to be a lot worst than Vista

For one it has no longer XNA support, then the Risk CPU support will probably make it the most unstable OS they have made by far

The interface is also too much and useless, the store idea is a joke in PC environment of course

Probably another vista.

Anyone know whether new versions of direct x are going to be tied to it?

Or are they going to let them run on win7?

topgunmv

Windows 8 has DirectX11.1. Microsoft also has C++ AMP.

I expect it to be a lot worst than Vista

For one it has no longer XNA support, then the Risk CPU support will probably make it the most unstable OS they have made by far

The interface is also too much and useless, the store idea is a joke in PC environment of course

loosingENDS

Your statement is a LOL.

A cut-down Windows already runs on ARM i.e. Windows CE.

Modern X86 CPUs are internally RISC processors and Windows NT 4.0 was released on RISC CPUs like PowerPC, MIPS and Alpha.

Windows 8's Metro's tile UI is not much different to the current Valve Steam's tile UI.

Valve's Steam UI can integrate well in Windows 8's Metro UI.

What if Valve's Steam was ported to Metro UI

Probably it will be. In contrast, nobody cares about windows and pc or latops anyways. It's all about smartphones and tablets. That's the future lies and pretty much Android has that on lock.

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

Probably another vista.

Anyone know whether new versions of direct x are going to be tied to it?

Or are they going to let them run on win7?

ronvalencia

Windows 8 has DirectX11.1. Microsoft also has C++ AMP.

And those won't be backwards compatable with windows 7?

Microsoft releases a beta version in between real versions for a quick cash in. Nothing new, Windows 8 will be a beta version with the price tag of a finished version. Windows 9 will be the complete version.kuraimen

I have mixed feelings about changing the explorer to be the ribbon style, the Metro UI is absolutely useless for me,

peterw007

You can minimize the ribbon and of course metro is useless now, there are no apps for it yet.

They are clearly aiming at touch based devices with this new version of Windows. I don't think that's very smart because those kind of PCs only account for a small fraction.

I don't see the advantages for people with desktop PCs/laptops. Who are the majority.

This will flop as hard as vista.

Probably it will be. In contrast, nobody cares about windows and pc or latops anyways. It's all about smartphones and tablets. That's the future lies and pretty much Android has that on lock.

ratchet_usa

Win8 is the tablet os many were waiting for. Tablets right now are just toys and only cover a really really small marketshare because of that.

A computer that acts like a real PC in home with kb/m and x86 software then undock it and use it as a tablet when you go outside is the future and MS did the right choice in making win8 hybrid.

vista was hella slow

dontshackzmii

Not really no. When Vista released the Pentium 4 was the norm. There was a lot of weak hardware around. When win7 launche the dual core was the norm so it felt more light. I bought a new PC when Vista came out and had no problems whatsoever with it. As long as your hardware was not ancient Vista was fine, much better than XP.

Do you guys even know what you are talking about

90% of the problems with vista weren't problems with the OS, it was the changes that people didn't understand like UAC... prefetching which purposly utilized more ram to speed up stability... and **** drivers from all the companies that made hardware....

then vista had power management issues... didn't wake properly... and that was its biggest issue

But don't let my defense of vista fool you, windows 8 is going to be crap... the mixing of hte metro GUI and desktop gui so far is a complete crapfest, tyring to use it on a tablet is difficult everytime you need to access the desktop for certain thingss... and well being on a desktop with the metro gui that pops up is stupid.

savagetwinkie

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

vista was hella slow

edidili

Not really no. When Vista released the Pentium 4 was the norm. There was a lot of weak hardware around. When win7 launche the dual core was the norm so it felt more light. I bought a new PC when Vista came out and had no problems whatsoever with it. As long as your hardware was not ancient Vista was fine, much better than XP.

Netbooks says Hi...

Windows 7 is not Windows Vista. Read MSDN link

Windows Vista

Windows 7.

Vista was disastrous. I think it'll be good.

Considering the back end is pretty much an optimized Windows 7, it can't possibly be worse than Windows 7.

Considering the back end is pretty much an optimized Windows 7, it can't possibly be worse than Windows 7.

Wasdie

I didn't see what the huge problem was with Vista. I actually liked the glossy look.

Doubt it. THe reasons Vista sucked were lack of drivers. W8 uses the same drivers Win7 used, so there won't be any compatibility problems. In desktop mode it looks like simply and upgrade of W7, so there's no reason to believe it will suck.

Metro mode is different beast, but what's in beta already is much better than Windows7 ever was on tablets.

So overall it looks like a pretty great relese and definitely will be the most versalite OS ever made. Whether it will succeed on tablets is whole different matter, but this has little to do with it's quality.

Probably it will be. In contrast, nobody cares about windows and pc or latops anyways. It's all about smartphones and tablets. That's the future lies and pretty much Android has that on lock.

ratchet_usa

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

microsoft loves to play the new coke card. They know that their os are not that great. So when people use the bad one and get to use the decent one it seems great.

ronvalencia

What's special about Mac OS X?

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] their os are not that great yet some how they are the most used os in the world..odd that... AdrianWerner

What's special about Mac OS X?

how many people use windows does not reflect quality of the product. People have no choice because windows is all there is.

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] their os are not that great yet some how they are the most used os in the world..odd that... percech

What's special about Mac OS X?

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Considering the back end is pretty much an optimized Windows 7, it can't possibly be worse than Windows 7.

ActionRemix

That's what worries me too.

It looks like an upgrade for touch based devices

But a downgrade for everything else

Personally, I love Windows 8. I have a developer preview build running on one of my machines. It'll be just as good, if not better than Windows 7. It's the culmination of this multi-year ecosystem effort Microsoft has been doing. Microsoft is going to have an ecosystem that rivals Apple when this is released.

Microsoft releases a beta version in between real versions for a quick cash in. Nothing new, Windows 8 will be a beta version with the price tag of a finished version. Windows 9 will be the complete version.kuraimen

EDIT: Sorry, Atreyu came on..... Really loud... It sounded like war so i had to say it :)