With HD-DVD victory imminent, what will happen to PS3?

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#1 zazoo4455
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With HD-DVD victory imminent, what does the future hold for the PS3?  Will Blu-Ray eventually become just a PS3 format?  How will it affect PS3 sales?
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Sony deservers all thats comming to them for all their dirty business practices. If blu-ray fails, it's almost a sure doom for the PS3 because the publicity that is going to come will be very negative. It will be labled as the console with the "obsolete" High Def dvd-player etc by the know-nothing journalists in the big media publications. Sony will HAVE TO take the blu-ray function out of the PS3 if it has any dreams of selling it to the public after blu-ray has failed.

Sony simply gambled WAY too much on this new format and integrating it into the PS3, they should have made it an add-on which would have made it much cheaper.. but then again... SONY is GREEDY and they wanted to force blu-ray into your home... typical.
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#3 Israfel856
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It won't. People buying PS3's mainly want games, not movies.
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dude, nothing is known for sure yet. please refer to the 4654987 threads on this subject.... Nothign is known for sure on anything. And if BD does lose, well it'll still be a godo media storage format and work for the games...
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Most likely not as good as previous gen's. But there IS NO WAY SONY will drop from game-market this gen, it just is not possible.
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[QUOTE="kyosukeugc"]dude, nothing is known for sure yet. please refer to the 4654987 threads on this subject.... Nothign is known f or sure on anything. And if BD does lose, well it'll still be a godo media storage format and work for the games...

yea thats what SEGA thought with the GD-Rom.
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With HD-DVD victory imminent, what does the future hold for the PS3?  Will Blu-Ray eventually become just a PS3 format?  How will it affect PS3 sales?zazoo4455
With a HD-DVD victory, yes Blu-ray would become a PS3 only format. The only effect it would have on sales is that the people that would be buying it just for movies would not buy it anymore.
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With HD-DVD victory imminent, what does the future hold for the PS3?  Will Blu-Ray eventually become just a PS3 format?  How will it affect PS3 sales?zazoo4455
Wow they just started, is the blue ray disc already in trouble?
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[QUOTE="bigmark64"][QUOTE="kyosukeugc"]dude, nothing is known for sure yet. please refer to the 4654987 threads on this subject.... Nothign is known f or sure on anything. And if BD does lose, well it'll still be a godo media storage format and work for the games...

yea thats what SEGA thought with the GD-Rom.

Sega's demise had nothing to do with the GD-Rom format.
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Probably help Sony a ton, because they would finally be able to release a non Blu-Ray version of the PS3 and sell it at a reasonable price.
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Sony deservers all thats comming to them for all their dirty business practices. If blu-ray fails, it's almost a sure doom for the PS3 because the publicity that is going to come will be very negative. It will be labled as the console with the "obsolete" High Def dvd-player etc by the know-nothing journalists in the big media publications. Sony will HAVE TO take the blu-ray function out of the PS3 if it has any dreams of selling it to the public after blu-ray has failed.

Sony simply gambled WAY too much on this new format and integrating it into the PS3, they should have made it an add-on which would have made it much cheaper.. but then again... SONY is GREEDY and they wanted to force blu-ray into your home... typical.
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[QUOTE="zazoo4455"]With HD-DVD victory imminent, what does the future hold for the PS3?  Will Blu-Ray eventually become just a PS3 format?  How will it affect PS3 sales?xXHackettXx
Wow they just started, is the blue ray disc already in trouble?

Remember this is system wars. If someone does not like something then it automatically becomes a failure well before it has been released.
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I didn't realize its victory was imminent. What movies/games does HD-DVD have coming out to combat Casino Royale and Spider Man 3? Not to mention the fact that Sony Pictures made the highest gross this year. In fact, they did so well this year, they actually managed to break the last record, which was also set by them, in 2002. Highest gross = more people wanting to see their movies = more potential blu-ray customers. It's not over yet.
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Probably help Sony a ton, because they would finally be able to release a non Blu-Ray version of the PS3 and sell it at a reasonable price.AfterShafter


You're forgetting Sony has spearheaded the Blu-ray format, and they have ALOT invested in it. ALOT.
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HD-DVD is far from winning. in fact the winner still looks more likely to be Blu-Ray.
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With HD-DVD victory imminent, what does the future hold for the PS3? Will Blu-Ray eventually become just a PS3 format? How will it affect PS3 sales?zazoo4455
Sony is and will fail. Too bad.
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With HD-DVD victory imminent, what does the future hold for the PS3?  Will Blu-Ray eventually become just a PS3 format?  How will it affect PS3 sales?zazoo4455
how is hd-dvd victory imminent?........
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Not enough to doom them, poor little market analysis in training. Seriously, people need to stop posting these kinds of threads. You're not market analysts. You don't know anything. You can only delude yourself into thinking that you know what is going to happen.
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With HD-DVD victory imminent, what does the future hold for the PS3?  Will Blu-Ray eventually become just a PS3 format?  How will it affect PS3 sales?zazoo4455

Wow that must have some really good stuff where you live, because you must be on something for you to say it is imminent that HD-DVD has won or will win..........please give me your source or your supplier!!

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With HD-DVD victory imminent, what does the future hold for the PS3?  Will Blu-Ray eventually become just a PS3 format?  How will it affect PS3 sales?zazoo4455
what do you mean imminent? where is your proof? i dont see it..... plz if you're gonna say something like this back it up because it just makes you sound dumb...
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It won't. People buying PS3's mainly want games, not movies.Israfel856
exactly. the average joe that doesn't care about games isn't going to buy a ps3 for the blu ray player
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Sony deservers all thats comming to them for all their dirty business practices. If blu-ray fails, it's almost a sure doom for the PS3 because the publicity that is going to come will be very negative. It will be labled as the console with the "obsolete" High Def dvd-player etc by the know-nothing journalists in the big media publications. Sony will HAVE TO take the blu-ray function out of the PS3 if it has any dreams of selling it to the public after blu-ray has failed.

Sony simply gambled WAY too much on this new format and integrating it into the PS3, they should have made it an add-on which would have made it much cheaper.. but then again... SONY is GREEDY and they wanted to force blu-ray into your home... typical.
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Well then I guess Microsoft is just as greedy then. They will not let other companies make third party wireless accessories because of their proprietary wireless technology they use on the Xbox 360. MICROSOFT IS GREEDY!
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Blu-Ray is FAR from losing

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Yeah, I don't see a winner between Blu-Ray and HD-DVD coming anytime soon.  If HD-DVD would win it would hurt the PS3 majorly, and if Blu-Ray wins I don't see how it will really majorly help them either.   Either way, I'm fine with it.  If HD-DVD wins, well I already have a player with Xbox 360's add-on.  If HD-DVD loses, well then I still have the player, and now I have a whole library of movies that will have a sudden & great decrease in price.
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#25 x037leox
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MICROSOFT IS GREEDY! gmastersexay


Understatement of the year. Yes MS is greedy, we all know that, however they don't screw customers as blatantly as Sony... Rootkits, shutting down Lik-Sang etc...
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[QUOTE="bigmark64"][QUOTE="kyosukeugc"]dude, nothing is known for sure yet. please refer to the 4654987 threads on this subject.... Nothign is known f or sure on anything. And if BD does lose, well it'll still be a godo media storage format and work for the games...gmastersexay
yea thats what SEGA thought with the GD-Rom.

Sega's demise had nothing to do with the GD-Rom format.

Sure not directly related, but it added to development and manufacturing costs because the rest of the world was moving to DVD's.

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Probably help Sony a ton, because they would finally be able to release a non Blu-Ray version of the PS3 and sell it at a reasonable price.AfterShafter


No they can't, all their games are on Blu-ray discs.
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I too think it's a bit early to give the trophy to HD-DVD.  There are a lot of companies making hybrid players that may keep both formats viable.  Sony's really just starting to get Blu Ray out there and it is a superior format so we'll see what happens...

However, you do have to keep Beta Max in mind when talking about this, so assuming Sony does lose the format war, those Blu Ray discs may end up being too expensive to keep producing.  And with most cross-platform games most likely never exceeding the 360's DVD 9 capacity, I think Sony may abandon the format and switch to producing DVD 9 games, which the PS3 is still capable of using.  The bad thing about all of this is that whether they switch to DVD 9 or not, Sony will have to keep putting the Blu Ray drives in all of the PS3's since there are games now that use it.  This will keep the system's cost high and therefore, the price probably won't drop anytime soon.  That's gonna put the 360 on a pretty level playing field with the PS3, and it would certainly make things interesting.

Bottom line, it wasn't a good move on Sony's part...a little too risky for my taste.  But who knows, it may pay off in the end.

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[QUOTE="zazoo4455"]With HD-DVD victory imminent, what does the future hold for the PS3?  Will Blu-Ray eventually become just a PS3 format?  How will it affect PS3 sales?V_Zarnold_N
what do you mean imminent? where is your proof? i dont see it..... plz if you're gonna say something like this back it up because it just makes you sound dumb...

"you are on the way to destruction"? "you have no chance to survive make your time"? "all your Movie suport are belong to M$" you pick one... i'm bored :S
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[QUOTE="gmastersexay"] MICROSOFT IS GREEDY! x037leox


Understatement of the year. Yes MS is greedy, we all know that, however they don't screw customers as blatantly as Sony... Rootkits, shutting down Lik-Sang etc...



A company that is greedy?! Who would have thought it!

:roll:
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#31 zazoo4455
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Sony's really just starting to get Blu Ray out there and it is a superior format so we'll see what happens...

sophospeare


Blu-ray is in no way, shape, or form superior to HD-DVD.
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I too think it's a bit early to give the trophy to HD-DVD. There are a lot of companies making hybrid players that may keep both formats viable. Sony's really just starting to get Blu Ray out there and it is a superior format so we'll see what happens...

However, you do have to keep Beta Max in mind when talking about this, so assuming Sony does lose the format war, those Blu Ray discs may end up being too expensive to keep producing. And with most cross-platform games most likely never exceeding the 360's DVD 9 capacity, I think Sony may abandon the format and switch to producing DVD 9 games, which the PS3 is still capable of using. The bad thing about all of this is that whether they switch to DVD 9 or not, Sony will have to keep putting the Blu Ray drives in all of the PS3's since there are games now that use it. This will keep the system's cost high and therefore, the price probably won't drop anytime soon. That's gonna put the 360 on a pretty level playing field with the PS3, and it would certainly make things interesting.

Bottom line, it wasn't a good move on Sony's part...a little too risky for my taste. But who knows, it may pay off in the end.

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You’re right I never thought of that. Sony will be in a really bad situation if Blu-ray fails. The only logical thing to do would be to take out the function on it’s future PS3s to decrease the cost… but dam..you’re right, those new ones will not be able to play the blu-ray games that are out now. They would have to put some sort of disclaimer on the new PS3s stating they cannot play blu-ray games. Messy messy messy, I doubt the consumer’s are going to even try to attempt to deal with that.

 

 

P.s. Does anybody know how much how much the blu-ray function adds to the PS3s price?


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HD-DVD is far from winning. in fact the winner still looks more likely to be Blu-Ray.PS3OwnsYou
wow, you dont read do you? HD DVD is outselling blu ray by a large margin. there are more titles to choose from on HD DVD. more studio support for blu ray, but the studio's like disney said they wont make any movies for blu ray until they know who will win the format war, so they back it, but wont use it yet. makes a lot of sense eh? HDVD HAS more movies to choose from, cheaper price, selling more players than BLU RAY.
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[QUOTE="AcidTWister"]I didn't realize its victory was imminent. What movies/games does HD-DVD have coming out to combat Casino Royale and Spider Man 3? Not to mention the fact that Sony Pictures made the highest gross this year. In fact, they did so well this year, they actually managed to break the last record, which was also set by them, in 2002. Highest gross = more people wanting to see their movies = more potential blu-ray customers. It's not over yet.

I love how everyone just ignores the most logical comment in this thread. Well said.
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Here's a quick rundown based off of Boxofficemojo, naming the studios of the top 20 highest grossing movies this year, and which formats those movies will be going to.

1. Disney (Multiplat)
2. Disney (Multiplat)
3. Fox (Bluray)
4. Sony (Bluray)
5. WB (Multiplat)
6. Fox (Bluray)
7. Paramount Dreamworks (Multiplat)
8. Sony (Bluray)
9. WB (Multiplat)
10. Sony/Columbia (Bluray)

Stop here for a second. In the top ten movies this year, HD-DVD only gets no exclusives, Bluray gets five. Moving on.

11. Paramount (Multiplat)
12. Sony (Blu-ray)
13. Fox (Bluray)
14. Fox (Bluray)
15. Universal (HD-DVD)
16. WB (Multiplat)
17. Weinstein (HD-DVD)
18. Paramount (Multiplat)
19. Universal (HD-DVD)
20. Sony (Bluray)

Source

Even in the last half, Bluray, STILL has more exclusives. Just as the console wars go, the format wars follow the same rules. You cannot determine a winner within the first year. In the next 6 months, or so, HD-DVD's only going to have 3 exclusive top 20 movies. While Blu-ray gets 9.

Not to mention the games that are also coming out on Blu-ray that HD-DVD doesn't even have a gaming format to compete with. Tell me, how do Blu-ray software sales look when compared to HD-DVD, and including both movies AND games? And how will they look next fall?

Again, this thing hasn't even begun.
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Here's a quick rundown based off of Boxofficemojo, naming the studios of the top 20 highest grossing movies this year, and which formats those movies will be going to.

1. Disney (Multiplat)
2. Disney (Multiplat)
3. Fox (Bluray)
4. Sony (Bluray)
5. WB (Multiplat)
6. Fox (Bluray)
7. Paramount Dreamworks (Multiplat)
8. Sony (Bluray)
9. WB (Multiplat)
10. Sony/Columbia (Bluray)

Stop here for a second. In the top ten movies this year, HD-DVD only gets no exclusives, Bluray gets five. Moving on.

11. Paramount (Multiplat)
12. Sony (Blu-ray)
13. Fox (Bluray)
14. Fox (Bluray)
15. Universal (HD-DVD)
16. WB (Multiplat)
17. Weinstein (HD-DVD)
18. Paramount (Multiplat)
19. Universal (HD-DVD)
20. Sony (Bluray)

Source

Even in the last half, Bluray, STILL has more exclusives. Just as the console wars go, the format wars follow the same rules. You cannot determine a winner within the first year. In the next 6 months, or so, HD-DVD's only going to have 3 exclusive top 20 movies. While Blu-ray gets 9.

Not to mention the games that are also coming out on Blu-ray that HD-DVD doesn't even have a gaming format to compete with. Tell me, how do Blu-ray software sales look when compared to HD-DVD, and including both movies AND games? And how will they look next fall?

Again, this thing hasn't even begun.
AcidTWister

that's exactly what i read,, bd is supported (or to be) by more studios than hd-dvd,, i dont know how this OP say hd-dvd winning is imminent   :D

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Here's a quick rundown based off of Boxofficemojo, naming the studios of the top 20 highest grossing movies this year, and which formats those movies will be going to.

1. Disney (Multiplat)
2. Disney (Multiplat)
3. Fox (Bluray)
4. Sony (Bluray)
5. WB (Multiplat)
6. Fox (Bluray)
7. Paramount Dreamworks (Multiplat)
8. Sony (Bluray)
9. WB (Multiplat)
10. Sony/Columbia (Bluray)

Stop here for a second. In the top ten movies this year, HD-DVD only gets no exclusives, Bluray gets five. Moving on.

11. Paramount (Multiplat)
12. Sony (Blu-ray)
13. Fox (Bluray)
14. Fox (Bluray)
15. Universal (HD-DVD)
16. WB (Multiplat)
17. Weinstein (HD-DVD)
18. Paramount (Multiplat)
19. Universal (HD-DVD)
20. Sony (Bluray)

Source

Even in the last half, Bluray, STILL has more exclusives. Just as the console wars go, the format wars follow the same rules. You cannot determine a winner within the first year. In the next 6 months, or so, HD-DVD's only going to have 3 exclusive top 20 movies. While Blu-ray gets 9.

Not to mention the games that are also coming out on Blu-ray that HD-DVD doesn't even have a gaming format to compete with. Tell me, how do Blu-ray software sales look when compared to HD-DVD, and including both movies AND games? And how will they look next fall?

Again, this thing hasn't even begun.
AcidTWister


What a load of cr*p! Go to any store and you will see far more movies on HD-DVD! Yeah, like somehow that is going to magically change, right? Just like the Cell magically changed gaming with it's muddy textures. :roll:
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[QUOTE="AcidTWister"]Here's a quick rundown based off of Boxofficemojo, naming the studios of the top 20 highest grossing movies this year, and which formats those movies will be going to.

1. Disney (Multiplat)
2. Disney (Multiplat)
3. Fox (Bluray)
4. Sony (Bluray)
5. WB (Multiplat)
6. Fox (Bluray)
7. Paramount Dreamworks (Multiplat)
8. Sony (Bluray)
9. WB (Multiplat)
10. Sony/Columbia (Bluray)

Stop here for a second. In the top ten movies this year, HD-DVD only gets no exclusives, Bluray gets five. Moving on.

11. Paramount (Multiplat)
12. Sony (Blu-ray)
13. Fox (Bluray)
14. Fox (Bluray)
15. Universal (HD-DVD)
16. WB (Multiplat)
17. Weinstein (HD-DVD)
18. Paramount (Multiplat)
19. Universal (HD-DVD)
20. Sony (Bluray)

Source

Even in the last half, Bluray, STILL has more exclusives. Just as the console wars go, the format wars follow the same rules. You cannot determine a winner within the first year. In the next 6 months, or so, HD-DVD's only going to have 3 exclusive top 20 movies. While Blu-ray gets 9.

Not to mention the games that are also coming out on Blu-ray that HD-DVD doesn't even have a gaming format to compete with. Tell me, how do Blu-ray software sales look when compared to HD-DVD, and including both movies AND games? And how will they look next fall?

Again, this thing hasn't even begun.
zazoo4455


What a load of cr*p! Go to any store and you will see far more movies on HD-DVD! Yeah, like somehow that is going to magically change, right? Just like the Cell magically changed gaming with it's muddy textures. :roll:

You must've not been reading. These are the movies that came out this year. Meaning, these are the movies that will BE coming out NEXT year. It's not a load of crap, it's the truth.
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#39 MattBrian
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MAJOR COMPANIES ARE BACKING BLU-RAY...won't loose anytime soon





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Mitsubishi Electric
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Sun Microsystems
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Thomson
Twentieth Century Fox
Walt Disney
Warner Bros.

 

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Adobe Systems
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Aplix Corporation
ArcSoft, Inc.
ATI Technologies Inc.
Atmel Corporation
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Canon Inc.
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Coding Technologies GmbH
Cryptography Research Inc.
CyberLink Corp.
DATARIUS Technologies GmbH
DCA Inc.
Deluxe Media Services Inc.
Dolby Laboratories Inc.
DTS, Inc.
Electronic Arts Inc.
Esmertec
Fuji Photo Film Co. Ltd.
Fujitsu Ltd.
Gibson Guitar Corp.
Horizon Semiconductor
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InterVideo Inc.
Kenwood Corporation
Lionsgate Entertainment
LITE-ON IT Corporation
LSI Logic
MediaTek Inc.
Meridian Audio Ltd.
Metta Technology
Mitsubishi Kagaku Media Co.Ltd.
Mitsui Chemicals Inc.
Moser Baer India Limited
NEC Electronics Corporation
Nero
Optodisc Technology Corporation
Paramount Pictures Corporation
Pixela Corporation
Prodisc Technology Inc.
Pulstec Industrial Co., Ltd.
Ricoh Co., Ltd.
Ritek Corporation
ShibaSoku Co. Ltd.
Sigma Designs Inc.
Sonic Solutions
Sonopress
Sony BMG Music Entertainment
ST Microelectronics
Sunext
Taiyo Yuden Co., Ltd.,
Texas Instruments, Inc.
Universal Music Group
Victor Company of Japan, Ltd.
Visionare Corporation
Zentek Technology Japan, Inc.
ZOOtech Ltd.
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Daewoo Electronics Corporation
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Funai Electric Co., Ltd.
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Lauda Co. Ltd.
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Linn Products Ltd.
LINTEC Corporation
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Must Technology Co., Ltd.
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Netflix Inc.
Newtech Infosystems Inc.
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NTT Electronics Corporation
nVidia Corporation
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Omnibus Japan Inc.
Onkyo Corporation
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OPT Corporation
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Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
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Dr. Schwab Inspection Technology GmbH
Shinano Kenshi Co. Ltd.
Singulus Technologies
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Tao Group Limited
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THX Ltd.
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Toho Company, Ltd.
Toppan Printing Co., Ltd.
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UmeDisc Ltd.
Vivendi Universal Games
Yamaha Corporation
Yokogawa Electric Corporation
1K Studios, LLC

The beat goes on...now if these companies didn't suppot the Blu-Ray Sony would be up the creek...but these companies
have invested money, research and time into the product already,  so obviously they know something we/you don't...
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[QUOTE="zazoo4455"][QUOTE="AcidTWister"]Here's a quick rundown based off of Boxofficemojo, naming the studios of the top 20 highest grossing movies this year, and which formats those movies will be going to.

1. Disney (Multiplat)
2. Disney (Multiplat)
3. Fox (Bluray)
4. Sony (Bluray)
5. WB (Multiplat)
6. Fox (Bluray)
7. Paramount Dreamworks (Multiplat)
8. Sony (Bluray)
9. WB (Multiplat)
10. Sony/Columbia (Bluray)

Stop here for a second. In the top ten movies this year, HD-DVD only gets no exclusives, Bluray gets five. Moving on.

11. Paramount (Multiplat)
12. Sony (Blu-ray)
13. Fox (Bluray)
14. Fox (Bluray)
15. Universal (HD-DVD)
16. WB (Multiplat)
17. Weinstein (HD-DVD)
18. Paramount (Multiplat)
19. Universal (HD-DVD)
20. Sony (Bluray)

Source

Even in the last half, Bluray, STILL has more exclusives. Just as the console wars go, the format wars follow the same rules. You cannot determine a winner within the first year. In the next 6 months, or so, HD-DVD's only going to have 3 exclusive top 20 movies. While Blu-ray gets 9.

Not to mention the games that are also coming out on Blu-ray that HD-DVD doesn't even have a gaming format to compete with. Tell me, how do Blu-ray software sales look when compared to HD-DVD, and including both movies AND games? And how will they look next fall?

Again, this thing hasn't even begun.
AcidTWister


What a load of cr*p! Go to any store and you will see far more movies on HD-DVD! Yeah, like somehow that is going to magically change, right? Just like the Cell magically changed gaming with it's muddy textures. :roll:

You must've not been reading. These are the movies that came out this year. Meaning, these are the movies that will BE coming out NEXT year. It's not a load of crap, it's the truth.



Sure it is.  Just like the Cell was the "truth" :roll:

Simple equation:  far more movies on HD-DVD this year = far more movies on HD-DVD next year
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[QUOTE="AcidTWister"][QUOTE="zazoo4455"][QUOTE="AcidTWister"]Here's a quick rundown based off of Boxofficemojo, naming the studios of the top 20 highest grossing movies this year, and which formats those movies will be going to.

1. Disney (Multiplat)
2. Disney (Multiplat)
3. Fox (Bluray)
4. Sony (Bluray)
5. WB (Multiplat)
6. Fox (Bluray)
7. Paramount Dreamworks (Multiplat)
8. Sony (Bluray)
9. WB (Multiplat)
10. Sony/Columbia (Bluray)

Stop here for a second. In the top ten movies this year, HD-DVD only gets no exclusives, Bluray gets five. Moving on.

11. Paramount (Multiplat)
12. Sony (Blu-ray)
13. Fox (Bluray)
14. Fox (Bluray)
15. Universal (HD-DVD)
16. WB (Multiplat)
17. Weinstein (HD-DVD)
18. Paramount (Multiplat)
19. Universal (HD-DVD)
20. Sony (Bluray)

Source

Even in the last half, Bluray, STILL has more exclusives. Just as the console wars go, the format wars follow the same rules. You cannot determine a winner within the first year. In the next 6 months, or so, HD-DVD's only going to have 3 exclusive top 20 movies. While Blu-ray gets 9.

Not to mention the games that are also coming out on Blu-ray that HD-DVD doesn't even have a gaming format to compete with. Tell me, how do Blu-ray software sales look when compared to HD-DVD, and including both movies AND games? And how will they look next fall?

Again, this thing hasn't even begun.
zazoo4455


What a load of cr*p! Go to any store and you will see far more movies on HD-DVD! Yeah, like somehow that is going to magically change, right? Just like the Cell magically changed gaming with it's muddy textures. :roll:

You must've not been reading. These are the movies that came out this year. Meaning, these are the movies that will BE coming out NEXT year. It's not a load of crap, it's the truth.



Sure it is. Just like the Cell was the "truth" :roll:

Simple equation: far more movies on HD-DVD this year = far more movies on HD-DVD next year

Except that HD-DVD has been out longer, and has had more time to get more movies out. More movies in production for Blu-ray than HD-DVD = more movies next year on Blu-ray.
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[QUOTE="AcidTWister"]I didn't realize its victory was imminent. What movies/games does HD-DVD have coming out to combat Casino Royale and Spider Man 3?

Please. Casino Royale and Spider Man 3? your idea of Truely brilliant films is jaded. HD-DVD has (just to name 2 films that are better) Goodfellas and V for Vendetta (although i haven;t seen Spider Man 3, i assume V is better as its a better film than the other spider man films)
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[QUOTE="AcidTWister"]I didn't realize its victory was imminent. What movies/games does HD-DVD have coming out to combat Casino Royale and Spider Man 3? Not to mention the fact that Sony Pictures made the highest gross this year. In fact, they did so well this year, they actually managed to break the last record, which was also set by them, in 2002. Highest gross = more people wanting to see their movies = more potential blu-ray customers. It's not over yet.

i didn't realized that casino royale would'nt be on dvd:roll:, oh wait it will, can hd-dvd read dvds, yes they can
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[QUOTE="zazoo4455"][QUOTE="AcidTWister"][QUOTE="zazoo4455"][QUOTE="AcidTWister"]Here's a quick rundown based off of Boxofficemojo, naming the studios of the top 20 highest grossing movies this year, and which formats those movies will be going to.

1. Disney (Multiplat)
2. Disney (Multiplat)
3. Fox (Bluray)
4. Sony (Bluray)
5. WB (Multiplat)
6. Fox (Bluray)
7. Paramount Dreamworks (Multiplat)
8. Sony (Bluray)
9. WB (Multiplat)
10. Sony/Columbia (Bluray)

Stop here for a second. In the top ten movies this year, HD-DVD only gets no exclusives, Bluray gets five. Moving on.

11. Paramount (Multiplat)
12. Sony (Blu-ray)
13. Fox (Bluray)
14. Fox (Bluray)
15. Universal (HD-DVD)
16. WB (Multiplat)
17. Weinstein (HD-DVD)
18. Paramount (Multiplat)
19. Universal (HD-DVD)
20. Sony (Bluray)

Source

Even in the last half, Bluray, STILL has more exclusives. Just as the console wars go, the format wars follow the same rules. You cannot determine a winner within the first year. In the next 6 months, or so, HD-DVD's only going to have 3 exclusive top 20 movies. While Blu-ray gets 9.

Not to mention the games that are also coming out on Blu-ray that HD-DVD doesn't even have a gaming format to compete with. Tell me, how do Blu-ray software sales look when compared to HD-DVD, and including both movies AND games? And how will they look next fall?

Again, this thing hasn't even begun.
AcidTWister


What a load of cr*p! Go to any store and you will see far more movies on HD-DVD! Yeah, like somehow that is going to magically change, right? Just like the Cell magically changed gaming with it's muddy textures. :roll:

You must've not been reading. These are the movies that came out this year. Meaning, these are the movies that will BE coming out NEXT year. It's not a load of crap, it's the truth.



Sure it is. Just like the Cell was the "truth" :roll:

Simple equation: far more movies on HD-DVD this year = far more movies on HD-DVD next year

Except that HD-DVD has been out longer, and has had more time to get more movies out. More movies in production for Blu-ray than HD-DVD = more movies next year on Blu-ray.




there's a system that's out heading down this path soon too btw....
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More movies in production for Blu-ray than HD-DVD = more movies next year on Blu-ray.AcidTWister


Keep dreaming.
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Wow , Sony >>> Universal in 2006. And if fox stays exclusive (assuming they are from the post  )for a while it could spell doom for HD- DVD.


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[QUOTE="AcidTWister"]More movies in production for Blu-ray than HD-DVD = more movies next year on Blu-ray.zazoo4455


Keep dreaming.

Keep denying it.
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#48 zazoo4455
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Also HD-DVDs come with DVD format on the other side of the disk, and Blu-Ray disks DO NOT.  That is a HUGE BLOW to Blu-Ray.

HD-DVD victory is imminent.
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MICROSOFT IS GREEDY! gmastersexay


Understatement of the year. Yes MS is greedy, we all know that, however they don't screw customers as blatantly as Sony... Rootkits, shutting down Lik-Sang etc...

I still don't see how its dirty that Sony had them shut down. This was a company that was selling PS3s and not abiding by the regulations that Sony set on selling these. They were selling to regions that Sony specifically said not to sell to. If anything, Lik-Sang was being dirty, and they got caught. It is their fault. What would you do if you ran a business and someone decided to play around with your rules? Would you just let them, or would yo do something about it. Don't be ignorant.



Please. Casino Royale and Spider Man 3? your idea of Truely brilliant films is jaded.

HD-DVD has (just to name 2 films that are better) Goodfellas and V for Vendetta (although i haven;t seen Spider Man 3, i assume V is better as its a better film than the other spider man films)x037leox


Its not about putting out brilliant movies in the sense that the movies themselves were critically acclaimed. If that's the case, whichever format releases Citizen Kane will automatically win. Its about releasing movies that are POPULAR and that consumers will want to buy because they are ENTERTAINING.

Also HD-DVD players play DVD also, and Blu-Ray players DO NOT.  This is a HUGE BLOW to Blu-Ray players.

HD-DVD victory is imminent.
zazoo4455


BluRay players do play DVDs, I don't know what you're talking about.  The PS3 plays DVDs just fine, so that is a false statement.  Do some research before posting for crying out loud!

All this said, this format race could be a nasty one, and quit honestly I am not sure that there actually will be a winner. They may both coexist until the next format comes out. There is just so much backing for both formats by so many great companies.
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Also HD-DVD players play DVD also, and Blu-Ray players DO NOT. This is a HUGE BLOW to Blu-Ray players.

HD-DVD victory is imminent.
zazoo4455



YOU SIR ARE OWNED
...please read and don't spit out foolish facts