With the ps3 being breached does this mean we can expect more console sales?

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#1 revolution2k6
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im talking hardware, does this mean that people who diddnt want a ps3 before will want one now because of the piracy? clearly software will take a beating but shouldnt hardware increase?

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i dont think it will effect software that much... 1. Wii/360 titles still sell in the millions 2. People are gonna think twice about pirating because of the whole online infrastructure (i know i wouldnt pirate it at the risk of banning my account, whereas i didnt have to worry about that for the past 2 gens :P )
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[QUOTE="campzor"]i dont think it will effect software that much... 1. Wii/360 titles still sell in the millions 2. People are gonna think twice about pirating because of the whole online infrastructure (i know i wouldnt pirate it at the risk of banning my account, whereas i didnt have to worry about that for the past 2 gens :P )

ill personally chose to not mod my ps3, simply cuz i find i enjoy games more when i pay for it.
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[QUOTE="revolution2k6"][QUOTE="campzor"]i dont think it will effect software that much... 1. Wii/360 titles still sell in the millions 2. People are gonna think twice about pirating because of the whole online infrastructure (i know i wouldnt pirate it at the risk of banning my account, whereas i didnt have to worry about that for the past 2 gens :P )

ill personally chose to not mod my ps3, simply cuz i find i enjoy games more when i pay for it.

i think new hack can play pirated game without modchip
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some people will buy it for the homebrew and such, doubt it will be a huge amount though

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#7 HaloinventedFPS
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No, its too late for that now

PS1/PS2 were cracked early on, thats why they sold so many consoles, piracy does = more consoles sold, its a fact

but it will hurt software sales

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I myself will no longer pay stupid prices for games and even more greedy prices for DLC imo the game industry has got greedy so , if many game developers are leaving stuff out of games on purpose to sell it as DLC later i think its a joke and a rip off , so the ps3 being hacked is good in my book and i have no care if you think i am wrong , you carry on paying for a game that you finish in 2 days , the only piracy is the greed of some of these hardware and software company's

Bluffdemon

oh look, another self important consumer who thinks he's entitled to everything and anything for free.

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I myself will no longer pay stupid prices for games and even more greedy prices for DLC imo the game industry has got greedy so , if many game developers are leaving stuff out of games on purpose to sell it as DLC later i think its a joke and a rip off , so the ps3 being hacked is good in my book and i have no care if you think i am wrong , you carry on paying for a game that you finish in 2 days , the only piracy is the greed of some of these hardware and software company's

Bluffdemon
Excuses to pirate?
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#14 Stinger78
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im talking hardware, does this mean that people who diddnt want a ps3 before will want one now because of the piracy? clearly software will take a beating but shouldnt hardware increase?

revolution2k6
There's no clear way to tell whether people bought a system to play "backups" unless they come right out and say it. Keep in mind it is possible to do the same thing on Wii and Xbox 360 - no system from this, or last-gen is immune to piracy.
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#15 Malta_1980
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Unfortunately piracy always brought more sales for consoles (in terms of units sold), I guess PS3 wont be an exception..

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#18 _VenomX
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Unfortunately piracy always brought more sales for consoles (in terms of units sold), I guess PS3 wont be an exception..

Malta_1980
But, It'll hurt the game devs so much losing money
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[QUOTE="revolution2k6"][QUOTE="campzor"]i dont think it will effect software that much... 1. Wii/360 titles still sell in the millions 2. People are gonna think twice about pirating because of the whole online infrastructure (i know i wouldnt pirate it at the risk of banning my account, whereas i didnt have to worry about that for the past 2 gens :P )badtaker
ill personally chose to not mod my ps3, simply cuz i find i enjoy games more when i pay for it.

i think new hack can play pirated game without modchip

The hack is the security key has been determined so the software only needs to be signed to be recognised as official software. No mode chip is required. Also as for banning from on line services as the software been used is recognised as official software it will be very hard to determine who is running illegal software. Hence why this hack is more severe and could be a huge problem for Sony.

Back to the original question, i believe that this could have a slight effect on hardware sales as the PS3 has be proved to be a very efficient at number crunching (also at media encoding), an excellent tool for education and scientific purposes. I have seen reports that linked PS3 make excellent and cheap super computers.

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#20 LastRambo341
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Definitely lesssoftware sales

That is the problem with Wii software sales

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#21 campzor
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Definitely lesssoftware sales

That is the problem with Wii software sales

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i dont understand.. people would pirate 3rd party games that dont sell well but would pay full price for the first party titles?
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I myself will no longer pay stupid prices for games and even more greedy prices for DLC imo the game industry has got greedy so , if many game developers are leaving stuff out of games on purpose to sell it as DLC later i think its a joke and a rip off , so the ps3 being hacked is good in my book and i have no care if you think i am wrong , you carry on paying for a game that you finish in 2 days , the only piracy is the greed of some of these hardware and software company's

Bluffdemon
while i agree with you but not buying a game would be better choice than supporting piracy
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#23 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

Unfortunately piracy always brought more sales for consoles (in terms of units sold), I guess PS3 wont be an exception..

_VenomX

But, It'll hurt the game devs so much losing money

I know, unfortunately the only ones that gain are the console manufacturers cause they sell more units... Luckily there are many other millions of gamers who dont support piracy and thanks to them (me included :p) and the money they spend on original titles make it possible for devs to make profits and invest money on new titles every generation of systems

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#24 revolution2k6
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[QUOTE="Bluffdemon"]

[QUOTE="FatCatPatRat"]

oh look, another self important consumer who thinks he's entitled to everything and anything for free.

FatCatPatRat

you can think what you want you wanna be a mug then be so i for one will not be

get over yourself. really.

fatcatpatrat, you really are a rat, to companys... really, check out zeitgeist, should enlighten you
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[QUOTE="_VenomX"][QUOTE="Bluffdemon"]

Look who's talking.. GTFO and start pirating. _VenomX

**** you prick

Grow up kid

both of you chill
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#26 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="LastRambo341"]

Definitely lesssoftware sales

That is the problem with Wii software sales

i dont understand.. people would pirate 3rd party games that dont sell well but would pay full price for the first party titles?

The thing with 1st party titles is that they have a much broader audience. Despite that, they still get pirated by millions of sources. I never support piracy (at least for games)
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#27 JohnF111
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Sure i'd expect this to happen... And if the hackers respect the hardware they will not release any custom firmware with ready-made pirating equipment so could be a nice bonus to Sony.
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I myself will no longer pay stupid prices for games and even more greedy prices for DLC imo the game industry has got greedy so , if many game developers are leaving stuff out of games on purpose to sell it as DLC later i think its a joke and a rip off , so the ps3 being hacked is good in my book and i have no care if you think i am wrong , you carry on paying for a game that you finish in 2 days , the only piracy is the greed of some of these hardware and software company's

Bluffdemon
Good job perpetuating publishers actions. Your actions are worse than what they do as it's stealing.
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[QUOTE="Bluffdemon"]

I myself will no longer pay stupid prices for games and even more greedy prices for DLC imo the game industry has got greedy so , if many game developers are leaving stuff out of games on purpose to sell it as DLC later i think its a joke and a rip off , so the ps3 being hacked is good in my book and i have no care if you think i am wrong , you carry on paying for a game that you finish in 2 days , the only piracy is the greed of some of these hardware and software company's

mD-

Good job perpetuating publishers actions. Your actions are worse than what they do as it's stealing.

Ofcourse its stealing i make no effort to defend it either , all i said was i refuse to pay greedy prices for games that game developers who know full well they are leaving stuff important content out of games that we pay for in the first place sometimes £34 £39 £44 per for a new game , then a few days later new DLC for that game is theree that really should have been in the game in the first place being asked to pay £2.99 £.499 £6.99 or even £9.99 is a joke and its pure greed and if i get away without paying for their greed the I me alone ( not telling anybody else to do what i do ) then that is my choice and i wont be going to bed at night worrying about what others think of me .

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[QUOTE="Bluffdemon"]

[QUOTE="mD-"][QUOTE="Bluffdemon"]

I myself will no longer pay stupid prices for games and even more greedy prices for DLC imo the game industry has got greedy so , if many game developers are leaving stuff out of games on purpose to sell it as DLC later i think its a joke and a rip off , so the ps3 being hacked is good in my book and i have no care if you think i am wrong , you carry on paying for a game that you finish in 2 days , the only piracy is the greed of some of these hardware and software company's

Good job perpetuating publishers actions. Your actions are worse than what they do as it's stealing.

Ofcourse its stealing i make no effort to defend it either , all i said was i refuse to pay greedy prices for games that game developers who know full well they are leaving stuff important content out of games that we pay for in the first place sometimes £34 £39 £44 per for a new game , then a few days later new DLC for that game is theree that really should have been in the game in the first place being asked to pay £2.99 £.499 £6.99 or even £9.99 is a joke and its pure greed and if i get away without paying for their greed the I me alone ( not telling anybody else to do what i do ) then that is my choice and i wont be going to bed at night worrying about what others think of me .

If you didn't worry about what others thought of you then you wouldn't say a word, you directly care what others think by coming here and giving us your opinion on things. A person that doesn't care doesn't bother you bother so you obviously care whether that care is ceeded in the negative opinion others have of you, or the positive you still care.
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[QUOTE="Bluffdemon"]

[QUOTE="mD-"] Good job perpetuating publishers actions. Your actions are worse than what they do as it's stealing. WilliamRLBaker

Ofcourse its stealing i make no effort to defend it either , all i said was i refuse to pay greedy prices for games that game developers who know full well they are leaving stuff important content out of games that we pay for in the first place sometimes £34 £39 £44 per for a new game , then a few days later new DLC for that game is theree that really should have been in the game in the first place being asked to pay £2.99 £.499 £6.99 or even £9.99 is a joke and its pure greed and if i get away without paying for their greed the I me alone ( not telling anybody else to do what i do ) then that is my choice and i wont be going to bed at night worrying about what others think of me .

If you didn't worry about what others thought of you then you wouldn't say a word, you directly care what others think by coming here and giving us your opinion on things. A person that doesn't care doesn't bother you bother so you obviously care whether that care is ceeded in the negative opinion others have of you, or the positive you still care.

I wrote what i thought about the subject , not worrying about what you thought about it because it was ONLY MY OPINION is this not what a forum is about ?

since when were opinions banned then ?

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The only thing I wonder is if the hackers will be able to let people install Linux on the ps3 again.
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#33 Bluffdemon
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The only thing I wonder is if the hackers will be able to let people install Linux on the ps3 again. Miroku32

People are working on that in the background !

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[QUOTE="mD-"][QUOTE="Bluffdemon"]

I myself will no longer pay stupid prices for games and even more greedy prices for DLC imo the game industry has got greedy so , if many game developers are leaving stuff out of games on purpose to sell it as DLC later i think its a joke and a rip off , so the ps3 being hacked is good in my book and i have no care if you think i am wrong , you carry on paying for a game that you finish in 2 days , the only piracy is the greed of some of these hardware and software company's

Bluffdemon

Good job perpetuating publishers actions. Your actions are worse than what they do as it's stealing.

Ofcourse its stealing i make no effort to defend it either , all i said was i refuse to pay greedy prices for games that game developers who know full well they are leaving stuff important content out of games that we pay for in the first place sometimes £34 £39 £44 per for a new game , then a few days later new DLC for that game is theree that really should have been in the game in the first place being asked to pay £2.99 £.499 £6.99 or even £9.99 is a joke and its pure greed and if i get away without paying for their greed the I me alone ( not telling anybody else to do what i do ) then that is my choice and i wont be going to bed at night worrying about what others think of me .

Why dont you just stop buying games period if you beleive that games are a ripoff and the companies behind them are greedy, why pirate them?

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[QUOTE="Bluffdemon"]

I myself will no longer pay stupid prices for games and even more greedy prices for DLC imo the game industry has got greedy so , if many game developers are leaving stuff out of games on purpose to sell it as DLC later i think its a joke and a rip off , so the ps3 being hacked is good in my book and i have no care if you think i am wrong , you carry on paying for a game that you finish in 2 days , the only piracy is the greed of some of these hardware and software company's

badtaker
while i agree with you but not buying a game would be better choice than supporting piracy

This, if you're against it show it with your wallet and not by the number of downloads.
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The increase will be very very minute. The hack was, first and foremost, done for piracy (and then defended with "I don't condone piracy" bs), just like all hacks. The small minority of those who will now purchase a ps3 simply to "tinker" with it, won't even come close to the title wave of piracy coming.

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I myself will no longer pay stupid prices for games and even more greedy prices for DLC imo the game industry has got greedy so , if many game developers are leaving stuff out of games on purpose to sell it as DLC later i think its a joke and a rip off , so the ps3 being hacked is good in my book and i have no care if you think i am wrong , you carry on paying for a game that you finish in 2 days , the only piracy is the greed of some of these hardware and software company's

Bluffdemon

Ok, you don't want to pay the prices, then don't buy the game. Easy enough. Again, another lame defense to defend pirating. If everyone stole everything that they couldn't afford, or felt was too expensive...

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#38 Bluffdemon
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Where does it say in any of my posts i couldnt afford it ?

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#39 TheMoreYouOwn
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Where does it say in any of my posts i couldnt afford it ?

Bluffdemon

Read my entire post next time.

"Felt was too expensive..."

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I myself will no longer pay stupid prices for games and even more greedy prices for DLC imo the game industry has got greedy so , if many game developers are leaving stuff out of games on purpose to sell it as DLC later i think its a joke and a rip off , so the ps3 being hacked is good in my book and i have no care if you think i am wrong , you carry on paying for a game that you finish in 2 days , the only piracy is the greed of some of these hardware and software company's

Bluffdemon

Hey! We don't take kindly to people who pirate things 'round here...

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#41 Bluffdemon
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Just because i said it was expensive doesnt mean i can not afford it , i just choose not to pay stupid prices like you

I take it you enjoy twisting words to meet your own satisfaction

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[QUOTE="Bluffdemon"]

I myself will no longer pay stupid prices for games and even more greedy prices for DLC imo the game industry has got greedy so , if many game developers are leaving stuff out of games on purpose to sell it as DLC later i think its a joke and a rip off , so the ps3 being hacked is good in my book and i have no care if you think i am wrong , you carry on paying for a game that you finish in 2 days , the only piracy is the greed of some of these hardware and software company's

BigBoss154

Hey! We don't take kindly to people who pirate things 'round here...

who said i pirate i said i wont pay for stupid game prices and DLC and i said the ps3 hack was a good thing i also said if i could get away with it i would , does not mean to say I DO pirate , READ VERY CAREFULLY

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[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

[QUOTE="Bluffdemon"]

I myself will no longer pay stupid prices for games and even more greedy prices for DLC imo the game industry has got greedy so , if many game developers are leaving stuff out of games on purpose to sell it as DLC later i think its a joke and a rip off , so the ps3 being hacked is good in my book and i have no care if you think i am wrong , you carry on paying for a game that you finish in 2 days , the only piracy is the greed of some of these hardware and software company's

Bluffdemon

Hey! We don't take kindly to people who pirate things 'round here...

who said i pirate i said i wont pay for stupid game prices and DLC and i said the ps3 hack was a good thing i also said if i could get away with it i would , does not mean to say I DO pirate , READ VERY CAREFULLY

Game prices are actually cheaper now.
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#45 TheMoreYouOwn
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Just because i said it was expensive doesnt mean i can not afford it , i just choose not to pay stupid prices like you

I take it you enjoy twisting words to meet your own satisfaction

Bluffdemon

Ok. You're right . I misread. I read as though you were personally going to pirate because of the price.

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#46 Bluffdemon
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Bye Bye i am off now to play my legit ps3 with a legit copy of GT5

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[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

[QUOTE="Bluffdemon"]

I myself will no longer pay stupid prices for games and even more greedy prices for DLC imo the game industry has got greedy so , if many game developers are leaving stuff out of games on purpose to sell it as DLC later i think its a joke and a rip off , so the ps3 being hacked is good in my book and i have no care if you think i am wrong , you carry on paying for a game that you finish in 2 days , the only piracy is the greed of some of these hardware and software company's

Bluffdemon

Hey! We don't take kindly to people who pirate things 'round here...

who said i pirate i said i wont pay for stupid game prices and DLC and i said the ps3 hack was a good thing i also said if i could get away with it i would , does not mean to say I DO pirate , READ VERY CAREFULLY

The way you worded your first post seemed like it was heavily implying that you were going to start.

Edit your first post then, to avoid confusion.

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[QUOTE="Bluffdemon"]

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

Hey! We don't take kindly to people who pirate things 'round here...

MFDOOM1983

who said i pirate i said i wont pay for stupid game prices and DLC and i said the ps3 hack was a good thing i also said if i could get away with it i would , does not mean to say I DO pirate , READ VERY CAREFULLY

Game prices are actually cheaper now.

yeah and DLC are getting higher :P
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#49 clone01
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im talking hardware, does this mean that people who diddnt want a ps3 before will want one now because of the piracy? clearly software will take a beating but shouldnt hardware increase?

revolution2k6
its an interesting question. i wonder if hardware sales has any correlation with ease of piracy.
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[QUOTE="Bluffdemon"]

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

Hey! We don't take kindly to people who pirate things 'round here...

BigBoss154

who said i pirate i said i wont pay for stupid game prices and DLC and i said the ps3 hack was a good thing i also said if i could get away with it i would , does not mean to say I DO pirate , READ VERY CAREFULLY

The way you worded your first post seemed like it was heavily implying that you were going to start.

Edit your first post then, to avoid confusion.

Bluffdemon is kinda right about Dlc stuff beeing out of the game in order to buy them. Dlc such as stone prisoner comes to my mind. but Piracy should be banished to the depths of hell. when ew buy a game we pay the devs hard work. i like to contribute with my money to devs this way.