Without GamePass, Halo Infinite would be the hardest big budget $60 sell in recent memory.

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#51 sealionact
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@dabear: “ My point is, you don't see a bunch of lems creating threads about PS5 games; ”

Which games? 😎

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#52 hardwenzen
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@hardwenzen: If they are so stellar, why aren't you talking about them?

Are you serious? Most of your clan call me a Returnal spammer, and you want me to talk about the game even more? I will sound like that bot selling pr1nters we had on SW last year. Funny how pr1nters is a censored word on SW now. I hope they don't censor Returnal because of me😭

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#53 Pedro
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@hardwenzen said:
@dabear said:

@hardwenzen: If they are so stellar, why aren't you talking about them?

Are you serious? Most of your clan call me a Returnal spammer, and you want me to talk about the game even more? I will sound like that bot selling pr1nters we had on SW last year. Funny how pr1nters is a censored word on SW now. I hope they don't censor Returnal because of me😭

The man gave you permission to talk about it even more.

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#54 hardwenzen
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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:
@dabear said:

@hardwenzen: If they are so stellar, why aren't you talking about them?

Are you serious? Most of your clan call me a Returnal spammer, and you want me to talk about the game even more? I will sound like that bot selling pr1nters we had on SW last year. Funny how pr1nters is a censored word on SW now. I hope they don't censor Returnal because of me😭

The man gave you permission to talk about it even more.

Excellent news, but its not like i was gonna stop, anyways😎

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#55 clone01
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sure

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#56 dabear
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@hardwenzen: So, you're saying Returnal is the only game on PS5? The library is that bad, huh?

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#57 hardwenzen
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@hardwenzen: So, you're saying Returnal is the only game on PS5? The library is that bad, huh?

Le Moving Of Le Goal Post.

Try harder.

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#58 dabear
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@hardwenzen: I'm just saying, all I see you doing is complaining about Microsoft games. I guess you talked about Retutnal a lot, but I didn't pay that much attention to that game; other than the crapoy sales numbers.

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#59 hardwenzen
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@hardwenzen: I'm just saying, all I see you doing is complaining about Microsoft games. I guess you talked about Retutnal a lot, but I didn't pay that much attention to that game; other than the crapoy sales numbers.

Well, let me refresh your memory, then. Returnal is an incredible game. A genre defining title that you will never experience. Why? Because you don't own a ps5, and this is a ps5 EXCLUSIVE. I would also like to mention the fact that this game got a magnificent 9/10 on gamespot and a beautiful 85 on meta. This really is the next generation Metroid we never got, nor will ever see from Nintendo because their systems are too damn outdated. This is also a game that has deleted my best pal I_P_Daily, which was a very sad day indeed. Of any games released this generation, nothing came close to frustrating lems as much as this game. It has done all of this while selling so poorly. Now imagine what will happen with their next game. Now that they're being 100% fueled by Sony, their next game migh simply obliterate lemmings. Ragnarok is coming, and i am not even talking about GoW.

But i won't derail the thread. This is about the $60 Infinite which offers zero value for you to ever consider buying.

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#60 DeadMan1290
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So much time and effort to prove useless fanboyism. Can't play Halo? Don't like Halo? Hate Xbox because you need to justify buying a console with a remake as their selling point? Whatever helps you sleep at night bro.

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#61 dabear
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@hardwenzen: It's an 85/100 game that no one played. I'm sure Halo will score that high, but regardless of what it scores, a lot morecthan 500k people will be playing it.

That's gotta suck for you.

Oh, and Metroid will sell 10x more than Returnal, too. That's gotta suck, too.

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#62 hardwenzen
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@dabear said:

@hardwenzen: It's an 85/100 game that no one played. I'm sure Halo will score that high, but regardless of what it scores, a lot morecthan 500k people will be playing it.

That's gotta suck for you.

Oh, and Metroid will sell 10x more than Returnal, too. That's gotta suck, too.

Flagship outselling a game from an indie dev? WOW! And you better forget about sales and be ready to damage control its poor numbers with GP because it won't do well. Dread looks like a game created for phones. Not important how it does when the gameplay and scores will be far behind Returnal.

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#63  Edited By dabear
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@hardwenzen: I said a lot more will be playing it. Unit sales don't mean a whole lot to a company that uses a subscription based model...

You justcgot through saying awesome Returnal is, then you downplay it as an "Indie game". Get your story straight.

BTW, revenue is everything to companies, not metacritic scores. A 7/10 game that generates millions is better than a 9/10 that loses money, from a company standpoint.

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#64  Edited By hardwenzen
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@dabear said:

@hardwenzen: I said a lot more will be playing it. Unit sales don't mean a whole lot to a company that uses a subscription based model...

You justcgot through saying awesome Returnal is, then you downplay it as an "Indie game". Get your story straight.

BTW, revenue is everything to companies, not metacritic scores. A 7/10 game that generates millions is better than a 9/10 that loses money, from a company standpoint.

Its a dudebro shooter. Of course more will play halo OR cod than Returnal🤦‍♂️

And i am glad you're indirectly expecting Infinite to score a 7/10 lol. That is where we at with the Halo franchise😭

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#65 Suddenly_Wasted
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Not really. I can take a Halo campaign over another AssCreed, Farcry, CoD etc

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#66 hardwenzen
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@Suddenly_Wasted said:

Not really. I can take a Halo campaign over another AssCreed, Farcry, CoD etc

Same. But that's like going from a 1 to a 2. When you compare it to the bottom of the barrel of the gaming industry, you will find some entertainment, even in Halo 5.

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#67 Djoffer123
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@hardwenzen: seriously man, are you trying to get to ghost4evers level of crappy threads?? You are better than this..

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#68 palasta
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For Microsoft Gaempazz is ultimate systemseller, the killer app of killer apps. Everything else has become secondary. Enjoy stagnation.

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#69 HalcyonScarlet
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@hardwenzen said:

1- The game is made by 343i. Their last two mainline Halo games were an abomination. They simply don't understand Halo, which is the cold hard truth many will refuse to accept because they know damn well they're stuck with them, anyways.

The misconception is that Bungie were great with Halo. They were inconsistent.

Halo CE was good but very repetitive level design. They'd just literally copy and paste an area or corridor over and over

Halo 2 was better.

Halo 3 was Amazing. Loved it.

ODST was good.

Reach was boring. I like to play games in order, but I can't bring myself to progress in reach.

Lets not pretend Bungie are amazing with Halo. They weren't consistently banging out amazing Halo games either.

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#70 HalcyonScarlet
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6- The beta ran like shit on pc, even if you owned a 3070/3080. Now, i know what most will say "bu bu but it was a beta. it will improve!". Sorry to break it to you, but a beta, in most cases, are nothing else but a demo these days. Most improvements you will see is in the balance of the game, not performance. And if the game has trouble reaching 60fps on a 3080 at launch, they will make a bunch of blog posts trying to calm everyone down and promise better optimization, etc. Like an additional year wasn't enough for that. Imagine how the state the game would've been if it launched last year LOL. 41fps on a 3080 ez pz.

Full of assumptions. Firstly why wouldn't they improve performance? Secondly, they're going to be working on this Halo game for the next 10 years. For example Ray Tracing coming next year. Of course they're going to work on performance.

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#71 hardwenzen
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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:

6- The beta ran like shit on pc, even if you owned a 3070/3080. Now, i know what most will say "bu bu but it was a beta. it will improve!". Sorry to break it to you, but a beta, in most cases, are nothing else but a demo these days. Most improvements you will see is in the balance of the game, not performance. And if the game has trouble reaching 60fps on a 3080 at launch, they will make a bunch of blog posts trying to calm everyone down and promise better optimization, etc. Like an additional year wasn't enough for that. Imagine how the state the game would've been if it launched last year LOL. 41fps on a 3080 ez pz.

Full of assumptions. Firstly why wouldn't they improve performance? Secondly, they're going to be working on this Halo game for the next 10 years. For example Ray Tracing coming next year. Of course they're going to work on performance.

Because they did eveything they could? lol question.

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#72 dabear
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@hardwenzen said:
@dabear said:

@hardwenzen: I said a lot more will be playing it. Unit sales don't mean a whole lot to a company that uses a subscription based model...

You justcgot through saying awesome Returnal is, then you downplay it as an "Indie game". Get your story straight.

BTW, revenue is everything to companies, not metacritic scores. A 7/10 game that generates millions is better than a 9/10 that loses money, from a company standpoint.

Its a dudebro shooter. Of course more will play halo OR cod than Returnal🤦‍♂️

And i am glad you're indirectly expecting Infinite to score a 7/10 lol. That is where we at with the Halo franchise😭

I'm expecting Halo to score a 9/10 - did I not post that earlier with Pedro?

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#73 pyro1245
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I know TC loves hyperbole..... but I gotta keep reminding y'all that 2K exists.

NBA 2K21 for PS5 is $70, with all the bugs and microtransactions you would expect from a garbage-tier publisher.

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#74 NNoyingHusband
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@hardwenzen: it wasn’t a beta, it was a tech preview of a 2 month old build, which is pre beta. The beta has not happened yet.

I don’t know anyone who had major issues, PC or Xbox. People enjoyed the tech preview. It was a hit from every Halo fan I could find through several channels I follow.

Yes, 343i does not have a great track record, it’s true, but I think this go around it’ll be different. The MP appears to be like it’ll be a hit. Cross play at launch, Battle Pass like no one else, a lot of customization, many modes, Battle Royale rumored…it’s shaping up great. Can’t wait, it’s gonna crush Cows.

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#75 hardwenzen
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@dabear said:
@hardwenzen said:
@dabear said:

@hardwenzen: I said a lot more will be playing it. Unit sales don't mean a whole lot to a company that uses a subscription based model...

You justcgot through saying awesome Returnal is, then you downplay it as an "Indie game". Get your story straight.

BTW, revenue is everything to companies, not metacritic scores. A 7/10 game that generates millions is better than a 9/10 that loses money, from a company standpoint.

Its a dudebro shooter. Of course more will play halo OR cod than Returnal🤦‍♂️

And i am glad you're indirectly expecting Infinite to score a 7/10 lol. That is where we at with the Halo franchise😭

I'm expecting Halo to score a 9/10 - did I not post that earlier with Pedro?

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF. Be ready to be disappointed.

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#76  Edited By Litchie
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@hardwenzen said:

The glory days of Halo are long gone, and nobody at MS is talented enough to reboot the series like what Santa Monica did with GoW2018. It is what it is.

lol, yeah. I'd love to play a Halo with a zoomed in shoulder camera, lots of cutscenes, quicktime events and forced walking segments. Super fun.

If they manage to just have Masterchief in the game going pew pew with big guns in aliens faces, it'll probably be a better game than GoW 2018.

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#77 deactivated-67913f01c3174
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So pumped for this game. Already pre-ordered.

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#78 sonny2dap
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Halo 4 yep trash wasn't a fan.

Halo 5, campaign very underwhelming MP launched in a bad state eventually tuned to a competent and competitive arena shooter.

Infinite, fingers crossed the campaign delivers, with certain bungie alumni back on staff particularly Joe Staten I'm more confident than I otherwise would be, MP the test that was launched recently was very much a tech test far more than we normally see from such "beta's", the build invitee's had was months old and it came with a list of known issues so feedback would be more focussed on things that haven't already been addressed in the time since the build was put together, from what I played it certainly feels like 343 have a title that is their own but still feels very much like halo. I'm disappointed by the staggered release of features but I also understand infinite will be used to bring people in particularly with a marketing blitz going into December, the main vehicle for bringing players in and retaining them is going to be MP so despite my disappointment I understand the move from a business perspective.

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#79 dabear
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@hardwenzen: Maybe, I suppose it could score lower. But, given what I have seen, that how I think it will score.

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#80 BenjaminBanklin
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They're not even banking on Game Pass. It's all about the f2p now. They could probably give two shits about how the SP portion will be received as long as they can soak up MTX money (if people stay interested). And I can't be mad at them for doing this.

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#81 mrbojangles25
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It doesn't matter how good it is, it's Halo; it is going to sell a lot.

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#82  Edited By sheep99
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1st halo was so much fun

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#83 R4gn4r0k
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70 dollars for a DLC expansion pack

8 hour singleplayer

Cows: This is fine

60 dollars for an entirely new game

8-10 hour singleplayer

Cows: lmao, lemmings get ripped off big time

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#84 tdkmillsy
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Another day another lame thread.

You don't need to create a new thread to say the same old thing, just post in yesterdays thread and bring it to the top

Thats why you are getting bashed, hopefully you take the hint.

Stop attention seeking.

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#85 R4gn4r0k
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This thread ended the moment I replied.

Necro thread.

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#86 blaznwiipspman1
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LOL! hardwenzen, still continuing the hate against halo, more than an year and counting.

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#89 hardwenzen
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Who made this thread? Oh yea, the guy WHO KNEW it all.🤷‍♂️

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#90 tdkmillsy
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@hardwenzen said:

Who made this thread? Oh yea, the guy WHO KNEW it all.🤷‍♂️

Everyone look at meeeeee, I neeeeeeed the attention

Yes they said something to me.

I feel great now

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#91 hardwenzen
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@tdkmillsy said:
@hardwenzen said:

Who made this thread? Oh yea, the guy WHO KNEW it all.🤷‍♂️

Everyone look at meeeeee, I neeeeeeed the attention

Yes they said something to me.

I feel great now

I only need your attention because you own a ps5 box😊😊😊

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#92  Edited By Moistcarrot
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Halo 5 had great multiplayer, it was just a bad halo game.

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#93 Heil68
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@zerothehero said:

how is 343i still in business?

Lem's who hope their flagship game, hasn't gone into oblivion.

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#94 Pedro
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@R4gn4r0k said:

This thread ended the moment I replied.

Necro thread.

Your reply was /thread but for some reason, someone decided to revive it.😂

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#95  Edited By deactivated-67913f01c3174
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@moistcarrot said:

Halo 5 had great multiplayer, it was just a bad halo game.

Halo campaign game play was awesome. Never bothered with the MP though.

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#96 DaVillain  Moderator
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@tdkmillsy said:

Another day another lame thread.

You don't need to create a new thread to say the same old thing, just post in yesterdays thread and bring it to the top

Thats why you are getting bashed, hopefully you take the hint.

Stop attention seeking.

But why would you bump this 1yr old thread? For what? Never mind, I'm locking this.