Without Nintendo there would be no Playstation 3 or Xbox 360!

If Nintendo didn't bring back video games back in the 1980s, we wouldn't have had video games. If it weren't for Nintendo screwing SONY, there wouldn't be a Playstation 3, and if it weren't for the success of the video game industry, we wouldn't of had Microsoft try and cash in with the xbox. Overall, Nintendo is the reason you enjoy your Call of Duty or Skyrim, so how about some damn respect?

Old news, yo.

And debatable, as well.

I don't respect Nintendo.

It's just a company.What is there to respect?

Same goes for Sega !!!

Not to mention Atari.

I don't respect Nintendo.

It's just a company.What is there to respect?

freedomfreak

They saved the game industry... They ****ing innovate, look at all the games before the Nintendo. Do you really want there only to be games like Pong, Pacman, and centipede.

I would find it amusing to see people argue about foliage and resolution of Pacman games though.

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I don't respect Nintendo.

It's just a company.What is there to respect?

Banjo_Kongfooie

They saved the game industry... They ****ing innovate, look at all the games before the Nintendo. Do you really want there only to be games like Pong, Pacman, and centipede.

I would find it amusing to see people argue about foliage and resolution of Pacman games though.

They saved the game industry... They ****ing innovate, look at all the games before the Nintendo. Do you really want there only to be games like Pong, Pacman, and centipede.

I would find it amusing to see people argue about foliage and resolution of Pacman games though.

Banjo_Kongfooie

Wow bro. That's pretty fudging stupid.

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]I don't respect Nintendo. It's just a company.What is there to respect?Banjo_Kongfooie

The videogame market crashed. Nintendo entered it with a console that was attractive for consumers, both based on price and content, and brought it back. That's it. When Nintendo started mistreating developers and made poor decisions, the Playstation took their marketshare away because it was in the right position to do so. It could have been SEGA if they had gotten their act together, but Sony was there with the right content at the right time.

Being there with the right content at the right time is something to acknowledge. But at the same time, it could have been someone other than Nintendo or Sony - in time.

That is true.Ninty saved the industry after Atari helped destroy it.

That is true.Ninty saved the industry after Atari helped destroy it.

super600

Plus its undeniable that many genres started on the Nintendo platform.

Like the Wii or not you can not deny how much Nintendo has given to this industry.

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That is true.Ninty saved the industry after Atari helped destroy it.

Banjo_Kongfooie

Plus its undeniable that many genres started on the Nintendo platform.

Like the Wii or not you can not deny how much Nintendo has given to this industry.

That is true. I never tried the original nes because I wasn't born in the 80's, but I still appreciate what Ninty has done for the gaming industry in the last 30 years or so.

If Nintendo didn't bring back video games back in the 1980s, we wouldn't have had video games. If it weren't for Nintendo screwing SONY, there wouldn't be a Playstation 3, and if it weren't for the success of the video game industry, we wouldn't of had Microsoft try and cash in with the xbox. Overall, Nintendo is the reason you enjoy your Call of Duty or Skyrim, so how about some damn respect?

Second_Hokage

why would a respect the same company that rehashes the same games everytime. I swear nintendo fanboys are the worst, so sad all their games based on nostalgia.

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If Nintendo didn't bring back video games back in the 1980s, we wouldn't have had video games. If it weren't for Nintendo screwing SONY, there wouldn't be a Playstation 3, and if it weren't for the success of the video game industry, we wouldn't of had Microsoft try and cash in with the xbox. Overall, Nintendo is the reason you enjoy your Call of Duty or Skyrim, so how about some damn respect?

xCocoTheMonkeyx

why would a respect the same company that rehashes the same games everytime. I swear nintendo fanboys are the worst, so sad all their games based on nostalgia.

Most of the games they make are not rehased.SMG and SMG2 are most definetly nott rehased games.

If Nintendo didn't bring back video games back in the 1980s, we wouldn't have had video games.

Second_Hokage

I was playing plenty of video games after the crash.....On the computer and in the arcades. If Nintendo didn't do it somebody else would have.

Without Tesla their would be no Nintendo! :o

without nintendo there would be no motion gaming

*hops in time machine with a hammer*

Without Tesla their would be no Nintendo! :o

Bigboi500

wrong! without some guy in 15th century china, there would be no Nintendo.

If Nintendo didn't bring back video games back in the 1980s, we wouldn't have had video games. If it weren't for Nintendo screwing SONY, there wouldn't be a Playstation 3, and if it weren't for the success of the video game industry, we wouldn't of had Microsoft try and cash in with the xbox. Overall, Nintendo is the reason you enjoy your Call of Duty or Skyrim, so how about some damn respect?

Second_Hokage

N64's GPU SGI design team ->ArtX ->ATI -> AMD.

The first ArtX/ATI product was Radeon 9700. Info

if it wasnt for me and your mom, you would be aliveNengo_Flow

Ok...now what TC?

and if it was not for cheap beer and unclear instructions on condom packaging none of you guys would even exist to notice.

exactly how far down the rabbit hole do you want to go with this "if not for" game?

Yeah but without Sega and SNK there would be no hardcore games. So I would argue those comapnies are more important.

If Nintendo didn't bring back video games back in the 1980s, we wouldn't have had video games. If it weren't for Nintendo screwing SONY, there wouldn't be a Playstation 3, and if it weren't for the success of the video game industry, we wouldn't of had Microsoft try and cash in with the xbox. Overall, Nintendo is the reason you enjoy your Call of Duty or Skyrim, so how about some damn respect?

Second_Hokage

you would be playing PC, and if Atari wouldnt start the console gaming we wouldnt have console video gaming i dont know what you are trying to prove btw nintendo sucks DontBeHatin Love

If Nintendo didn't bring back video games back in the 1980s, we wouldn't have had video games. If it weren't for Nintendo screwing SONY, there wouldn't be a Playstation 3, and if it weren't for the success of the video game industry, we wouldn't of had Microsoft try and cash in with the xbox. Overall, Nintendo is the reason you enjoy your Call of Duty or Skyrim, so how about some damn respect?

Second_Hokage

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If Nintendo didn't bring back video games back in the 1980s, we wouldn't have had video games. If it weren't for Nintendo screwing SONY, there wouldn't be a Playstation 3, and if it weren't for the success of the video game industry, we wouldn't of had Microsoft try and cash in with the xbox. Overall, Nintendo is the reason you enjoy your Call of Duty or Skyrim, so how about some damn respect?

DontBeHatin1983

you would be playing PC, and if Atari wouldnt start the console gaming we wouldnt have console video gaming i dont know what you are trying to prove btw nintendo sucks DontBeHatin Love

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[QUOTE="Second_Hokage"]

If Nintendo didn't bring back video games back in the 1980s, we wouldn't have had video games. If it weren't for Nintendo screwing SONY, there wouldn't be a Playstation 3, and if it weren't for the success of the video game industry, we wouldn't of had Microsoft try and cash in with the xbox. Overall, Nintendo is the reason you enjoy your Call of Duty or Skyrim, so how about some damn respect?

cainetao11

you would be playing PC, and if Atari wouldnt start the console gaming we wouldnt have console video gaming i dont know what you are trying to prove btw nintendo sucks DontBeHatin Love

well as far as i know they where the 1st on the market that used cartage's and could be hocked up to the TV. a TV that incudes games is not a console which was 1st on the market

The videogame market crashed. Nintendo entered it with a console that was attractive for consumers, both based on price and content, and brought it back. That's it. When Nintendo started mistreating developers and made poor decisions, the Playstation took their marketshare away because it was in the right position to do so. It could have been SEGA if they had gotten their act together, but Sony was there with the right content at the right time.

Being there with the right content at the right time is something to acknowledge. But at the same time, it could have been someone other than Nintendo or Sony - in time.

hakanakumono

I don't think people are giving Ninty enough credit here. It's not simply a matter of being at the right place at the right time, but a matter of being at the right place at the right time with the right ideas! A lot of gamers seem to have forgotten the reason why the 1983 gaming industry crash happened in the first place, and what Nintendo did to prevent such a crash happening again.

The reason why Atari crashed the industry to the ground is because they completely lacked any form of quality assurance, which meant that the Atari 2600 was eventually flooded with too many poorly designed or badly programmed games. To prevent something like that happening again, Ninty introduced the the "Nintendo Seal of Quality", a form of quality assurance that assured Nintendo's customers that their products will be quality products, free from bugs and glitches, and approved by Nintendo before being released. This was achieved using a form of lock protection preventing unlicensed cartridges from working on the NES. This is pretty much the same methods used by all console manufacturers, including Sony & Microsoft, to this day.

And let's also not forget about Nintendo's hardware innovations still widely used by both Sony & Microsoft, including the NES's D-pad, Famicom Disk System's optical discs, SNES's four-button layout, N64's analog stick and force feedback, DS's touch-screen, Wii's motion controls, etc. And lastly, let's also not forget the Nintendo games that revolutionized the industry, such as Donkey Kong, Super Mario Bros, Legend of Zelda, Metroid, Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, etc.

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Atari didnt start console gamingDontBeHatin1983

well as far as i know they where the 1st on the market that used cartage's and could be hocked up to the TV. a TV that incudes games is not a console which was 1st on the market

No, they did not start console gaming. The first console on the market was the Magnavox Oddysey, released in 1972, the same year Atari released Pong in the arcades. Atari then released Home Pong in 1975.

As for the first console to use cartridges, it was the now largely forgotten Fairchild Channel F, which was released in 1976, a year before the Atari 2600. And even after its release, the 2600 didn't gain a clear lead over its competitors until they licensed Taito's Space Invaders. From then on, the Atari 2600 became a mainstream success and the rest is history... until the 1983 industry crash.

Nintendo does deserve credit. But that's over now. This topic is as meaningless as suggesting that Nintendo fans should all thank the videogame crash for happening, otherwise there wouldn't be Nintendo.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

I don't think people are giving Ninty enough credit here. It's not simply a matter of being at the right place at the right time, but a matter of being at the right place at the right time with the right ideas! A lot of gamers seem to have forgotten the reason why the 1983 gaming industry crash happened in the first place, and what Nintendo did to prevent such a crash happening again.

The reason why Atari crashed the industry to the ground is because they completely lacked any form of quality assurance, which meant that the Atari 2600 was eventually flooded with too many poorly designed or badly programmed games. To prevent something like that happening again, Ninty introduced the the "Nintendo Seal of Quality", a form of quality assurance that assured Nintendo's customers that their products will be quality products, free from bugs and glitches, and approved by Nintendo before being released. This was achieved using a form of lock protection preventing unlicensed cartridges from working on the NES. This is pretty much the same methods used by all console manufacturers, including Sony & Microsoft, to this day.

And let's also not forget about Nintendo's hardware innovations still widely used by both Sony & Microsoft, including the NES's D-pad, Famicom Disk System's optical discs, SNES's four-button layout, N64's analog stick and force feedback, DS's touch-screen, Wii's motion controls, etc. And lastly, let's also not forget the Nintendo games that revolutionized the industry, such as Donkey Kong, Super Mario Bros, Legend of Zelda, Metroid, Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, etc.

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[QUOTE="cainetao11"]

Atari didnt start console gamingJag85

well as far as i know they where the 1st on the market that used cartage's and could be hocked up to the TV. a TV that incudes games is not a console which was 1st on the market

No, they did not start console gaming. The first console on the market was the Magnavox Oddysey, released in 1972, the same year Atari released Pong in the arcades. Atari then released Home Pong in 1975.

As for the first console to use cartridges, it was the now largely forgotten Fairchild Channel F, which was released in 1976, a year before the Atari 2600. And even after its release, the 2600 didn't gain a clear lead over its competitors until they licensed Taito's Space Invaders. From then on, the Atari 2600 became a mainstream success and the rest is history... until the 1983 industry crash.

Without Atari, there would be no Nintendo.

Your point?

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[QUOTE="Second_Hokage"]

If Nintendo didn't bring back video games back in the 1980s, we wouldn't have had video games. If it weren't for Nintendo screwing SONY, there wouldn't be a Playstation 3, and if it weren't for the success of the video game industry, we wouldn't of had Microsoft try and cash in with the xbox. Overall, Nintendo is the reason you enjoy your Call of Duty or Skyrim, so how about some damn respect?

super600

why would a respect the same company that rehashes the same games everytime. I swear nintendo fanboys are the worst, so sad all their games based on nostalgia.

Most of the games they make are not rehased.SMG and SMG2 are most definetly nott rehased games.

I would argue that they're totally based on Mario 64, but with the crappy motion controls. New Super Mario Wii may as well have been Mario 3 all over again.

Without the founder ofChuck E. Cheese's there would be no Nintendo (gaming console, not the company). Nintendo would probably still be making cards and random toys.

They saved the game industry... They ****ing innovate, look at all the games before the Nintendo. Do you really want there only to be games like Pong, Pacman, and centipede.

I would find it amusing to see people argue about foliage and resolution of Pacman games though.

Banjo_Kongfooie

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If Nintendo didn't bring back video games back in the 1980s, we wouldn't have had video games (...) so how about some damn respect?

Second_Hokage

idk about MS but. Without Ninty there wouldnt have been a playstation....ironic.eboyishere

Indeed. Microsoft kind of entered into the gaming division on their own. Playstation existed BECAUSE of Nintendo.

I don't know how different it would have been. The people that have innovative ideas would still be there, working for other companies perhaps. Maybe it hadn't been Sony that had given us the first succesfull 3D console, but someone else would have, Sega perhaps. Maybe the names on todays HD consoles would have been playbox and Xstation..LOL.

I think we would have ended up where we are one way or another....

And if it weren't for Benjamin Franklin you wouldn't have the electricity you use to play Skyrim and Call of Duty, so what about some damn respect to Ben?

Without Atari, there would be no Nintendo.

Your point?

WeempWomp

Atari was founded in 1972.

Your point?

Without the founder ofChuck E. Cheese's there would be no Nintendo (gaming console, not the company). Nintendo would probably still be making cards and random toys.

TREAL_Since

I don't know how different it would have been. The people that have innovative ideas would still be there, working for other companies perhaps. Maybe it hadn't been Sony that had given us the first succesfull 3D console, but someone else would have, Sega perhaps. Maybe the names on todays HD consoles would have been playbox and Xstation..LOL.

I think we would have ended up where we are one way or another....

Martin_G_N

Indeed. Microsoft kind of entered into the gaming division on their own. Playstation existed BECAUSE of Nintendo.garland51

Actually, they didn't. Microsoft entered because of Sega. It was the Dreamcast that directly inspired Microsoft to enter the gaming industry, which is why the Xbox was pretty much just a Dreamcast 2.0, obvious with everything from the controller design to the online service.