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#1 hanman9
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcnsG11MRE8&feature=g-all-lik&context=G2a4e5a3FAAAAAAAAAAA

I'm not a tech spec expert but this guy sounds like he knows what he's talking about. I've disregarded all rumours after i heard this. I hope ppl can have uninterupted sleeps from now on....

Thoughts/Feedback...?

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#2 painguy1
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Don't listen to anyone. Know one knows jack right now. Just rest assured that you will have Mario and Zelda in HD. Thats all i care about anyway :P If you want graphics get a PC. That way you get the best of both worlds

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#3 TyberZannxxxx
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There is nothing to worry about. Wii U will be significantly more powerful than PS3/Xbox 360 and powerful enough for most (if not all) next-gen engines.

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#4 GulliversTravel
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Nice to see how everyone whos posted actually watched the video:roll:
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#5 Arbiterisl33t69
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Why would TC be worried if the video explains in detail how most of the rumors of the Wii-U being less powerful than current gen consoles are pure bullsh!t?
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#6 hanman9
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i just think ppl are taking all these rumours about Wii U being less capable than current gen consoles as facts. I know most true gamers care about gameplay over graphics but these days..... too many pplare graphics whores who worry about numbers rather than the actual experience, but it's an interesting and informative vid if you can get your head around half of what he's saying...

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#7 painguy1
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Nice to see how everyone whos posted actually watched the video:roll:GulliversTravel

Most ppl in those videos are crazy mang (if ur the guy in the video, then i was just joking) :P

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#8 dontshackzmii
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No idea what the specs will be. This dude knows what he is talking about however no proof this is going to be whats in the box.

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#9 bonesawisready5
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Why isn't anyone listening to developers with their names out in the public like Randy Pitchford saying its much more powerful? Why? You guys are litterally listening to rumors from mysterious sources and YouTube vids but not developers developing games for it? No wonder the internet forum go'ers have such a bad image.
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#10 OreoMilkshake
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Seems believable but I'd like to see for myself.
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#11 babycakin
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rumors are rumors

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#12 Inconsistancy
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The was the most redundant, boring ass video I've watched this whole year.

It really didn't need to be 13 minutes, with the jackass restating everything he said twice.

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#13 killzowned24
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Why isn't anyone listening to developers with their names out in the public like Randy Pitchford saying its much more powerful? bonesawisready5
Because any dev with a kit is NOT gonna say otherwise. How I see it- 1) the box for wii is pretty small 2)has to stream to controller 3)has not shown one thing that says its better than current gen.
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#14 goblaa
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I don't understand people who think the wiiu is going to be some monster power house. I expect it to bee a slightly better PS3/360. And I'm ok with that.

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#15 Inconsistancy
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I don't understand people who think the wiiu is going to be some monster power house. I expect it to bee a slightly better PS3/360. And I'm ok with that.

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What about a 4850 is 'some monster power house'? :?
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#16 tubbyc
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Ok, that was a good, detailed comparison. But I thought it was only confirmed that IBM and AMD are supplying the CPU and GPU, not exactly which ones the Wii U's will be based on, like the guy in the video claims? I wouldn't be surprised though. I wouldn't say it's a big leap forward, but probably enough for most game to be 1080p for example.

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oh yeah that random youtube video from a dude that can't even pull a green screen effect is totally reliable.
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[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]Why isn't anyone listening to developers with their names out in the public like Randy Pitchford saying its much more powerful? killzowned24
Because any dev with a kit is NOT gonna say otherwise.

so what you're saying is that the people saying otherwise don't even have a devkit to back up their claims?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcnsG11MRE8&feature=g-all-lik&context=G2a4e5a3FAAAAAAAAAAA

I'm not a tech spec expert but this guy sounds like he knows what he's talking about. I've disregarded all rumours after i heard this. I hope ppl can have uninterupted sleeps from now on....

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hanman9
that guys a freaking idiot.
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#20 Xplode_games
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This video is useless because it claims the Wii U will have a Radeon HD 4850 and Quad Core Power 7 CPU. If that's true then it will be much more powerful than the 360 and PS3.

However, no one has confirmed what will be in the Wii U. For all we know the Wii U could have a gimped 4000 series GPU and a stripped down Power 7 CPU. If that's the case then it could be a piece of crap that can't keep up with the HD twins.

This video doesn't clear sh*t up. And yes it was annoying him repeating everything 5 times and not really doing a good job of explaining how an HD 4770 is better than the trash in the 360 and PS3.

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#21 umcommon
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1) the box for wii is pretty small 2)has to stream to controller 3)has not shown one thing that says its better than current gen.killzowned24

This is smaller.

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#22 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Not believing this either. I'll wait for official, concrete info.
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#23 ronvalencia
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This video is useless because it claims the Wii U will have a Radeon HD 4850 and Quad Core Power 7 CPU. If that's true then it will be much more powerful than the 360 and PS3.

However, no one has confirmed what will be in the Wii U. For all we know the Wii U could have a gimped 4000 series GPU and a stripped down Power 7 CPU. If that's the case then it could be a piece of crap that can't keep up with the HD twins.

This video doesn't clear sh*t up. And yes it was annoying him repeating everything 5 times and not really doing a good job of explaining how an HD 4770 is better than the trash in the 360 and PS3.

Xplode_games

ATI Radeon HD 4550/4570 would be under ATI Xenos, while ATI Radeon HD 4650 would be above ATI Xenos.

Skyrim on Radeon HD 4570

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#24 Teuf_
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Anybody that actually knows the Wii-U specs isn't going to make a god damn YouTube video about it.

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#25 brofists
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i just think ppl are taking all these rumours about Wii U being less capable than current gen consoles as facts. I know most true gamers care about gameplay over graphics but these days..... too many pplare graphics whores who worry about numbers rather than the actual experience, but it's an interesting and informative vid if you can get your head around half of what he's saying...

hanman9
This is what I don't get, WHY CANT WE HAVE BOTH GREAT GAMEPLAY AND GREAT GRAPHICS? Why does it always have to be one or the other? We are at a point, were; with newer tech, presentation can be taken to new heights, so why wouldn't any one want to see the advances that can be made in that area, which would ehance gameplay? Now a days, graphics matter just as much as gameplay...and vice versa. Any one that says differently is lying. Just look at the Uncharted franchise as a shining example of how both great gameplay and GREAT(really STUNNING) graphics/presentation can be more then achieved into one brilliant package of fun, and co-exist in perfect cohesion with one another. p.s Let's say we have two games, with similar mechanics, gameplay, ideas, and moments ect. We will call them game b and game c. The two are basically carbon copies of eachother. But lets say we take out all the story, story elements, presentation from game b. Remember, both games are still virtually the same, But now game b doesn't have the story/presentation behind it anymore, like game c still does. So what game is going to be better now? Easily game c, right? -The one with the story behind it - to give that gameplay a greater purpose. The presentation can easily make a difference in gameplay, and enhance it. As gamers we should be asking for BOTH. And... Thankfully, we do get both great gameplay,and awesome graphics, presentation, story, story-telling from the most upper tier of developer in the industry in Naughty Dog. That's why I love Naughty Dog, and appreciate what they do, bcause they are one of the very...very few to deliver the goods in ALL aspects of game design. They(ND) value and work very hard on the story, story elements, story-telling, character interaction, dialogue, soundtrack ect. aspects of presentation. They(ND) will put 100x more love into just those important aspects of game design alone, then other developers will put into any one aspect of their design period. And Naughty Dog will spread that same love out to the gameplay, and spread that same love to every other aspect of design as well. It gives the already good gameplay in their games an even greater purpose,and far more immersive nature. Naughty Dog is one of the only current developers that gets it right IMO, and is trying to move gaming along into the future with the times as new technology becomes available and progresses ect. Games can be much more then what they are now. You see, With games you can more intimately tell a story or coney an experience, and Naughty Dog seems to be the only ones realising that, doing just that, and thus trying to bring gaming forward in that area , and into an almost new medium of gaming/experience
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#26 umcommon
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Anybody that actually knows the Wii-U specs isn't going to make a god damn YouTube video about it.

Teufelhuhn
He already said he doesn't know the exact specs... he's simply giving a ball park estimate based on the components that are most likely to be used on the console. This seemed more reliable and logical at least, than the anonymous so called source game industry had.
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#27 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Okay, let's state the obvious. THERE IS A GOD DAMN NDA ON ALL WII U RELATED TALK. NO ONE WHO IS WORKING ON IT IS ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT IT IN ANY DETAIL.
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#28 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]Why isn't anyone listening to developers with their names out in the public like Randy Pitchford saying its much more powerful? BrunoBRS
Because any dev with a kit is NOT gonna say otherwise.

so what you're saying is that the people saying otherwise don't even have a devkit to back up their claims?

they have kits,but wouldn't dare say anything bad with their name.
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#29 HalcyonScarlet
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He's reading a spec list. I don't get that he knows what any of that means.

Why is he comparing an X1800XT to a 4470? When ati said the xenos was similar, I think they meant the output, but the architectures aren't the same, but he'll continue with his comparisons. :?

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#30 D1zzyCriminal
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The problem were going to have next gen is if hardware is too powerfull, and peoples expectations are too high; developing costs will increase. Meaning cost of games will increase. If the WiiU is weak its not really an issue to developers if it has a good adoption rate and offers all the features next gen devs want (more ram, touchscreen etc).

I think Microsoft and Sony are holding fire so they can see what standards Nintendo set.

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The Sheep have been boasting for a while about the WiiU, and now the signs are that it doesn't actually look like it will be much more powerful than the current gen (and in some estimates, weaker) we're back to "graphics don't matter."

If that was remotely true they wouldn't have put out new consoles all this time. The difference between a NES and a SNES? Graphics. N64 and SNES? Graphics. Gamecuce and N64? graphics. I appreciate the wii tacked on a lamentable gimmick which promised something it didn't deliver (1:1 motion) but it was still the same old franchises dressed up in a fancy new suit.

So now we get another console. Rumours are its behind the times. No one has confirmed this, but it's looking likely. And we're back to "yes but Nintendo has the first party" and "graphics don't matter". Well, if you're happy with Nintendo's first party imagine how much money they could have saved you all this time if they just stuck their games on the one console? The N64 could have had periodical updates with hardware gimmicks for those who choose to motion control or have a two screen system.

I can tell you now, graphics matter to me. I haven't been buying these new consoles and PC all these years dreaming about fresh ways to waggle a remote around a room. I want games of the future to be ultra realistic, ultra beautiful, to be vivid and jaw dropping. I also want them to be playable and with well written plots in circumstances where that is called for. But I don't see why I should limit myself to just playability. I want it all. Games like RDR and crysis, these are the games which have really accomplished something.

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#32 rzepak
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Don't listen to anyone. Know one knows jack right now. Just rest assured that you will have Mario and Zelda in HD. Thats all i care about anyway :P If you want graphics get a PC. That way you get the best of both worlds

painguy1

HD is 1080p and up. Wii U will not do that.

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#33 lamprey263
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that was quite an impressive analysis, hope MS and Sony have people that can gauge the competition like that when it comes to how they design their systems, heck I might actually get a Wii U now just to play some multiplats while I wait for the other next gen consoles
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#34 Inconsistancy
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that was quite an impressive analysis, hope MS and Sony have people that can gauge the competition like that when it comes to how they design their systems, heck I might actually get a Wii U now just to play some multiplats while I wait for the other next gen consoleslamprey263
Impressive analysis? He read off the stats of some gpu's and cpu's slowly then repeated himself needlessly. He didn't even bothered to grab the real specs of the console gpu's, he just used some close analogues from their respective vendor.

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#35 FireEmblem_Man
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Anybody that actually knows the Wii-U specs isn't going to make a god damn YouTube video about it.

Teufelhuhn

Well then Teufelhuhn, tell us! I think you can drop your mop and vacuum to explain the power of the Wii-U :P

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#36 ZombeGoast
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A lot of people just like to see the negative rumors about the WIi-U without knowing anything about specs. The rumor spec of the 720 and Orbis has a weaker GPU than the Wii-U.

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#37 com2006
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Pretty much what I thought, it wouldn't be difficult to make a console more powerful than current gen. PC tech absolutely trounces both machines. The HD4850 wouldn't even cost that much these days. It's a bloody old chip, but still takes the PS3 and 360 GPUs to the cleaners. Some people believe both consoles are up there with a PC and the next gen systems will blow today's PC out the water but that isn't going to happen. PC has jumped too far ahead of consoles now. So stop acting like the PS3 and 360 are god like machines and not even a console built 6 years later can match them even when sold at an affordable price.
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#38 SaltyMeatballs
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He is going on rumours, but Nintendo would have to try hard to be less powerful than a 7 year old console, seriously.
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#39 com2006
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Oh and for the record the power7 chip is pretty much confirmed to be in the Wii U: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=432969
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#40 MercenaryMafia
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The Wii U will be powerful and dominate next gen. These rumors mean nothing until we get the specs from Nintendo.
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Oh and for the record the power7 chip is pretty much confirmed to be in the Wii U: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=432969com2006

A link to a forum or a blog or anything like that isn't confirmation of anything. That's the problem with this video. He's debunking rumors with more rumors.

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[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="killzowned24"] Because any dev with a kit is NOT gonna say otherwise.

so what you're saying is that the people saying otherwise don't even have a devkit to back up their claims?

they have kits,but wouldn't dare say anything bad with their name.

so anyone with a kit wouldn't say anything but praise, but the people criticizing it have kits... can you even make a consistent argument?
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#43 noscope-ak47
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Ok that video was worthless

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#44 ydnarrewop
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Wow what a job the guy did. I loved it! Wii U is going to be a nice little piece of tech :) Jeeze makes me interested in Nintendo again :D
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#45 22Toothpicks
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That was a very aggravating video to sit through. I think his analysis yields feeble conclusions; nothing official has been released in regards to the Wii-U's specs. I think it is safe to assume, however, that the specs will at least be on-par with current consoles given the videos we saw at last year's E3.
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The Sheep have been boasting for a while about the WiiU, and now the signs are that it doesn't actually look like it will be much more powerful than the current gen (and in some estimates, weaker) we're back to "graphics don't matter."

If that was remotely true they wouldn't have put out new consoles all this time. The difference between a NES and a SNES? Graphics. N64 and SNES? Graphics. Gamecuce and N64? graphics. I appreciate the wii tacked on a lamentable gimmick which promised something it didn't deliver (1:1 motion) but it was still the same old franchises dressed up in a fancy new suit.

So now we get another console. Rumours are its behind the times. No one has confirmed this, but it's looking likely. And we're back to "yes but Nintendo has the first party" and "graphics don't matter". Well, if you're happy with Nintendo's first party imagine how much money they could have saved you all this time if they just stuck their games on the one console? The N64 could have had periodical updates with hardware gimmicks for those who choose to motion control or have a two screen system.

I can tell you now, graphics matter to me. I haven't been buying these new consoles and PC all these years dreaming about fresh ways to waggle a remote around a room. I want games of the future to be ultra realistic, ultra beautiful, to be vivid and jaw dropping. I also want them to be playable and with well written plots in circumstances where that is called for. But I don't see why I should limit myself to just playability. I want it all. Games like RDR and crysis, these are the games which have really accomplished something.

Chemical_Viking
so every game needs to have deep intricate plots and hyper realistic graphics to accomplish something? Really?
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#47 WiiCubeM1
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That is nice to know that at least we don't have to be worried about the Wii U's possible specs are at least more powerful than current gen consoles. I already know it'll be the weakest of the 3 next gen as Microsoft and Sony are waiting to see what Nintendo's confirmed specs are before trying to improve on them with their own consoles. It won't bother me as a Nintendo console with better graphics than this gen will still look pretty frikkin epic.

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#48 ShadowMoses900
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Just some dumb youtube vieo, he doesn't know anything. But the WiiU is getting Blu Ray which means it will get bigger games! And Blu Ray gives devs more room on the disc to add more graphic details and textures ect...I hope it has a good free online service too. I'm really excited about the WiiU.

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#49 OreoMilkshake
Member since 2009 • 12833 Posts

Just some dumb youtube vieo, he doesn't know anything. But the WiiU is getting Blu Ray which means it will get bigger games! And Blu Ray gives devs more room on the disc to add more graphic details and textures ect...I hope it has a good free online service too. I'm really excited about the WiiU.

ShadowMoses900
It's not blu-ray, it's a proprietary disc that is equal to blu-ray.
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#50 22Toothpicks
Member since 2005 • 12546 Posts

Just some dumb youtube vieo, he doesn't know anything. But the WiiU is getting Blu Ray which means it will get bigger games! And Blu Ray gives devs more room on the disc to add more graphic details and textures ect...I hope it has a good free online service too. I'm really excited about the WiiU.

ShadowMoses900
Hmm? I was under the impression that the Wii-U would be using a Blu-Ray variant not Blu-Ray itself...?