Worst popular fighting game franchise?

Whatever TC likes the most.

Naruto. Bandai's monopolization on the franchise ruined it.

Why am I not surprised Smash is in second place?

WWE games... If they count...

If not, Then Blazblue. Only for the terrible story mode.

I would say Naruto. I think they serve their purpose well for fans of the show looking for a flashy, stylish game that emulates the visuals of the anime but from my experience with some of the games, they aren't competitive or deep.

Smash Bros. Used to play it with my son on Gamecube when he was younger. Just don't get the appeal.

From what I've played, it's probably Mortal Kombat 10 and Killer Instinct.

MK10

- Absolutely shit art direction compared to 9, redesigned "wealistic proportions" SJW trash = boring character design

- Stupid block button than "back", which would make more sense

- Super moves last far too long in animations

- Mistakes "convoluted" with depth

- God awful PC port

- Terrible business practice

- Seems to be pretty imbalanced

- Zoning can't properly be dealt with like Street Fighter (superior game)

- Other things not made up yet

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Killer Instincts problem is pretty simple, auto-combos turn it into a QTE that gets old after an hour. Apparently they patched it in for accessibility, and basically ruined their own game. MVC: I and DBZF auto-combo system is far better as it's accessible but not overpowered. Here, they add it in without even the option to turn it off in MP.

The mechanic itself is mostly just annoying, rather play the game without it, it actually has some pretty cool character mechanics, which you can't really explore because ULTRA COMBO, becomes the end of all ends. A game I wanted to like, but couldn't, because they smeared shit all over it.

Does Yakusa 6 count as a fighting game? If yes, then that.

@uninspiredcup: The art direction in MKX is 10x better then in the previous 3d attempts at a MK game. This is the first MK get that doesn't look like ass since the 2d digitized ones back in the day. Sorry they downsized the titties but I'll take that over ass ugly characters and bad art.

Great.

Garbage.

They couldn't even (or understand) the juxtaposition of Mileena having miss-world body/face-features set against knee-jerk bestial shock value to confuse the players weener. They even ruined that because the artists behind it are apparently as dumb as a rock, not comprehending what made the character interesting in the face place.

Good job.

The only one that I’ve never played from that list is Narotu so I have no knowledge of those games. The only Dragon Ball game that I’ve played is Dragon Ball FighterZ which I love but have no history with the rest.

The rest though I have played pretty much all of the games in their franchises. While I do pretty much enjoy them all I would say that the Virtua Fighter games are probably my least favourite. That lack of any real storyline in it along with characters that I largely find uninteresting are the biggest factors for me in not spending as much time with them as I do with other fighters.

Though I think Naruto for example is worse, I agree with your complaints about MKX and KI. MKX really sucks compared to 9. Some character designs were horrible. I feel the same way about KI too. Seems like an awesome fighting game, but auto combos made me get a bad taste after playing it. Autocombos in online games completely ruins the online.

Virtua Fighter imo

My list:

1. MK

2. SF

3. SSB

4. SC

4. Tekken

5. Rest

Never heard of The King of Fighters, Naruto, Blazeblue, or Injustice.

I'd put FighterZ ahead of anything from SC or Tekken if that was the only DBZ fighting game, but there is a lot of junk in the series.

Have to agree here. Sure, the female characters had big tits, but their faces were a bit too man-ish. Injustice 2 is the first game Netherrealm has made with chicks that actually look like chicks.

@UssjTrunks said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@vfighter said:

@uninspiredcup: The art direction in MKX is 10x better then in the previous 3d attempts at a MK game. This is the first MK get that doesn't look like ass since the 2d digitized ones back in the day. Sorry they downsized the titties but I'll take that over ass ugly characters and bad art.

Great.

Garbage.

They couldn't even (or understand) the juxtaposition of Mileena having miss-world body/face-features set against knee-jerk bestial shock value to confuse the players weener. They even ruined that because the artists behind it are apparently as dumb as a rock, not comprehending what made the character interesting in the face place.

Good job.

Are you 13? MK10 is the best 3D MK game they've ever done. If you're craving big jugs that much, get a girlfriend, or hit up your favourite porn site.

So.. basically ignore the argument, make a declaration of rightness, because because? Then attempt to belittle the author of the said (excellent) argument.

Hokey dokey

Hate to tell you, but aesthetics are partly the appeal of the these games alongside mechanics. Your brain reacts to it, like it or not. Mileena's MK9 design was genius really, a clear stand out.

The Ying and Yang Taoism. Boner. Chaos and order, the dots misplaced. It's about the closest to an intelligent statement gaming has ever produced.

@UssjTrunks said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@UssjTrunks said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@vfighter said:

@uninspiredcup: The art direction in MKX is 10x better then in the previous 3d attempts at a MK game. This is the first MK get that doesn't look like ass since the 2d digitized ones back in the day. Sorry they downsized the titties but I'll take that over ass ugly characters and bad art.

Great.

Garbage.

They couldn't even (or understand) the juxtaposition of Mileena having miss-world body/face-features set against knee-jerk bestial shock value to confuse the players weener. They even ruined that because the artists behind it are apparently as dumb as a rock, not comprehending what made the character interesting in the face place.

Good job.

Are you 13? MK10 is the best 3D MK game they've ever done. If you're craving big jugs that much, get a girlfriend, or hit up your favourite porn site.

So.. basically ignore the argument, make a declaration of rightness, because because? Then attempt to belittle the author of the said (excellent) argument.

Hokey dokey

Absolutely shit art direction compared to 9, redesigned "wealistic proportions" SJW trash = boring character design

Translation: "I am a young boy who likes big boobs and hasn't discovered porn yet."

Just repeating over and over like a broken record.

Oh wells.

@UssjTrunks said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@vfighter said:

@uninspiredcup: The art direction in MKX is 10x better then in the previous 3d attempts at a MK game. This is the first MK get that doesn't look like ass since the 2d digitized ones back in the day. Sorry they downsized the titties but I'll take that over ass ugly characters and bad art.

Great.

Garbage.

They couldn't even (or understand) the juxtaposition of Mileena having miss-world body/face-features set against knee-jerk bestial shock value to confuse the players weener. They even ruined that because the artists behind it are apparently as dumb as a rock, not comprehending what made the character interesting in the face place.

Good job.

Are you 13? MK10 is the best 3D MK game they've ever done. If you're craving big jugs that much, get a girlfriend, or hit up your favourite porn site.

People that make comments like yours are usually the SJW virgins. Just saying. No straight male would ever complain about too much female cleavage.

I would argue Injustice 2 is even worse than MX10X. Not specifically just the character designs but basic animations and posture. Realism does not automatically translate as better aesthetics.

e.g.

Compare that with SFV's (frankly brilliant animations) regardless of lower quality assets and and it's pretty shitty. Capcom (compared to MVC:I) clearly have superior artistic eyes at work.

@uninspiredcup said:

@judaspete said:

@vfighter said:

@uninspiredcup: The art direction in MKX is 10x better then in the previous 3d attempts at a MK game. This is the first MK get that doesn't look like ass since the 2d digitized ones back in the day. Sorry they downsized the titties but I'll take that over ass ugly characters and bad art.

Have to agree here. Sure, the female characters had big tits, but their faces were a bit too man-ish. Injustice 2 is the first game Netherrealm has made with chicks that actually look like chicks.

I would argue Injustice 2 is even worse than MX10X. Not specifically just the character designs but basic animations and posture. Realism does not automatically translate as better aesthetics.

e.g.

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Compare that with SFV's (frankly brilliant animations) regardless of lower quality assets and and it's pretty shitty. Capcom (compared to MVC:I) clearly have superior artistic eyes at work.

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I will definitely agree that Street Fighter has better art direction and animation than MK or Injustice. Netherrealm games are and have always been a bit stiff. As for costume design, that's fine if you prefer 9 over X. It's a matter of opinion and I'm not going to hold it against you.

People that make comments like yours are usually the SJW virgins. Just saying. No straight male would ever complain about too much female cleavage.

This comment, however, is just absurd. These are cartoon boobs we are talking about here. If that's exciting for you, fine, to each his own. Just understand that some people don't feel the same way about fake tits.

So now anyone who doesn't have a hard on for a 3D virtual character is a SJW? If anything i worry about the mental state of anyone looking at the cleavage of a videogame character.

@judaspete said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@judaspete said:

@vfighter said:

@uninspiredcup: The art direction in MKX is 10x better then in the previous 3d attempts at a MK game. This is the first MK get that doesn't look like ass since the 2d digitized ones back in the day. Sorry they downsized the titties but I'll take that over ass ugly characters and bad art.

Have to agree here. Sure, the female characters had big tits, but their faces were a bit too man-ish. Injustice 2 is the first game Netherrealm has made with chicks that actually look like chicks.

I would argue Injustice 2 is even worse than MX10X. Not specifically just the character designs but basic animations and posture. Realism does not automatically translate as better aesthetics.

e.g.

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Compare that with SFV's (frankly brilliant animations) regardless of lower quality assets and and it's pretty shitty. Capcom (compared to MVC:I) clearly have superior artistic eyes at work.

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I will definitely agree that Street Fighter has better art direction and animation than MK or Injustice. Netherrealm games are and have always been a bit stiff. As for costume design, that's fine if you prefer 9 over X. It's a matter of opinion and I'm not going to hold it against you.

People that make comments like yours are usually the SJW virgins. Just saying. No straight male would ever complain about too much female cleavage.

This comment, however, is just absurd. These are cartoon boobs we are talking about here. If that's exciting for you, fine, to each his own. Just understand that some people don't feel the same way about fake tits.

@needhealing said:

So now anyone who doesn't have a hard on for a 3D virtual character is a SJW? If anything i worry about the mental state of anyone looking at the cleavage of a videogame character.

@judaspete said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@judaspete said:

@vfighter said:

@uninspiredcup: The art direction in MKX is 10x better then in the previous 3d attempts at a MK game. This is the first MK get that doesn't look like ass since the 2d digitized ones back in the day. Sorry they downsized the titties but I'll take that over ass ugly characters and bad art.

Have to agree here. Sure, the female characters had big tits, but their faces were a bit too man-ish. Injustice 2 is the first game Netherrealm has made with chicks that actually look like chicks.

I would argue Injustice 2 is even worse than MX10X. Not specifically just the character designs but basic animations and posture. Realism does not automatically translate as better aesthetics.

e.g.

Loading Video...

Compare that with SFV's (frankly brilliant animations) regardless of lower quality assets and and it's pretty shitty. Capcom (compared to MVC:I) clearly have superior artistic eyes at work.

Loading Video...

I will definitely agree that Street Fighter has better art direction and animation than MK or Injustice. Netherrealm games are and have always been a bit stiff. As for costume design, that's fine if you prefer 9 over X. It's a matter of opinion and I'm not going to hold it against you.

People that make comments like yours are usually the SJW virgins. Just saying. No straight male would ever complain about too much female cleavage.

This comment, however, is just absurd. These are cartoon boobs we are talking about here. If that's exciting for you, fine, to each his own. Just understand that some people don't feel the same way about fake tits.

This comes across as pretty prejudice tbh. Hateful even.

Mine? I just find it absurd, even gross that anyone would call someone SJW for not liking a virtual 3D characters boobs. That's overdoing it.

@uninspiredcup said:

@needhealing said:

So now anyone who doesn't have a hard on for a 3D virtual character is a SJW? If anything i worry about the mental state of anyone looking at the cleavage of a videogame character.

@judaspete said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@judaspete said:

Have to agree here. Sure, the female characters had big tits, but their faces were a bit too man-ish. Injustice 2 is the first game Netherrealm has made with chicks that actually look like chicks.

I would argue Injustice 2 is even worse than MX10X. Not specifically just the character designs but basic animations and posture. Realism does not automatically translate as better aesthetics.

e.g.

Loading Video...

Compare that with SFV's (frankly brilliant animations) regardless of lower quality assets and and it's pretty shitty. Capcom (compared to MVC:I) clearly have superior artistic eyes at work.

Loading Video...

I will definitely agree that Street Fighter has better art direction and animation than MK or Injustice. Netherrealm games are and have always been a bit stiff. As for costume design, that's fine if you prefer 9 over X. It's a matter of opinion and I'm not going to hold it against you.

People that make comments like yours are usually the SJW virgins. Just saying. No straight male would ever complain about too much female cleavage.

This comment, however, is just absurd. These are cartoon boobs we are talking about here. If that's exciting for you, fine, to each his own. Just understand that some people don't feel the same way about fake tits.

This comes across as pretty prejudice tbh. Hateful even.

SJW is a term used for evil people against freedom, attempting to remove cartoon titties is a volition of gamers rights. As someone Scottish, the concept of freedom is intrinsically important, we invented it.

Which evil groups like Resetera (who adopt similar tactics to the Nazis) attempt to undermine on a daily basis. Removal of that freedom, adherence to totalitarianism with bad dress sense. It's a storm that must be stopped dead in its tracks.

Nothing good has come from SJW. They ruined Dishonored, every Mass Effect character is terrible, Dragon Age is terrible, they removed R.Mikas incredible butt-slap, attempted to remove awesome bikini unlocks in Tekken and ruined MK9's inspiring art direction.

People against SJW like good things. Boobs are cool, your brain is programmed to like them. Pretending otherwise is ridiculous. Literally attempting to defy nature.

Look at all these closet FGC aficionados

I don’t play fighting games, and lord I’ve tried

I think my intellect dropped after reading this.

Really? Because the term SJW elevated into something else. Like being offended at EVERY single thing, like people on the left being offended by Milo and Shapiro, or people on the right being offended by Stephen Colbert, John Oliver, Seth MacFarlane, and Matt Groening.

Can't say I care for the Capcom fighting games I've played.

Only one on that list that I haven't played is Naruto. But yeah, I'm sure it's trash, looks like it at least.

I voted MK, but it's really just NRS games in general, IJ has all of the same issues.

That team still can't nail simple core tried and true concepts that were worked out back in the mid 90s. Forget the FG specific stuff, surface level action game concepts that have been providing satisfying game feel for decades are still lost on them. Simple things like proper hitstop and hitspark range from weak to completely absent. Animations are limp, poor at communicating proper tells to the player, and are just unexciting to watch. The visual language is all over the place, but the animations are especially bad for fighting games.

It's funny, because it's actually similar to the Shaq Fu issue in which the animations aren't (usually) bad, but in the context of an action based game, a fighting game no less, they completely miss the mark. Animation should be there to serve the action, serve the combat engines design, serve as an intuitive communicator to the player. Instead, it seems like the combat system designers and animators at NRS have never spoken to each other. Like two separate teams working in a vacuum. The animators are just creating what looks cool to them (and even then, still lulz, as simple ease-in/fast-out, a very basic animation concept, is still poorly implemented).

Sound design is in the same boat as the animation, but not in the mood to ramble on further.

And again, most of that is very much surface level, gets much worse under the hood.

It's a shame as I derive no pleasure from bashing these games. I wish I could enjoy them. I have strong nostalgia for the series. Always loved the character designs, the stages, the over the top violence gimmick, and just the grittier audio visual style of MK in general. I just wish the series could be handled by better game designers. I think the Killer Instinct devs could really nail a MK game.

Done.

Dead or Alive. It's like Virtua Fighter's dumber obnoxious cousin, and I have no idea why it has longevity. The CG boobies are not that impressive.

I really like DOA for having a good counter system. Countering usually has some meter that limits it's use, or requires timing too accurate for mere mortals like myself to use effectively (Street Fighter 3, I'm looking at you). Not really disagreeing with you, Virtua Fighter's dumb obnoxious cousin is a pretty good description, but there is fun to be had with it beyond jiggle physics.

Really? Why are you whining about it? Why do you care so much? A lot of people hate Politically Correct Culture from both sides of the party

I used to like Naruto games but man, Shonen Jump totally butcher the Anime enough to NOT give a damn about the Naruto games anymore. Shonen Jump really drag Naruto to the ground.

BlazBlue.

I picked Naruto because I know nothing about it.

Virtua Fighter is clearly the worst - it wasn't even that well-received at the time, and it isn't even being made anymore, and no one really talks about it lovingly.

I'm only "whining" because the definition of this god awful term practically changes EVERYTIME in regards to being offended! When even people who decide to change what they create, especially when they feel something doesn't work, they're considered "SJW cucks".

And, for the most part, it's been a boogeyman argument.

I say street fighter, it's gotten so borring to me. It's better than Naruto, but from this list. The one I world not want to play is street fighter.... And Naruto, those games are trash

Naruto is pretty shitty so I picked that.

@uninspiredcup said:

@vfighter said:

@uninspiredcup: The art direction in MKX is 10x better then in the previous 3d attempts at a MK game. This is the first MK get that doesn't look like ass since the 2d digitized ones back in the day. Sorry they downsized the titties but I'll take that over ass ugly characters and bad art.

Great.

Garbage.

They couldn't even (or understand) the juxtaposition of Mileena having miss-world body/face-features set against knee-jerk bestial shock value to confuse the players weener. They even ruined that because the artists behind it are apparently as dumb as a rock, not comprehending what made the character interesting in the face place.

Good job.

^ ^ I agree with this not because I like boobs but because it's true. Part of the awesomeness of Mileena came from the fact she had a sexy body but her face was nightmarish.

By getting rid of that they diminished the character.

@so_hai: BS lol, it has a lot of fans that wish it would come back, it was outshined by Tekken because Tekken is more flashy and noob friendly (button mashing).

And not well received? Lol, it scored great everywhere, VF3 was probably the only game in the series that didn't score high across the board.

Yeah, Virtua Fighter is shit.

Never got into King of fighters. Always thought it was a poor mans street fighter.

@vfighter: Why did it ever leave?

This gives me hope in you guys. Well done.

King of Fighters scores low, as do most of the series that made the genre what it is.

@uninspiredcup: Yup, it's not even close. MKX, while it's the best animating neatherrealms game to date can't even remotely come close to Capcom fighters. SFV looks AMAZING in motion, fantastic animations, great art style, great character design, etc. MKX (and all MK games really) have such a stiff and almost painful anation style to them.

Originally it was. But the team aspect where you are essentially selecting a unchangeable deck of cards, and SNKs ridiculously good 2D work make it more a competitor to SF than the other 2D fighters.

The jump to 3D was unfortunate, it looks mediocre compared to past titles, but it's still absolutely a rock solid game, that had a far better launch than SFV with a huge roster and more modes. Obviously with SFV: AE that's a different case now.