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#1 Mystery_Writer
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Which would you prefer more? having SONY release the PS4 on 2014 with more powerful hardware than X720, or release it the same time as X720 on 2013 with pretty much similar power to X720?

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#2 Planeforger
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Having three systems next gen with varying levels of hardware will create all sorts of difficulties for multiplat titles, which could potentially suck for a lot of gamers.

Also, if they do make a more powerful system and release it later...Sony will be releasing the most expensive console in last place once again. Could be a problem for them.

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#3 arkephonic
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As I said in another thread, it would make more sense to release with the same specs as the 720 rather than improved specs over the 720. Reason being, since the general consensus is that 720 (or WiiU) will be releasing first, they will obtain lead platform status with 3rd party developers. Multi-platform games are generally just ported over to other consoles. The extra power of the PS4 (if it were to release a year later like the other scenario implies) would not be taken advantage of. 3rd party devs would not spend the extra time to make 2 different versions of the same game. Development time costs money, and that's just not the way they operate, never have, never will. In a perfect world, yes, they will make console specific versions of each game, but it just doesn't work that way. Their best bet would just be to make their hardware as similar to the 720 and Wii U as possible, and I'm sure developers would also appreciate it if they made their system architecture a little more developer friendly. I can't tell you how many times I heard developers this generation complain about how hard it was to develop for the cell at first compared to the PC centric architecture of the 360.

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#4 groverslanding
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No point of more powerful when 3rd parties will be developing for WiU/720 and not spending any more resources just for PS4 games.

Sony seems really dumb though they'll probably try it if they survive that long.

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#5 JigglyWiggly_
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I want a new original xbox, ginormous and overkill.
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#7 DrakesHaloGears
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The PS3 still has much more to give, and plenty more to offer in the future. Hell, im still very happy with my PS3, and i know many others are too! Just keep those awesome exclusive coming and I'm set. So from my personal opinion, I think it would be cool, If Sony let the PS3 get its shine on for longer! And by letting the PS3 continue to sell, and build revenue , remember that the PS3 is making a massive profit on each console sold now, it can only be a great thing. And it would provide Sony with more finances to make an even better PS4! It will create more profits, and in the meantime, Sony can work on the PS4, for as long as it takes, to ensure as best a launch as they can for the PS4. It will give Sony the time to do things the right way, and make things right, as best as they can. And that time would allow them to bring a true next generationally leap with the PS4 to boot.
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#8 DrakesHaloGears
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p.s Also, if anything those next gen muti plats will just end up being ported to the PS3, so nothing will get lost. Remember, the 720 is rumored to be much weaker then expected. So PS3 could still hang in there graphically! And the BIG FACT that some fail to realise - is that the Wii-U has a unique tablet controller. Developers would be in the same situation with the Wii-u, that they would be in with the PS4's power- if the PS4 had more power, in deciding whether to utilize that console's strength or not. Multi-platform development isn't going to be as easy as the "Wii-U/720 will share multi plats" talk and ect. Because most importantly, The Wii-U will be such a radically different console, and with such different ideas then the casual based kinectBOX, that the fact that some desperate lems can even suggest that those two consoles will be so similar, and will have all their multi plats shared versus the playstation is laughable. If anything Sony and Nintendo look to be the only consoles that will be for the core gamer, so they have more in common. After all, how are developers going to port causal kinect games to the more core based consoles from Nintendo and or Sony?
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#9 Cherokee_Jack
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Going for more power could work out better this time if the system is easy to develop for. On the other hand, the last thing they want to do is launch with a high price, so I suspect they'll shoot for parity with the 360's power. But they do need something to differentiate themselves from the competition. Microsoft will have Kinect, Nintendo will have their controller thing, and PS4 will have...what, good first-party support? That might not be enough.
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PS3 is a sinking ship, filled with irrelevant JRPG's and sub-par shooters. It's only saving grace is Naughty Dog, and eventually they too will seek to go to more profitable platforms.

The Last of Us will be the PS3's last hurrah, and Sony's as well, into the gaming world. At least it will end on a high note.

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#11 DrakesHaloGears
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PS3 is a sinking ship, filled with irrelevant JRPG's and sub-par shooters. It's only saving grace is Naughty Dog, and eventually they too will seek to go to more profitable platforms.

The Last of Us will be the PS3's last hurrah, and Sony's as well, into the gaming world. At least it will end on a high note.

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Lol no, but nice try anyway! You are obviously trolling to spite cows(like me haha) Try harder next time! lol troll! I award you negative two points sir!
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#12 DrakesHaloGears
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I posted this in another thread, "The PS3 still has much more to give, and many people are still happy with their PS3s, and do want more! So why shouldn't Sony continue to support the PS3 , instead of just blindly rushing into a next gen like M$ seems to be doing. Remember what happened the last time they rushed to release a console? PROD happened- the single greatest electronic failure in the history of man kind! Anyway, The Wii-U and the PS3 will be more then enough to hold me off, until a PS4. And the 720 won't be so powerful enough, that multi plats from it, cant also be ported down to the PS3 neither"
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#13 silversix_
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I don't care when its being released i just want something that isn't laughably weak like the 6670 is.
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#14 zarshack
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The thing is, if Sony doesn't bring out the PS4 and the PS3 is going up against the new Xbox and the Wii U, its entirely possible alot of developers may just stick to developing games for the 360/PS3 and have those games on the Wii U also. I think that the Wii U may end up only being slightly more powerful then the current gen consoles on the same level as the Xbox vs the PS2.

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#15 MLBknights58
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[QUOTE="MLBknights58"]

PS3 is a sinking ship, filled with irrelevant JRPG's and sub-par shooters. It's only saving grace is Naughty Dog, and eventually they too will seek to go to more profitable platforms.

The Last of Us will be the PS3's last hurrah, and Sony's as well, into the gaming world. At least it will end on a high note.

DrakesHaloGears

Lol no, but nice try anyway! You are obviously trolling to spite cows. Try harder next time troll! I award you negative two points sir!

So are you in denial of Sony's financial troubles?

Or perhaps defendingtheir overallmediocre lineup of exclusives?

Or how about the failure of the Vita, due to no system selling software?

The Playstation gaming brand is fading, face it.

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#16 arkephonic
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[QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"][QUOTE="MLBknights58"]

PS3 is a sinking ship, filled with irrelevant JRPG's and sub-par shooters. It's only saving grace is Naughty Dog, and eventually they too will seek to go to more profitable platforms.

The Last of Us will be the PS3's last hurrah, and Sony's as well, into the gaming world. At least it will end on a high note.

MLBknights58

Lol no, but nice try anyway! You are obviously trolling to spite cows. Try harder next time troll! I award you negative two points sir!

So are you in denial of Sony's financial troubles?

Or perhaps defendingtheir overallmediocre lineup of exclusives?

Or how about the failure of the Vita, due to no system selling software?

The Playstation gaming brand is fading, face it.

Just out of curiosity, what system do you think has a better lineup of exclusives?

And hang on, let me get my jump to conclusions mat.

The Vita has a Western Centric launch library, and it has only been released in a country which makes up only 10% of global hardware sales. You're seriously deeming the device a failure before it even releases in North America?

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#17 Zelgadiss
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Ok why does everyone think that they will be even in power if they come out at the same time/year/month bala balbal ? PS has always been more powerfull why would anything change now?

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#18 ultraking
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PS3 is a sinking ship, filled with irrelevant JRPG's and sub-par shooters. It's only saving grace is Naughty Dog, and eventually they too will seek to go to more profitable platforms.

The Last of Us will be the PS3's last hurrah, and Sony's as well, into the gaming world. At least it will end on a high note.

MLBknights58
that's some opinion you got there
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#19 Dark_man123
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By the way things are going this is going to be 2005 all over again.

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#20 MLBknights58
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[QUOTE="MLBknights58"]

PS3 is a sinking ship, filled with irrelevant JRPG's and sub-par shooters. It's only saving grace is Naughty Dog, and eventually they too will seek to go to more profitable platforms.

The Last of Us will be the PS3's last hurrah, and Sony's as well, into the gaming world. At least it will end on a high note.

ultraking

that's some opinion you got there

Not really.

PS3 has vaporware titles that seem to keep being mentioned over and over (Versus XIII and TLG) and even the main guy involved with TLG is leaving, so bye bye another quality dev.Look what happened when Itagaki left his team.

Insomniac even said no more Resistance titles, didn't sell well enough. Safe to assume noone thought it was a quality title worth the purchase.

Killzone 3 is easily outclassed by the Halo franchise, so why bother?

Twisted Metal is set to release soon, and hell that's going to be awful. Even packaging in TM Black just to compensate for the poor quality of the title they themselves are releasing.

All that's left is lame JRPG titles that are irrelevant and Naughty Dog titles. One dev with one upcoming exclusive won't save an entire console which is already in last place.

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#21 Kiro0
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[QUOTE="ultraking"][QUOTE="MLBknights58"]

PS3 is a sinking ship, filled with irrelevant JRPG's and sub-par shooters. It's only saving grace is Naughty Dog, and eventually they too will seek to go to more profitable platforms.

The Last of Us will be the PS3's last hurrah, and Sony's as well, into the gaming world. At least it will end on a high note.

MLBknights58

that's some opinion you got there

Not really.

PS3 has vaporware titles that seem to keep being mentioned over and over (Versus XIII and TLG) and even the main guy involved with TLG is leaving, so bye bye another quality dev.Look what happened when Itagaki left his team.

Insomniac even said no more Resistance titles, didn't sell well enough. Safe to assume noone thought it was a quality title worth the purchase.

Killzone 3 is easily outclassed by the Halo franchise, so why bother?

Twisted Metal is set to release soon, and hell that's going to be awful. Even packaging in TM Black just to compensate for the poor quality of the title they themselves are releasing.

All that's left is lame JRPG titles that are irrelevant and Naughty Dog titles. One dev with one upcoming exclusive won't save an entire console which is already in last place.

That's a nice opinion you've got there.

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#22 dream431ca
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When has hardware ever meant better games?

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#23 ultraking
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[QUOTE="ultraking"][QUOTE="MLBknights58"]

PS3 is a sinking ship, filled with irrelevant JRPG's and sub-par shooters. It's only saving grace is Naughty Dog, and eventually they too will seek to go to more profitable platforms.

The Last of Us will be the PS3's last hurrah, and Sony's as well, into the gaming world. At least it will end on a high note.

MLBknights58

that's some opinion you got there

Not really.

PS3 has vaporware titles that seem to keep being mentioned over and over (Versus XIII and TLG) and even the main guy involved with TLG is leaving, so bye bye another quality dev.Look what happened when Itagaki left his team.

Insomniac even said no more Resistance titles, didn't sell well enough. Safe to assume noone thought it was a quality title worth the purchase.

Killzone 3 is easily outclassed by the Halo franchise, so why bother?

Twisted Metal is set to release soon, and hell that's going to be awful. Even packaging in TM Black just to compensate for the poor quality of the title they themselves are releasing.

All that's left is lame JRPG titles that are irrelevant and Naughty Dog titles. One dev with one upcoming exclusive won't save an entire console which is already in last place.

I can already tell there's no point trying to even start a conversation with you. Your minds made up already
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#24 SapSacPrime
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I pick the later and more powerful option and its the most likely to happen too, as things stand now I would rather see Sony have the extra horse power because they are the only one that will actually put it to good use.

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#25 Cherokee_Jack
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When has hardware ever meant better games?

dream431ca
Oh, I don't know, every successive generation?
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#26 AmnesiaHaze
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of course as late as possible with uber specs and ownage exclusives , i can still get the next box meanwhile

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#27 willzthegamer
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[QUOTE="DrakesHaloGears"][QUOTE="MLBknights58"]

PS3 is a sinking ship, filled with irrelevant JRPG's and sub-par shooters. It's only saving grace is Naughty Dog, and eventually they too will seek to go to more profitable platforms.

The Last of Us will be the PS3's last hurrah, and Sony's as well, into the gaming world. At least it will end on a high note.

MLBknights58

Lol no, but nice try anyway! You are obviously trolling to spite cows. Try harder next time troll! I award you negative two points sir!

So are you in denial of Sony's financial troubles?

Or perhaps defendingtheir overallmediocre lineup of exclusives?

Or how about the failure of the Vita, due to no system selling software?

The Playstation gaming brand is fading, face it.

Wow!
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#28 loosingENDS
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They came a year after 360 and see what happened, even when xbox was a rather big failure

Now that 360 is a huge success, releasing a year later would as well mean leaving console bussiness altogther

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#29 o0HAPPY0o
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There will not be a PS4.

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#30 SecretPolice
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I'll tell ya right now that if MS launches a only slightly to moderately more powerful console I swear I'll just skip it and wait for Sony to make it's move and if indeedPS4 is a beastly console by TRUE comparison...

I'll be mooing next gen. :shock: :P

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#31 nervmeister
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Which would you prefer more? having SONY release the PS4 on 2014 with more powerful hardware than X720, or release it the same time as X720 on 2013 with pretty much similar power to X720?

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Release at the same time. More power aint worth it.
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#32 Malta_1980
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Considering Sony released the PS3 back in 2006, they had lots of time to think on specs for their next console.. I think this time Sony will look closely on whats being offered by their competitors and hopefully make sure their system is on par or maybe slightly better (in terms of hardware)..

But most importantly Sony needs to make sure that their next console has a price-tag close to its competition...

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#33 Inconsistancy
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It doesn't matter if it's before or after, as we saw with the PS3, it wasn't really more powerful than the 360, even with the delayed release.
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#34 Tessellation
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considering that most of their fanboys play the games for the graphics i did say yes :lol:
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#35 ShadowDeathX
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Ok why does everyone think that they will be even in power if they come out at the same time/year/month bala balbal ? PS has always been more powerfull why would anything change now?

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Playstation 1: Weaker Than N64 Playstation 2: Weaker Than Gamecube and Xbox Playstation 3: No significant difference compared to Xbox 360. Come Again?
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#36 Heil68
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Doesn't matter since I'll be buying it day one when it does come out.
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#37 Inconsistancy
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[QUOTE="Zelgadiss"]

Ok why does everyone think that they will be even in power if they come out at the same time/year/month bala balbal ? PS has always been more powerfull why would anything change now?

ShadowDeathX

Playstation 1: Weaker Than N64 Playstation 2: Weaker Than Gamecube and Xbox Playstation 3: No significant difference compared to Xbox 360. Come Again?

Also,

1. Most successful (in it's generation)
2. Most successful
3. Least successful

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#38 ydnarrewop
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I agree with most of you. I think it should be timed with the next xbox. it just makes more sense for multiplats and what not. I just hope the next Sony will be a little more developer friendly :)
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#39 commander
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the wii-u will steal the bread from under sony's and microsoft noses. What are they going to do with more powerfull hardware, the pc has more powerfull hardware too and it's hardly used. It will already be a big step up with the wii-u hardware. We should really thank nintendo for releasing the wii-u otherwise we would have been stuck with the ps3 and x360 forever. I'm buying a wii-u btw, next gen this year instead of 2013 or 2014 and i seriously think it's going to be 2014.
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The hardware doesn't matter.
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#41 casharmy
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Sony already said they don't plan on releasing a super powerful console or rather aren't going to spend alot on new hardware. Releasing later wont have much if any diffent.

Sony will release when they are ready, your wishes don't matter.

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#42 brennanhuff
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I would prefer they release something that works. Microsoft had issues with hardware, Sony had issues of unfinished software. No more beta releases at a premium.

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#43 DeX2010
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Releasing a too powerful or too weak console is bad for third party development. They want similar games so they can pump out the same game across the board. They aren't going to take advantage of powerful hardware if the other 2 consoles are weaker. Its best to release a console with similar power. Nintendo carried the Wii with Mario, Zelda and various quirky third party titles that spoke to a different audience - like Xenoblade: Chronicles.
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#44 PAL360
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Maybe Sony releases PS4 one year later with the same hardware as X720, but hyping it as 100x more powerful. It worked this gen!

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#45 Klopono
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I don't think Sony would let Nintendo have a two year head start and Microsoft a one year head start. That would be very foolish on their part, and I think they learned their lesson this generation... At least I hope they did.
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#46 CanYouDiglt
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Maybe they will release PS4 one year later with the same hardware as X720, but hyping it as 100x more powerful. Like they did this gen :twisted:

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As long as Sony says it is 100x more powerful their fanbase will believe it.
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#47 ShadowMoses900
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I would like to see the next Playstation be more powerful than the next Xbox,just like how it is now.

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#48 Riverwolf007
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i don't see what difference it makes since multiplats will just be released for the lowest common denominator anyway and system power does nothing but ensure your system will lose a marketshare battle.

remind me sw, how many times has most powerful system won a console battle?

none times?

oh yeah that's how many.

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#49 groverslanding
Member since 2012 • 952 Posts

PS3 is a sinking ship, filled with irrelevant JRPG's and sub-par shooters. It's only saving grace is Naughty Dog, and eventually they too will seek to go to more profitable platforms.

The Last of Us will be the PS3's last hurrah, and Sony's as well, into the gaming world. At least it will end on a high note.

MLBknights58

It's ironic it's called the Last of US, Sony must have gone with a double meaning

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#50 commander
Member since 2010 • 16217 Posts

i don't see what difference it makes since multiplats will just be released for the lowest common denominator anyway and system power does nothing but ensure your system will lose a marketshare battle.

remind me sw, how many times has most powerful system won a console battle?

none times?

oh yeah that's how many.

Riverwolf007

The playstation one and that was massive domination, it's also the reason why the ps2 was so successfull and the reason why sony consoles still exists

The super nintendo.