Wouldnt it be sleazy if they released a new PS or Xbox in 2 years?

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#1 right4dead
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They both sell for $300, so if someone buys one now, i think they will be cheated if a new one is released in 2 years. i mean i bought them around release but millions will buy them from now till whenever, and before they know it.... bam a new xbox or a new playstation.

i remember back in the day a dying console was around $100 when the time of a new one came around. so you sort of expected it

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#3 AmnesiaHaze
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cant wait to see next gen consoles so no, but i think the later they will be released the better the technology inside can be

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#4 Ratchet_Fan8
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Nintendo usually does that with their NDS >_>
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#5 dog_dirt
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but neither console is dying and there has been no talk at all regards new consoles. in fact MS said they have no plans for a new xbox at all

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#6 DroidPhysX
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If sony releases a new disc format, it would hurt them the most. Blu Ray still hasnt ousted DVD format.

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#7 ohthemanatee
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I think everyone's already expecting a new console by late 2012
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#8 Sik_kid_pk
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but neither console is dying and there has been no talk at all regards new consoles. in fact MS said they have no plans for a new xbox at all

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I don't understand why people take what these companies say seriously. Do you really expect Sony, MS or Nintendo to come out and give away their plans for the future? They're always gonna say the exact opposite because they don't wanna give a leg up to competitors.
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[QUOTE="dog_dirt"]

but neither console is dying and there has been no talk at all regards new consoles. in fact MS said they have no plans for a new xbox at all

Sik_kid_pk
I don't understand why people take what these companies say seriously. Do you really expect Sony, MS or Nintendo to come out and give away their plans for the future? They're always gonna say the exact opposite because they don't wanna give a leg up to competitors.

im not taking it seriously. im just passing on what i read. either way i don't expect to see a new PS3 or XBOX for 5 years
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#10 Riverwolf007
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they need to hurry up the 360 is ancient by console standards and what i spend on a console is a drop in the bucket compared to what i spend on games.

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#11 AmnesiaHaze
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they need to hurry up the 360 is ancient by console standards and what i spend on a console is a drop in the bucket compared to what i spend on games.

Riverwolf007
wii is still more "ancient" by console standards
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#12 heretrix
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In 2 years the 360 will have been out for seven years. It's a fair amount of time for a piece of electronics to be on the market.A new system shouldn't be an issue,It's not like you have to buy it when it comes out.

What is it with people and all of the crying every time a new product comes out? It's like people expect to be able to afford everything when it's announced and all products should be tailor made just for them...Get over it and stick with what you got.

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#13 JohnF111
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This gen is lasting a while, lots of profits to gain where as last gen it was all just pure profit and another console just refreshed those profits, this gen has lost billions to reach and yes MS also spent i think 3bill to get the original xbox so only Nintendo hasn't paid an arm and a leg to have a part in this generation of consoles.
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#14 lundy86_4
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That's what you have to accept when buying into a market that is constantly changing and evolving. A company can't be expected to just keep to the same console due to people buying late, it just doesn't make any sense.

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#15 right4dead
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That's what you have to accept when buying into a market that is constantly changing and evolving. A company can't be expected to just keep to the same console due to people buying late, it just doesn't make any sense.

lundy86_4

hmm, i guess its more sleazy that they would charge so much for a console,l lets hope we dont see a new one for another few years, because im sick of developers not "tapping into the consoles power", just tap into it already!!

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#16 firefluff3
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Yeah, it would be like upgrading a PC or something :P

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#17 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

That's what you have to accept when buying into a market that is constantly changing and evolving. A company can't be expected to just keep to the same console due to people buying late, it just doesn't make any sense.

right4dead

hmm, i guess its more sleazy that they would charge so much for a console,l lets hope we dont see a new one for another few years, because im sick of developers not "tapping into the consoles power", just tap into it already!!

The PS3 certainly launched at a high price point, but the 360 and Wii were reasonable. Next-gen should hopefully show a significant difference in terms of launch prices.

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#18 mucgoo
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None of them are going to say they're releasing there next console until at most a year before handed. It would nuke the current gen sales price and revealing detail would give competitors an advantage.
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#19 zenszulu
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Certainly wouldn't consider it sleazy in any sense of the word, as it's just business, and I am sure people who are still buying any system will be aware eventually there will be a new one and they wont feel cheated in anyway, as i am pretty sure they are aware technology is always progressing, nothing will be forcing the to get the new consoles right away anyway, as they have clearly waited until the price has dropped with the current batch they will more than likely do the same with the next lot.

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#20 gamerfan85
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Honestly at this point I don't see it happening. The Move and Kinect just came out and it'll take 2 years just to tap into all that. The Move games currently are basic (albeit high-def and sexy) but once they seep into the bigger titles (*cough Killzone cough*) the hardware technology will finally start to peak. And no, something isn't a "tacked-on afterthought" if it's motion designed from the ground up.

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#21 Raymundo_Manuel
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Let's just hope next gen consoles start around the $300 mark.

Last gen, a few years in, you could get a PS2 or Xbox for $129, and the Gamecube was around $99 with games like Metroid Prime.

Those were the days.


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#22 LovePotionNo9
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I don't know why it would be sleazy. The systems have been out for a pretty good while now. You expect them to just quit selling them for a few years and then after a couple of years announce that they're working on a new one? I don't know about that.

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#23 PAL360
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This is the most future proof gen do far since we are 5 years in and games still impress when it comes to graphics. but i cant wait for next gen. I would love the new consoles to come next year.

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#24 NaveedLife
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[QUOTE="Sik_kid_pk"][QUOTE="dog_dirt"]

but neither console is dying and there has been no talk at all regards new consoles. in fact MS said they have no plans for a new xbox at all

dog_dirt

I don't understand why people take what these companies say seriously. Do you really expect Sony, MS or Nintendo to come out and give away their plans for the future? They're always gonna say the exact opposite because they don't wanna give a leg up to competitors.

im not taking it seriously. im just passing on what i read. either way i don't expect to see a new PS3 or XBOX for 5 years

Yeah they are not going to say, "by the way, the new console is coming out next year, so you should just wait for that instead of buying the current one we have on the market." I would be socked if at least one of the companies didnt put out a new console by the end of 2012.

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#25 PAL360
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they need to hurry up the 360 is ancient by console standards and what i spend on a console is a drop in the bucket compared to what i spend on games.

Riverwolf007

Well, 360 is as 'ancient' as PS3 considering they have the same power but i bet you wouldnt say that about your PS3, am i right?

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#26 Ilikemyname420
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Anouncing another console in 2 years really wouldn't be that bad.

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#27 johnnyblazed88
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in 2 yrs it will be almost 2013

that would be around the perfect time to release a new xbox imo thats a good 7 yrs its been out def enough time for a big upgrade

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#28 alextherussian
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I dont see the issue whatsoever. If they announced a new console today I would be fine. If you dont want it, dont buy it. It would even be good if they announce a new console soon as the longer a console exists the more worthwhile it becomes as a purchase, as more games should keep coming out on it.
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#29 rogelio22
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now that i can afford to buy any console right away they decide to take their sweet old time (10years for crying out loud!!!???) they should release one every 5 yrs. current gen graphics look dated by pcs

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#30 cantor2537
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Honestly at this point I don't see it happening. The Move and Kinect just came out and it'll take 2 years just to tap into all that. The Move games currently are basic (albeit high-def and sexy) but once they seep into the bigger titles (*cough Killzone cough*) the hardware technology will finally start to peak. And no, something isn't a "tacked-on afterthought" if it's motion designed from the ground up.

gamerfan85

I agree. The thing is GT5 JUST came out for the PS3. Also the next installment of GTA hasn't even been announced, and I'm willing to bet they're going to make more than one GTA game for this gen. The problem is games take so long to develop now for these consoles. It's not like back in the SNES/PS1/PS2 days where it takes no time to make a 2D side-scroller. Also, the PS3 just got a firmware update to make it 3D compatible... Whereas with the PS2 and previous consoles, we could see new consoles on the horizon at about the 4-5 year mark, I honestly can't see it with the PS3 and 360. The Wii? Maybe. But definitely not with the PS3 and 360.

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#31 Devil-Itachi
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Nintendo usually does that with their NDS >_>Ratchet_Fan8
His clearly not talking about redesigns.
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#32 T_REX305
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i dont see why someone would release a game for the PS2/xbox still
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#33 4_Horsemen
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Console brands are like fine wine. You have to wait for it to mature. Or else it won't reach it's potential. Technology development is not advancing at the same speed as before. PS and Xbox have made tremendous leaps in eachiteration. But I measure progress with the PC. If a high end PC is not a huge leap over the consoles. Then a console iteration is not ready or worth being made now. Especially when they keep squeezing more juice out of the consoles. Despite some games claiming they have pushed it to the limit.

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#34 Antantics
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It will only be sleezy if we dont carry gamertags/psn names across with all achievs/trophys. That would suck as its a nice history of the games you play

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#35 SPBoss
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I would really love that.. I mean i wouldn't even buy either of them but at least it would mean pc gaming is no longer being held back by consoles with petty ram
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#36 soulitane
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If they've waited this long to get one of them wouldn't they also wait to get a new one next gen.
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#37 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

they need to hurry up the 360 is ancient by console standards and what i spend on a console is a drop in the bucket compared to what i spend on games.

PAL360

Well, 360 is as 'ancient' as PS3 considering they have the same power but i bet you wouldnt say that about your PS3, am i right?

Your insecurity is starting to show.
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#38 hiphops_savior
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Maybe Nintendo might release a new console by 2012, but I doubt Sony or Microsoft would.
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#39 True-Legend86
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If sony releases a new disc format, it would hurt them the most. Blu Ray still hasnt ousted DVD format.

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Sony is not going to release a new disc format, even I can see that....it would defeat the whole purpose of releasing blu ray 4years ago, sure they can have a greater capacity of it, but there is no new disc format coming from Sony...
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#40 monson21502
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in 2 years the 360 will be 7 years old and ps3 will be 6:shock:

yeah time flys im always ready for next gen in about 5. since i didnt buy a next gen system till 07 when 60 gig ps3s went to 500 ill be happy if no new systems come out till 2 years is up.

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#41 ArchoNils2
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That doesn't make much sense, whoever buys a system several years after release wouldn't get the next gen right at launch, so it doesn't really matter wheter you're the day 1 buyer or the year 5 buyer :S Personally I want the next gen as fast as possible, the hardware on every console shows it's weakness extremly good and I finally want to have a console to support 1080p @ 60FPS in 3D even if it has a lot of details.

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#42 PAL360
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

they need to hurry up the 360 is ancient by console standards and what i spend on a console is a drop in the bucket compared to what i spend on games.

Ragnarok1051

Well, 360 is as 'ancient' as PS3 considering they have the same power but i bet you wouldnt say that about your PS3, am i right?

Your insecurity is starting to show.

It´s not insecurity dude! Most of my friends have PS3. I have been playing PS3 almost as much as 360 this gen and both consoles have games i love. But yeah, the fact ppl still bash 360 graphics when it has been doing exactly the same as PS3 does annoys me a bit.

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#43 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

Well, 360 is as 'ancient' as PS3 considering they have the same power but i bet you wouldnt say that about your PS3, am i right?

PAL360

Your insecurity is starting to show.

It´s not insecurity dude! Most of my friends have PS3. I have been playing PS3 almost as much as 360 this gen and both consoles have games i love. But yeah, the fact ppl still bash 360 graphics when it has been doing exactly the same as PS3 does annoys me a bit.

I would put Riverwolf more in line with 360 fans than PS3 fans...
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#44 PAL360
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] Your insecurity is starting to show. Ragnarok1051

It´s not insecurity dude! Most of my friends have PS3. I have been playing PS3 almost as much as 360 this gen and both consoles have games i love. But yeah, the fact ppl still bash 360 graphics when it has been doing exactly the same as PS3 does annoys me a bit.

I would put Riverwolf more in line with 360 fans than PS3 fans...

Maybe, i dont know him, just read his post. My point still stands, can you explain to me how are 360 tech more ancient than PS3´s? Arent both consoles similar?

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#45 ForceFreeze
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I don't think TC understands what the word 'sleazy' actually means.

Well, I would personally prefer that the next-generation of consoles are unveiled in at least 3 years time, I want developers to focus on gameplay and content, not graphics, the games of today look good enough already.

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#46 Kane04
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but neither console is dying and there has been no talk at all regards new consoles. in fact MS said they have no plans for a new xbox at all

dog_dirt
They "pretty much" said that till the day they cough off the 360 before anyone else, and if i recall right they always said they weren't gonna abandon the original, but as soon as the 360 was out the only games you got for the original were multi plats. On topic... New consoles will come, maybe sooner than people think, and the reason why they are so expensive is because people buy the Wii no matter what, specs/price is the worst deal you can get, but people keep on buying, they not gonna lower the price, MS takes a ride because they have a more powerful system its only fair to have a higher price tag and so does Sony. I just hope they aren't cheap and trow in more RAM this time around. Remember how the 360 was gonna come with 256MB till Epic Games showed a demo version of Gears of War? That game made MS trow another 256MB in the machine, like Mario 65 kinda did with the N64. PC games could run on the PS3/360 much better if only they have more RAM, hardware is always gonna get hold, but having more memory would keep them on going for longer, its not like its THAT expensive.
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#47 HurrGamurr
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That's what you get for buying so late in a generation. But I think 2012 / 2013 is a good time for a new generation.

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#48 Jynxzor
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Announcements of new system will be 2012 at the latest, depending on how this "Move generation" turns out for both parties. If Kinect is a gangbuster I'm sure MS will be more than happy to rest on there laurels and make games that don't even try to push there current system let alone a new system with upped specs to it's limits. Sony is in a more adventageous position if the movement move fails, they didn't dump half a billion into marketing like someone we all know, but if they are a huge hit I can't see Sony chomping at the bit to waste money on producing a new machine just yet. They too will rest on there laurels and allow the casuals to bring them back some of there lost investments in the PS3. Both companies put a big investment into this prolonging the need to actually produce new machines, but it's silly to say they don't both have prototypes waiting in the wings ready to fly out whenever the need arises. Sony got caught with there pants down this gen, I doubt they will let it happen a second time.
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#49 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

It´s not insecurity dude! Most of my friends have PS3. I have been playing PS3 almost as much as 360 this gen and both consoles have games i love. But yeah, the fact ppl still bash 360 graphics when it has been doing exactly the same as PS3 does annoys me a bit.

PAL360

I would put Riverwolf more in line with 360 fans than PS3 fans...

Maybe, i dont know him, just read his post. My point still stands, can you explain to me how are 360 tech more ancient than PS3´s? Arent both consoles similar?

I didn't say that so don't pull it over on me. You're showing insecurity pouncing on every negative comment about the 360 even from someone who is a long 360 fan around here.
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#50 right4dead
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That's what you get for buying so late in a generation. But I think 2012 / 2013 is a good time for a new generation.

HurrGamurr

yea thats why i buy early in the generation. people say its too expensive but atleast i have more years to enjoy them.