WOW, a big game like uncharted has no loadtimes what so ever

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#1 G10mgs4
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the game has no loadtimes at all, how the hell did nd do this wit the blu ray drive in the ps3 being the 2x drive

streaming textures, hdd, ? whats the deal, why havent other devs done this before.

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#2 Meu2k7
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Do you mean during a level or even loading up a level?
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#3 Ibacai
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Do you mean during a level or even loading up a level?Meu2k7
Exactly, there are always load times.
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#4 Liquid-GEAR
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streaming textures.
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#5 WSP87
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Do you mean during a level or even loading up a level?Meu2k7

I'm not sure but i remember something about zero load times. Now that can be taken different ways though.

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#6 blackice1983
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gears did it a year ago. cows lol
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#7 yoshi_64
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gears did it a year ago. cows lolblackice1983
Streaming textures, yes... Load times? ...It had plenty of them.

Anyways... just wondeirng, is this based off the Demo? Cause... most demos I play don't do any load times after the intial starting up load.

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#8 Always-Honest
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did you play the game allready. cool, so NO loadtimes WHAT-SO-EVER in uncharted.. thanx for the heads up.

maybe you need to install the game on the HD

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#9 Ibacai
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[QUOTE="blackice1983"]gears did it a year ago. cows lolyoshi_64

Streaming textures, yes... Load times? ...It had plenty of them.

Anyways... just wondeirng, is this based off the Demo? Cause... most demos I play don't do any load times after the intial starting up load.

No, in one of the interviews with ND a dev said there would be no load times. I would expect that there will be no load times within levels (Easily hid within little cutscenes, devs are smart).
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#10 kevy619
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There were no loading times at all, they seem to be using the hardrive/cutscenes to cover up any loadtimes.
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#11 Warp_2567
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It prob loads during custscenes and streams textures
but still, the draw distance is very good for a game this beautiful.
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#12 kevy619
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did you play the game allready. cool, so NO loadtimes WHAT-SO-EVER in uncharted.. thanx for the heads up.

maybe you need to install the game on the HD

Always-Honest

Its true, except if you die. Im guessing cutscenes mask load times, while the harddrive also helps alot.

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#13 Netherscourge
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No load times = your Blu-Ray drive is gonna burn out with all the activity it's going to have to do.

Sometimes it's better to let non-mechanical hardware (like CPUs and RAM) handle data then constantly streaming it off a disc on the fly...

Time will tell...

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#14 kevy619
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It prob loads during custscenes and streams textures
but still, the draw distance is very good for a game this beautiful.Warp_2567

I agree, the most impressive ps3 game yet.

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#15 kevy619
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No load times = your Blu-Ray drive is gonna burn out with all the activity it's going to have to do.

Sometimes it's better to let non-mechanical hardware (like CPUs and RAM) handle data then constantly streaming it off a disc on the fly...

Time will tell...

Netherscourge

Thats what the HDD is for.

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#16 Always-Honest
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[QUOTE="Always-Honest"]

did you play the game allready. cool, so NO loadtimes WHAT-SO-EVER in uncharted.. thanx for the heads up.

maybe you need to install the game on the HD

kevy619

Its true, except if you die. Im guessing cutscenes mask load times, while the harddrive also helps alot.

yeah, they do fantastic things with cutscenes these days. In a IGN podcast they said Mass effect wouldn't have loadtimes either.

I guess there will be some scutscenes in elevators then :-P

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#17 arcmanis
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Didn't you download the demo to your harddrive? Most of the loading times for the PS3 are because of the console having to read data off the game disc.
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#18 kevy619
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[QUOTE="kevy619"][QUOTE="Always-Honest"]

did you play the game allready. cool, so NO loadtimes WHAT-SO-EVER in uncharted.. thanx for the heads up.

maybe you need to install the game on the HD

Always-Honest

Its true, except if you die. Im guessing cutscenes mask load times, while the harddrive also helps alot.

yeah, they do fantastic things with cutscenes these days. In a IGN podcast they said Mass effect wouldn't have loadtimes either.

I guess there will be some scutscenes in elevators then :-P

Sweet, Mass Effect was already my most hyped game.

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#19 yoshi_64
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[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]

[QUOTE="blackice1983"]gears did it a year ago. cows lolIbacai

Streaming textures, yes... Load times? ...It had plenty of them.

Anyways... just wondeirng, is this based off the Demo? Cause... most demos I play don't do any load times after the intial starting up load.

No, in one of the interviews with ND a dev said there would be no load times. I would expect that there will be no load times within levels (Easily hid within little cutscenes, devs are smart).

That's cool. Likely it will do what Metroid Prime has done and other games then.. hide them very well that you won't notice them. It still has to load up some part of the game, and likely this is the case I'm sure... plus theyprobably believe you'll install some of the game onto the HDD I guess. Regardless, I really want to play this game. :(
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#20 kevy619
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Didn't you download the demo to your harddrive? Most of the loading times for the PS3 are because of the console having to read data off the game disc.arcmanis

The ps3 uses the hdd quite a bit though. Most games even use an install process now, for example Oblivion uses 4 gigs to install.

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#21 Bazfrag
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Wow

SWIV on the Commodore 64 did that too.

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#22 The_Crucible
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Yes, all games have load times. All load up a map or level, at the least.

But what I think the TC is trying to say, or should be if not, is that although there are many claims of slow loads because of blu-ray, that has not been the case. Every game I've played has been fantastic on load times with the PS3. You all remember Oblivion, you could go anywhere with just a slight pause on the PS3. On the 360 it was far worse.

I'm not saying 360 has bad load times. All I'm saying is that PS3 most certainly doesn't have bad ones.

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#23 3picuri3
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the textures are pretty low res, and many models are low detail (terrain, etc) so i'm sure that helps a load.
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"I can't wait for the 360 version! Better."
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#25 Douja555
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What makes Uncharted so "big"
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It's easier to hide them in a single player only game. But Gears pretty much did the same thing, only it couldn't predict the future, it had multiplayer and singleplayer, loading one when you were going to play the other is pointless.
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#27 Meu2k7
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What makes Uncharted so "big"Douja555

Absolutely nothing, interesting game yes, but thats us far as it goes.

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#28 nintendo-4life
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can someone please tell me what's streaming textures?
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#29 The_Crucible
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[QUOTE="Douja555"]What makes Uncharted so "big"Meu2k7

Absolutely nothing, interesting game yes, but thats us far as it goes.

Come on, dude. The sotry seems to be great. the humor in the characters is great. The graphics, great. The animations, great. The smoothness, great. The use of the six-axis, great. What else you want?

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#30 osan0
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can someone please tell me what's streaming textures?nintendo-4life

basically the idea is that the dev manages to get the data from the disc into the system and on the screen without using a loading screen and without the player noticing. its a bit like streaming music off dinternets say. theres lots of tricks that devs use to hide loading screens like loading all the necessary data into the system while theres a FMV or cinematic running. once its finished, the game can then immediately bring the new data in for use. no loading screen needed.

and oblivion has a 4GB install? is that optional or required? if thats needed then...wow. no wonder the game performs better on PS3, the entire thing is on the HDD.

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...... and oblivion has a 4GB install? is that optional or required? if thats needed then...wow. no wonder the game performs better on PS3, the entire thing is on the HDD.

osan0

Yeah, good thing ALL PS3's have HDD's. Sowwy Thwee-Swixty.

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#32 Always-Honest
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Yes, all games have load times. All load up a map or level, at the least.

But what I think the TC is trying to say, or should be if not, is that although there are many claims of slow loads because of blu-ray, that has not been the case. Every game I've played has been fantastic on load times with the PS3. You all remember Oblivion, you could go anywhere with just a slight pause on the PS3. On the 360 it was far worse.

I'm not saying 360 has bad load times. All I'm saying is that PS3 most certainly doesn't have bad ones.

The_Crucible

because of the hard disk.. blu ray is slow.

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#33 The_Crucible
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because of the hard disk.. blu ray is slow.

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(Read my comment above)

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#34 Sgt_Crow
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Wait, you made ANOTHER thread about Uncharted? :S
Are you trying to proof something to someone?

Anyway,no loading times isn't much new....
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10GB Install Confirmed.
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#36 3picuri3
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10GB Install Confirmed. BitterExtract

holy ****.

that's one thing i hated about the PS3, games installing... have enough time spent juggling space on my PC, shouldn't have to do that with a console IMO, but i guess it's what you HAVE to do with the PS3 given the architecture and BR read times.

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#37 shoeman12
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no. the ps3's blu ray drive is 2x, you can't possibly have no load times.
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#38 osan0
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[QUOTE="osan0"]

...... and oblivion has a 4GB install? is that optional or required? if thats needed then...wow. no wonder the game performs better on PS3, the entire thing is on the HDD.

The_Crucible

Yeah, good thing ALL PS3's have HDD's. Sowwy Thwee-Swixty.

it is certainly nice to have it there (why MS why...why didnt u have a HDD as standard u dolts)....but it doesent really put any confidence in the blu-ray drive for games does it? i thought bethesda improved loading performance by putting multiple copies of the game on one disc as well as using the HDD for cachine like on 360 and PC. didnt know it needed a 4GB install.

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[QUOTE="BitterExtract"]10GB Install Confirmed. 3picuri3

holy ****.

that's one thing i hated about the PS3, games installing... have enough time spent juggling space on my PC, shouldn't have to do that with a console IMO, but i guess it's what you HAVE to do with the PS3 given the architecture and BR read times.

Ummm... you can always put in a larger HDD.