WOW! THE power of the cell

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#1 PabbssPS3
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Client statistics by OS

OS Type Current TFLOPS* Active CPUs Total CPUs
Windows 151 158987 1624628
Mac OS X/PowerPC 7 8706 95328
Mac OS X/Intel 7 2700 7192
Linux 35 24949 215658
GPU 41 691 2181
PLAYSTATION®3 304 12394 13329
Total 545 208427 1958316

 

The PS3 with only 12,394 people have output 304 Terraflops in only 2 days. That exceeds all other clients COMBINED including 160,000 PC's.

The CELL has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt it's potential. If all 2 million people with a PS3 ran this software we would be done with the folding project in one DAY instead of YEARS.

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#2 pbkick1
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Great!!! but  though this thing played games...Guess not:cry:
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#3 nickmag
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Everyone knows it's stupidly powerful. There was even talk of hooking a bunch up to make a super computer :?
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#4 PeterTimpa
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Everyone knows it's stupidly powerful. There was even talk of hooking a bunch up to make a super computer :?nickmag
But The Playstation 3 is already a Super Computer, remeber its not a Game Machine its a Super Computer speech.
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#5 PeterTimpa
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All thought that is really cool that is that powerfull hopefully soon developers will use the cell's power to its full potential
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#6 Zerostatic0
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That's actually pretty impressive. I took a class on parallel programming, and we even discussed IBM's cell processor. It really is a magnificent processor. The world tried to go the mutli-processor route in the early 90's but it wasn't ready, it looks like the time has finally come with Intel and AMD both going that route, and even Video-game systems are starting to have these type of architectures. I've said it before and I'll say it again, right now the 360 and PS3 look about on par, perhaps the 360 having the edge, but by the end of this generation the PS3 will be the clear winner on visuals.
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Client statistics by OS

OS Type Current TFLOPS* Active CPUs Total CPUs
Windows 151 158987 1624628
Mac OS X/PowerPC 7 8706 95328
Mac OS X/Intel 7 2700 7192
Linux 35 24949 215658
GPU 41 691 2181
PLAYSTATION®3 304 12394 13329
Total 545 208427 1958316

The PS3 with only 12,394 people have output 304 Terraflops in only 2 days. That exceeds all other clients COMBINED including 160,000 PC's.

The CELL has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt it's potential. If all 2 million people with a PS3 ran this software we would be done with the folding project in one DAY instead of YEARS.

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That's fantastic! Let me know when it does good games though.
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#8 audioaxes
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a processor thats good at folding does not mean its best at handling video games
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#9 joeychew
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devs must really make full use of the cell....
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#10 zaibutzu
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So in few years games on ps3 can be ported to 360 but on a much crappier graphics. And also blue ray is gonna provide more space. Sony thinks ahead. There are so many lemmings on this forum who realise this in their subconcious mind, and constantly come here to feel secure about their purchase.
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#11 PabbssPS3
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a processor thats good at folding does not mean its best at handling video gamesaudioaxes

 

o it plays games to man! MOTORS STORM RESITANCE, ETC,  PS3 ITS A MATURE MACHINE  XBOX360 IN THE OTHER HAND IS A TEENAGERS MACHINE

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Client statistics by OS

OS Type Current TFLOPS* Active CPUs Total CPUs
Windows 151 158987 1624628
Mac OS X/PowerPC 7 8706 95328
Mac OS X/Intel 7 2700 7192
Linux 35 24949 215658
GPU 41 691 2181
PLAYSTATION®3 304 12394 13329
Total 545 208427 1958316

 

The PS3 with only 12,394 people have output 304 Terraflops in only 2 days. That exceeds all other clients COMBINED including 160,000 PC's.

The CELL has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt it's potential. If all 2 million people with a PS3 ran this software we would be done with the folding project in one DAY instead of YEARS.

PabbssPS3
but Sony said a single PS3 is capable of 2 teraflops
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[QUOTE="PabbssPS3"]

Client statistics by OS

OS Type Current TFLOPS* Active CPUs Total CPUs
Windows 151 158987 1624628
Mac OS X/PowerPC 7 8706 95328
Mac OS X/Intel 7 2700 7192
Linux 35 24949 215658
GPU 41 691 2181
PLAYSTATION®3 304 12394 13329
Total 545 208427 1958316

 

The PS3 with only 12,394 people have output 304 Terraflops in only 2 days. That exceeds all other clients COMBINED including 160,000 PC's.

The CELL has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt it's potential. If all 2 million people with a PS3 ran this software we would be done with the folding project in one DAY instead of YEARS.

CwlHeddwyn

but Sony said a single PS3 is capable of 2 teraflops

 

LYNK?

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what a shame it sucks for gaming
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[QUOTE="audioaxes"]a processor thats good at folding does not mean its best at handling video gamesPabbssPS3

 

o it plays games to man! MOTORS STORM RESITANCE, ETC,  PS3 ITS A MATURE MACHINE  XBOX360 IN THE OTHER HAND IS A TEENAGERS MACHINE

only kids say stuff like this :lol:
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[QUOTE="PabbssPS3"]

[QUOTE="audioaxes"]a processor thats good at folding does not mean its best at handling video gamesOntain

 

o it plays games to man! MOTORS STORM RESITANCE, ETC,  PS3 ITS A MATURE MACHINE  XBOX360 IN THE OTHER HAND IS A TEENAGERS MACHINE

only kids say stuff like this :lol:

 

YEAP! AND ONLY KIDS LIVE IN GAMESPOT 24/7 INSULTIN SONY AND THE PS3,

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All thought that is really cool that is that powerfull hopefully soon developers will use the cell's power to its full potentialPeterTimpa

Its a huge learning curve compared to past consoles, so its going to take a fair amount of time to really work it properly, I am optimistic that eventually games will look great and run well.

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#18 Zerostatic0
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You, know what the makes me think. That Sony really has put together some sh*tty development software. If this project is able to extract so much raw power out of the cell, why don't they let Programmers write their code for a single processor and have the compiler do whatever the Folding project is doing to optimize the machine-code for multiple processing cores. It's pretty friggin' hard to manually write algorithms that take advantage of parallel processors. I bet Sony's development software is doing just that which is why there are so many complaints from developers about cost, time, and difficulty associated with PS3 development. Sure, in the hands of a skilled programmer, doing everything manually will ensure better performance but in today's mutli-platform world, all that is going to happen is subpar 3rd party games.
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#19 Ontain
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[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="PabbssPS3"]

[QUOTE="audioaxes"]a processor thats good at folding does not mean its best at handling video gamesPabbssPS3

 

o it plays games to man! MOTORS STORM RESITANCE, ETC,  PS3 ITS A MATURE MACHINE  XBOX360 IN THE OTHER HAND IS A TEENAGERS MACHINE

only kids say stuff like this :lol:

 

YEAP! AND ONLY KIDS LIVE IN GAMESPOT 24/7 INSULTIN SONY AND THE PS3,

nope there are plenty of ppl that will do that.
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what a shame it sucks for gamingMedic_B
what at shame you suck at gameing
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[QUOTE="Medic_B"]what a shame it sucks for gamingalex1889
what at shame you suck at gameing

What a shame your grammar sucks

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That's actually pretty impressive. I took a class on parallel programming, and we even discussed IBM's cell processor. It really is a magnificent processor. The world tried to go the mutli-processor route in the early 90's but it wasn't ready, it looks like the time has finally come with Intel and AMD both going that route, and even Video-game systems are starting to have these type of architectures. I've said it before and I'll say it again, right now the 360 and PS3 look about on par, perhaps the 360 having the edge, but by the end of this generation the PS3 will be the clear winner on visuals. Zerostatic0
The cell is not a GPU and thus PS3 uses Nvidia. The cell is not going to make the PS3 a clear winner in visuals.
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The Cell is Powerful but, devs still don't really know how to use it to its full :P
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I knew that as soon as somthing good was said about the cell there'd be at least 5 or 6 lems who still had to say "TO BAD ITS TEH SUXORZ FOR GAMEZ"

 

You cant spin this, the cell is obviously a good processor and power=power, as soon as they figure out how to use it well for games, it will work well for games, not to mention that this data is for a good cause, but because of your blind fanboyisim you have to bash it.

Worried your machine that costs 200 dollars less might be slightly less powerful?... because.. you know.. that wouldent make sense or anything.

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[QUOTE="Zerostatic0"]That's actually pretty impressive. I took a class on parallel programming, and we even discussed IBM's cell processor. It really is a magnificent processor. The world tried to go the mutli-processor route in the early 90's but it wasn't ready, it looks like the time has finally come with Intel and AMD both going that route, and even Video-game systems are starting to have these type of architectures. I've said it before and I'll say it again, right now the 360 and PS3 look about on par, perhaps the 360 having the edge, but by the end of this generation the PS3 will be the clear winner on visuals. Danthegamingman
The cell is not a GPU and thus PS3 uses Nvidia. The cell is not going to make the PS3 a clear winner in visuals.

Unlike PCs, CPU's in home consoles often-times play a significant role in visuals. In fact, the PS2 had a crappy GPU, but it still had some amazing looking games thanks to it's PowerPC-based CPU. Sony I think has taken the same approach with the PS3 and though the RSX is a pretty competitive GPU, the Cell over time will play a larger and larger role in graphics processing imo. I have a degree in Computer Science & Engineering, I've designed a RISC-based processor in one of my classes, I've made my own indie games, I have programming experience (including multi-core programming) and it is my opinion that over time the PS3 will distinguish itself from the 360 graphically.
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PS3 rules!When will you Americans admit it?
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#27 CLuget
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I wouldn't use this software to claim some sort of performance advantage the PS3 has over the XBox 360. Folding@home also has an ATI x1900 GPU enhanced version of the software which uses that GPU's streaming processors to increase speed 20-30 fold, which is comparable to the speed increase in the Cell (another streaming processor) version of the software. And as most know, the 360 uses an ATI R600 class GPU, which is a generation ahead of the X1900 GPU's.

 http://folding.stanford.edu/FAQ-ATI.html

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I wouldn't use this software to claim some sort of performance advantage the PS3 has over the XBox 360. Folding@home also has an ATI x1900 GPU enhanced version of the software which uses that GPU's streaming processors to increase speed 20-30 fold, which is comparable to the speed increase in the Cell (another streaming processor) version of the software. And as most know, the 360 uses an ATI R600 class GPU, which is a generation ahead of the X1900 GPU's.

http://folding.stanford.edu/FAQ-ATI.html

CLuget

Why are you comparing GPUs? The Cell is a CPU.  GPUs today are monsterific and dwarf CPUs in sheer math power.

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#29 Squall_Griver
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Wow lemmings cant realize anything but games
we have folidng @ home but we also have games but lemmings try to tell them selves that its one or the other

for shame
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#30 Frunku
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Whatever they think, it's pretty damn impressive that 12 000 PS3's have outputted more data in two days than 150 000 PC's have in months.
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#31 CLuget
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[QUOTE="CLuget"]

I wouldn't use this software to claim some sort of performance advantage the PS3 has over the XBox 360. Folding@home also has an ATI x1900 GPU enhanced version of the software which uses that GPU's streaming processors to increase speed 20-30 fold, which is comparable to the speed increase in the Cell (another streaming processor) version of the software. And as most know, the 360 uses an ATI R600 class GPU, which is a generation ahead of the X1900 GPU's.

http://folding.stanford.edu/FAQ-ATI.html

Frunku

Why are you comparing GPUs? The Cell is a CPU.  GPUs today are monsterific and dwarf CPUs in sheer math power.

Because graphics performance in games is not dependent on CPU alone, and is dependent more on GPU, which you've basically just admitted to yourself in the above statement. In any case, while the Cell may have the better CPU, the 360 has the better GPU. From the folding @home GPU faq, here's what they have to say about the ATI and Nvidia GPU's "What about video cards with other (non-ATI) chipsets? The R580 (in the X1900XT, etc.) performs particularly well for molecular dynamics, due to its 48 pixel shaders. Currently, other cards (such as those from nVidia and other ATI cards) do not perform well enough for our calculations as they have fewer pixel shaders. Also, nVidia cards in general have some technical limitations beyond the number of pixel shaders which makes them perform poorly in our calculations. "
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#32 Frunku
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[QUOTE="Frunku"][QUOTE="CLuget"]

I wouldn't use this software to claim some sort of performance advantage the PS3 has over the XBox 360. Folding@home also has an ATI x1900 GPU enhanced version of the software which uses that GPU's streaming processors to increase speed 20-30 fold, which is comparable to the speed increase in the Cell (another streaming processor) version of the software. And as most know, the 360 uses an ATI R600 class GPU, which is a generation ahead of the X1900 GPU's.

http://folding.stanford.edu/FAQ-ATI.html

CLuget

Why are you comparing GPUs? The Cell is a CPU. GPUs today are monsterific and dwarf CPUs in sheer math power.

Because graphics performance in games is not dependent on CPU alone, and is dependent more on GPU, which you've basically just admitted to yourself in the above statement.

Yes, graphics do not come from the CPU... and? Are graphics the only measure of a processor's power? I'd think it would have more to do with physics and hard math. I don't know if the RSX is any good at running this program, but I do know that 150 000 pcs working for year just got beaten by 13 000 PS3's in two days.

The PS3's Cell is more powerful. This is hard fact. That won't translate into better graphics but guess what, I don't care.

 

Also, excuse me but the Xenos does not equal every new GPU that comes out. This has been going on for too long. First the lemmings said the Xenos equaled an x800 when that came out, then an x1800, then an x1900 when in came out, and now it's supposed  to equal a r600. Xenos is a r500 modified with some direct-x 10 features.

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#33 CLuget
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Also, excuse me but the Xenos does not equal every new GPU that comes out. This has been going on for too long. First the lemmings said the Xenos equaled an x800 when that came out, then an x1800, then an x1900 when in came out, and now it's supposed  to equal a r600. Xenos is a r500 modified with some direct-x 10 features.Frunku

While Xenos is not fully an R600 GPU, it's much closer to the R600 than to any of the other class of ATI GPU's currently out in the market due to the inclusion of the 48 unified pixel shader pipes. Unified shaders are, IMO, the fundamental differentiator between current gen cards and next gen cards. That and of course DX10 support, which Xenos has some support for (e.g. the support for SM 4.0). Thus the reason why many, including myself, compare the Xenos with the R600.

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[QUOTE="CwlHeddwyn"][QUOTE="PabbssPS3"]

Client statistics by OS

OS Type Current TFLOPS* Active CPUs Total CPUs
Windows 151 158987 1624628
Mac OS X/PowerPC 7 8706 95328
Mac OS X/Intel 7 2700 7192
Linux 35 24949 215658
GPU 41 691 2181
PLAYSTATION®3 304 12394 13329
Total 545 208427 1958316

The PS3 with only 12,394 people have output 304 Terraflops in only 2 days. That exceeds all other clients COMBINED including 160,000 PC's.

The CELL has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt it's potential. If all 2 million people with a PS3 ran this software we would be done with the folding project in one DAY instead of YEARS.

PabbssPS3

but Sony said a single PS3 is capable of 2 teraflops

LYNK?

E3 2005 ~ Sony Conference
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That's actually pretty impressive. I took a class on parallel programming, and we even discussed IBM's cell processor. It really is a magnificent processor. The world tried to go the mutli-processor route in the early 90's but it wasn't ready, it looks like the time has finally come with Intel and AMD both going that route, and even Video-game systems are starting to have these type of architectures. I've said it before and I'll say it again, right now the 360 and PS3 look about on par, perhaps the 360 having the edge, but by the end of this generation the PS3 will be the clear winner on visuals. Zerostatic0
impressive. not something im used to reading here in SW
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Worried your machine that costs 200 dollars less might be slightly less powerful?... because.. you know.. that wouldent make sense or anything.cheatymcshifty

Worried that you've spent $200 more on a machine that's not more powerful when it comes to gaming? You did buy the PS3 for gaming right?

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#37 das_beck
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apples and oranges / games and folding
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[QUOTE="PabbssPS3"]

Client statistics by OS

OS Type Current TFLOPS* Active CPUs Total CPUs
Windows 151 158987 1624628
Mac OS X/PowerPC 7 8706 95328
Mac OS X/Intel 7 2700 7192
Linux 35 24949 215658
GPU 41 691 2181
PLAYSTATION®3 304 12394 13329
Total 545 208427 1958316

The PS3 with only 12,394 people have output 304 Terraflops in only 2 days. That exceeds all other clients COMBINED including 160,000 PC's.

The CELL has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt it's potential. If all 2 million people with a PS3 ran this software we would be done with the folding project in one DAY instead of YEARS.

UnnDunn
That's fantastic! Let me know when it does good games though.

If you only think that AAA games are the only 'good games' then you obviously don't game much do you? Hell I'm having loads of fun with Battlestations: Midway, and it only scored a 7.9!
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Client statistics by OS

OS Type Current TFLOPS* Active CPUs Total CPUs
Windows 151 158987 1624628
Mac OS X/PowerPC 7 8706 95328
Mac OS X/Intel 7 2700 7192
Linux 35 24949 215658
GPU 41 691 2181
PLAYSTATION®3 304 12394 13329
Total 545 208427 1958316

 

The PS3 with only 12,394 people have output 304 Terraflops in only 2 days. That exceeds all other clients COMBINED including 160,000 PC's.

The CELL has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt it's potential. If all 2 million people with a PS3 ran this software we would be done with the folding project in one DAY instead of YEARS.

PabbssPS3

I think your numbers for the PS3 are a couple of flops off: You forgot to add in Resistence and Motorstorm.

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#40 blacktorn
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But it will only be used in ps3's and server/t.v.s.

Windows/OSX needs general purpose cpu's not custom made spu's,the OS would need an overhaul to make use of them,and it's never going to happen.

P.S.The cell has yet to prove the ps3 can do more than the 360 yet,so don't WOW at it just yet... 

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We know the Cell is powerful... where are the games?
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what a shame it sucks for gamingMedic_B


Thats your opinion, mine is the 360 only has 1 good game, wich is FIFA 07
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#43 Number_1_Gamer
Member since 2007 • 1786 Posts
Nobody cares about teh Cell. People just want teh games. And Sony phails.